| tumbleweed | bdrung: I'm keen to, I don't see what it adds, and it saves me a bunch of work :) | 00:00 |
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| Laney | people probably use it | 00:00 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: may i ask you to send a mail to the mailing list and ask if someone wants to keep it? | 00:00 |
| Laney | you should deprecate it for a release or so first I guess | 00:00 |
| micahg | kamal: BTW, there should be a trash can on the top right of the merge proposal to delete it | 00:01 |
| tumbleweed | is it compatible enough that we can ship a wrapper around pbuilder-dist that emits the deprecation warning? | 00:01 |
| tumbleweed | that's probably more pain than it's worth, though | 00:02 |
| kamal | micahg: yes, just a shame that deleting it also trashes the comments. thanks. | 00:03 |
| micahg | kamal: you should have copies in your e-mail ;) | 00:04 |
| kamal | micahg: oh, no shortage of LP email in my box! ;-) | 00:05 |
| bdrung | kamal: there used to be "rejected" | 00:05 |
| micahg | kamal: I actual filter based on type of LP e-mail, that might be helpful | 00:05 |
| kamal | micahg: I do also | 00:06 |
| kamal | bdrung: I'd like something like "abandoned"... anyway. congrats on becoming DD! | 00:07 |
| bdrung | kamal: thanks | 00:07 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: have you got time? | 00:09 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: no. it's bed time. http://paste.ubuntu.com/555614/ is a bug in python-debian. please file it and subscribe me. | 00:10 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: file against python-debian? | 00:10 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes | 00:10 |
| bdrung | (otherwise there would be no need to subscribe me) | 00:11 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: around? | 00:24 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: yep | 00:27 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: could you review again https://code.launchpad.net/~udienz/ubuntu/lucid/nginx/nginx.fix691871/+merge/44235 ? | 00:28 |
| ari-tczew | he has uploaded new revision | 00:28 |
| ari-tczew | however, on quick look I see issues | 00:28 |
| ari-tczew | like debian-changes-xxxx | 00:28 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: not in natty yet | 00:29 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: where did he grab patches from? | 00:29 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: they all have dep-3 headers | 00:30 |
| micahg | except the last one | 00:30 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: still no test cases either | 00:32 |
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| Rcart | Does it matters if i have a Name SecondName (nickname) <accout@isp.com> in my pgp at uploading files to LP or Debian? It's wrong to include my nick? | 01:36 |
| ari-tczew | Rcart: It's OK. | 01:53 |
| Rcart | ari-tczew: Thanks (; | 01:54 |
| ari-tczew | Rcart: You're welcome. | 01:54 |
| Rcart | ari-tczew: debcommit Depends on cvs? When i run debcommit, returns this: Can't exec "cvs": Not exist such a file nor a dir at /usr/bin/debcommit line 722. | 02:07 |
| ari-tczew | Rcart: debcommit is a part of binary package devscripts. | 02:10 |
| ari-tczew | It doesn't depends on cvs. | 02:11 |
| Rcart | ari-tczew: what could be wrong when i try to run it? | 02:15 |
| ari-tczew | Rcart: did you try to install cvs then? | 02:16 |
| Rcart | ari-tczew: this is really rare, i've installed cvs and after run debcommit and is asking for a login passoword to an unknow host: theshadow@cvs.degreez.net's password: | 02:22 |
| Rcart | password* | 02:23 |
| ari-tczew | Rcart: sorry, I'm not familiar with debcommit | 02:23 |
| Rcart | ari-tczew: Thanks again. I'll google it a little more. | 02:28 |
| achiang | Rcart: does your package use cvs? | 02:31 |
| achiang | Rcart: looks like debcommit can speak to multiple SCMs, so i bet it found a .cvs in your working directory and is trying to do something with it | 02:32 |
| Rcart | achiang: No, it uses bazaar | 02:32 |
| jmarsden | Rcart: Are you 100% sure there is no .cvs directory being seen by debcommit? | 02:33 |
| Rcart | jmarsden: look the ls -la output: http://pastebin.com/0Wepnxua | 02:34 |
| Rcart | there's a CVS and a .bzr dir | 02:35 |
| jmarsden | CVS will trigger it. | 02:35 |
| jmarsden | You can see what it checks for in the getprog function within debcommit. | 02:36 |
| jmarsden | remove the CVS directory and I think all will be well. | 02:36 |
| Rcart | jmarsden: i'm looking in debcommit and firts checks for the CVS dir and then the .bzr dir (among others) | 02:39 |
| jmarsden | Right, so kill the CVS and it will see the .bzr and do what you want. Right? | 02:40 |
| jmarsden | Rcart: Or, if you prefer, swap the order of the tests around in debcommit so it picks .bzr even if CVS exists :) | 02:40 |
| Rcart | jmarsden: Nice tip, but with the last, the package will be with the same problem at other times, right? | 02:42 |
| jmarsden | Correct. The real question is how or why a package would ever have both CVS and .bzr at the same time, it makes no sense to me. | 02:43 |
| jmarsden | Maybe they used to use CVS, migrated to bzr and forgot to remove the old cvs-relatred dirs from their source tree? | 02:43 |
| Rcart | surely, they also seems to forgot update the debian/patches dir after upgrading from dpatch to quilt | 02:45 |
| Rcart | I've a lintian warning: out-of-date-standards-version 3.8.4 (current is 3.9.1). Should i update the Standards version field to the 3.9.1 ? | 03:43 |
| paultag | Rcart: if your package is 3.9.1 standard, yeah :) | 03:44 |
| paultag | Rcart: in most cases this is done without issue | 03:44 |
| jmarsden | Rcart: Officially you need to read through the change list from the current debian-policy package back to 3.8.4 and ensure you don't need to update stuff to meet 3.9.1 | 03:46 |
| jmarsden | Rcart: See /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz # assuming you have debian-policy installed :) | 03:47 |
| Rcart | Ok. I'll leave it in 3.8.4 and let someone else who has read the Debian Policy updates to change that field :) | 03:49 |
| jmarsden | Rcart: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/upgrading-checklist.txt # is may well be more current than the local one you have. | 03:49 |
| paultag | Rcart: no, you should upgrade | 03:49 |
| paultag | Rcart: but you need to be sure that you're 3.9.1. standard :) | 03:50 |
| paultag | Rcart: there's no reason to keep it that old :) | 03:50 |
| Rcart | Ok. Reading the debian policy updates :) | 03:50 |
| Rcart | Looks like no changes for this package. The control file (most relevant) seems to fit the standards. I hope not to be wrong (: | 04:21 |
| MTecknology | !info pbuilder-dist | 05:22 |
| ubottu | Package pbuilder-dist does not exist in maverick | 05:22 |
| MTecknology | !info ubuntu-dev-tools | 05:23 |
| ubottu | ubuntu-dev-tools (source: ubuntu-dev-tools): useful tools for Ubuntu developers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.104 (maverick), package size 140 kB, installed size 672 kB | 05:23 |
| Rcart | good nights. Thanks for your helo (: | 05:43 |
| Rcart | help* | 05:43 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:07 |
| geser | good morning dholbach | 08:25 |
| dholbach | hi geser | 08:26 |
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| mok0 | Which of wget, curl is on a system by default? | 11:14 |
| Bachstelze | mok0: wget | 11:21 |
| mok0 | Bachstelze: thanks | 11:21 |
| mok0 | I'd prefer curl, but then... | 11:22 |
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| ari-tczew | udienz: ping | 12:13 |
| udienz | ari-tczew, pong | 12:13 |
| ari-tczew | udienz: do you consider learn to merges? | 12:14 |
| udienz | ari-tczew: yup | 12:14 |
| ari-tczew | udienz: would be nice to sponsor some merges from you | 12:15 |
| udienz | ari-tczew, Great! thanks i will looking for merging | 12:17 |
| ari-tczew | udienz: I suggest to take trivial merges at the start, not important packages like bash. | 12:18 |
| ari-tczew | udienz: I can give you some examples which are trivial merges if you want. | 12:19 |
| * ari-tczew breakfast, brb. | 12:19 | |
| mok0 | Hm, debian-policy manuals description of maintainer scripts is really hard to deconvolute | 12:30 |
| mok0 | I haven't written a maintainer script in a while, and it's pzzzzt gone from my brain :-( | 12:31 |
| mok0 | Ah, cool: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/MaintainerScripts.html | 12:32 |
| mok0 | Just what I need. Thanks for letting me talk to myself :-) | 12:32 |
| Laney | mok0: http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts is good | 12:32 |
| mok0 | Laney, indeed! Thanks | 12:32 |
| soc1 | does anyone know how to get in contact with the OpenJDK packagers? (no, #ubuntu-java doesn't work, it is basically empty) | 13:10 |
| soc1 | the packages there are uninstallable since months | 13:11 |
| mok0 | soc1: file a bug against it | 13:12 |
| soc1 | mok0: it seems that both "bugs" and "answers" are disabled on launchpad and are not used | 13:13 |
| soc1 | https://launchpad.net/~openjdk/+archive/ppa | 13:14 |
| Laney | PPAs don't have bug tracking | 13:14 |
| Laney | you need to contact the owner of the PPA | 13:14 |
| soc1 | i can't find any way to file a bug against the PPA or even the project | 13:14 |
| Laney | don't know, but I'm afraid we can't help you with that here | 13:15 |
| Laney | I suggest you contact the uploader privately | 13:15 |
| mok0 | soc1: use reportbug to report the bug to Debian | 13:16 |
| Laney | why do you think it applies to Debian? | 13:16 |
| paultag | yeah, it's a PPA soc1 | 13:16 |
| mok0 | Ah | 13:16 |
| paultag | soc1: that can't even build debian packages ( without retargeting it ) | 13:16 |
| mok0 | soc1: try to ping doko, then, it seems he is the uploader | 13:18 |
| mok0 | Uh gotta go, bye | 13:20 |
| soc1 | ok, thnkas | 13:20 |
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| kklimonda | tumbleweed: do you think I can steal https://code.launchpad.net/~menesis/ubuntu/natty/hamster-applet/natty/+merge/45233? | 15:13 |
| kklimonda | (steal from the person proposing a merge, not from you ;)) | 15:13 |
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| kklimonda | oh, wait - menesis is here :) | 15:13 |
| kklimonda | menesis: are you going to work on hamster-applet update for natty? | 15:13 |
| menesis | kklimonda: hi :) | 15:13 |
| kklimonda | hey :) | 15:14 |
| menesis | you uploaded the last version, right? | 15:14 |
| kklimonda | menesis: yes | 15:14 |
| kklimonda | well, previous one - the last one was uploaded by Chris | 15:14 |
| menesis | please, take it if you want | 15:15 |
| menesis | I haven't merged Debian changes | 15:15 |
| tumbleweed | kklimonda: glad someone's looking at it, it's been in the queue for way too long | 15:16 |
| kklimonda | menesis: tumbleweed: ok, I'll take it then | 15:16 |
| menesis | you will merge the debian changes? | 15:19 |
| kklimonda | menesis: yes | 15:25 |
| kklimonda | (I've also subscribed to hamster-applet bugs on Debian so I won't miss it anymore) | 15:25 |
| menesis | good, then I leave it to you. thanks in advance | 15:26 |
| aboudreault | hi, in a control file, how can I use inheritance for description field? to avoid duplicate text | 15:49 |
| geser | it's not possible (at least not directly) | 15:56 |
| aboudreault | well, lintian is talking about it in its report | 15:57 |
| Legendario | does anyone have a clue on this error? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UMzwRXyx | 16:13 |
| udienz | Legendario, you should put orig.tar.gz in ../ | 16:16 |
| Legendario | udienz, the upstream package is zip | 16:22 |
| Legendario | udienz, i've created one. but i don't believe the problem is that. I'm still having an error | 16:27 |
| udienz | Legendario, what the name of your orig.tar.gz? | 16:28 |
| Legendario | udienz, sigil-0.3.2.orig.tar.gz | 16:32 |
| tumbleweed | Legendario: change - to _ | 16:32 |
| udienz | Legendario, change it to sigil_0.3.2.orig.tar.gz | 16:32 |
| Legendario | udienz, it seems to work... thanks :-) | 16:51 |
| udienz | Legendario, and thanks to tumbleweed too :) | 16:52 |
| JackyAlcine | Guys, how would I go about making a patch for Pidgin? | 16:53 |
| JackyAlcine | I considered downloading the branch, but it has over 20,000 revisions. | 16:54 |
| udienz | JackyAlcine, use this $ pull-lp-source pidgin | 16:59 |
| kklimonda | JackyAlcine: lp:ubuntu/pidgin branch? | 16:59 |
| JackyAlcine | Well, I already did "bzr branch lp:pidgin" and got the branch. | 17:00 |
| JackyAlcine | But where would I upload my code? | 17:01 |
| kklimonda | JackyAlcine: what are you trying to patch? pidgin or the package in ubuntu? | 17:01 |
| JackyAlcine | Pidgin. | 17:01 |
| JackyAlcine | Not the package. | 17:01 |
| Laney | where can I get the source of the ubuntuwire rcbugs page? | 17:02 |
| kklimonda | JackyAlcine: you should forward all patches to the pidgin developers then | 17:03 |
| JackyAlcine | Hm. Alright, then. | 17:03 |
| Laney | wgrant: ^^^^ | 17:03 |
| Laney | I could actually probably recreate it with UDD, thinking about it. | 17:05 |
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| geser | Laney: ajmitch should have the code | 17:21 |
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| Legendario | what about this one? | 17:42 |
| Legendario | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/A0PCQcdY | 17:42 |
| Rcart | Hello. I'm working in this bug #420387 | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420387 in bittornado (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420387 | 17:47 |
| Rcart | I've uploaded a branch with some fixes, in the my branch i've removed the CVS dectory that was refusing to use bzr to upload the changes (there was an CVS directoy, and a .bzr directoy) | 17:48 |
| Rcart | So, scott's comment says that the CVS diresctory should stay in the branch. What do you think? | 17:50 |
| Legendario | it's some problem with pbuilder-satisfydepends | 17:51 |
| geser | Legendario: for which Ubuntu release is this pbuilder? | 17:59 |
| geser | Legendario: do you have "universe" enabled in your pbuilder? libqt4-webkit is the only of your build-depends in universe | 18:01 |
| geser | as libqt4-webkit is a transitional package you could also replace it with "libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.0~)" which is in main | 18:02 |
| Kmos | Laney: check collab-qa for udd scripts, there is a rcbugs for debian -> ubuntu, it could be adapted easily. | 18:03 |
| micahg | bdrung: ping | 18:05 |
| Legendario | geser, it's for natty | 18:05 |
| RainCT | bug #705526 o.O | 18:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 705526 in gbrainy (Ubuntu) "No bug with the software. My language is more colourful, than you thought. The gbrainy's hungarian is kinda good, as my english... so... i have to re-learn my own language, if I'd like better results with this game. :)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705526 | 18:09 |
| Legendario | geser, gonna try that | 18:11 |
| iulian | RainCT: Haha. Probably a bad translator? | 18:12 |
| MTecknology | adding a -common package isn't very exciting | 18:17 |
| iamfuzz | MTecknology, lol, indeed | 18:22 |
| bcurtiswx_ | what does "src/Makefile.am: object `empathy-accounts-dialog.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without" mean ? | 18:28 |
| bcurtiswx_ | is there an easy fix for it? | 18:28 |
| MTecknology | iamfuzz: wanna test what I did and finish it off for me? :D | 18:37 |
| vanguard | I build a source package, but after "debuild", I have a package that only contains the changelog and stuff, but not my actual .jar file. How do I add it? | 18:46 |
| MTecknology | building, building, rebuilding, rebuilding, rebuilding, testing, building, rebuilding, retesting, oh what a day when you know not what you're doing..... | 19:10 |
| vanguard | I built a source package, but after "debuild", I have a package that only contains the changelog and stuff, but not my actual .jar file. How do I add it? | 19:11 |
| ari-tczew | vanguard: do you creating new package or working on existing package? | 19:11 |
| vanguard | I am upstream, so I would like to create a new package | 19:12 |
| vanguard | I created the debian dir with the dh tools, and wrote stuff into the files | 19:15 |
| vanguard | I guess the problem is that the makefile generates the .jar into the ../ directory. But I do not really know how I will get it into the .deb | 19:15 |
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| nonix4 | ari-tczew: yup, natty's w3m would be fine for me if getting that to Lucid & Maverick is feasible. The way bug 683337 is worded, it only asked for backport of that 020_button.patch though. (btw w3m 0.5.3 exists upstream as well) | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 683337 in w3m (Ubuntu Lucid) "Backport button element support to Lucid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683337 | 19:17 |
| vanguard | ari-tczew: are you still there? | 19:18 |
| ari-tczew | vanguard: yes I am here. I'm not familiar with java packages, sorry. | 19:21 |
| directhex | vanguard, try a debian/install file, which is of the format "thing/to/install /destination/on/disk" | 19:22 |
| vanguard | with a \t in between? | 19:22 |
| directhex | yeah. but that's hard to add in an irc client. | 19:23 |
| vanguard | directhex: boom, now it is not liek 10K but 164K, sounds good. | 19:26 |
| directhex | vanguard, check contents with "dpkg -c". check dependencies with "dpkg -I" | 19:26 |
| vanguard | directhex: I wrote that I want to install my .jar file to /pu.jar, but in the dpkg -c it is listed as "./pu.jar/" --- normal? | 19:27 |
| directhex | vanguard, yes, but most people don't want jar files in /, they want them in... i dunno, is it /usr/lib/java? | 19:28 |
| directhex | /usr/share/java | 19:28 |
| vanguard | so maybe /usr/share/java/myGameName/game.jar ? | 19:29 |
| directhex | you'd need to ask the debian java folks. i honestly don't know | 19:29 |
| paultag | vanguard: there's a whole policy manual on java files | 19:29 |
| paultag | vanguard: do you need this? | 19:30 |
| directhex | i mean, there are a few existing java games, so check those? freecol for example | 19:30 |
| paultag | it has all the standards and such | 19:30 |
| paultag | it's in the DDP IIRC | 19:30 |
| vanguard | paultag: If you have it at hand, I would happily read it | 19:30 |
| paultag | vanguard: moment | 19:30 |
| paultag | vanguard: http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Packaging | 19:31 |
| paultag | vanguard: ah, here's the best copy -- http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ | 19:32 |
| MTecknology | zul: howdy | 19:33 |
| paultag | vanguard: see 2.2, and Debian Policy 9.1 | 19:33 |
| vanguard | paultag: I'll check it out | 19:34 |
| paultag | vanguard: good luck! | 19:34 |
| MTecknology | paultag: time to help me now that you're done helping him :D | 19:34 |
| paultag | MTecknology: howdy, friend | 19:34 |
| MTecknology | paultag: howdy, how ya been? | 19:34 |
| paultag | MTecknology: well, thanks for asking | 19:35 |
| paultag | MTecknology: and youself? | 19:35 |
| paultag | yourself, shucks. Can't type today. Long morning | 19:35 |
| paultag | Oh jeez, it's 2:30 PM | 19:35 |
| MTecknology | i'm doing well except for the lack of job and ruptured disk | 19:36 |
| paultag | ouch, and oucher | 19:36 |
| Legendario | I need a help on this: the package doesn't use the usual, .configure, make, makeinstall. Instead it brings an installer. how should i set the cdbs for that? | 19:37 |
| MTecknology | trying to get an nginx-common package | 19:37 |
| paultag | Legendario: is it nonfree? | 19:37 |
| paultag | MTecknology: I don't know much about multi-binary. Ask me in a few days, I need to split up a package of mine in Debian into a few parts. Someone else might be able to help you better then me | 19:37 |
| paultag | MTecknology: unless it's theory. I understand that OK | 19:38 |
| Legendario | paultag, no... it's gpl3. but the source code comes with a installer script | 19:41 |
| paultag | Legendario: does it support DESTDIR or some other way of having it barf files in a directory other then /, without prefixing scripts and such with the fullpath? | 19:42 |
| Legendario | paultag, I'm just starting to deal with cdbs documentation... kind os lost | 19:43 |
| paultag | Legendario: forget about CDBS for now ;) | 19:43 |
| vanguard | Legendario: welcome in the club :D | 19:43 |
| paultag | Legendario: can you use something like DESTDIR? | 19:43 |
| paultag | Legendario: if you can, you can do it, if you can't you will have to patch it, most likely. | 19:43 |
| vanguard | I got a question about lintian: What does debhelper-but-no-misc-depends mean? | 19:43 |
| paultag | vanguard: use the -I flag | 19:44 |
| paultag | vanguard: it means you forgot a bit in your control file | 19:44 |
| paultag | vanguard: you should try using lintian with -IiE --pedantic, that's how I use it :) | 19:44 |
| vanguard | I read that lintian is mean, but that it even complains about the vim .swp files ... wow :D | 19:45 |
| paultag | vanguard: those are extra space and junk :) | 19:46 |
| paultag | vanguard: you don't need them, they're bad to have, they just waste space | 19:46 |
| paultag | :) | 19:46 |
| vanguard | paultag: I realize that, I just a vim window open editing the copyright file since it was bitching about that as well :D | 19:46 |
| paultag | hahaha, yeah | 19:47 |
| paultag | I've done that before | 19:47 |
| vanguard | and I set the install path to /opt to be out of the way of everyone, but that does not seem to be okay. But /opt is for stuff that does not come in a package like UrbanTerror or Maple, right? | 19:47 |
| paultag | vanguard: opt is not the right place :) | 19:48 |
| vanguard | paultag: what is the right place for opt? | 19:48 |
| paultag | vanguard: it's OK when you're installing by hand, from someone | 19:48 |
| vanguard | okay, then it is clear | 19:48 |
| paultag | vanguard: optional software under certen conditions and blah blah. | 19:48 |
| paultag | vanguard: it's in the FHS, there's a format too, /opt/company/project or something like that | 19:48 |
| paultag | it's also a pain to set up a way to put it in your path, because you have to go into /opt/*/*/bin/* | 19:49 |
| paultag | unless you similink | 19:49 |
| MTecknology | paultag: I split nginx into nginx-{full,light,extras} and now I need to move a lot of that stuff into nginx-common to fix some of the issues that came up from the split. :( | 19:49 |
| paultag | MTecknology: sweet :) | 19:49 |
| MTecknology | paultag: ya, but fixing the bugs and getting the nginx-common is a pain in the butt | 19:50 |
| paultag | vanguard: and since debs are getting installed by superuser by the software vender of the OS, I think they have to be installed into a "bigboy" place, so not /usr/local or anything like that | 19:50 |
| paultag | MTecknology: yeah for sure | 19:50 |
| paultag | but I'm not sure about that, I could be wrong | 19:50 |
| MTecknology | bigboy place? | 19:51 |
| paultag | Heck, I'm not even MOTU. | 19:51 |
| paultag | MTecknology: /usr/bin and not /usr/local/bin | 19:51 |
| vanguard | paultag: I think that I should put my .jar into /usr/share/java/ and put a simple shellscript into /usr/bin? | 19:51 |
| paultag | MTecknology: local is for locally compiled or created software IIRC | 19:51 |
| paultag | vanguard: that sounds much more sane | 19:51 |
| paultag | vanguard: :) | 19:51 |
| vanguard | paultag: let me check out what lintian says about that. It is like an epic battle with a dragon or so :D | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | paultag: it's the term that made me laught | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | laugh* | 19:52 |
| paultag | vanguard: FTI -- http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-3.12.html | 19:52 |
| paultag | MTecknology: hahaha, glad to get a chortle :) | 19:52 |
| paultag | vanguard: for sure :) | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | paultag: oh.. when i automated server setups.. part of the script did rmdir /usr/local/sbin && bzr branch [...] /usr/local/sbin | 19:57 |
| paultag | MTecknology: wait, what?! | 19:57 |
| paultag | MTecknology: why? That's really not smart | 19:57 |
| MTecknology | why's that? | 19:58 |
| paultag | MTecknology: 1) if they're similinks, you've missed the reason to have sbin. If they're binaries, you're a) storing a binary in VCS, so wasting space, and b) klobbering the package manager | 19:58 |
| paultag | If they're binaries was 2) | 19:59 |
| paultag | MTecknology: is if a package changes it's .so set, you can have another abi | 19:59 |
| MTecknology | they were scripts | 19:59 |
| paultag | MTecknology: ... so?! | 19:59 |
| paultag | MTecknology: just make a meta-package | 19:59 |
| paultag | MTecknology: there's no reason to use bzr for that | 20:00 |
| MTecknology | they were frequently changing; mostly just backup scripts and maintenance junk | 20:00 |
| MTecknology | I'm sure I could have picked a better directory; but the point was that it was /usr/local/ | 20:01 |
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| paultag | MTecknology: still dude, metapackages at the least | 20:02 |
| paultag | MTecknology: it hurts my soul | 20:02 |
| MTecknology | metapackage for scripts? | 20:02 |
| MTecknology | for very frequently changing scripts* | 20:02 |
| paultag | MTecknology: package up the scripts, and make a mtecknology-server metapackage or something | 20:02 |
| paultag | MTecknology: yes, just publish to a local repo | 20:02 |
| paultag | MTecknology: then you can just update && upgrade the boxes | 20:02 |
| paultag | MTecknology: it's wicked easy to make them native, even | 20:03 |
| paultag | </rant> | 20:03 |
| MTecknology | :P | 20:04 |
| paultag | BBL, heading home :) | 20:05 |
| vanguard | lintians says debhelper-but-no-misc-depends | 20:05 |
| vanguard | but debuild tells me dpkg-source: Warnung: kann Abhängigkeit ${misc:Depends} nicht auswerten (cannot compile) | 20:05 |
| vanguard | what do I do now? | 20:05 |
| vanguard | at least the fatal error is at line 1337 ... | 20:05 |
| MTecknology | vanguard: GR! | 20:06 |
| vanguard | I don't understand | 20:06 |
| MTecknology | vanguard: sorry, not sure why I added your nick there, was supposed to be just an expression of irritation to the channel | 20:07 |
| MTecknology | I want to install a man page.. nginx.1; I want it to be part of the nginx-common package only; how do I make that happen? | 20:09 |
| vanguard | launchpad has accepted my tinkered package | 20:15 |
| * vanguard treats himself with a yogurth now :D | 20:15 | |
| wgrant | Start the DAy | 20:17 |
| wgrant | Gah. | 20:17 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: hello wgrant. Did you adjust UDD FTBFS script? | 20:18 |
| wgrant | ari-tczew: I don't touch UDD. | 20:18 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: why? last time when I asked you, you said that it's possible | 20:22 |
| wgrant | ari-tczew: What's the URL? | 20:23 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: of FTBFS script? | 20:24 |
| vanguard | how do I add an icon to a package? | 20:24 |
| wgrant | I run several FTBFS scripts. | 20:24 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | 20:24 |
| ari-tczew | vanguard: check for source any package, e.g. gwget | 20:26 |
| wgrant | ari-tczew: That's probably run by lucas. | 20:26 |
| vanguard | ari-tczew: right, I have to learn what OSS really means ... :D | 20:27 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: yes, but sometimes. I guess you have access to server, where you could that script often. | 20:27 |
| wgrant | No, that's a Debian server. I'm not a DD. | 20:28 |
| ari-tczew | wgrant: are you Canonical employee? | 20:30 |
| wgrant | ari-tczew: Yes. | 20:40 |
| soren | wgrant: orly? Since when? | 20:43 |
| wgrant | soren: Mid-December. | 20:44 |
| soren | wgrant: Cool. Congrats! | 20:44 |
| maco | 'grats | 20:44 |
| wgrant | Thanks! | 20:44 |
| wgrant | Currently in Dallas at the LP sprint. | 20:45 |
| geser | ah, that explains your unusual time when you're on IRC | 20:46 |
| StevenK | geser: This is wgrant. More unusual, since unusual times on IRC is usual for him. | 20:48 |
| wgrant | That may change with the reorg, though, given that my team is now western US. | 20:49 |
| geser | but you still live in Australia or did you move? | 20:49 |
| wgrant | Still in .au. | 20:49 |
| ari-tczew | nonix4: w3m from natty builds cleanly on maverick. on lucid doesn't, unfortunately. | 21:01 |
| scott-work | i've been told qdvdauthor was removed from the repository for natty, does anyone know why? | 21:37 |
| micahg | scott-work: obsolete is the reason given: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qdvdauthor/+changelog | 21:38 |
| scott-work | hmmm, curious...thanks micahg | 21:39 |
| ari-tczew | DktrKranz: shall we remove root-system from Ubuntu, as well? | 22:58 |
| DktrKranz | ari-tczew: it will be anyway as soon as archive-admins schedule removals from Debian, unless there's a valid reason to keep it around. I don't know what the package is about to judge, though. I just performed actual removal. | 23:01 |
| DktrKranz | but I'd say go for its removal | 23:01 |
| ari-tczew | DktrKranz: OK thank you for feedback. ; )) | 23:03 |
| DktrKranz | np :) | 23:04 |
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