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vexhiya. Is there an easy way to move a package from one ppa to another (that I control)00:42
vexI uploaded to the wrong one :/00:42
jelmervex: you can copy packages from the "View Packages" page00:46
vexhey cool!00:48
vexlook at that.00:48
vex:D00:48
vexthanks00:48
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mkanatLooks like the loggerhead /view/ changes are out now. Any numbers on performance improvements or load lessening?07:09
spmmkanat: let me see if I can dig something up for you...07:09
mkanatspm: Awesome.07:10
mkanatNot sure when the change got rolled out.07:10
spmprobably last week with the full release07:10
mkanatThat would sound right.07:10
mkanatIt *feels* faster, at the least.07:11
spmhand on heart, can't see anything that looks like a load/cpu lessoning. looks about the same.07:12
mkanatOf course, right now is probably a relatively low-load time.07:12
spmheh07:12
mkanatspm: Okay.07:12
mkanatspm: Do you have any stats on how many threads timeout?07:13
mkanatOr how many threads run for longer than X seconds?07:13
mkanatRun a single request for longer than X seconds, that is.07:13
spmnot that I'm aware of. it may be bruied in the logs; but we're not directly showing that anywhere.07:13
mkanatOkay.07:13
mkanatYeah, I have a log analysis tool that does it, but I need the logs, of course. :-D07:14
mkanatIt's not important now, anyhow.07:14
spmchicken, meet egg. ;-)07:14
mkanatlol.07:14
mkanatOkay, I'll work on oops reduction.07:14
spmoki, always welcome!07:15
mkanatspm: I heard there was some oops frequency analysis going on...are there any results from that yet?07:15
spmerrr. good question. I've heard of it, but don't know much beyond that. lifeless'd be a good starter to ask about that.07:16
mkanatspm: Okay.07:16
mkanatspm: How's stability been?07:32
spmpretty good actually.07:32
* spm pulls up the incident page07:32
spmcouple of fails at the end of December; only one since. the former were mainly memory abuse causing swappage necessitating kill/starts07:33
mkanatspm: Wow, that's pretty great.07:42
spmwe may have to rename, from codebounce to codestable. :'-(07:42
mkanatspm: Hahahahaha. :-D08:07
mkanatspm: What about the one that wasn't a memory problem?08:12
mkanatspm: Was it something like bug 617249?08:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 617249 in Launchpad itself "codebrowse responding to debug requests; 500 erroring on everything else" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61724908:12
geserwgrant: can you please look at the build logs of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ants/1.9+svn532-5/+buildjob/2004367 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clisp/1:2.48-3/+buildjob/2004687. They look like a mix of two different builds.08:34
wgrantgeser: I'm asleep, but that looks pretty serious. I will investigate in a few hours, but please ping me if you see anything else like it.08:44
geserok08:44
mkanatIt looks like the CSS being used by codebrowse is not correct. Is it being cached somewhere?08:56
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mgedminI've linked a branch to fix a packaging bug (http://launchpad.net/bugs/705389), what should I do next?  Wait for someone on the Ubuntu side to notice?  Ask this question in #ubuntu rather than #launchpad?13:10
ari-tczewmgedmin: you have two ways: 1) subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to bug; 2) propose a merge your branch to lucid and set ubuntu-sponsors as reviewer13:12
mgedminthanks13:13
czajkowskibah no mrevell!13:40
wgrantczajkowski: He should be around in an hour or so.13:53
czajkowskiahh damn timezones13:54
czajkowskiforgot he's in Dallas13:54
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czajkowskiwgrant: you in Dallas?13:56
dpmdoes anyone know how I can change the assignee of a bug task? I've assigned one to the wrong team, and I'd like to correct it14:11
czajkowskino - sign beside them ?14:12
dpmnot that I could see :(14:14
dpmah, the little arrow on the far left lets me expand the task and reassign it, cool!14:14
czajkowskidpm: :)14:17
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wgrantczajkowski: I am.14:55
czajkowskiwgrant: any sign of Mat?14:56
wgrantczajkowski: He's on the other side of the room, with his laptop not out yet.14:57
wgrantAlthough that may be changing.14:57
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czajkowskiwgrant: could you throw something at him please and tell him I'm looking for him... Laura is looking for him  will do :) thanks14:57
czajkowskiwont make people say my surname14:57
wgrantIt's not that hard...14:58
czajkowskiI know this14:58
czajkowskiothers seem to argue with me :)14:59
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czajkowskimrevell: boo15:29
mrevellHi czajkowski, in a meeting just now so will be slow to reply.15:29
czajkowskimrevell: np can you look at your email, forwared on mails from loco contacts re issue with locked loco teams15:29
czajkowskiplease15:29
mrevellczajkowski, Will do.15:30
czajkowskimrevell: cheers15:30
mrevell:)15:31
czajkowskiknew that bug was gonna become a pain in the ass15:31
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geserwgrant: there is now a bug for the buildlog issue: bug 70534216:02
ubot5Launchpad bug 705342 in Launchpad itself "buildlog contains a mix of two different builds" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70534216:02
wgrantgeser: Yeah, we are investigating.16:06
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wgrantgeser: It's always that same builder.16:09
wgrantAnd the builds that succeed seem to be fine.16:09
geserwgrant: can you check what happened to the other builds of those intermixed buildlogs?16:10
wgrantgeser: I need the log from the slave, which won't be available for a while.16:12
geserwgrant: I now looked closer on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62494035/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.clisp_1%3A2.48-3_BUILDING.txt.gz and the 2nd build seems to be for libcanberra 0.26-1ubuntu7 (armel; built on 2011-01-19) but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcanberra/0.26-1ubuntu7/+buildjob/2166905 tells it build successfully on 2011-01-12. why did it try it then on that build again?16:20
wgrantgeser: It was probably the libcanberra build from the copy archive.16:20
wgrantIt's building l* at the moment.16:20
geserah16:20
geserwgrant: you are right: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20110114-arm/+buildjob/217042016:24
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micahgmrevell: can I ask you about a possible project name being appropriate or is there a better forum for that?17:33
mrevellmicahg, Yeah, please do.17:35
micahgmrevell: would the name ipfreely be inappropriate on launchpad?17:35
mrevellmicahg, Heh, no I don't think so.17:35
micahgmrevell: ok, thanks17:35
exarkuneven for a project which removes limitations (eg non-mobility of endpoints) from IP communication?17:36
czajkowskimrevell: good meeting17:44
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wolfpackI am working under some HTTP proxy. When i try to branch through bazaar I get this error---"ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection timed out bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. "..Is there any way around to solve this??18:27
jtvspiv: would you know?  ^^18:28
StevenKI seriously doubt a HTTP proxy is causing that problem.18:33
StevenKIs port 22 firewalled?18:33
wolfpackdon't know ....  i am in university18:34
wolfpackso may be they have port 22 firewalled18:35
spivwolfpack: "Connection timed out" is the problem18:40
spivwolfpack: as StevenK says you appear to be firewalled, or something like that.  It's an issue with your network.18:40
wolfpackspiv: ok...so no solution for it ?18:41
spivwolfpack: if you can't use port 22, and you don't need write access to the branch, you can probably work around it by using http:// URLs18:41
spivIf you need write access, then you must be able to connect to bazaar.launchpad.net port 22, there is no other option.18:42
wolfpackbut i will not be able to contribute in devlopment work18:42
wolfpackok18:42
wolfpackspiv: Is this way possible--I download the source for that branch using loggerhead and then work upon it while offline ......After that merge it using some other computer where port 22 is allowed18:47
spivwolfpack: yes18:49
spivEr,18:49
spivBut rather than download the source via loggerhead, just "bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/..."18:49
spivYou can *read* branches via http, and thus make your own local branches from an HTTP source18:50
wolfpackbut I am not able to branch it18:50
spivHave you tried a http://bazaar.launchpad.net/... URL when branching?18:50
mrevellHey czajkowski. Thanks for forwarding me those emails. I've sent a message to the loco-council list, which is awaiting moderation.18:51
wolfpackno18:52
czajkowskimrevell: loco council is me and 5 others18:52
czajkowskimrevell: the thread went on today on loco contacts18:52
czajkowskimrevell: mail approved now18:53
mrevellczajkowski, Yeah, I wanted to email the loco council first. Thanks for approving it.18:53
czajkowskinp18:54
czajkowskimrevell: you can follow the other thread on the contacts list18:54
czajkowskiI did point out I'd gone and poke ye18:54
wolfpackspiv:U were telling about branching using http ....can u please tell me how to do that .19:11
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VarcMBHello19:49
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tsimpsonhello \o19:49
VarcMBAre you :D19:49
VarcMBI am trying to register my PGPKey19:50
tsimpsonhaving any trouble?19:51
VarcMBWell, i don't know how to validate my Key on LaunchPad19:52
tsimpsonso you have already created the key on your system?19:52
VarcMBA personal Key19:53
tsimpsonok, so what steps have you done so far?19:54
VarcMBJust register on LaunchPad create the key and now i am seeying the mail PGP19:56
tsimpsonVarcMB: you need to upload the key to a keyserver, you can use the command "gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com your_key_id" (replacing your_key_id with the ID of your key)19:59
VarcMBIn the terminal right?20:00
tsimpsonyeah20:00
VarcMBis not a valid key ID: omitted20:02
tsimpsonyou need to put your key ID in, you should be able to see it with "gpg --list-keys"20:03
VarcMBpub or sub?20:03
tsimpsonpub20:04
czajkowskipub the answer is always pub20:04
VarcMBGet it but, say the same thing20:05
tsimpsontrue20:05
tsimpsontry with "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys your_key_id", I think gpg is a bit picky about what option comes last20:06
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VarcMBNothing20:08
tsimpsonnothing?20:08
VarcMBI will try with Evolution mail20:08
VarcMBThe problem si the key in the terminal i think20:08
VarcMBthe GPG/PGP Key are the *******/****** Or the most long key?20:15
czajkowskimrevell: ping20:15
tsimpsonVarcMB: the part after the '/'. if it shows "1024D/12345678" then "12345678" is the key ID20:17
VarcMBOhhhh20:17
VarcMBOther error20:18
VarcMBMy mistake, i do it whit the terminal20:19
VarcMBWhat i need now?20:21
tsimpsononce you have uploaded the key, you need to tell launchpad about it20:23
tsimpsonuse "gpg --fingerprint" and look for the line with "Key fingerprint ="20:23
VarcMBI have the key20:24
VarcMBi need send this key from anywhere?20:24
tsimpsonyou need to paste that into https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys20:24
tsimpsonand then click the Import Key button20:24
VarcMBFinish20:25
tsimpsonyou need to check your email now and decrypt the message with your key20:26
mrevellHi there czajkowski20:26
czajkowskiyou are killing me mister :P20:27
VarcMBOk, i have Gamil and Evolution, Evolution is new for me so i will the to decrypt with the terminal20:27
mrevellczajkowski, What do you mean?20:27
czajkowskimrevell: can you check your mail20:27
tsimpsonVarcMB: that's fine, just type "gpg" in the terminal and copy+paste the email in20:27
tsimpsonVarcMB: it should give you a link to follow20:27
VarcMBBut this crypt20:28
ActionParsniphi guys20:31
ActionParsniphi guys, can somebody please review the account of klusumsky RE:20:31
ActionParsniphttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/7637820:31
VarcMBHello, tsimpson i think can help you, please wait for him20:32
tsimpsonVarcMB: you copy the encrypted message into gpg, it should then decrypt the message20:36
VarcMBThe message need have a ' "" '20:38
tsimpsonjust copy and paste directly from gmail should work20:39
tsimpsonafter typing "gpg" and pressing enter20:39
VarcMBi write in the terminal, "pgp MESSAGE (ONLY THE CODES)" and this don't work20:40
tsimpsondid you paste everything from "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" to "-----END PGP MESSAGE-----"?20:42
VarcMBThe BEGIN PGP MESSAGE & AND PGP MESSAGE no20:42
tsimpsonjust copy and paste the entire thing20:44
VarcMBWait, i don't have installed the pgp20:46
VarcMBI will close the programs, i come back in few minutes20:47
mtaylordo the PPA builders not allow out-bound network connections?20:48
bigjoolsmtaylor: no it's verboten20:48
mtaylorwell, that sure does make building doc packages that use sphinx that use intersphinx inventories a little difficult :(20:49
wgrantThey have access to the PPA and primary archives, and that's about it.20:49
VarcI am back20:49
* mtaylor goes off to make a patch for his ppa packaging branches. cries a little20:50
mtayloroh - that's even just for the normal natty builder for the main archive20:50
mtaylorblast.20:50
bigjoolsit's to enforce re-creatable build conditions20:50
VarcWARNING: Can't find the right public key-- can't check signature integrity.  <----- say this20:51
mtaylorsure. makes sense - I'm just not sure what to do about making the generated docs for the -doc package be the same as the published ones. maybe I should just not care20:51
VarcI decrypt it :D but with a program20:54
VarcI can't finish it :(21:14
VarcNevermind i finish it :D21:17
deryckbdmurray, ping21:26
bdmurrayderyck: hey21:26
vanguardhow do I delete a ppa package that did not build?21:27
deryckbdmurray, so the bug reporting guidelines may be fixed now.  How recently did you try this?21:27
bdmurrayderyck: probably the week of the 3rd21:28
deryckbdmurray, can you try again (just changing to anything and set it back if needed)?  assuming it works.21:28
deryckbdmurray, qastaging is available for this test, too.21:28
bdmurrayderyck: *I* can't as we changed the owner of Ubuntu to a team I'm not a member of.  However I seem to recall the same thing happening with the bug filing guidelines for Launchpad when gary tried to change them21:29
bigjoolsvanguard: in the same was as you delete one that did build21:29
bigjoolss/was/way/21:30
bdmurrayderyck: I commented on the bug a bit today21:30
deryckbdmurray, right.  I asked him, too.  Just over-verifying. :-)  Thanks, anyway!21:30
bdmurrayderyck: if you let the bug supervisor set the bug reporting guidelines I'll be happy to verify it. ;-)21:32
deryckbdmurray, I don't follow.  bug supervisor can't set that?  Or you mean, you'll verify the actual text when it's set? :-)21:33
bdmurrayderyck: bug supervisor can only set it for projects (I'm pretty sure) not for distros21:33
deryckbdmurray, I thought you fixed that? :-)21:36
vanguardbigjools: I just uploaded one package, and that single one did not build21:36
bigjoolsvanguard: what do you mean by "did not build" ?21:37
bigjoolsfailed to build?21:37
vanguardyes21:38
vanguardI had an error in the makefile21:38
bigjoolsvanguard: you don't need to delete it, just upload a new version and the old one is superseded automatically21:44
vanguardbut I really haven't changed anything.21:45
vanguardI renamed it from 0.3 to 0.3.1 then21:45
bigjoolsvanguard: let me rephrase then - what is your intended outcome?21:45
vanguardwell, I did not build it with pbuilder before and did not notice that my makefile does not work. lp-build told me that a couple minutes later and I tried to upload a newer package, but it told me that it was alreay there21:46
vanguardso I named it 0.3ubuntu121:46
bigjoolsyou can't re-use the same version21:46
vanguardbut it does not make too much sense because I am upstream, so 0.3-1 would be better21:47
vanguardbut I think lintian did not like that since it is an original package, now I have 0.3.1. But anyway, my ppa get's cluttered I think21:47
bigjoolsno, it's not cluttered21:47
bigjoolsthe old version will be removed21:47
vanguardbecause it failed or because it is superseeded?21:48
bigjoolswhen it's superseded21:49
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vanguardbigjools: you are right, the two old versions are gone now22:06
vanguardthe last one built fine, and I can properly install it through my ppa. awesome!22:07
bigjoolsglad to hear it22:07
bigjoolsI'm right occasionally :)22:07
vanguardwhat about deleted ppas, are they going to disappear at some point or will they always be in gray on my profile page?22:23
kirklandis there any way to tell how many people are using some PPA that I maintain?22:29
kirklandie, i'm about to upload a change to a PPA that I think is only mostly used by me22:29
bigjoolskirkland: yes22:29
kirklandbigjools: cool, how?22:29
* bigjools digs up references22:30
bigjoolskirkland: http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/tracking-ppa-download-statistics22:30
kirklandbigjools: cheers mate22:31
bigjoolskirkland: no worries22:31
VarcHey guys, one ask22:35
VarcWhat mean or how can i know my: IRC Network22:35
vanguardVarc: card.freenode.net (Washington, DC, USA)22:40
vanguardis last.fm down for you too?22:41
VarcWhat happend if i ut it and i am not from USA22:41
vanguardVarc: You mean what happens if you are not from the USA and still on an US-Server?22:42
vanguardWell, that is the internet, does not matter22:42
vanguardit is a distributed chat here, so all servers talk to each other22:42
VarcOk, i wanna join from the Ubuntu bugs squad and i was need know it thanks you very much22:43
vanguardyou can join any channel on any server, IRC does the job afaik22:43
VarcI see, that is cool and the "wiki" I need have  a Wiki is it free or what?22:44
vanguardVarc: A wiki is a type of documentation system, everybody can alter and add text, just like on wikipedia22:46
vanguardVarc: What wiki are you referring to?22:46
VarcOn LaunchPad22:47
VarcIn my profile22:47
vanguardcan you give me the URL?22:48
VarcI can't is in my profile22:48
VarcNo Wiki names registered.22:48
VarcSay Wiki22:48
VarcAnd No Wiki names registered.22:48
Varc"Example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/"22:49
vanguardah22:49
vanguardwell, if you write on a wiki, you can register the name you use22:49
vanguardso that everybody who visits your profile can see what you wrote in the wiki22:49
vanguardyou can leave that blank22:50
VarcBut for a Mentor request this is needed and i don't wrote in any wike22:50
vanguardokay, I guess you would have to register in the ubuntu wiki with some name and enter that name into your profile then22:51
VarcAnd the Ubuntu host right?22:52
vanguardI think so22:52
VarcThanks for your help, you work for Ubuntu or someting like it?22:53
vanguardnot really22:57
VarcJust a Linux lover?22:57
vanguardVarc: I am just a regular launchpad user, linux lover and devel22:57
VarcSoftware design?22:58
vanguarddevel is short for developer22:58
vanguardso, yeah22:58
vanguardalthough I think that most of what I do is not really great in design22:58
vanguardit just works ... somehow :D22:58
VarcCool, in Windows i Design a super small program because i have 16 years old and i don't know a lot about the design but i wanna work in that and without a friend we will work on aMSN for do someting more special22:59

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