[11:24] <brobostigon> morning all.
[14:39] <brobostigon> afternoonings chippanfat :)
[20:24] <TonyBurn> evening
[20:24] <brobostigon> noswaith dda TonyBurn
[20:25] <TonyBurn> lo
[20:25] <TonyBurn> raid card had a wobbler on the server today and took me off irc :o
[20:25] <brobostigon> :(
[20:26] <brobostigon> not good.
[20:26] <TonyBurn> no, luckily someone was around to hard reset it as i have no kvm
[20:27] <brobostigon> i see.
[20:27] <TonyBurn> pfffft, can i be arsed parsing or looking for a plugin to get my linkedin public cv onto my website
[20:28] <TonyBurn> might have  aquick look to see if theres a wordpress plugin before i bother to think about writing anything
[20:28] <brobostigon> ok.
[20:31] <TonyBurn> so brobostigon, what do you work at?
[20:34] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i am unemployed right now, but iused to do systems and office admin.
[20:35] <brobostigon> and bits of systems design and manegement.
[20:35] <TonyBurn> ahhh k, sorry to hear your unemployed :/
[20:36] <TonyBurn> do you contribute to ubuntu/foss development at all?
[20:37] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: debian and ubuntu user support, help with the manegement of ubuntu-cym,user support within ubuntu-cym, testing and bug exploration of haiku-os, and user support within haiku-os and BeOS.
[20:39] <TonyBurn> nice
[20:40] <brobostigon> some of it is quite challenging, and not really recognised, but some if it, like haiku and beos is second nature.
[20:42] <TonyBurn> i need to get my ass into gear and do a little more
[20:43] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: my mind has been focused on recently, thinking about the design of a linux consultency/system design and sales company.
[20:46] <TonyBurn> yea? as a one man band?
[20:46] <brobostigon> probebly.
[20:47]  * brobostigon is hating the mathematics.
[20:50] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: thats the bit, i will need help with.
[20:51] <TonyBurn> the maths?!
[20:51] <brobostigon> yes, iam awful at it.
[20:53] <TonyBurn> i dont understand how it is such an issue? is it a problem with regards to business accounting?
[20:53] <TonyBurn> or development?
[20:53] <brobostigon> the accounting as well as doing the planning of finanaces.
[20:55] <TonyBurn> if you;re a one man band what overheads are you going to incurr apart from broadband and a laptop?
[20:55] <TonyBurn> everything else is living expenses, ie business as usual
[20:56] <brobostigon> tools,  and materials
[20:57] <brobostigon> most of the tools ihave already.
[20:57] <brobostigon> and then maybe a shop.
[20:58] <TonyBurn> most consultants i know cream at least 600 quid a day and have never needed any overheads such as a shop etc
[20:59] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i am thinking ahead here.
[21:01] <TonyBurn> obviously i dont really know your strategy, business plans, end goals/objectives but if your talking about starting as a one man band i wouldn't burden yourself with overheads that aren't required, i'd address them if they ever are required due to an opportunistic gap in the market
[21:03] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: agreed, i want to start for myself. however i thinking that there might be a market for more consumer product in the future, ad therefore thinking about that,
[21:10] <TonyBurn> dunno what the situation is like locally for you but i'm not soo sure if there will ever be a market there on a local level
[21:11] <brobostigon> well, not striclkly locally, however withhin lets say, oxfordshire, or midlands.
[21:11] <brobostigon> for example.
[21:13] <brobostigon> and there is definatly a market, among certain people within allthe systems linux us used on, for example, tablets, mobilephones, netbooks, etc.
[21:15] <TonyBurn> so your targetting consumer rather then business?
[21:15] <TonyBurn> *you're
[21:15] <brobostigon> ah, business first.
[21:31] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i would like to design a certain type of machine with haiku though, and another ide for something with android.
[21:37] <TonyBurn> thats all hobby stuff though unless you have a serious business plan behind it?
[21:38] <brobostigon> at the moment, yes, all just simple ideas.
[21:38] <TonyBurn> ok, yes hobby stuff can hit it right at times and generate lots of revenue, but unless your haiku machine s offering something unique i cant see what requirements it could be filling
[21:38] <TonyBurn> *is
[21:39] <brobostigon> it will be offerring some VERY unique things,
[21:40] <TonyBurn> that the consumer cant already get on a commercially supported platform?
[21:40] <brobostigon> yes.
[21:40] <TonyBurn> and most importantly, wants
[21:40] <brobostigon> yes.
[21:41] <TonyBurn> so you've got a vision statement of sorts alrady put together?
[21:41] <brobostigon> and doesnt exist already, on any existing platform.
[21:41] <brobostigon> the basics, yes.
[21:41] <TonyBurn> fair enough :)
[21:42] <TonyBurn> p'ah, usiness plans, visions statements etc etc
[21:42] <TonyBurn> feel like i'm back in work!
[21:42] <TonyBurn> rt, i'm gonna have to move, mrs is shouting at me for being on the computer
[21:42] <TonyBurn> laters
[21:43] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: the basis of it, i had when i was was at college, and designed then, and just needed the right hw and sw to exist, to echieve it.
[21:43] <brobostigon> TonyBurn: bye.
[22:19] <brobostigon> nos da,sleep well.