[00:00] bdrung: I'm keen to, I don't see what it adds, and it saves me a bunch of work :) [00:00] people probably use it [00:00] tumbleweed: may i ask you to send a mail to the mailing list and ask if someone wants to keep it? [00:00] you should deprecate it for a release or so first I guess [00:01] kamal: BTW, there should be a trash can on the top right of the merge proposal to delete it [00:01] is it compatible enough that we can ship a wrapper around pbuilder-dist that emits the deprecation warning? [00:02] that's probably more pain than it's worth, though [00:03] micahg: yes, just a shame that deleting it also trashes the comments. thanks. [00:04] kamal: you should have copies in your e-mail ;) [00:05] micahg: oh, no shortage of LP email in my box! ;-) [00:05] kamal: there used to be "rejected" [00:05] kamal: I actual filter based on type of LP e-mail, that might be helpful [00:06] micahg: I do also [00:07] bdrung: I'd like something like "abandoned"... anyway. congrats on becoming DD! [00:07] kamal: thanks [00:09] bdrung: have you got time? [00:10] ari-tczew: no. it's bed time. http://paste.ubuntu.com/555614/ is a bug in python-debian. please file it and subscribe me. [00:10] bdrung: file against python-debian? [00:10] ari-tczew: yes [00:11] (otherwise there would be no need to subscribe me) [00:24] micahg: around? [00:27] ari-tczew: yep [00:28] micahg: could you review again https://code.launchpad.net/~udienz/ubuntu/lucid/nginx/nginx.fix691871/+merge/44235 ? [00:28] he has uploaded new revision [00:28] however, on quick look I see issues [00:28] like debian-changes-xxxx [00:29] ari-tczew: not in natty yet [00:29] micahg: where did he grab patches from? [00:30] ari-tczew: they all have dep-3 headers [00:30] except the last one [00:32] ari-tczew: still no test cases either === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger === siloxid` is now known as siloxid [01:36] Does it matters if i have a Name SecondName (nickname) in my pgp at uploading files to LP or Debian? It's wrong to include my nick? [01:53] Rcart: It's OK. [01:54] ari-tczew: Thanks (; [01:54] Rcart: You're welcome. [02:07] ari-tczew: debcommit Depends on cvs? When i run debcommit, returns this: Can't exec "cvs": Not exist such a file nor a dir at /usr/bin/debcommit line 722. [02:10] Rcart: debcommit is a part of binary package devscripts. [02:11] It doesn't depends on cvs. [02:15] ari-tczew: what could be wrong when i try to run it? [02:16] Rcart: did you try to install cvs then? [02:22] ari-tczew: this is really rare, i've installed cvs and after run debcommit and is asking for a login passoword to an unknow host: theshadow@cvs.degreez.net's password: [02:23] password* [02:23] Rcart: sorry, I'm not familiar with debcommit [02:28] ari-tczew: Thanks again. I'll google it a little more. [02:31] Rcart: does your package use cvs? [02:32] Rcart: looks like debcommit can speak to multiple SCMs, so i bet it found a .cvs in your working directory and is trying to do something with it [02:32] achiang: No, it uses bazaar [02:33] Rcart: Are you 100% sure there is no .cvs directory being seen by debcommit? [02:34] jmarsden: look the ls -la output: http://pastebin.com/0Wepnxua [02:35] there's a CVS and a .bzr dir [02:35] CVS will trigger it. [02:36] You can see what it checks for in the getprog function within debcommit. [02:36] remove the CVS directory and I think all will be well. [02:39] jmarsden: i'm looking in debcommit and firts checks for the CVS dir and then the .bzr dir (among others) [02:40] Right, so kill the CVS and it will see the .bzr and do what you want. Right? [02:40] Rcart: Or, if you prefer, swap the order of the tests around in debcommit so it picks .bzr even if CVS exists :) [02:42] jmarsden: Nice tip, but with the last, the package will be with the same problem at other times, right? [02:43] Correct. The real question is how or why a package would ever have both CVS and .bzr at the same time, it makes no sense to me. [02:43] Maybe they used to use CVS, migrated to bzr and forgot to remove the old cvs-relatred dirs from their source tree? [02:45] surely, they also seems to forgot update the debian/patches dir after upgrading from dpatch to quilt [03:43] I've a lintian warning: out-of-date-standards-version 3.8.4 (current is 3.9.1). Should i update the Standards version field to the 3.9.1 ? [03:44] Rcart: if your package is 3.9.1 standard, yeah :) [03:44] Rcart: in most cases this is done without issue [03:46] Rcart: Officially you need to read through the change list from the current debian-policy package back to 3.8.4 and ensure you don't need to update stuff to meet 3.9.1 [03:47] Rcart: See /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz # assuming you have debian-policy installed :) [03:49] Ok. I'll leave it in 3.8.4 and let someone else who has read the Debian Policy updates to change that field :) [03:49] Rcart: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/upgrading-checklist.txt # is may well be more current than the local one you have. [03:49] Rcart: no, you should upgrade [03:50] Rcart: but you need to be sure that you're 3.9.1. standard :) [03:50] Rcart: there's no reason to keep it that old :) [03:50] Ok. Reading the debian policy updates :) [04:21] Looks like no changes for this package. The control file (most relevant) seems to fit the standards. I hope not to be wrong (: [05:22] !info pbuilder-dist [05:22] Package pbuilder-dist does not exist in maverick [05:23] !info ubuntu-dev-tools [05:23] ubuntu-dev-tools (source: ubuntu-dev-tools): useful tools for Ubuntu developers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.104 (maverick), package size 140 kB, installed size 672 kB [05:43] good nights. Thanks for your helo (: [05:43] help* === v is now known as stalcup [08:07] good morning [08:25] good morning dholbach [08:26] hi geser === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [11:14] Which of wget, curl is on a system by default? [11:21] mok0: wget [11:21] Bachstelze: thanks [11:22] I'd prefer curl, but then... === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:13] udienz: ping [12:13] ari-tczew, pong [12:14] udienz: do you consider learn to merges? [12:14] ari-tczew: yup [12:15] udienz: would be nice to sponsor some merges from you [12:17] ari-tczew, Great! thanks i will looking for merging [12:18] udienz: I suggest to take trivial merges at the start, not important packages like bash. [12:19] udienz: I can give you some examples which are trivial merges if you want. [12:19] * ari-tczew breakfast, brb. [12:30] Hm, debian-policy manuals description of maintainer scripts is really hard to deconvolute [12:31] I haven't written a maintainer script in a while, and it's pzzzzt gone from my brain :-( [12:32] Ah, cool: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/MaintainerScripts.html [12:32] Just what I need. Thanks for letting me talk to myself :-) [12:32] mok0: http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts is good [12:32] Laney, indeed! Thanks [13:10] does anyone know how to get in contact with the OpenJDK packagers? (no, #ubuntu-java doesn't work, it is basically empty) [13:11] the packages there are uninstallable since months [13:12] soc1: file a bug against it [13:13] mok0: it seems that both "bugs" and "answers" are disabled on launchpad and are not used [13:14] https://launchpad.net/~openjdk/+archive/ppa [13:14] PPAs don't have bug tracking [13:14] you need to contact the owner of the PPA [13:14] i can't find any way to file a bug against the PPA or even the project [13:15] don't know, but I'm afraid we can't help you with that here [13:15] I suggest you contact the uploader privately [13:16] soc1: use reportbug to report the bug to Debian [13:16] why do you think it applies to Debian? [13:16] yeah, it's a PPA soc1 [13:16] Ah [13:16] soc1: that can't even build debian packages ( without retargeting it ) [13:18] soc1: try to ping doko, then, it seems he is the uploader [13:20] Uh gotta go, bye [13:20] ok, thnkas === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:13] tumbleweed: do you think I can steal https://code.launchpad.net/~menesis/ubuntu/natty/hamster-applet/natty/+merge/45233? [15:13] (steal from the person proposing a merge, not from you ;)) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:13] oh, wait - menesis is here :) [15:13] menesis: are you going to work on hamster-applet update for natty? [15:13] kklimonda: hi :) [15:14] hey :) [15:14] you uploaded the last version, right? [15:14] menesis: yes [15:14] well, previous one - the last one was uploaded by Chris [15:15] please, take it if you want [15:15] I haven't merged Debian changes [15:16] kklimonda: glad someone's looking at it, it's been in the queue for way too long [15:16] menesis: tumbleweed: ok, I'll take it then [15:19] you will merge the debian changes? [15:25] menesis: yes [15:25] (I've also subscribed to hamster-applet bugs on Debian so I won't miss it anymore) [15:26] good, then I leave it to you. thanks in advance [15:49] hi, in a control file, how can I use inheritance for description field? to avoid duplicate text [15:56] it's not possible (at least not directly) [15:57] well, lintian is talking about it in its report [16:13] does anyone have a clue on this error? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UMzwRXyx [16:16] Legendario, you should put orig.tar.gz in ../ [16:22] udienz, the upstream package is zip [16:27] udienz, i've created one. but i don't believe the problem is that. I'm still having an error [16:28] Legendario, what the name of your orig.tar.gz? [16:32] udienz, sigil-0.3.2.orig.tar.gz [16:32] Legendario: change - to _ [16:32] Legendario, change it to sigil_0.3.2.orig.tar.gz [16:51] udienz, it seems to work... thanks :-) [16:52] Legendario, and thanks to tumbleweed too :) [16:53] Guys, how would I go about making a patch for Pidgin? [16:54] I considered downloading the branch, but it has over 20,000 revisions. [16:59] JackyAlcine, use this $ pull-lp-source pidgin [16:59] JackyAlcine: lp:ubuntu/pidgin branch? [17:00] Well, I already did "bzr branch lp:pidgin" and got the branch. [17:01] But where would I upload my code? [17:01] JackyAlcine: what are you trying to patch? pidgin or the package in ubuntu? [17:01] Pidgin. [17:01] Not the package. [17:02] where can I get the source of the ubuntuwire rcbugs page? [17:03] JackyAlcine: you should forward all patches to the pidgin developers then [17:03] Hm. Alright, then. [17:03] wgrant: ^^^^ [17:05] I could actually probably recreate it with UDD, thinking about it. === sebner_ is now known as sebner [17:21] Laney: ajmitch should have the code === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [17:42] what about this one? [17:42] http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/A0PCQcdY [17:47] Hello. I'm working in this bug #420387 [17:47] Launchpad bug 420387 in bittornado (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420387 [17:48] I've uploaded a branch with some fixes, in the my branch i've removed the CVS dectory that was refusing to use bzr to upload the changes (there was an CVS directoy, and a .bzr directoy) [17:50] So, scott's comment says that the CVS diresctory should stay in the branch. What do you think? [17:51] it's some problem with pbuilder-satisfydepends [17:59] Legendario: for which Ubuntu release is this pbuilder? [18:01] Legendario: do you have "universe" enabled in your pbuilder? libqt4-webkit is the only of your build-depends in universe [18:02] as libqt4-webkit is a transitional package you could also replace it with "libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.0~)" which is in main [18:03] Laney: check collab-qa for udd scripts, there is a rcbugs for debian -> ubuntu, it could be adapted easily. [18:05] bdrung: ping [18:05] geser, it's for natty [18:09] bug #705526 o.O [18:09] Launchpad bug 705526 in gbrainy (Ubuntu) "No bug with the software. My language is more colourful, than you thought. The gbrainy's hungarian is kinda good, as my english... so... i have to re-learn my own language, if I'd like better results with this game. :)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705526 [18:11] geser, gonna try that [18:12] RainCT: Haha. Probably a bad translator? [18:17] adding a -common package isn't very exciting [18:22] MTecknology, lol, indeed [18:28] what does "src/Makefile.am: object `empathy-accounts-dialog.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without" mean ? [18:28] is there an easy fix for it? [18:37] iamfuzz: wanna test what I did and finish it off for me? :D [18:46] I build a source package, but after "debuild", I have a package that only contains the changelog and stuff, but not my actual .jar file. How do I add it? [19:10] building, building, rebuilding, rebuilding, rebuilding, testing, building, rebuilding, retesting, oh what a day when you know not what you're doing..... [19:11] I built a source package, but after "debuild", I have a package that only contains the changelog and stuff, but not my actual .jar file. How do I add it? [19:11] vanguard: do you creating new package or working on existing package? [19:12] I am upstream, so I would like to create a new package [19:15] I created the debian dir with the dh tools, and wrote stuff into the files [19:15] I guess the problem is that the makefile generates the .jar into the ../ directory. But I do not really know how I will get it into the .deb === `Alessio` is now known as quadrispro [19:17] ari-tczew: yup, natty's w3m would be fine for me if getting that to Lucid & Maverick is feasible. The way bug 683337 is worded, it only asked for backport of that 020_button.patch though. (btw w3m 0.5.3 exists upstream as well) [19:17] Launchpad bug 683337 in w3m (Ubuntu Lucid) "Backport button element support to Lucid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683337 [19:18] ari-tczew: are you still there? [19:21] vanguard: yes I am here. I'm not familiar with java packages, sorry. [19:22] vanguard, try a debian/install file, which is of the format "thing/to/install /destination/on/disk" [19:22] with a \t in between? [19:23] yeah. but that's hard to add in an irc client. [19:26] directhex: boom, now it is not liek 10K but 164K, sounds good. [19:26] vanguard, check contents with "dpkg -c". check dependencies with "dpkg -I" [19:27] directhex: I wrote that I want to install my .jar file to /pu.jar, but in the dpkg -c it is listed as "./pu.jar/" --- normal? [19:28] vanguard, yes, but most people don't want jar files in /, they want them in... i dunno, is it /usr/lib/java? [19:28] /usr/share/java [19:29] so maybe /usr/share/java/myGameName/game.jar ? [19:29] you'd need to ask the debian java folks. i honestly don't know [19:29] vanguard: there's a whole policy manual on java files [19:30] vanguard: do you need this? [19:30] i mean, there are a few existing java games, so check those? freecol for example [19:30] it has all the standards and such [19:30] it's in the DDP IIRC [19:30] paultag: If you have it at hand, I would happily read it [19:30] vanguard: moment [19:31] vanguard: http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Packaging [19:32] vanguard: ah, here's the best copy -- http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ [19:33] zul: howdy [19:33] vanguard: see 2.2, and Debian Policy 9.1 [19:34] paultag: I'll check it out [19:34] vanguard: good luck! [19:34] paultag: time to help me now that you're done helping him :D [19:34] MTecknology: howdy, friend [19:34] paultag: howdy, how ya been? [19:35] MTecknology: well, thanks for asking [19:35] MTecknology: and youself? [19:35] yourself, shucks. Can't type today. Long morning [19:35] Oh jeez, it's 2:30 PM [19:36] i'm doing well except for the lack of job and ruptured disk [19:36] ouch, and oucher [19:37] I need a help on this: the package doesn't use the usual, .configure, make, makeinstall. Instead it brings an installer. how should i set the cdbs for that? [19:37] trying to get an nginx-common package [19:37] Legendario: is it nonfree? [19:37] MTecknology: I don't know much about multi-binary. Ask me in a few days, I need to split up a package of mine in Debian into a few parts. Someone else might be able to help you better then me [19:38] MTecknology: unless it's theory. I understand that OK [19:41] paultag, no... it's gpl3. but the source code comes with a installer script [19:42] Legendario: does it support DESTDIR or some other way of having it barf files in a directory other then /, without prefixing scripts and such with the fullpath? [19:43] paultag, I'm just starting to deal with cdbs documentation... kind os lost [19:43] Legendario: forget about CDBS for now ;) [19:43] Legendario: welcome in the club :D [19:43] Legendario: can you use something like DESTDIR? [19:43] Legendario: if you can, you can do it, if you can't you will have to patch it, most likely. [19:43] I got a question about lintian: What does debhelper-but-no-misc-depends mean? [19:44] vanguard: use the -I flag [19:44] vanguard: it means you forgot a bit in your control file [19:44] vanguard: you should try using lintian with -IiE --pedantic, that's how I use it :) [19:45] I read that lintian is mean, but that it even complains about the vim .swp files ... wow :D [19:46] vanguard: those are extra space and junk :) [19:46] vanguard: you don't need them, they're bad to have, they just waste space [19:46] :) [19:46] paultag: I realize that, I just a vim window open editing the copyright file since it was bitching about that as well :D [19:47] hahaha, yeah [19:47] I've done that before [19:47] and I set the install path to /opt to be out of the way of everyone, but that does not seem to be okay. But /opt is for stuff that does not come in a package like UrbanTerror or Maple, right? [19:48] vanguard: opt is not the right place :) [19:48] paultag: what is the right place for opt? [19:48] vanguard: it's OK when you're installing by hand, from someone [19:48] okay, then it is clear [19:48] vanguard: optional software under certen conditions and blah blah. [19:48] vanguard: it's in the FHS, there's a format too, /opt/company/project or something like that [19:49] it's also a pain to set up a way to put it in your path, because you have to go into /opt/*/*/bin/* [19:49] unless you similink [19:49] paultag: I split nginx into nginx-{full,light,extras} and now I need to move a lot of that stuff into nginx-common to fix some of the issues that came up from the split. :( [19:49] MTecknology: sweet :) [19:50] paultag: ya, but fixing the bugs and getting the nginx-common is a pain in the butt [19:50] vanguard: and since debs are getting installed by superuser by the software vender of the OS, I think they have to be installed into a "bigboy" place, so not /usr/local or anything like that [19:50] MTecknology: yeah for sure [19:50] but I'm not sure about that, I could be wrong [19:51] bigboy place? [19:51] Heck, I'm not even MOTU. [19:51] MTecknology: /usr/bin and not /usr/local/bin [19:51] paultag: I think that I should put my .jar into /usr/share/java/ and put a simple shellscript into /usr/bin? [19:51] MTecknology: local is for locally compiled or created software IIRC [19:51] vanguard: that sounds much more sane [19:51] vanguard: :) [19:52] paultag: let me check out what lintian says about that. It is like an epic battle with a dragon or so :D [19:52] paultag: it's the term that made me laught [19:52] laugh* [19:52] vanguard: FTI -- http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-3.12.html [19:52] MTecknology: hahaha, glad to get a chortle :) [19:52] vanguard: for sure :) [19:57] paultag: oh.. when i automated server setups.. part of the script did rmdir /usr/local/sbin && bzr branch [...] /usr/local/sbin [19:57] MTecknology: wait, what?! [19:57] MTecknology: why? That's really not smart [19:58] why's that? [19:58] MTecknology: 1) if they're similinks, you've missed the reason to have sbin. If they're binaries, you're a) storing a binary in VCS, so wasting space, and b) klobbering the package manager [19:59] If they're binaries was 2) [19:59] MTecknology: is if a package changes it's .so set, you can have another abi [19:59] they were scripts [19:59] MTecknology: ... so?! [19:59] MTecknology: just make a meta-package [20:00] MTecknology: there's no reason to use bzr for that [20:00] they were frequently changing; mostly just backup scripts and maintenance junk [20:01] I'm sure I could have picked a better directory; but the point was that it was /usr/local/ === hanska is now known as dapal [20:02] MTecknology: still dude, metapackages at the least [20:02] MTecknology: it hurts my soul [20:02] metapackage for scripts? [20:02] for very frequently changing scripts* [20:02] MTecknology: package up the scripts, and make a mtecknology-server metapackage or something [20:02] MTecknology: yes, just publish to a local repo [20:02] MTecknology: then you can just update && upgrade the boxes [20:03] MTecknology: it's wicked easy to make them native, even [20:03] [20:04] :P [20:05] BBL, heading home :) [20:05] lintians says debhelper-but-no-misc-depends [20:05] but debuild tells me dpkg-source: Warnung: kann Abhängigkeit ${misc:Depends} nicht auswerten (cannot compile) [20:05] what do I do now? [20:05] at least the fatal error is at line 1337 ... [20:06] vanguard: GR! [20:06] I don't understand [20:07] vanguard: sorry, not sure why I added your nick there, was supposed to be just an expression of irritation to the channel [20:09] I want to install a man page.. nginx.1; I want it to be part of the nginx-common package only; how do I make that happen? [20:15] launchpad has accepted my tinkered package [20:15] * vanguard treats himself with a yogurth now :D [20:17] Start the DAy [20:17] Gah. [20:18] wgrant: hello wgrant. Did you adjust UDD FTBFS script? [20:18] ari-tczew: I don't touch UDD. [20:22] wgrant: why? last time when I asked you, you said that it's possible [20:23] ari-tczew: What's the URL? [20:24] wgrant: of FTBFS script? [20:24] how do I add an icon to a package? [20:24] I run several FTBFS scripts. [20:24] wgrant: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [20:26] vanguard: check for source any package, e.g. gwget [20:26] ari-tczew: That's probably run by lucas. [20:27] ari-tczew: right, I have to learn what OSS really means ... :D [20:27] wgrant: yes, but sometimes. I guess you have access to server, where you could that script often. [20:28] No, that's a Debian server. I'm not a DD. [20:30] wgrant: are you Canonical employee? [20:40] ari-tczew: Yes. [20:43] wgrant: orly? Since when? [20:44] soren: Mid-December. [20:44] wgrant: Cool. Congrats! [20:44] 'grats [20:44] Thanks! [20:45] Currently in Dallas at the LP sprint. [20:46] ah, that explains your unusual time when you're on IRC [20:48] geser: This is wgrant. More unusual, since unusual times on IRC is usual for him. [20:49] That may change with the reorg, though, given that my team is now western US. [20:49] but you still live in Australia or did you move? [20:49] Still in .au. [21:01] nonix4: w3m from natty builds cleanly on maverick. on lucid doesn't, unfortunately. [21:37] i've been told qdvdauthor was removed from the repository for natty, does anyone know why? [21:38] scott-work: obsolete is the reason given: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qdvdauthor/+changelog [21:39] hmmm, curious...thanks micahg [22:58] DktrKranz: shall we remove root-system from Ubuntu, as well? [23:01] ari-tczew: it will be anyway as soon as archive-admins schedule removals from Debian, unless there's a valid reason to keep it around. I don't know what the package is about to judge, though. I just performed actual removal. [23:01] but I'd say go for its removal [23:03] DktrKranz: OK thank you for feedback. ; )) [23:04] np :)