[02:26] <ChinnoDog> @crickets
[02:26] <PennBot> http://www.instantcrickets.com
[03:23] <andrew> ChinnoDog: Sorry, I was busy rock climbing
[03:29] <ChinnoDog> That sounds fun
[03:29] <ChinnoDog> I have no rocks to climb. :-(
[03:46] <andrew> ChinnoDog: Come to PRG in Oaks next time we climb (or anytime, just let me know and I'll be there)
[12:21] <MutantTurkey> first day of classes :o
[12:38] <SamuraiAlba> Mornin!
[12:38] <SamuraiAlba> What major?
[12:40] <MutantTurkey> digital production
[12:42] <SamuraiAlba> Ahhh... Save your ducats
[12:43] <SamuraiAlba> get a Wacom Cintiq 21UX
[12:43] <SamuraiAlba> :)
[12:43] <andrew> ducats?
[12:43] <SamuraiAlba> You can go to... autodesk and check their student software.  I think every package is a free download and 3 year license for .edu email addy students
[12:44] <SamuraiAlba> http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=download_center
[12:44] <PennBot> Title: Download Center (at students.autodesk.com)
[12:45] <SamuraiAlba> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/dd759402
[12:45] <PennBot> Title: Student Resources (at msdn.microsoft.com)
[12:45] <SamuraiAlba> http://lifehacker.com/5727786/software-discounts-you-can-get-with-an-edu-email-address
[12:45] <PennBot> Title: Software Discounts You Can Get With An .EDU Email Address (at lifehacker.com)
[12:45] <SamuraiAlba> I did my... um... research
[12:46] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:48] <SamuraiAlba> Mornin!
[14:19] <SamuraiAlba> Should I play some runescape, today?
[14:41] <ChinnoDog> andrew: I decided that I wasn't into Alarm Clock Plus and installed Alarm Click Xtreme. It doesn't have a nice display for showing the time at night but I can still use the included clock app for that.
[14:41] <JonathanD> I use alarm clock ultra extreme super deluxe.
[14:42] <JonathanD> It shoots me in the head when it's time to wake up.
[14:45] <andrew> JonathanD: Does this alarm's name start with a 'J'?
[14:45] <JonathanD> no.
[14:45] <JonathanD> they sleep later than I do.
[14:45] <JonathanD> I don't use an alarm clock. I just wake up "naturally"
[14:47] <andrew> Is that what they are calling it now?
[14:47] <andrew> Anyways...
[14:47] <andrew> How was everyone's drive this morning?
[14:48] <JonathanD> yes.
[14:48] <JonathanD> drive was great
[14:49] <andrew> Good to hear, same here
[14:49] <andrew> better than my drive home from Oaks last nigth
[14:49] <JonathanD> light traffic.
[14:49] <JonathanD> no ice.
[14:49] <andrew> JonathanD: I'm telling you, geeknic at PRG
[14:49] <JonathanD> What is a PRG?
[14:50] <andrew> http://www.philarockgym.com/
[14:50] <PennBot> Title: Philadelphia Rock Gyms (at www.philarockgym.com)
[14:50] <JonathanD> would they allow such a thing.
[14:50] <JonathanD> ?
[14:51] <JonathanD> oh, they do parties.
[14:51] <JonathanD> well, might be fun :P
[14:51] <JonathanD> assuming I don't break my hip
[14:52] <andrew> Why would you break your hip? History?
[14:52] <JonathanD> I have a bad hip :P
[14:52] <andrew> Ah
[14:53] <JonathanD> I probably wouldn't. I have arthritis, and I've never actually determined why it came on so early, so I'm always slightly wary.
[14:53] <JonathanD> I should see a doctor about it some day.
[14:54] <andrew> I saw some guy climbing the other week who had to be in his 70s
[14:54] <JonathanD> andrew: I'm not opposed ot it :P
[14:54] <JonathanD> I've climbed at geeknics before, you know.
[14:55] <andrew> that rock doesn't count
[14:55] <JonathanD> are we still doing that AT thing?
[14:56] <andrew> Are able people interested?
[14:56] <JonathanD> I'll ask long island
[14:58] <JonathanD> andrew: do you have a start and stop point chosen?
[14:59] <andrew> No idea yet, hadn't thought much until about 4 minutes ago
[14:59] <JonathanD> Some interest from LI
[14:59] <JonathanD> I do believe the AT touched on our park last year.
[15:04] <JonathanD> andrew: did you find last year to offer better hiking options than jenny?
[15:32] <andrew> JonathanD: Yes, we did a mile or two of it last year
[18:08] <mikedep333> who was it here that needed my spare 12V 1A adapter for their netgear?
[18:08] <mikedep333> I'm in King of Prussia now
[18:09] <JonathanD> It wasn't me, although I need(ed) one too.
[18:10] <mikedep333> oh, it was Andrew
[18:10] <mikedep333> * andrew
[18:10] <mikedep333> well, if he can't pick it up, you can have it
[18:11] <mikedep333> it's a linksys ac adapter, but it should work fine
[18:11] <mikedep333> in a netgear
[18:11] <JonathanD> I found 3 yesterday.
[18:11] <JonathanD> :)
[18:11] <mikedep333> lol
[18:11] <mikedep333> where at?
[18:11] <JonathanD> on the other hand, if he can't pick it up, I could eventually give it to him on your behalf.
[18:11] <mikedep333> JonathanD, great
[18:12] <JonathanD> my place is in bridgeport, not far from KOP.
[18:12] <mikedep333> I haven't been going to any PLUG meetings because I've been so busy with moving and whatnot
[18:12] <mikedep333> so there was a dell laptop in my basement
[18:12] <mikedep333> I thought it was my brother's old 14"  latitude C600 series or something
[18:12] <mikedep333> which was largely functional
[18:12] <JonathanD> I found a collection of power cables at work. They were supposed to be tossed.
[18:12] <mikedep333> I went to look at it
[18:12] <JonathanD> C600s are good ol stuff.
[18:13] <JonathanD> I have parts from one I just dismantled if you need anything.
[18:13] <mikedep333> JonathanD, working CD/DVD drive?
[18:13] <JonathanD> Yes.
[18:13] <JonathanD> the pop-out one that goes in the front, aye?
[18:13] <mikedep333> it has a CD-RW/DVD combo, but it gets read errors every 50MB or so
[18:13] <mikedep333> I think so
[18:13] <JonathanD> I do have one.
[18:13] <mikedep333> I think his is one of the later C600 series
[18:13] <mikedep333> it has a pentium 4-m 1.6 ghz
[18:13] <JonathanD> The latch that holds it into the case might be a little flakey.
[18:13] <JonathanD> yeah, this is older.
[18:14] <JonathanD> PIII 700mhz, I think.
[18:14] <mikedep333> guess how I managed to install ubuntu (some old version like 7.04 or whatever) on this computer using the CD/DVD drive?
[18:14] <JonathanD> I took ram and other stuff from it to make an inspiron 8000 work.
[18:14] <mikedep333> yeah
[18:14] <JonathanD> eject it frequently?
[18:14] <mikedep333> I used the mini cd!
[18:15] <mikedep333> I love it
[18:15] <JonathanD> oh! hah
[18:15] <mikedep333> right now it is only 20MB
[18:15] <mikedep333> back then it was only 10MB or so
[18:15] <JonathanD> awesome.
[18:15] <mikedep333> I love network installs
[18:15] <JonathanD> I had some video issues with the 8000
[18:15] <mikedep333> no old packages you have to immediately upgrade after you install the OS itself
[18:15] <mikedep333> but anyway
[18:15] <JonathanD> I've not yet completely resolved them.
[18:15] <mikedep333> I thought this was my brother's latitude
[18:15] <mikedep333> it was actually an inspiron 2300
[18:15] <JonathanD> ONce I do I'm giving it to my son.
[18:16] <JonathanD> good ol dells.
[18:16] <mikedep333> a 15" budget model with 128MB of RAM & a pentium 3 (mobile?) 1.13 ghz
[18:16] <mikedep333> and xp home
[18:16] <JonathanD> oh dear :P
[18:16] <mikedep333> I had an old featherlinux cd in it
[18:16] <mikedep333> I think it was one of the people from my neighborhood who brought their computer to me to repair it
[18:16] <mikedep333> without explaining too well what was the problem
[18:16] <JonathanD> I found a fairly old debian disk in the C600
[18:17] <mikedep333> and I had misdiagnosed it or something. I think featherlinux failed to boot, so I thought the hardware was defective.
[18:17] <mikedep333> but it did boot into xp home, and took like an hour to stop swapping upon startup
[18:17] <mikedep333> because it had 128MB of RAM
[18:17] <JonathanD> yeah. Pitiful :P
[18:17] <JonathanD> I put 512MB and Ubuntu 10.04 in this one.
[18:17] <mikedep333> at least it has ethernet
[18:17] <mikedep333> and I think it has wi-fi
[18:17] <JonathanD> mine doesn't :(
[18:18] <JonathanD> The mini-pci is missing.
[18:18] <mikedep333> yeah
[18:18] <mikedep333> oh
[18:18] <JonathanD> the ports exist, but they lead to no where.
[18:18] <mikedep333> I have an old mini-pci wi-fi card
[18:18] <JonathanD> and no wifi. I put a PCMCIA in
[18:18] <mikedep333> JonathanD, wait, you mean there are no antennas going to the mini-pci?
[18:18] <JonathanD> mikedep333: no, it didn't have built in wifi in the first place
[18:18] <mikedep333> JonathanD, ok
[18:18] <JonathanD> the built in ethernet/modem were attached to a mini-pci
[18:19] <mikedep333> gotcha
[18:19] <JonathanD> the leads from the ethernet/modem ports are in the mini-pci bay
[18:19] <mikedep333> I will set it up as a guest computer at my dad's house
[18:19] <JonathanD> but no card
[18:19] <mikedep333> I think I have 2 128MB sticks of pc100
[18:19] <mikedep333> although it may have pc133 in it now
[18:19] <JonathanD> I have a pile of something here.
[18:19] <mikedep333> I have another stick without its specs on it that may be better
[18:19] <JonathanD> probably 64s though
[18:19] <mikedep333> yeah
[18:20] <mikedep333> I'll look up the #s on the labels, or on the chips
[18:20] <JonathanD> yup, these are 64s
[18:20] <JonathanD> I had 2 256s that went into the inspiron, best i had on hand.
[18:20] <mikedep333> hopefully this laptop has 2 dimm slots
[18:20] <mikedep333> let me google inspiron 2300
[18:21] <mikedep333> hmm
[18:21] <mikedep333> I think I remember the model # wrong
[18:21] <mikedep333> ahh, yes
[18:21] <mikedep333> 2600
[18:21] <JonathanD> an atari!
[18:21] <mikedep333> lol
[18:22] <mikedep333> dell made atari!
[18:22] <mikedep333> I had an atari I used to play
[18:22] <mikedep333> it belonged to my uncle I think
[18:22] <mikedep333> I was using it at the same time I played my NES
[18:22] <mikedep333> I think it was a 2600
[18:22] <JonathanD> Theres one at impact thrift.
[18:22] <JonathanD> If you want it :p
[18:23] <JonathanD> and an NES too, actually.
[18:23] <mikedep333> yeah, it uses pc 133
[18:23] <mikedep333> never been to impact thrift
[18:23] <JonathanD> I was there looking for power cords.
[18:23] <JonathanD> :)
[18:23] <mikedep333> never been to impact thrift?
[18:24] <mikedep333> JonathanD, standard PC power cords?
[18:24] <mikedep333> the 3 prongs
[18:24] <mikedep333> I don't know their technical name
[18:24] <mikedep333> I have a lot of them
[18:24] <JonathanD> mikedep333: no. the 12V router kind
[18:24] <mikedep333> right
[18:24] <mikedep333> I always call them AC adapters
[18:24] <JonathanD> I have hundreds of standard PC cords.
[18:24] <mikedep333> or power warts
[18:24] <mikedep333> lol
[18:24] <mikedep333> because the cable portion of one of those is like $.15
[18:25] <mikedep333> but the actual ac adapter/wart portion is like $3
[18:25] <JonathanD> it's a C13, btw.
[18:25] <JonathanD> teh PC cord.
[18:25] <mikedep333> cool
[18:25] <mikedep333> I met one old PC
[18:25] <JonathanD> or very, very rarely a C14, on some oddball servers.
[18:25] <mikedep333> it had like an inverted C13 on one end
[18:25] <JonathanD> oh yes.
[18:25] <JonathanD> for the monitor
[18:25] <mikedep333> the power supply on the desktop passed power onto the monitor
[18:25] <mikedep333> lol, yeah!
[18:25] <JonathanD> That used to be quite common.
[18:25] <mikedep333> reminds me of that one ancient computer
[18:26] <mikedep333> that had the PSU in the printer
[18:26] <mikedep333> so if the printer broke or got lost, you couldn't use the computer!
[18:26] <JonathanD> clearly they should have made everything powered by teh keyboard, instead.
[18:27] <mikedep333> lol
[18:27] <mikedep333> what's it called
[18:27] <mikedep333> amiga!
[18:27] <mikedep333> oh, wait
[18:27] <mikedep333> not amiga
[18:29] <mikedep333> sigh, I hate seeing everything conform to the x86 PC standard
[18:29] <mikedep333> that's why I love ARM computing
[18:30] <JonathanD> I should get some work done.
[18:31] <mikedep333> I just opened the inspiron 2600
[18:31] <mikedep333> I think the 2nd DIMm is under the keyboard
[18:31] <mikedep333> :(
[18:31] <mikedep333> ttyl
[19:43] <erstazi> bts3685|1ps: hey
[20:20] <JonathanD> can anyone use all these 1GB DDR2 laptop modules that seem to be around here?
[20:21] <JonathanD> I found 4 so far today.
[20:46] <MutantTurkey> o/
[20:50] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: "found"? Are they growing on trees?
[20:50] <JonathanD> yes.
[20:50] <ChinnoDog> sweet
[20:50] <ChinnoDog> I need a RAM tree as well.
[20:50] <JonathanD> ChinnoDog: they're in the bins here.
[20:51] <JonathanD> The bins I'm supposed to be emptying of stuff we don't need.
[20:51] <JonathanD> Like 12VDC power supplies and PC power cords.
[20:51] <JonathanD> and 1GB DDR2s
[20:51] <ChinnoDog> I could use a couple if they are available. My dad is still running Vista on 1GB. It is sad.
[20:52] <JonathanD> this is laptop ram, if you missed that.
[20:52] <JonathanD> if thats ok I have em.
[20:52] <ChinnoDog> Yes, he is running Vista with 1gb on a laptop. Even worse.
[20:52] <JonathanD> how many slots?
[20:53] <ChinnoDog> Two. I donated 512mb to him. The laptop came with 512.
[20:54] <JonathanD> Alright
[20:54] <JonathanD> I'll hold on to 2 for ya
[20:54] <ChinnoDog> yay
[20:54] <JonathanD> I just found a 5th one
[20:54] <JonathanD> and a 512
[20:54] <ChinnoDog> Ubuntu Hour RAM swap?
[20:54] <ChinnoDog> I have some old PC100. haha
[20:55] <JonathanD> what a deal :p
[20:55] <JonathanD> ooh, a microdrive
[20:55] <JonathanD> wonder if it works :/
[20:56] <JonathanD> anyone got a CF adater? :)
[20:56] <jedijf> couple
[20:57] <jedijf> cf to ide
[20:57] <JonathanD> I used to have a CF to PCMCIA
[20:57] <JonathanD> iirc I used this microdrive in my jornada
[20:57] <JonathanD> back in the day.
[20:57] <JonathanD> not much use to it these days, with multiGB SD cards out there.
[20:57] <jedijf> that too
[21:03] <MutantTurkey> I a ton of old ram
[21:04] <JonathanD> Oh no!
[21:04] <JonathanD> accidentally?
[21:28] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: WOOHOOO. my phone randomly started working with usb :
[21:28] <MutantTurkey> (:
[21:29] <MutantTurkey> wait jk :/
[21:29] <MutantTurkey> wait...
[21:29] <MutantTurkey> yes! :D
[21:30] <JonathanD> wiat
[21:31] <MutantTurkey> sigh nevermind
[21:32] <andrew> ?
[21:35] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: wait
[21:36] <jedijf> i am starting to susect that phone is not the problem
[21:36] <jedijf> suspect
[21:38] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: are you sure?
[21:38] <MutantTurkey> i feel like it is.
[21:38] <MutantTurkey> because the usb port is now only working sometimes
[21:40] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: now that you are on your more regular schedule, we have to try at franconis sometime
[21:41] <jedijf> when my schedule gets more regular
[21:41] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: yeah my new schedule is indeed fabulous
[21:44] <MutantTurkey> so whenever your free shoot me a message
[21:44] <jedijf> yeah, just would like to test on known to work system
[21:45] <jedijf> to rule out phone being bad
[21:46] <JonathanD> bad to the phone
[21:46] <jedijf> da da da da *da*
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> right
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> would AT&T replace my phone for free since i just got it recently?
[21:48] <jedijf> can't see why not, did you get it locally
[21:48] <MutantTurkey> i think right at the AT&T store by willow grove mall
[21:48] <MutantTurkey> near the olive garden
[21:48] <jedijf> next to olive garden
[21:48] <jedijf> k
[21:48] <MutantTurkey> you got it
[21:48] <jedijf> yeah, they were sold out when i got there, had to go to inside mall store and wait
[21:48] <MutantTurkey> I'd go down myself, somehow i think they'd just jerk me around and give me crappy answer cause i am not an adult
[21:49] <jedijf> that just sucks
[21:49] <jedijf> they shouldn't
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> don't you think they would?
[21:50] <jedijf> when i was younger....that would infuriate me....depends on how you carry/present yourself
[21:50] <MutantTurkey> I look like a hipster i guess, I carry myself by foot. that about sums it up.
[21:51] <jedijf> nothing ventured...nothing gained...just go in knowing that you can resolve the situation...much of it is confidence and acting like an adult
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> indeed
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> Also about the account is a giant family plan, so I'm not sure, also do i need ID or something to prove i own the phone?
[21:53] <jedijf> you may have to be the 'authorized' person,or added to the list of 'authorized' people
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> yeah i was thinking about that.
[21:53] <jedijf> last 4 social of account holder is usually required ...maybe dob
[21:54] <MutantTurkey> I'll just bring one of my parents along
[21:55] <jedijf> or that
[21:55] <jedijf> :)
[21:58] <ChinnoDog> Newegg Mobile in Android market? That is a dangerous app for me to have on my phone.
[22:00] <JonathanD> I'm very good at not buying things.
[22:00] <andrew> haha
[22:04] <JonathanD> I end up debating buying most products for so long, by the time I make my decision the product is discontinued.
[22:30] <ChinnoDog> That is a comittment problem. haha.
[22:31]  * ChinnoDog hopes his 32gb microsd from newegg arrives soon
[22:31] <JonathanD> I just tried to place my order for an Apple II.
[22:31] <JonathanD> The phone number from the catalog didn't even work anymore!
[22:40] <andrew> JonathanD: Remember, I have an Apple II sitting by my desk at work, it will soon be tossed.
[22:56] <ChinnoDog> poor apple II
[22:57] <ChinnoDog> I used to use Logo Writer on that.
[22:57] <ChinnoDog> I have a PC version somewhere. Unfortunately it is on a 5.25" floppy.