[11:24] morning all. === ethan_ is now known as chippanfat [14:39] afternoonings chippanfat :) [20:24] evening [20:24] noswaith dda TonyBurn [20:25] lo [20:25] raid card had a wobbler on the server today and took me off irc :o [20:25] :( [20:26] not good. [20:26] no, luckily someone was around to hard reset it as i have no kvm [20:27] i see. [20:27] pfffft, can i be arsed parsing or looking for a plugin to get my linkedin public cv onto my website [20:28] might have aquick look to see if theres a wordpress plugin before i bother to think about writing anything [20:28] ok. [20:31] so brobostigon, what do you work at? [20:34] TonyBurn: i am unemployed right now, but iused to do systems and office admin. [20:35] and bits of systems design and manegement. [20:35] ahhh k, sorry to hear your unemployed :/ [20:36] do you contribute to ubuntu/foss development at all? [20:37] TonyBurn: debian and ubuntu user support, help with the manegement of ubuntu-cym,user support within ubuntu-cym, testing and bug exploration of haiku-os, and user support within haiku-os and BeOS. [20:39] nice [20:40] some of it is quite challenging, and not really recognised, but some if it, like haiku and beos is second nature. [20:42] i need to get my ass into gear and do a little more [20:43] TonyBurn: my mind has been focused on recently, thinking about the design of a linux consultency/system design and sales company. [20:46] yea? as a one man band? [20:46] probebly. [20:47] * brobostigon is hating the mathematics. [20:50] TonyBurn: thats the bit, i will need help with. [20:51] the maths?! [20:51] yes, iam awful at it. [20:53] i dont understand how it is such an issue? is it a problem with regards to business accounting? [20:53] or development? [20:53] the accounting as well as doing the planning of finanaces. [20:55] if you;re a one man band what overheads are you going to incurr apart from broadband and a laptop? [20:55] everything else is living expenses, ie business as usual [20:56] tools, and materials [20:57] most of the tools ihave already. [20:57] and then maybe a shop. [20:58] most consultants i know cream at least 600 quid a day and have never needed any overheads such as a shop etc [20:59] TonyBurn: i am thinking ahead here. [21:01] obviously i dont really know your strategy, business plans, end goals/objectives but if your talking about starting as a one man band i wouldn't burden yourself with overheads that aren't required, i'd address them if they ever are required due to an opportunistic gap in the market [21:03] TonyBurn: agreed, i want to start for myself. however i thinking that there might be a market for more consumer product in the future, ad therefore thinking about that, [21:10] dunno what the situation is like locally for you but i'm not soo sure if there will ever be a market there on a local level [21:11] well, not striclkly locally, however withhin lets say, oxfordshire, or midlands. [21:11] for example. [21:13] and there is definatly a market, among certain people within allthe systems linux us used on, for example, tablets, mobilephones, netbooks, etc. [21:15] so your targetting consumer rather then business? [21:15] *you're [21:15] ah, business first. [21:31] TonyBurn: i would like to design a certain type of machine with haiku though, and another ide for something with android. [21:37] thats all hobby stuff though unless you have a serious business plan behind it? [21:38] at the moment, yes, all just simple ideas. [21:38] ok, yes hobby stuff can hit it right at times and generate lots of revenue, but unless your haiku machine s offering something unique i cant see what requirements it could be filling [21:38] *is [21:39] it will be offerring some VERY unique things, [21:40] that the consumer cant already get on a commercially supported platform? [21:40] yes. [21:40] and most importantly, wants [21:40] yes. [21:41] so you've got a vision statement of sorts alrady put together? [21:41] and doesnt exist already, on any existing platform. [21:41] the basics, yes. [21:41] fair enough :) [21:42] p'ah, usiness plans, visions statements etc etc [21:42] feel like i'm back in work! [21:42] rt, i'm gonna have to move, mrs is shouting at me for being on the computer [21:42] laters [21:43] TonyBurn: the basis of it, i had when i was was at college, and designed then, and just needed the right hw and sw to exist, to echieve it. [21:43] TonyBurn: bye. [22:19] nos da,sleep well.