[00:27] * releaselogger ditches his unicorn repo === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger [02:16] "we are coming" [02:17] well then, we are going [02:17] "we are coming tomorrow" [02:18] nixternal: dude, you have not bee around much have you now [02:18] probably not, but then again I don't pay attention to where I have been lately :) [02:19] nixternal: well, you know, kubuntu needs you :) [02:19] no it doesn't. it has been doing fine without me. i am just a user now, totally useless doing anything else [02:20] nixternal: you still have years of experience you could teach the young the ways of the force [02:21] and abuse them to make people think you are doing things while you are in fact not :D [02:23] yeah, but if people aren't grateful, then i don't want to teach them anything. plus i am supposedly poisonous [02:23] really you are poisonous? [02:23] that's what i heard through the grapevine [02:25] odd enough [02:25] nixternal: come join phonon then [02:25] we have plenty of poisonous lazy people there :D [02:25] like markey.... :P [02:25] haha [02:26] or like apachelogger [02:26] :P [02:26] yus [02:26] we both make others also lazy and do skype stuff [02:26] most poisonous this is [02:26] i've heard your skype sesions are epic [02:26] oh, they very much are [02:28] * claydoh can't see how nixternal coulld be considered poisonous, thats a bit extreme [02:29] grapevines are thorny maybe [02:29] i think nixternal shoud just jump back in the water [02:29] it's not that bad [02:30] if only I got to made a project bottom to top [02:30] it would be a hot tub [02:31] * apachelogger would like some fish and chips [02:31] arghhh [02:31] then again I am drunk [02:32] * claydoh throws drupal against the wall, shattering it to bits [02:32] * claydoh wishes he were drunk [02:32] * apachelogger bought 2 liters of incredibly cheap white wine on his way back from campus [02:33] spent the last 3 days working around 14h per day on university projects -.- [02:40] apachelogger that sucks glad i'm no longer in university [02:43] * apachelogger actually considers dropping out as he feels incredibly unmotivated for a considerable amount of time :S [02:57] jjesse: to cold to jump into any water === v is now known as stalcup === alvin_ is now known as alvin [10:43] apachelogger: ping? [11:03] no sign of 4.6 yet it seems [11:08] Morning Riddell [12:17] steveire: semi-pong [13:58] ./../generated_cpp/com_trolltech_qt_phonon/qtscript_BackendCapabilities.cpp:53:1: error: type/value mismatch at argument 1 in template parameter list for ‘template struct QMetaTypeId’ [13:59] apachelogger: qtscriptgenerator doesn't like phonon it seems [14:04] Riddell: yeah, it needs updating === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:33] apachelogger: You had a grantlee patch a little while ago right? [14:33] yes [14:33] I tried removing the if(mingw) block and the unit tests failed [14:34] m [14:34] hm [14:34] steveire: you add Qt's defintions though? [14:37] sigh [14:37] That's already in QT_USE_FILE [14:38] gold linking-- [14:38] steveire: oh, that is not good then :S [14:38] steveire: maybe talk to the kde-windows people on how to approach this? [14:38] And the unit tests pass without the change. What is the problem you saw? [14:39] steveire: grantlee plugins not loading when built against Qt SDK [14:40] I build against the sdk as well... [14:46] :O [14:46] most strange [14:46] steveire: we are going to publish the source of our project within the next two weeks you can then try it yourself [14:47] * apachelogger actually notes that the whole codebase is one big hack as no one in his team had any idea what they were doing designwise ^^ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:29] apachelogger: Do the grantlee unit tests pass before and after your patch? [15:32] apachelogger: I'll probably tag and release the current 0.1 branch as the 0.1.8 release if I can't reproduce your issue. Your issue is probably not a regression anyway. [15:43] steveire: I dont have the setup anymore [17:09] ScottK: hmm, it FTBFS when I change it to install-arch-2.% :S [17:10] Quintasan: OK. I didn't actually try that. I just moved the 3.% rule about install-arch-%. [17:10] So I'd try that. [17:10] Oh, okay [17:11] ScottK: hmm, this is being silly, I just did it and still FTBFS, [17:11] it could be more verbose [17:11] Weird. [17:11] dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 [17:12] Does it build with no change for you? [17:12] I took the package you pointed me to, made that change, and it built. [17:12] Do you have the newest python3-defaults? [17:13] lol [17:13] ScottK: without moving anything it builds [17:13] when I cut&paste it above it ftbfs [17:13] :/ [17:13] Quintasan: Make sure you have tabs and not spaces. [17:13] vim copy/paste converts tabs to spaces. [17:14] vim/konsole, not sure which [17:15] what on earth is this [17:15] there are tabs [17:15] I'm sure of it [17:15] yet some magic occurs and breaks the build [17:15] OK, because if you just cut/paste there won't be. [17:17] ScottK: can you pastebin rules? [17:18] Sure [17:20] Quintasan: http://pastebin.com/qAdyfvby [17:20] That includes some other changes too, but I just built it. [17:26] ScottK: somehow it works [17:27] OK. So progress. [17:28] http://freeworld.thc.org/root/phun/unmaintain.html [17:28] Everything I have to say in regards to Python stuff [17:28] ;) [17:30] ScottK: ./usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/sip.cpython-31dmu.so [17:30] hehe [17:30] oh [17:30] dmu [17:30] I see [17:30] I think this solves everything [17:30] sip4-qt3 is about as narly as anything you'll run into. [17:31] ScottK: Thanks, it was as simple as that and I was thinking that the rules are wrong somewhere [17:40] apachelogger: is there a new release of phonon needing packaged? [17:41] no, doesn't look like there is [17:41] held up by kde sysadmins [17:41] no sho = no release [17:42] Riddell: I have the tars ready though if you want to get started [17:42] there are other sysadmins no? [17:42] Riddell: only sho and toma can do stuff with upload.kde.org [17:42] or want to [17:42] and toma doesnt do it very often, so I am waiting for sho [17:42] * apachelogger requested a phonon account though [17:47] Quintasan: I'd recommend looking at the output of debc. I'm not sure it's all correct. [18:01] ScottK: I did that [18:02] OK [18:04] Riddell: the Xsession.d scripts aren't run anymore at startup: bug #688393 [18:04] Launchpad bug 688393 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Global "X11/Xsession" script is not sourced in "kdm/Xsession" script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688393 [18:04] it seems like you removed the parts from 08_genkdmconf.diff: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/446#debian/patches/08_genkdmconf.diff [18:07] is that the reason why gpg-agent and ssh-agent are not working with KDE SC 4.6? [18:07] yes [18:08] ah ok [18:08] debfx: what is the reason? [18:09] neversfelde: you can try running ssh-agent [18:09] neversfelde: and copy pasting the output to a terminal [18:09] neversfelde: then it should work is an app was launched from this terminal [18:09] Quintasan: as I workaround I put something in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession, cannot remeber what atm [18:09] but it is working [18:09] Quintasan: reason for what? [18:10] debfx: gpg-agent not working [18:10] well it's not started [18:10] neversfelde: Can you check what did you put there [18:10] ? [18:11] Quintasan: see the patch attached to the bug report, I did the same [18:17] Riddell: i'll just revert that change if you don't object [18:38] * Riddell looks [18:43] debfx: that was from Debian http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kdebase-workspace.git;a=blob;f=debian/patches/08_genkdmconf.diff;h=5ad8545f7ac90f0389dadaf84358ed7eaafd379c;hb=HEAD [18:44] so we should rename the patch if we are going to differ from theirs [18:44] and it's probably worth asking why they changedit [18:45] bug 481789 [18:45] Launchpad bug 481789 in kid3 (Ubuntu) "kid3 links against libmp4v2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/481789 [18:45] I think he is right [18:47] I remember a discussion about movin kid3 back from multiverse to universe, was it because of this? [18:48] libmp4v2 is in multiverse so it would have had to go into multiverse when that was added [18:48] Riddell: Debian hasn't changed the patch [18:49] Riddell: but that does not eliminate the incompatibility of the licenses? [18:49] they still source /etc/X11/Xsession [18:50] I noticed the ssh-agent problems occured in each development release I used [18:50] It's time we do something about it [18:51] this is the first time it's broken for me, and it's pretty obvious that it's just the breakage of this patch [18:51] and I've run prerelease-since-toolchain since lucid [18:52] debfx: mm, I see, I'm getting confused by diffs of diffs [18:52] debfx: dunno why I did that then, go ahead and revert [18:52] Quintasan: ^something being done about it :P [18:54] debfx: I think I'd like to add a link to the default wallpaper link, I'm annoyed at having to change ubiquity each release for that, will add that and then we can upload [18:55] neversfelde: no, we can't have incompatible licences, even in multiverse [18:56] neversfelde: so the dependency should be removed [18:57] Riddell: k, there is also a new upstream release, so that can be done together [18:57] JontheEchidna: ping [18:57] neversfelde: go for it [18:58] ari-tczew: pong. Fontforge failed too, so I'm rebuilding my pbuilder just to make sure it's not me [18:58] JontheEchidna: as I said in the past: your pbuilder is wrong [18:58] pbuilds kde packages just fine, so I dunno why it hates autotools packages so much [18:59] nor do I really know how I would have broken it [18:59] but w/e [19:01] Also school's started back up, so I might be a bit slow about sponsoring things for the near future [19:04] Riddell: will it go to universe automatically after removing the build-dep on libmp4v2-dev? [19:05] neversfelde: no you'll need to file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive [19:05] k, thanks [19:05] JontheEchidna: easy, I'm slowing down with Ubuntu ;) [19:06] (as well) [19:06] http://i.imgur.com/Q1h2J.jpg [19:06] (unrelated to anything, but still awesome) :) [19:11] sheytan: hey sheytan, can you do a quick kde related background for my blog? :P [19:11] sheytan: and more importantly: where is Neon logo? :PP [19:12] Quintasan: 1) show me your blog 2) you already saw it [19:13] sheytan: Ad. 2) I did? lol [19:13] sheytan: http://quintasan.blogspot.com/ [19:13] sigh [19:13] everyone blogs [19:13] but me [19:13] I have two blogs but I didn't blog anything in a loooong time [19:14] Time to change tat [19:14] that* [19:14] likewise here [19:15] Quintasan: background tomorrow, [19:15] sheytan: thanks [19:15] * Quintasan is writing up a draft of Project Neon release post [19:22] the logo hase to be remake. I lost the files ;/ [19:22] :< [19:23] Quintasan: its too early!!! shouldnt we wait for git migration to be complete? [19:23] also [19:23] It's just a draft [19:23] Worry not. [19:23] saidinesh5 reported some CPU issues with neon [19:23] ok :) [19:23] Apparently neon eats your CPU [19:24] I bet I will change it over 9000 times to include some unnecessary banter and few adjectives to brag about my English :P [19:24] :P [19:34] the new red quassel notification icon is really eye-catching [19:34] sheytan: any progress on phonon page? [19:34] maco: Quassel is the same in Maverick and Natty. [19:35] ScottK: im on maverick... but i never saw the red thing until ... today [19:35] Red thing? [19:35] the ring of fire [19:35] yes, the quassel icon turns red for the circle part and stays blue for the little ball in the middle [19:35] Ah. That. [19:38] im confused by it, since it just started this boot, and i havent updated in weeks [19:43] is natty known to be currently uninstallable? [19:43] having fun playing with the alternative installer [19:45] it is a pre-release, that implies instability [19:45] i know [20:11] hey [20:11] what is nepomukbackup and why is it important enough to be part of kdebase-runtime? [20:11] highvoltage: it backups your nepomuk database [20:12] * apachelogger wishes something would backup his pr0n [20:13] coudl be a useful enough feature for phonon I suppose [20:13] * highvoltage tries to figure out whether that would be useful to any edubuntu users [20:13] apachelogger: why? the internet probably already has all your pr0n backed up [20:13] hm [20:13] good point [20:13] but how dreadful it would be to find it all again :P [20:13] pr0nlogger:P [20:13] oh I thought that was the fun part [20:14] highvoltage: anyhow, not useful to edubuntu users as currently none of the kde apps in kdeedu use nepomuk [20:14] at least I would not be aware of any [20:14] * apachelogger continues coding the java [20:14] so what is a nepomuk database anyway? [20:14] ok, I could probably hide nepomukdatabase from the menu [20:15] highvoltage: semantic desktop data [20:15] but it really doesn't seem like something that should be in kdebase-runtime from what I can see [20:15] (or file search :P) [20:15] depending on ones POV [20:15] like yesterday a phonon dev called zeitgeist a history tracker ;) [20:20] Riddell: I've pushed the fix to the bzr branch [20:44] well apt-get install kubuntu-desktop seemed to work fine after the failure during software install in todays natty alternate [20:47] seaLne: what was the failure? [20:47] I used a daily CD from today fine [20:48] some dependancy issue with with OOo/libre [20:50] new openoffice packager doesn't start until after fosdem [20:50] but then we'll have someone to moan to :) [20:50] openoffice.org-calc depends libreoffice-calc which is not installable [20:51] also for -impress, -kde, -style-oxygen and -writer [20:53] Riddell and seaLne: The libreoffice binaries are in Universe, so they wouldn't have been available to the installer, but are post-install. [20:55] ah, yeah i manually wrote in all the repositories [20:56] so that was an accurate failure then === cmagina is now known as cmagina-afk === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina [23:28] qtwebkit down to 28MB, 10 times smaller than the last upload [23:30] Nice [23:31] and flash breakage has gone, time to uninstall chromium [23:31] very nice [23:34] html5 audio and video seems to work nicely (with ogg at least) [23:38] any idea what caused the dramatic decrease? [23:39] no .git dir? ;) [23:40] JontheEchidna: I removed a load of unused directories [23:40] aha, so it wasn't upstream coming to their senses ;-) [23:40] apachelogger: it was > 1GB with the .git directory [23:42] gtkwebkit's .orig is only 8 MiB [23:42] yeah .git can grow epic