[00:52] <jaafar> hi folks.  Since I upgraded to 10.10 my taskbar has been half black background, half gray.  Transition point occurs midway through one of the task buttons, maybe 60% of the way from the left side of the screen.  Is this by design? It looks strange.
[00:54] <Guest73042> say me please russian kubuntu channel
[01:05] <Guest73042> who can help me? I have some problems with plasmoids, servicemenus, kdm themes and splashscreens
[01:08] <Guest73042> anybody home? ^)
[01:16] <jaafar> Gues73042: perhaps it would be best to post a specific question.  Then people who know may answer.
[01:16] <jaafar> make that "Guest73042"
[01:20] <Guest73042> i cant install servicemenus, splashscreens, kde themes, plasmoids. I click "install" and a button "delete" but the list is nothing new there.
[01:40] <gsteinert> evening all. ive been having a problem with my 10.10 install. it seems that every time i try to interact with a kde program, the X server jumps to 100% CPU usage and interaction is VERY slow
[01:42] <gsteinert> using oprofile, i have discovered that this seems to be due to the nvidia driver i have installed (i shall check fro  verion in a moment)
[01:42] <gsteinert> i had this issue in 10.04 and it made me downgrade back to 9.10, but its only just presented itself thsi badly
[01:43] <gsteinert> gnome programs and chromium work absolutely fine
[01:43] <gsteinert> anyone experiencing similar problems?
[01:46] <junfan> Anyone know how to get multiple icon rows in the plasma panel? I've seen screenshots not using a launcher to do it and found  mail list messages with people saying it works, but for the life of me can't figure it out.
[02:00] <FloridaGuy>  i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[02:10] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[02:55] <jf_> hi
[02:56] <jf_> on booting kubuntu I get 'failed to load i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled on boot', and until kdm starts, it stays in text mode
[02:57] <jf_> I'm on 10.10 and it's a thinkpad t510 with an nvidia quadro card
[02:57] <jf_> could I get it to do a graphical boot?
[02:58] <e_t_> jf_: Check this out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/651104
[02:59] <e_t_> There's a partial solution in the comments toward the end. It worked for me.
[03:00] <jf_> thanks very much!
[03:10] <cato37> hello. is there a way to change rekonq so that there is a separate address and search bar?
[03:12] <cato37> !rekonq
[04:19] <abbyschuto> grr wifi on xfce is giving me fits
[04:21] <abbyschuto> ok older laptop w/ a 43xx brodcom internal wifi card. any suggestions?
[04:30] <abbyschuto> ok what rots my soxs is some of the manpages are so out of date.
[04:57] <jf_> hi, I'm trying to access a windows share via smb:// in dolphin, but it asks for a username and password, the shares are set to not be password protected though (and can work fine from a windows computer), if I mount it with 'mount -t cifs' it also asks for a password but I can just enter anything and it mounts
[04:57] <jf_> how can I get smb:// to work in dolphin? if I don't enter anything the dialog just pops up again
[05:08] <abbyschuto> god i  can remember back in the 90's when the linux irc chans were active. Crap load of people and no one is home
[05:18] <Spaztic_One> when changing the background, some of the effects on the widgets (kde micro blog) still have the effects from the stock background ethais. How can I either change them or get rid of them entirely?
[05:42] <seawing> I am running 9.04 64 and have run out of room on my hard drive while downloading something.  When I got the noticce I deleted some unesisary items and noticed that no mater how much I deleted, it still said I had 0% space left.  I restarted and now I can't log in.  I can view my files using a live disk, but I can't even log in in safe mode.  can anyone help?
[06:04] <seawing> Am I logged in correctly? hello?
[06:05] <Spaztic_One> You're here
[06:06] <Spaztic_One> Just not a great many people here (actively) and if nobody knows the answer, then nobody is likely to say anything.
[06:16] <seawing> thank you. I'll check back later. :)
[07:06] <ggeorgy> hi  :)
[07:17] <ggeorgy> do you know a way to increase volume in a video file ???
[07:18] <ggeorgy> like this http://www.coolutils.com/blog/increase-volume-in-video-files/ but is for windows
[07:20] <ggeorgy> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[07:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[08:38] <ggeorgy> can you help me with my problem???
[08:39] <ggeorgy> i have some video for my phone but the sound is too low
[08:41] <ggeorgy> can you reply to my question??please
[08:42] <ggeorgy> ???????????????????????????????????
[08:43] <ggeorgy> ???
[08:44] <ggeorgy> ??
[08:44] <ggeorgy> ?
[08:47] <ggeorgy>  :(
[08:49] <xgalactiaboyx> i have a computer with 480mb of ram, 20g hard drive with onboard graphics, not a graphics card and a pentium 4 processor, will Kubuntu 10.10 run properly on my system?
[08:50] <valorie> xgalactiaboyx: there is one sure way to find out
[08:51] <valorie> burn a liveCD and try it out
[08:51] <valorie> if you like it, install it
[08:51] <valorie> if not, you're out the time to download and burn to a CD or USB stick
[08:52] <xgalactiaboyx> well the reason I am asking is I am tires of switchin operating systems to find this stuff out, i am almost fed up with it! lol I have linux mint 9 and the help forums are terrible and extremely rude, i love ubuntu and kubuntu and the help forums are awesome, but i was just wondering if that at least met the mimimum system requrements for kubuntu
[08:53] <valorie> I'm sure the 10.10 page on kubuntu.org has that information
[08:53] <valorie> I don't know off the top of my head
[08:53] <xgalactiaboyx> i am looking but i cannot find it anywhere
[08:54] <valorie> but on the other hand, the minimum requirements might not be "good" for you
[08:54] <valorie> that's rather subjective
[08:56] <starkiller> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:56] <starkiller> hackers
[08:56] <valorie> hmmm, I don't really see a minimum requirement anywhere
[08:57] <valorie> how old is your computer, and what is mint 9 based on?
[08:57] <valorie> I know it's an older ubuntu
[08:57] <xgalactiaboyx> Linux Mint 9 is Based on Ubuntu
[08:58] <xgalactiaboyx> umm give me a sec and ill find what version
[08:58] <valorie> if it's 10.04, and your computer is less than 5 years old, I can't see why you wouldn't be able to upgrade
[08:58] <valorie> right, I knew it was based on ubuntu
[08:58] <starkiller> hii
[08:59] <xgalactiaboyx> Linux Mint 9 is based off of Ubuntu Lucid Lynx
[09:00] <valorie> ok, that's 10.04
[09:01] <valorie> and if you are running fine now, you should be good
[09:01] <xgalactiaboyx> well i guess i am coning to Ubuntu then I will see the ubuntu help forums here in a few minutes when it is installed
[09:01] <xgalactiaboyx> haha thank you so much for you help
[09:01] <valorie> but as I say, doesn't take you more than a few mins to burn a CD or USB key
[09:01] <xgalactiaboyx> see this place is soo much better than linux mint
[09:01] <valorie> and be sure
[09:01] <valorie> :-)
[09:01] <xgalactiaboyx> BE PROUD UBUNTU USERS, YOU ARE THE BEST!
[09:01] <valorie> we like it here!
[09:02] <valorie> and we try to make it friendly and helpful
[09:02] <xgalactiaboyx> and what a wonderful job you do
[09:03] <valorie> heh -- I'm the least technical person here, I think
[09:03] <xgalactiaboyx> haha
[09:03] <valorie> !minimum
[09:04] <xgalactiaboyx> hehe well thanks im off to intall ubuntu now
[09:04] <valorie> too bad, our bot knows lots that I don't....
[09:11] <Hedron> Hi everybody, I have a problem with KMail
[09:11] <Hedron> whenever I copy-paste something with it, I get html code instead of the text I selected
[09:11] <Hedron> is there a way to fix this
[09:16] <valorie> sheesh!
[09:20] <GenCustard> hello all, just installed LAMP .. is there an equivalent to IIS for Apache server or the fact I'm not on Ubuntu server limits my server to running just one website?
[09:22] <valorie> GenCustard: (love the nick, btw) - sounds like #httpd might have your answers
[09:22] <valorie> since no one here is answering
[09:23] <valorie> this is a rather slow time in this chan
[09:26] <Kolia> GenCustard: what? no it should not limit anything
[10:12] <ryrych> good morning :)
[10:13] <ryrych> have you experienced freezes using Akregator with WekKit Kpart?
[10:30] <ubuntu> hi, I just booted kubuntu live from a usb stick on my notebook, but the wireless doesn't work, what can I do?
[10:32] <jtheuer__> ask google if your driver should be supported. then, check if the hardware is enabled (kill switch, bios, ..)
[10:33] <ubuntu> I have 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)
[10:34] <ubuntu> 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)
[10:34] <jtheuer__> i'm not google
[10:34] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:35] <jtheuer__> and, I guess that is an ethernet card, not a wifi
[10:35] <ubuntu> might be
[10:35] <ubuntu> where do I see which wifi card I have/
[10:35] <jtheuer__> then, plug-in a cable
[10:35] <ubuntu> ?
[10:35] <ubuntu> I have a cable pkugged in now
[10:50] <ubuntu> hi, I just booted kubuntu live from a usb stick on my notebook, but the wireless doesn't work, what can I do?
[11:15] <alan__> hi all, i'm a newbie with Ubuntu, but getting to like it
[12:28] <HandyGandy> Hey now that I got kde to work, my desktop  seems to either go to sleep or hibernate if I leave it alone enough. How do I stop that?
[12:46] <morticum> hi, is there any way to set the number of lines scrolled by the TOUCHPAD
[12:46] <morticum> (not the mouse)
[12:47] <morticum> the settings between the mouse scroll wheel and the touchpad appear to be independent
[12:47] <morticum> which wouldn't be so odd if there were independent settings for the touchpad...but I can't find any. I can't even find anything in synclient.
[13:33] <groots> thanks for yours congratulations
[13:33] <groots> but i'm many questions for you
[13:35] <groots> can i receive answers to you?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:12] <santhust> hi
[14:13] <freinhard> usb-creator-kde can't handle non-ubuntu liveCDs?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> freinhard, pls explian in more detail
[14:16] <freinhard> start usb-creator-kde, click on the button for adding iso images, choose some opensuse image, nothing happens, no warning no error no nothing
[14:17] <rork> freinhard: that is correct
[14:18] <rork> freinhard: you can use unetbootin for opensuse, it's available in the repositories
[14:19] <freinhard> anyways, some errormessage would be nice
[14:20]  * freinhard goes reporting a bug
[14:21] <BluesKaj> freinhard, from the description ,usb-creator-kde is for creating a startup disk : "Startup Disk Creator converts a USB key or SD card into a volume from which you can start up and run Ubuntu." , obviously not meant to run opensuse
[14:22] <freinhard> BluesKaj: failing silently is bad practise anyways
[14:23] <freinhard> besides, i guess usb-creator-kde does the same as dd=some.iso of=/dev/sd<xyz> + some magic and there i can't see, why it's limited to *buntu images
[14:25] <BluesKaj> freinhard, the description also says "The program also works for Debian, or any other Debian-based OS for which you have a CD or .iso image.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> so opensuse isn't gonna work :)
[14:27] <freinhard> BluesKaj: i don't care if it's ever gonna work, but i care about that nonexistent message telling me that it's never gonna work
[14:29] <BluesKaj> freinhard, well, reading about an application to find out how and what it will work with is probly good practice too.
[14:31] <eldowan> I've installed kubuntu 10.10 on a machine at home, and really dislike kde4. I've ben using kde3.5 for years and it fits my workflow nicely. Is there a way to install kde3 in my 10.10 install, hopefully alongside kde4 so I have access to the newer apps as well, if need be?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !kde3 | eldowan
[14:35] <eldowan> Thanks BluesKaj, I'll check that out, and if that's not what I'm after I may see if someone maintains a version of kde3 that will install parallel to 4.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> eldowan, my experience with the earlier kde4 versions was disappointing , but after 4.3 the apps are much more stable except for kontact /kmail  it's a mess , still ..so I dumped it
[14:38] <eldowan> I installed 10 here, and also tried debian squeeze, hoping it was just kubuntu's flavor of kde. I dislike the fundamental operating methods of the new kde. Maybe I just need a few months to figure it out, but it doesn't seem nearly as customizable as 3
[14:41] <BluesKaj> eldowan, right ..one can always check out the #kde channel ...they aren't biased agiinst kde3 users :)
[14:41] <eldowan> heh. true
[14:42] <eldowan> Thanks for the tips and help though. although I am slow to get with the changes, it's nice to see someone helping.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> eldowan, the work environment is too important to experiment with changes , but kde4 is definitely mature enough for now (other than kmail IMO)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> err to use now ..getting ahead of myself
[15:00] <BluesKaj> hmm I just updated on natty and openoffice is bring removed in favour of libreoffice , not that I use office suites much , but it's an interesting development nontheless
[15:18] <rtdos> how do i totally remove and purge the gnome / ubuntu desktop ? i checked kpackagekit and synaptic and even ran "sudo apt-get remove --purge" for gnome-desktop environment and ubuntu-desktop and i still have gnome / ubuntu installed (but the system says I do not)?
[15:20] <rork> !purekde | rtdos
[15:22] <rork> ubuntu-desktop is a !metapackage, its dependencies aren't removed when you remove it
[15:28] <rtdos> rork: it only lists upto ubuntu 9.10 - will it work with 10.10 ?
[15:30] <rork> rtdos: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde feel free to add them to the wiki ;)
[15:30] <rtdos> thanks, rork. :)
[15:31] <rtdos> i was about ready to try the 9.10 but this looks much safer. :)
[15:32] <rtdos> ahox, rork, i see what might've happened: when i pasted the first one to remove 'ubuntu' it said that i have broken packages. how do i find out which ones or fix them?
[15:35] <rork> rtdos: `sudo apt-get check` should do the job
[15:40] <rtdos> rork: this is what was returned: Reading package lists... Done - Building dependency tree        - Reading state information... Done -
[15:41] <rork> rtdos: "check is a diagnostic tool; it updates the package cache and checks for broken dependencies." It should be ok then.
[15:44] <rtdos> rork: so i shouldn't be too concerned about these messages: http://pastebin.com/tfv0rpa8 ?
[15:47] <rork> rtdos: you don't HAVE broken packages, some packages are not going to be installed because they have conflicting dependencies, which apt-get command are you using?
[15:50] <rtdos> fromt the link you sent me? the first one: which shows 'sudo apt-get remove'
[15:58] <rtdos> rork: i'm sure this is a dumb question but what does the 'build-dep' switch do when using 'sudo apt-get' ?
[16:00] <rork> rtdos: build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package. see `man apt-get`
[16:00] <Pici> rtdos: It downloads and installs the packages that were needed to compile the source for the package.
[16:01] <voicu> hello, how can I have 2 separate logins in kubuntu? I made X start with 1 screen for each monitor but how can I run 2 kdms, each with a different keyboard+mouse?
[16:01] <rork> As to the unmet dependencies I have no idea, maybe someone else knows
[16:02] <voicu> just so it's clear, I want the logins to be simultaneous
[16:02] <rtdos> ok thanks rork (and Pici)
[16:10] <genii-around> !multiseat
[16:10] <genii-around> Hm
[16:12] <BluesKaj> rtdos, unmet dependencies can be fixed by using the recovery kernel to boot in , then you'll get a dialog with "fix broken packages " option in the list , choose that , then after the fix is done reboot normally or startx
[16:12] <genii-around> voicu: I haven't tried this lately myself, but you may want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[16:14] <rtdos> ok i'll try that, thanks BluesKaj - the reason I was asking is that i still have ubuntu / gnome desktop(s) on my system even though kpackagekit and synaptic (and sudo apt-get) all say i do not.
[16:14] <voicu> genii-around: hmm, i'll try, thanks
[16:15] <BluesKaj> rtdos, synaptic can do the same thing as the recovery procedure , I beleive it's under edit in synaptic /fix broken packages
[16:24] <rtdos> OK
[16:31] <BajK_> yeah, so I managed to increase my mom's pc speed and responsiveness by a factor of 4 :)
[16:33] <BajK_> what I did was: Disabled tty3 through tty6, mounted /tmp to tmpfs, disabled nepomuk and strigi, and: PRELINK
[16:34] <BajK_> now even her pc rocks
[16:34] <BajK_> and I upgraded her 4.5.5 to 4.6 RC 2 and added the bleeding edge X ppa with the most recent drivers
[16:46] <m_tadeu> hi...my amarok crashed but drkonqui can't find the debug symbols
[17:04] <kklimonda> hey, are there daily natty images for kubuntu?
[17:15] <rtdos> is there a way to re-install kubuntu and or KDE with all apps kubuntu comes with? "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" and "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-full" doesn't seem to reinstall the default kubuntu apps.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> rtdos, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:20] <rtdos> OK
[17:25] <rork> !daily kklimonda
[17:26] <rork> !daily
[17:26] <kklimonda> rork: thanks, I had to find http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ by browsing the folder tree :)
[17:28] <rork> yes, kubuntu images aren't listed there either
[17:28] <rork> * on the link I gave
[17:40] <pulaski> Hello, I recently upgraded from kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 on my amd64 runnig kde 4.5.95 and power management appears broken. After my box goes to 'sleep" I can no longer bring it back by pressing any key or a click of the mouse. I have to reboot. I asked about this over in #kde and a person there told me its probably related to the kubuntu update. Has anyone else experienced something similar after updating to 10.10?
[17:41] <vanguard> I have 10.10 installed directly and my iMac suspends fine
[17:43] <Peace-> pulaski: ok it's a note bug
[17:43] <Peace-> pulaski: are your there ?
[17:43] <Peace-> i have the fix :D
[17:43] <pulaski> Peace-: yes thanks for responding
[17:44] <pulaski> Peace-: fix :D?
[17:44] <Peace-> pulaski: is this ? http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/nm_disabled.png?w=319&h=119
[17:44] <Peace-> pulaski: i mean your problem?
[17:45] <Peace-> pulaski: oh sorry it's the power
[17:45] <pulaski> Peace-: Thanks for the link I'll check it out.
[17:45] <Peace-> i have read network
[17:45] <Peace-> pulaski: nope man it's not your problem
[17:45] <Peace-> pulaski: i gues it's a kernel problem that you have
[17:46] <Peace-> you know upgrading kernel you got a bad one that doesn't handle the acpi well for your computer
[17:46] <Peace-> i gues you have to try some options on the kernel like nolapic
[17:46] <Peace-> no acpi
[17:46] <Peace-> and so on
[17:48] <pulaski> Peace-: Thanks for your suggestions. I'm not a very sophisticated user. I do regular updates though. Do you think others are working on this problem and regular updates will fix it?
[17:48] <Peace-> pulaski: i guess.. no i had this problem some years ago... and to see the fix i had to write on launchpad...
[17:49] <Peace-> pulaski: anyway i guess youcan fix by yourself
[17:49] <Peace-> beacuse with some option on the kernel you can get the stuff
[17:49] <Peace-> i mean you have to modify grub.cfg...
[17:50] <Peace-> pulaski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=menuf6.1.png
[17:50] <Peace-> pulaski: it's somethign like that
[17:51] <pulaski> Peace-: Thanks for the link. I don't know what nolapic is but I think grub will let me select kernels. I'll check out the new link, thanks again.
[17:51] <Peace-> pulaski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[17:51] <Peace-> pulaski: if you look down there is the screen for the grub story
[17:52] <pulaski> Peace-: Got it, thanks.
[17:54] <eMyller> hello
[17:54] <eMyller> i have a bass here and i wanna plug it into my kubuntu box
[17:55] <Peace-> mm
[17:55] <Peace-> xD
[17:55] <eMyller> how can i redirect audio input (mic) directly to output?
[17:55] <Peace-> i guess with jack ?
[17:55] <Peace-> !jack
[17:55] <Peace-> mm
[17:55] <Peace-> xD sorry but well it's not my area
[17:56] <eMyller> p2, normal microphone input
[17:57] <Peace-> eMyller: you got 10.10 ?
[17:58] <Peace-> eMyller: kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 ?
[18:04] <eMyller> Peace-: sorry. yea, 10.10
[18:05] <Spaztic_One> I have a couple problems with kubuntu, one is that if I tell my laptop to suspend to ram, it freezes just before it enters the low power state. I have to suspend to disk to get it to enter low power, but upon resuming, there are various graphical artifacts on some things, like the slide bar for the kde micro blog.
[18:05] <Peace-> eMyller: mm you want connect the mic to kubuntu , then use your bass  and record via mic ?
[18:06] <seawing_> I am running 9.04 64 and have run out of room on my hard drive while downloading something.  When I got the noticce I deleted some unesisary items and noticed that no mater how much I deleted, it still said I had 0% space left.  I restarted and now I can't log in.  I can view my files using a live disk, but I can't even log in in safe mode.  can anyone help?
[18:06] <eMyller> Peace-: no, i just want the audio input to go directly to output
[18:06] <eMyller> the bass is connected to the mic port
[18:06] <Peace-> eMyller: so the audio from your bas on the speaker of pc?
[18:06] <Peace-> eMyller: oh ok
[18:06] <Peace-> i got it
[18:06] <eMyller> yep
[18:07] <Peace-> mm i guess you need advanced stuff like jack jackd
[18:07] <eMyller> i have it
[18:07] <eMyller> but i can't make it work
[18:08] <Peace-> eMyller: mm have you started jackd ?
[18:08] <eMyller> every audio is now processed by PA, but i can't handle it
[18:08] <eMyller> yes
[18:08] <Peace-> eMyller: ok so
[18:08] <Peace-> there are 2 options i guess
[18:08] <Peace-> or remove pulse...
[18:08] <Peace-> or use a gtk stuff
[18:08] <Peace-> :D
[18:08] <Peace-> which one ?
[18:09] <Peace-> eMyller: to remove or install the gtk stuff read this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/
[18:09] <eMyller> gstreamer?
[18:09] <eMyller> reading...
[18:10] <Peace-> eMyller: nome
[18:10] <Peace-> nope
[18:12] <Spaztic_One> seawing_: Curious, how big is your drive, and have you tried removing the file you were downloading? (I assume it never finished?)
[18:13] <seawing_> hmm...I did not tru to delet that file, I deleted some other files that I had backed up to free space.  I will try that though.
[18:13] <eMyller> Peace-: that worked, thanks! :D
[18:14] <Peace-> eMyller: what?
[18:14] <Spaztic_One> seawing_: did the file finish, or did it stop before it could?
[18:14] <eMyller> Peace-: using alsa only
[18:14] <eMyller> (removing PA)
[18:14] <Peace-> eMyller: heheheh i hate pulse :D that is my blog
[18:14] <seawing_> it did not finnish.  it was a bit torrent
[18:15] <seawing_> I think I have 147gigs on that partition
[18:15] <eMyller> Peace-: thanks for the info :)
[18:15] <Peace-> :)
[18:16] <Spaztic_One> seawing_: Ah, didn't know ou were using torrent, thought it was just a regular ftp download or something. There were two reasons why I suggested deleting that one, one is that (assuming ftp moreso than torrent) the file wouldn't have finished, and so it wouldn't have the [end of file] marker, which could cause some problems. the other reason is that it was the last thing you did before your computer got screwy.
[18:19] <seawing_> yes, I agree that that had something to do with it.  I seem to remember something like this happening years ago, but I dont remember what the solution was.  I think it has something to do with x.
[18:20] <seawing_> I am due for an upgrade, but wasn't really ready to do that yet
[18:20] <Spaztic_One> seawing_: any particular reason why not?
[18:23] <Spaztic_One> brb
[18:23] <seawing_> well, actually I am in the middle of a project where I am using phatch files to modify images that are coming to me from a client.  I recently upgraded my laptop and the newer version of phatch will not read the older version files.  I wanted to finish the project first rather than redoing all of the phatch files in the new format.
[18:23] <Spaztic_One> ah
[18:25] <seawing_> also, I am waiting for a friend to help me with a vbox instalization but that isn.t as critical.  Perhaps this is forcing my hand though.  less time fixing a borken machine
[18:31] <seawing_> actually, you made me think.  It may not have been the torrent that was the final straw.  it could have been any small little file downloaded into the tmp directory or something.
[18:36] <seawing_> ok, one question, if I go ahead and put in the 10.10 cd and do an upgrade, is there any reason that I may run into trouble because of the full HD?  I did delete a couple gigs I think, but it was not showing that I did before I shut it down and couldn't log in again.
[18:41] <eMyller> Peace-: lol, too much noise :|
[18:41] <Peace-> eMyller: mm
[18:41] <Peace-> eMyller: bad mic?
[18:41] <Peace-> xD
[18:41] <Peace-> eMyller: put less mic boost
[18:41] <eMyller> it's on 0
[18:41] <Peace-> eMyller: in capture try to set lower volume
[18:43] <eMyller> Peace-: a bit cleaner...
[18:43] <eMyller> i think i'll have to buy some hardware :|
[18:44] <Peace-> eMyller: mm wait ..
[18:44] <Peace-> eMyller: set well the volume... of capture could be that
[18:44] <Peace-> eMyller: on konsole type
[18:44] <Peace-> eMyller: alsamixer -V all
[18:44] <Peace-> and try to set volumes
[18:45] <eMyller> Peace-: kmix already gives me that; weird, mic volume doesn't count in the result
[18:46] <Peace-> mm you have not the mic volume ?
[18:46] <Peace-> ah ok understood
[18:46] <Peace-> eMyller: i guess is capture you have to set
[18:47] <Peace-> not the mic volume
[18:47] <Peace-> i have a mic (1 uero ) and if i don't set well caputre i got a lots of noise
[18:47] <Peace-> capture
[18:48] <eMyller> Peace-: oh, the capture channel wasn't visible
[18:48] <eMyller> now it is
[18:48] <eMyller> tweaking...
[18:49] <eMyller> Peace-: much cleaner :D
[18:50] <Peace-> eMyller: :)
[18:50] <eMyller> thanks again.
[18:50] <Peace-> bye man
[18:50] <Peace-> i have to go
[18:50] <eMyller> cya :)
[18:53] <GHH> If i remove kdm then will it be any harm?
[18:57] <GHH> i want to remove it because i like to login konsole user and password prompt
[18:58] <genii-around> GHH: You'll just need to issue: startx   after you login from console
[18:58] <GHH> yeah that is it i need
[18:59] <GHH> So for this i need to remove kdm?
[18:59] <GHH> genii-around,
[19:01] <GHH> I do not want GUI login interface
[19:03] <tsimpson> GHH: if you just want to disable KDM, you can just edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and put anything other than "/usr/bin/kdm" in there
[19:05] <GHH> tsimpson, But is it not safe removing kdm (Space)?
[19:05] <tsimpson> it's safe enough, you just won't have KDM installed and will have to start X and KDE manually
[19:08] <GHH> tsimpson, Its mean that it wont ask only the user and password with GUI interface because i need to type startx for Desktop... right?
[19:09] <rtdos> 2 questions: how do i play dvd's in kubuntu and how do i set java (from sun) as default instead of openjava ?
[19:09] <tsimpson> yes, you'll login at the text terminal and then start X manually
[19:10] <GHH> tsimpson, Thanks
[19:12] <pimeja_> i have old laptop that does not support boot from usb, CD with old ubuntu and I want to install newer ubuntu on the laptop
[19:12] <GHH> tsimpson, 1 more question
[19:12] <pimeja_> for this i burn new kubuntu on usb. How would I directly boot from live CD to usb? is it possible?
[19:13] <tsimpson> rtdos: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs for DVDs. for java, once you install sun-java6-plugin, use "sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun"
[19:14] <GHH> tsimpson, If i Edit menu (kmenuedit) and run remastersys tool for backup(Live cd purpose) then Will it save also the edited menu?
[19:14] <rtdos> thanks tsimpson.
[19:15] <tsimpson> GHH: when you edit the menu the changes are saved in your home directory, so as long as it backs-up your home directory it will be saved
[19:16] <GHH> tsimpson, Will it be system-wide? I mean for all user account?
[19:17] <tsimpson> no, only for your user
[19:18] <genii-around> GHH: Apologies on lag, work required me for an extended period. I am glad to see you have found other help.
[19:20] <GHH> tsimpson, Is there anyway working with menu for creating a live cd (ISO) so that it become default menu for all user account?
[19:20] <GHH> genii-around, np
[19:23] <tsimpson> GHH: you can create custom live CDs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but editing the default menus is more complex
[19:23] <tsimpson> there is usually only one user on the live CD anyway
[19:23] <GHH> tsimpson, I done that
[19:24] <GHH> tsimpson, Just i need the menu edit only
[19:24] <tsimpson> if you edit the menu for the default user on the live CD, then you don't need to edit the system files
[19:26] <GHH> tsimpson, I have 200-300 GUI and command line software/tools in folder and Just i need to add this folder to the menu so that i/users can click directly to execute
[19:30] <Kor03d> Huloall
[19:56] <seawing> So here is the weird thing, I have been locked out of kde when my disk ran out of room.  I log in with a live cd and delete several gigs of stuff.  then I click on properties for my home partition and it says that there are 0 B free of 168 gigs where I use to have 176 gigs.  it is like the partition is shrinking when I delet things.
[19:58] <seawing> oh, then when it calculates the size it says 165.2 gigs.  Should I ignore this when I go to install 10.10 and it asks if I have at least 2.6 gigs of free space?
[20:01] <tsimpson> seawing: you don't need to "install" 10.10, you can just upgrade with the package manager
[20:04] <seawing> that is true, in my experience things go better with a fresh install, especially since I am upgrading from 9.04
[20:05] <tsimpson> if you're doing a fresh install, then everything on the partition will be wiped anyway
[20:05] <seawing> there is an option to keep the home directory. or at least there use to be.
[20:06] <seawing> That is what I did when I recently upgraded my laptop
[20:06] <tsimpson> there's an option to not format, which is why a lot of people have separate /home partitions
[20:06] <seawing> right
[20:07] <tsimpson> if you have a separate /home, then it doesn't matter (for the installer) how much space is there, only on the root partition
[20:07] <tsimpson> or wherever /usr is mostly
[20:07] <seawing> ohhhhh...right
[20:08] <seawing> so no problem
[20:11] <seawing> here is the thing I just discovered, when I calculate just my home directory it says it only has 48.3 gigs but when I highlight all of the directories from bin to var, that is when it says 165 gigs.  is there a temp file that could be overloaded or something?
[20:12] <vanguard> there should be some program that shows you the sizes graphically
[20:12] <vanguard> like Disk Inventory X on osx, I'll look for it
[20:12] <Space_Man> maybe your wastebin/trashcan is full
[20:13] <vanguard> seawing: fsview it is
[20:15] <seawing> I am viewing the HD from a live disk.  is fsview a shell command or...
[20:18] <kyubutsu> thats why i prefer to use shift+delete
[20:19] <seawing> I do usually too.
[20:19] <kyubutsu> multiple trash bin issue gotta go  >:(
[20:21] <seawing> it really becomes an issue when you are trashing stuff on removeable media and dont realize that a trash bit is being filled there.
[20:22] <kyubutsu> also found it useful to be root when deleting all that extra garbage
[20:22] <seawing> I have to be from the live disk
[20:23] <kyubutsu> but in some instances even then i still had wierd issues where files still remained undeleted
[20:24] <kyubutsu> so, i backup everything dear to me, and plow thru everything on fresh install..
[20:24] <kyubutsu> end
[20:25] <seawing> I really don't want to upgrade yet but it looks like that is the simplest solution
[20:26] <kyubutsu> obviously the problem can be worsen by a)multi-boot b)size of data to backup , for example..
[20:30] <seawing> I have everything backed up.  I guess i will go for it.
[20:30] <kyubutsu> godspeed
[20:33] <seawing> do I want to unmount the partitions?
[20:34] <kyubutsu> sure
[20:34] <kyubutsu> leave it like no ones coming home
[20:34] <kyubutsu> :-P
[20:36] <BajK> hm every secondth appointment from google calendar is not in my kde calendar
[20:41] <seawing> is ext 3 or ext4 beter?
[20:42] <maco> ext3 has more years of testing and stability behind it, ext4 has more speed
[20:42] <maco> "better" is based on which is more important to you
[20:44] <seawing> I see.
[20:44] <kyubutsu> to me its like the 32 vs 64 debate..  i say go ext4
[20:45] <seawing> I'n runing 64 so why not
[20:45] <kyubutsu> which is the default as far as i can tell
[20:45] <kyubutsu> so there, 64 and ext4, nothing wrong with that
[20:46] <kyubutsu> thats what am running
[20:59] <alessandro> Ciao
[21:22] <seawing> I did a fresh install from a live disk and it won't let me log in.  Is there a way to check a password, or do I need to start over?
[21:24] <vanguard> hmm, I guess you can somehow reset the password with a life CD
[21:26] <Murchadh> seawing: http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/howto-recover-root-password_54.html
[21:26] <genii-around> yes, eg: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && chroot /mnt                  then: passwd <username>        and exit, etc
[21:26] <seawing> thanks
[21:27] <genii-around> seawing: Use of course the correct hard drive designation, sda1 was an example here
[21:31] <rtdos> how do i change the screen resolution from the command line?
[21:42] <genii-around> rtdos: Basically: sudo xrandr -s HxV       where H is horizontal pixels and V is vertical pixels
[21:56] <rtdos> thx
[23:12] <rtdos> is there a way to launch Akregator minimized (in the system tray) ?
[23:22] <luis_> hello guys good afternoon to you all i like to ask for your help to install the newest version of wine, i do need it to make work some web page correctly i have kubuntu-8.04 and i got this: http://pastebin.com/HYFCPYZw
[23:33] <luis_> so no one knows or everybody is bussy?
[23:41] <luis_> help me please
[23:45] <ieroglif> luis_, again - what is proplem?
[23:46] <ieroglif> problem
[23:46] <ieroglif> i connected after quir question
[23:47] <luis_> ok
[23:47] <Space_Man> [23:22] <luis_> hello guys good afternoon to you all i like to ask for your help to install the newest version of wine, i do need it to make work some web page correctly i have kubuntu-8.04 and i got this: http://pastebin.com/HYFCPYZw
[23:47] <luis_> let me refres
[23:47] <luis_> thats the on
[23:48] <luis_> txs SPACEMAN