[01:14] <Lynx|2> anyone having problems with flash in 11.04 natty?
[01:57] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[01:57] <FloridaGuy> ?
[02:10] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[02:20] <carl0s-> I saw on OMG!Ubuntu that there's supposed to be a fancy search screen that comes up, a bit like what the Gnome 3 website shows for "when you press the activities key". What's keys do I press? Is it meant to be super+9 ?
[02:50] <nit-wit> FloridaGuy, was this a upgrade from maverick?
[03:05] <carl0s-> I saw on OMG!Ubuntu that there's supposed to be a fancy search screen that comes up, a bit like what the Gnome 3 website shows for "when you press the activities key". What's keys do I press? Is it meant to be super+9 ?
[03:23] <FloridaGuy> to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.....i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....
[03:23] <FloridaGuy> so i do i make it finsh the job....??....everything runing good but is there away to get it to finsh
[03:25] <rww> FloridaGuy: it's practically finished, that was the last step. I believe "sudo apt-get autoremove" is a decent approximation of that step, but it's 1) optional, 2) something you should check over with care before confirming.
[03:27] <FloridaGuy> rww: what would i check on option 2
[03:28] <rww> FloridaGuy: that it's not asking to remove packages you want to keep
[03:29] <FloridaGuy> rww: that looks like everything
[03:31] <FloridaGuy> rww: maybe you could help me with this.....after doing all my updates on 10.10...then got nvidia installed....i lost the plymouth screen....all i get is a text boot screen
[03:31] <bjsnider> oh no! a text boot screen!
[03:31] <rww> the nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support plymouth, if I remember correctly. I don't use nvidia, so I have no expertise in the area.
[03:32] <FloridaGuy> never lost it in mandriva
[03:33]  * rww shrugs
[06:12] <QQi> LibreOffice comming to default office right (today)?
[09:00] <rohdef> what version of Mono does Natty run?
[09:04] <rohdef> seems from launchpad it's 2.6 where do I request that it's upgraded to 2.8
[09:06] <rohdef> if we're lucky 2.10 might even be out in time so it can reach Natty, so it would be rather nice to see the packages not being held back for several versions for once
[09:18] <cousin_mario> is Natty going to have optional support for Wayland?
[10:39] <rohdef> did an upgrade to the alpha, seems that my encrypted home folder breaks in Natty
[10:39] <rohdef> is there somthing I can do to fix this?
[10:40] <rohdef> eg mount the folder, recover my files and then go to non-encrypted
[10:42] <rohdef> if I try to ls in my home folder from the recovery console it I get a lot of output from the kernel, I could search through it and I could see anything that hint's what the error is
[10:44] <rohdef> also ctrl+alt+f{1-6} seems to do (nearly) nothing, the login images stays on the screen, but I can't interact with it unless I go back to ctrl+alt+f7
[11:21] <DexterF> hi
[11:21] <DexterF> 11.04 with unity: true?
[11:25] <ccooke> true
[11:25] <ccooke> using it now.
[11:26] <ccooke> ... it's finally approaching usable :-)
[11:55] <smoser> anyone else have firefox stuck in fullscreen with unity now ?
[11:56] <smoser> i can't drag it out of maximized and I don't know of another way in unity
[12:04] <DexterF> will gnome3 be optional?
[12:05] <bazhang> yep
[12:08] <DexterF> good.
[12:18] <boxxy> Does this channel support gnome shell?
[12:20] <smoser> well, my firefox maximized seems fixed after logout and back in (and an upgrade)
[13:07] <Trewas> I somehow thought unity would have some basic functionality by now... is there for example some way to run programs which are not included in the sidebar by default? (other than starting file manager which is there and going with it to /usr/bin)
[13:20] <Ohelig> yeah, I don't like unity. I use the "Classic desktop"
[13:22] <Daekdroom> libreoffice is broken. Oh well. That's what I get for using alpha software.
[13:39] <wrst> Trewas: after you get it running you can right click in the side bar thing keep in dock or something along those lines
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:00] <BluesKaj> openoffice is bring removed in favour of libreoffice , not that I use office suites much , but it's an interesting development nontheless
[15:01] <BluesKaj> hi genii-around :)
[15:01] <genii-around> Hiyas BluesKaj
[15:01]  * genii-around cleans out the coffeepot, makes a fresh batch
[15:02] <genii-around> BluesKaj: The k3b error I was having cleared up (was not detecting drive, etc)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ahh ok , good to know , genii-around
[15:10] <coz_> ah... libre office  is now installed...cool... I dont have to do it manually :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:13] <rork> especially for I've been told libreoffice has development :)
[15:30] <cmagina> yeah, at lpc there was a talk about it and that there was a nice influx of new developers and also that the code was being cleaned up
[15:31] <Volkodav> is xfce 4.8 being worked on ?
[15:33] <Volkodav> was released 4 days
[15:34] <charlie-tca> Volkodav: yes! It is in Xubuntu Natty
[15:34] <Volkodav> do I need a ppa to install on regular ?
[15:35] <charlie-tca> and, it has been in natty since 4.7 was ready
[15:35] <charlie-tca> Are you using xubuntu Natty?
[15:35] <Volkodav> I just checked and I have still 4.7
[15:35] <Volkodav> no ubuntu natty
[15:35] <Volkodav> I just added it later
[15:35] <charlie-tca> It will update as it gets packaged, the same way the rest of it has
[15:36] <charlie-tca> We don't seem to be able to package as fast as Xfce can announce things
[15:36] <Volkodav> so I just have to wait - did they finally fix the weather applet ?
[15:37] <charlie-tca> You know as much as I do. I haven't seen an announcement yet that it is fixed
[15:37] <Volkodav> it has been a pain since ....forever I remember xfce lol
[15:38] <Volkodav> it used to crash the whole panel back in 4.1.
[15:38] <charlie-tca> It hasn't crashed in Lucid, using 4.6.1, in months here
[15:39] <Volkodav> good
[16:37] <genii-around> Is one-time boot option of "profile" to speed subsequent boots worth bothering with now with upstart ?
[16:42] <genii-around> ( or will it still calculate which remaining sysinit scripts can be loaded in parallel ? )
[17:02] <mikebeecham> Good evening - Thought I would ask.  Is Natty ready for daily use as yet, or still at Alpha stage?
[17:03] <yofel> still alpha
[17:03] <yofel> !schedule
[17:05] <dupondje> somebody knows if installer is working fine on 11.04 ?
[17:05] <dupondje> getting new laptop tomorrow ^^
[17:06] <charlie-tca__> it worked yesterday
[17:07] <dupondje> k :) i'll fetch the daily image then :)
[17:07] <charlie-tca__> it works and breaks daily, I think. You really have to try everyday to see if it broke again
[17:11] <dupondje> well yea I leech & burn the latest daily
[17:11] <dupondje> if it fails, I fetch another :)
[17:11] <dupondje> Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 700MB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine.
[17:11] <dupondje> mmm
[17:11] <dupondje> thats crap :)
[17:12] <Volkodav> no reason to jump through the hoops and try to fit everything for a daily build
[17:13] <dupondje> daily of yesterday has correct size .. :)
[17:13] <dupondje> lets fetch that one then
[17:15]  * BluesKaj just runs daily updates
[17:16] <dupondje> yea true. But i need a new install
[17:17] <BluesKaj> dupondje,  can't do-release-upgrade -d ?
[17:18] <dupondje> BluesKaj: new computer ...
[17:18] <dupondje> :)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ahh, virgin linux :)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> dupondje, fancy ?
[17:19] <dupondje> Asus K52JE-EX069V
[17:25] <BluesKaj> dupondje, nice lappy :)
[17:26] <dupondje> nothign special :)
[17:27] <BluesKaj> dupondje, well it's more than I'd spend on a laptop
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok lunch , BBL
[17:56] <smoser> sp o
[17:56] <smoser> i'm running ekiga under unity.  i can't seem to get at the preferences.
[17:57] <smoser> they get grayed out in the top panel
[17:59] <smoser> any ideas ? i basically can't configure it.
[20:32] <Daekdroom> Libreoffice l10 packages are broken, unfortunately.
[20:32] <Daekdroom> They try to replace the splash image that comes with the libreoffice package already, and then apt refuses to install :(
[20:33] <Daekdroom> It should be fixed soon anyway. RC4 is out.
[20:40] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, libreoffice installed ok here as far as I can tell.
[20:40] <cmagina> Daekdroom: same for me
[20:40] <Daekdroom> but did you guys install it along translation packages?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, not sure about translations , unless they're installed by default
[21:04] <Daekdroom> It was installed by default in here because I installed my system in pt-br, and it's precisely that package that is broken. Everything else is fine,.
[21:04] <Daekdroom> However, I find it safe to assume that it affects all translations packages.
[21:28] <mrsun>  #emc
[22:36] <Daekdroom> !info libunity3
[22:53] <charlie-tca> does libreoffice remove openoffice by itself?
[22:53] <Daekdroom> charlie-tca, apparently not
[22:54] <charlie-tca> So, if openoffice is installed, we get both installed now with the updates
[22:54] <Daekdroom> Yes
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[22:54] <rww> I haven't updated in over a week, so I'll go check when these updates are done ;)
[23:00] <rww> charlie-tca: all of the openoffice.org packages I now have installed apart from openoffice.org-style-human are transitional packages
[23:02] <charlie-tca> so, then, it should remove oo.org and install libreoffice without duplicating them
[23:08] <rww> charlie-tca: there's an update to ubuntu-desktop that I can't install because of dependency hell. since that's what's keeping the openoffice.org-* packages installed right now, perhaps the update fixes it
[23:08] <charlie-tca> close enough then
[23:09] <Daekdroom> I find it odd that openoffice.org is being replaced by transitional packages, in theory, it'll continue in development.
[23:10] <rww> I don't. Ubuntu's openoffice.org packages used Go-OO instead anyway; didn't package Sun/Oracle upstream versions.
[23:11] <Daekdroom> Go-OO?
[23:11] <rww> the only thing that's really changed is that the packages are named properly ;)
[23:12] <rww> http://go-oo.org/
[23:12] <rww> (and Go-oo is now merging with LibreOffice)
[23:13] <Daekdroom> Sounds good.
[23:14] <rww> charlie-tca: according to LP, the last update to ubuntu-desktop was two weeks ago and didn't involve OpenOffice.org, so I guess that has yet to be sorted out.
[23:15] <charlie-tca> Daekdroom: Ubuntu heavily modified OpenOffic.org to work with the distribution. They won't have to make the modifications for LibreOffice
[23:27] <rww> heh, looks like I'm back in the land of horribly-broken GUI