[09:46] <ksinkar> is this a valid makefile for an arm project ; http://fpaste.org/6VI8/
[09:52] <persia> There's nothing obviously wrong (in part because make is arch-independent), but the result isn't likely to be compatible with Ubuntu userspace (armv5tel != armv7, etc.)
[09:52] <persia> A native compile may ignore some of the variables, which may result in a working build.  A cross-compile may be different
[10:10] <5EXAB2XYU> for development arm development on ubuntu, which crosscompiler is better
[10:11] <persia> Most folk native compile, and all packages delivered as part of Ubuntu are native-compiled.
[10:11] <elesueur> there is an arm crosscompiler in the ubuntu maverick apt repo
[10:11] <elesueur> it works just fine
[10:12] <persia> There's a cross-compiler in the archive: I suspect you'd want gcc-4.x-arm-linux-gnueabi
[10:17] <ksinkar> currently i am looking at the site of embinux and trying to port android to hawkboard, and i am on ubunut 10.10
[10:17] <ksinkar> they have specified a repo command in their instructions which is not available on my machine
[10:17] <ksinkar> and google search yields a RSS program by the name of repo
[10:17] <ksinkar> does anyone know the meaning of that command
[10:17] <ksinkar> reop
[10:17] <ksinkar> sorry repo
[10:19] <elesueur> https://sites.google.com/a/android.com/opensource/download/using-repo
[11:24] <rsalveti> morning
[11:29] <ogra> yawn
[11:29] <ogra> damned jetlag
[11:29] <hrw> what you guys have with jetlag...
[11:29] <ogra> one would think after three days i'm over it ... but i still sleep until noon, regardless of when i go to bed
[11:30] <hrw> I have alarmclock set to 7:30
[11:30] <ogra> hrw, nothing usually, thanks to melatonin i sleep through the night without probs ...
[11:30] <ogra> i never use alarmclocks
[11:30] <hrw> I have to
[11:30] <ogra> why? you have a child
[11:30] <ogra> :P
[11:30] <hrw> otherwise I will wake too late to take my daughter to kindergarten
[11:30] <hrw> I wake her
[11:30] <ogra> oh
[11:30] <ogra> sounds unusual
[13:46] <robclark> rsalveti, if you have pvr video driver running, try enabling in gconf /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager
[13:47]  * ogra is curious how that will affect unity-2d
[13:47] <ogra> might get us funny results
[13:47] <robclark> seems more or less okish
[13:48] <rsalveti> robclark: what should happen?
[13:48]  * rsalveti firing gconf
[13:48] <robclark> proper transparent terms, window shadows, etc
[13:49] <robclark> it is using xrender to do compositing
[13:49] <robclark> doesn't feel any faster/slower than without but looks nicer
[13:50] <rsalveti> it's working quite the same way as before, but now with proper window shadow
[13:51] <robclark> yup
[13:51] <rsalveti> hm
[13:51] <rsalveti> yup, quite the same
[13:51] <rsalveti> cool
[13:54] <robclark> vstehle, you might also want to try the above
[14:00]  * rsalveti lunch
[14:02] <vstehle> robclark: thanks for the tips :)
[14:04]  * robclark likes eye candy
[14:04] <cpearson> robclark: what is the ARM load when it's running xrender?
[14:06] <robclark> cpearson, not sure, need to wait for update-manager to finish running to get a read..
[14:06] <robclark> but seems not much
[14:06] <robclark> really, I don't think it taxes the sgx much
[15:05] <jo-erlend> NCommander, «We'll be having the usual IRC meeting on #ubuntu-meeting, on
[15:05] <jo-erlend> Thursday 2011-01-06 at 15:00 UTC.»? :)
[15:05] <ogra> its running already
[15:06] <jo-erlend> oh, I didn't even catch the "-meeting" part. I was so focused on the date :)
[15:06] <ogra> heh
[15:37] <rsalveti> jo-erlend: I updated the kernel tree, got an image working but then didn't have more time to test it
[15:38] <jo-erlend> oh, ok. I keep missing the queues on -meeting. Sorry about that. :)
[15:38] <rsalveti> np :-)
[16:00] <ogra> NCommander, sooo
[16:01] <NCommander> ogra: so?
[16:01] <ogra> NCommander, http://paste.ubuntu.com/556197/
[16:01] <ogra> thats what is in the libqtdee branch
[16:01] <ogra> i dont really know what to do about it
[16:02] <ogra> ubuntu2 was never uploaded and ubuntu3 is obviously a boilerplate
[16:02] <NCommander> ogra: I added that as a placeholder for people to add their TODO stuff until the next release
[16:02] <NCommander> as for 0ubuntu2, indeed
[16:02] <NCommander> yeah, that got swept up in sprint week
[16:02] <NCommander> let me deal with tha tnow
[16:02] <ogra> k
[16:02] <ogra> tell me if you are done
[16:02] <ogra> then i'll go ahead with the rest of my branch additions
[16:04] <NCommander> ogra: I need about 30 minutes-1 hour to fix it as I need to do some test builds to make sure that symbols file works
[16:04]  * ogra goes to deal with the cat for a while
[16:04] <NCommander> ogra: what else do you want me to do on unity-2d?
[16:04] <ogra> NCommander, nothing, i have all changes ready here already
[16:05] <ogra> though the issue that GrueMaster is seeing might be related to missing symbols on armel
[16:05] <ogra> you could take a look at that
[16:06] <ogra> 8try to reproduce it on your panda and chack whats happening)
[16:09] <GrueMaster> ogra: We have a shortage of monitors here.  It may be a while before he has one available.
[16:10] <ogra> well, then he can look at your system via ssh ;)
[16:10] <ogra> shouldnt need a monitor to read logs
[16:11] <GrueMaster> I'm pretty sure I can do the same.  Problem I had getting going on it yesterday is that something updated that is driving performance way down.  The systems currently boot with a loadavg of 1.72.
[16:11] <GrueMaster> I finally got unity-2d downloaded and installed at 1am, so not much info available.
[16:12] <ogra> ah, k
[16:12] <ogra> do you have the TI stuff installed ?
[16:13] <ogra> i think it might work better without atm
[16:13] <ogra> not sure
[16:13] <GrueMaster> no I don't.  I don't think there is anything for natty yet.  There wasn't last week.
[16:13] <ogra> there is a maverick ppa with natty versions, but nothing integrated
[16:15] <GrueMaster> I usually don't go searching ppa's for stuff unless specifically asked to test something.  I have enough stuff to test in the standard image.
[16:16] <ogra> i didnt mean to ask you
[16:17] <ogra> but i know that several people run the new stuff
[16:17] <ogra> thus the question
[16:17] <GrueMaster> Just saying how I do my testing.  And for unity-2d, I started with a clean, updated image.
[16:17] <ogra> great
[16:18] <GrueMaster> That's how I always test new stuff.  Less variables.
[16:18] <GrueMaster> (and one of the reasons I ask for multiple systems).
[16:26] <KC9SJQ> howdy ladies and gents
[16:26] <KC9SJQ> A quick question.
[16:26] <KC9SJQ> I'm getting ready for a pandaboard which I'll be running ubuntu on.
[16:27] <KC9SJQ> I wanted to know what is the easiest way to revert the install to a command line only one.
[16:27] <KC9SJQ> I'm thinking something like 'apt-get remove -purge gnome-desktop'
[16:27] <ogra> purge some low level X lib
[16:28] <ogra> or wait for janimo to finish the minimal image ;)
[16:29] <KC9SJQ> I'm afraid if I do so, it'll take everything (as I'm assuming it's all considered automaticlly installed as a dependant of the highest level metapackage)
[16:30] <KC9SJQ> So what should I keep to insure a full functionally command line interface (including apt-get
[16:31] <ogra> if you remove an xorg library that wont touch the cmdline functionallity
[16:32] <KC9SJQ> not even if I do an auto-remove after?
[16:33] <tmzt> ogra: so it's confirmed? no supported unity 2d in natty?
[17:17] <robclark> vstehle, for pvr_video driver, do you apply any patches for ubuntu deb other than the support for v4l2 overlay?
[17:24] <NCommander> lastlog NComman
[17:48] <rsalveti> eeek, trying to run unity-2d-places with qt opengl backend (with gles) and getting lots of x errors
[17:50] <rsalveti> eglCreateWindowSurface calls x_changeproperty inside the x driver, that returns an error, but in the end it doesn't return egl_no_surface
[17:50] <rsalveti> and later on it basically explodes hehe
[17:50] <robclark> rsalveti, is this in your ppa now?
[17:50] <rsalveti> robclark: yup, same one I pointed you on monday
[17:51] <rsalveti> just run with -graphicssystem opengl
[17:51] <robclark> ok, I'll update a bit later and give it a try on this end
[17:51] <rsalveti> will try to check now internally the x-driver to see what's happening
[17:52] <robclark> cool..  but does this really come to the pvr driver?
[17:52] <rsalveti> probably
[17:52] <rsalveti> because the x error is coming from the pvr driver
[17:52] <robclark> oh, really, ok..
[17:52] <rsalveti> after calling eglCreateWindowSurface
[17:52] <robclark> can you paste or mail the Xorg.0.log?
[17:52] <rsalveti> qt creates the window and then calls createwindowsurface
[17:53] <ogra> rsalveti, unity-2d-places doesnt work on natty
[17:53] <ogra> (its not supposed to)
[17:53] <rsalveti> ogra: not natty, maverick
[17:53] <ogra> ah
[17:53] <rsalveti> I'm trying to stress the pvr driver
[17:53] <rsalveti> with qt and etc
[17:53] <ogra> yeah, maverick should be fine
[17:53] <rsalveti> as I'm converting qt to use gles by default
[17:54] <ogra> in natty the backend API changes we're waiting for a new upload and then changes
[17:55] <rsalveti> vstehle: robclark: also, you can try to run the hellogl_es2 demo from qt at /usr/lib/qt4/examples/opengl/hellogl_es2
[17:55] <rsalveti> after installing the qt4-demos
[17:56] <rsalveti> don't remember exactly how it should run, but doesn't seems completely right
[17:57] <rsalveti> hehe, boom
[17:57] <rsalveti> x died
[17:57] <robclark> ok.. yeah, there is a certain amount of explosions atm
[17:58] <rsalveti> and there it goes another reboot
[17:58] <rsalveti> the error I got is the usual mem corruption inside pvr
[18:04] <rsalveti> ~.
[18:04] <rsalveti> wrong terminal
[18:05] <rsalveti> robclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556240/
[18:09]  * robclark looks
[18:10] <rsalveti> something is wrong between qt and pvr
[18:13]  * robclark wonders about: Warning: EGL suggested using X Visual ID 33 (ARGB0888) for EGL config 8 (ARGB8888), but this is incompatable
[18:14] <rsalveti> that could be related, but then qt tries to find a compatible one in the end
[18:14] <rsalveti> later on, trying using xrender
[18:15] <rsalveti> check QEgl::getCompatibleVisualId from qt4-x11-4.7.0/src/gui/egl/qegl_x11.cpp
[19:22] <sveinse> Any of you running pulseaudio on target?