| paultag | whoh, r00t4rd3d was here as well? | 02:57 |
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| paultag | thanks, tsimpson :) | 02:58 |
| jmej_ | hmm.. so ardour doesn't see my lv2 plugins ... is this a known issue? path problem... or compiled w/out the correct flags? | 07:30 |
| jmej_ | or is there simply no lv2 stuff in ubuntu studio? | 07:50 |
| jmej_ | i was under the impression there was because i have lv2core installed according to apt-get... | 07:50 |
| jmej_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskLV2Inclusion | 07:51 |
| jmej_ | that doesn't look good :/ | 07:51 |
| jmej_ | though i don't totally understand it... | 07:51 |
| jmej_ | hmm.. well i found the lv2 plugins on my system.. but ardour doesn't see em :( | 08:02 |
| jmej_ | exporting a path variable | 08:02 |
| jmej_ | still no love | 08:02 |
| jmej_ | anyone have lv2 working in ardour? | 08:04 |
| ailo | ardour 3? | 08:05 |
| jmej_ | no... are you running ardour 3? | 08:07 |
| jmej_ | 2.8.2 here | 08:07 |
| jmej_ | i'm happy to remove it and install w/ different flags if it's as simple as that | 08:07 |
| jmej_ | though if ardour 3 is running well for you over there i supposed i could do that as well | 08:08 |
| jmej_ | i figured since it wasn't even alpha it wouldn't be too stable | 08:08 |
| jmej_ | but i've never worked with any of pauls bleeding edge releases - so i may be assuming wrong? | 08:08 |
| ailo | But, you built it yourself? | 08:10 |
| jmej_ | no | 08:10 |
| jmej_ | installed via ubuntu studio | 08:10 |
| jmej_ | i'm a little unclear about the distinction between ubuntu studio packages... and normal ubuntu packages | 08:10 |
| jmej_ | but eitherway i didn't build it from source | 08:10 |
| ailo | No difference. Ubuntustudio has some meta-packages that depend on audio packages in the Ubuntu repo | 08:11 |
| jmej_ | so i should be able to get a version of ardour running w/ lv2 support | 08:11 |
| jmej_ | possibly even from a repository? (rather than building from source) | 08:11 |
| jmej_ | or maybe my version can be massaged into working w/ lv2? | 08:11 |
| ailo | How do you know your lv2 plugs aren't showing? | 08:13 |
| ailo | What version of Ubuntu are you on? | 08:13 |
| jmej_ | they're not in the plugin manager | 08:13 |
| jmej_ | ubuntu 9.10 | 08:13 |
| ailo | So, if you go into plugin-manager, choose to sort by type, lv2 doesn't show up? | 08:14 |
| jmej_ | correct | 08:14 |
| jmej_ | but i have calf.lv2 and lv2core.lv2 in /usr/lib/lv2 | 08:15 |
| ailo | I don't have this problem on Ubuntu Natty. Don't have a Karmic system to try right now. | 08:15 |
| jmej_ | so this is unlikely to be an ubuntustudio specific problem? | 08:16 |
| ailo | No, but Karmic specific | 08:16 |
| jmej_ | ah | 08:16 |
| ailo | Since ardour is in Ubuntu's repo | 08:16 |
| jmej_ | oh ok.. so it would only be packages that don't show up in the normal ubuntu repo that would be different | 08:17 |
| ailo | Yeah | 08:17 |
| jmej_ | i wonder if it is just a matter of adding some flags when installing via apt-get | 08:17 |
| ailo | Or, actually Ubuntustudio meta-packages are also in the repo | 08:17 |
| ailo | The meta-packages depends on a collection of packages | 08:18 |
| jmej_ | ah | 08:18 |
| ailo | But the audio packages themselves aren't Ubuntustudio specific | 08:18 |
| jmej_ | ok | 08:18 |
| ailo | Anyway, you might have better luck trying a PPA, if there is one that has ardour for Karmic | 08:19 |
| jmej_ | PPA? | 08:19 |
| jmej_ | what's a ppa? | 08:20 |
| ailo | It's an unofficial Ubuntu repo that can be added. Some are personal, some belong to a music distro | 08:20 |
| ailo | In launchpad | 08:21 |
| jmej_ | oh i see | 08:21 |
| ailo | I'm going to check Puredyne's PPA. They have a version for Karmic. | 08:22 |
| ailo | But they didn't include ardour :( | 08:22 |
| ailo | Still, I don't know what the problem is. Could be you can fix it. | 08:22 |
| jmej_ | ah that's too bad | 08:22 |
| jmej_ | it's not something silly like needing to do apt-get install ardour +lv2 | 08:23 |
| jmej_ | is it? | 08:23 |
| ailo | I've never heard of that | 08:23 |
| jmej_ | ok | 08:23 |
| jmej_ | i know with macports there are all sorts of optional package flags | 08:23 |
| ailo | You could try talking on the ardour forum, Ubuntu forum and #opensroucemusicians | 08:23 |
| jmej_ | ok - thanks for your help | 08:24 |
| jmej_ | i'll give it a shot | 08:24 |
| ailo | Surely someone know ardour enough to find what the problem is | 08:24 |
| ailo | jmej_: There's #ardour too. Maybe that's the first place to look :). Didn't know it was so well used. | 08:25 |
| jmej_ | yeah i'll try that | 08:26 |
| jmej_ | i've had luck in there before :) | 08:26 |
| jmej_ | just thought it might be some ubuntu studio specific weirdness | 08:26 |
| ailo | No. I mean, it could be that the package in the repo is not built right, but would be best to find that out before replacing it. | 08:27 |
| jmej_ | gotcha | 08:27 |
| persia | The other alternative is to upgrade to 10.04 or 10.10. 10.04 is probably more stable of the two. | 09:36 |
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| gordonjcp | hi, I'm having some problems trying to untangle which jack to install in 10.10 | 22:24 |
| gordonjcp | if I install libjack-dev it doesn't actually pull in a package with a jackd | 22:25 |
| gordonjcp | jackd2 wants to pull in masses of deps including Qt, for reasons I can't entirely fathom | 22:26 |
| gordonjcp | trying to install jackd and jackd1 both pop up a huge screed of packages they want to install, remove or replace starting with: | 22:28 |
| gordonjcp | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libjack0: Conflicts: libjack-0.116 which is a virtual package. libjack-jackd2-0: Conflicts: libjack-0.116 which is a virtual package. | 22:28 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: hey | 22:30 |
| holstein | what do you mean my 'to install 10.10 ? | 22:30 |
| holstein | is this a 10.04 install? | 22:30 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: hi | 22:30 |
| gordonjcp | no, 10.10 | 22:31 |
| gordonjcp | maverick meerkat, apparently | 22:31 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: any PPA's added? | 22:31 |
| gordonjcp | uhm... | 22:31 |
| gordonjcp | how would I tell? | 22:31 |
| gordonjcp | what is a PPA? | 22:31 |
| holstein | thats probably a good indication that you dont ;) | 22:32 |
| holstein | i use 10.04 | 22:32 |
| holstein | with a PPA added | 22:32 |
| holstein | https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid | 22:32 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: try running in a terminal | 22:32 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 22:33 |
| holstein | then sudo apt-get upgrade | 22:33 |
| gordonjcp | I did that recently | 22:33 |
| holstein | just now? | 22:33 |
| gordonjcp | well, about an hour ago | 22:33 |
| holstein | in the last 2 minutes? | 22:33 |
| holstein | OK | 22:33 |
| holstein | what about | 22:33 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 22:33 |
| holstein | which shouldnt matter | 22:33 |
| holstein | if you dont have PPA's added | 22:34 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: fire up synaptic | 22:34 |
| holstein | and search libjack | 22:34 |
| holstein | and let me fire up 10.10 | 22:35 |
| gordonjcp | eek | 22:35 |
| gordonjcp | huge incomprehensible list | 22:35 |
| holstein | dont do it then | 22:35 |
| holstein | let me get in and look too | 22:35 |
| gordonjcp | I don't get on well with GUIs | 22:35 |
| holstein | OH | 22:36 |
| paultag | IO! | 22:36 |
| holstein | drill down in the search if you want | 22:36 |
| holstein | or apt-cache search | 22:36 |
| holstein | paultag: o/ | 22:37 |
| paultag | hey holstein | 22:37 |
| holstein | OK | 22:38 |
| holstein | when i upgrade | 22:38 |
| holstein | with apt-get | 22:38 |
| holstein | says 5 packages are being held back | 22:38 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: let me let this go through | 22:38 |
| holstein | and i'll see what that is about | 22:38 |
| holstein | if you have a minute | 22:38 |
| gordonjcp | yup, okay | 22:39 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: this is a 64bit install | 22:39 |
| holstein | yours 32bit? | 22:39 |
| gordonjcp | yes | 22:39 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 22:39 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: to give you an idea of the problem, I'm trying to write a set of instructions for setting up and installing some software I wrote under Ubuntu | 22:42 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: cool | 22:43 |
| holstein | audio software? | 22:43 |
| gordonjcp | I'm not particularly familiar with Ubuntu, and I don't really like the Debianish way of packaging | 22:43 |
| gordonjcp | yes, kind of, it's a software-defined radio | 22:43 |
| holstein | interesting | 22:43 |
| gordonjcp | essentially you have some samples coming in, and apply some filtering and magic to them, and you get radio | 22:44 |
| holstein | and its JACK ready? | 22:44 |
| gordonjcp | yes, it inherently uses jack because all other methods of capturing and playing back audio suck elephants through very fine mesh | 22:44 |
| * holstein gives gordonjcp a fits-bump | 22:45 | |
| holstein | fist* | 22:45 |
| gordonjcp | since what I actually want it to do is process a block of samples periodically, and repeatedly, jack is utterly perfect | 22:45 |
| gordonjcp | and, I'm familiar with jack from doing LADSPA/DSSI hackery | 22:45 |
| gordonjcp | https://github.com/gordonjcp/lysdr/wiki | 22:45 |
| gordonjcp | ^ there's the github wiki page | 22:45 |
| holstein | you might be interested in #opensourcemusicians | 22:46 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: ooh interesting, yes | 22:46 |
| holstein | or rather, im sure some folk in that community would like to meet you :) | 22:46 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: I've kind of moved away from softsynths although I do plan to restart development of the nekosynth plugins Real Soon Now | 22:46 |
| gordonjcp | I've moved onto experimental microcontroller-based hybrid synths | 22:47 |
| gordonjcp | that look like this: http://www.gjcp.net/media/filter.jpg and sound like this: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/ameniser.ogg | 22:48 |
| holstein | hehe | 22:48 |
| holstein | awesome | 22:48 |
| gordonjcp | drums and bass played on an Arduino Duemilanove and filtered through the board in the pic | 22:49 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: well, im restarting | 22:51 |
| holstein | (kernel update) | 22:51 |
| holstein | but im afraid it looks like im not getting that same error | 22:52 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: what are the chances the software you built is calling on those conflicting files? | 22:52 |
| holstein | a PPA is basically a repository by the way | 22:53 |
| holstein | IF you wanted to make your software easily available to ubuntu users | 22:53 |
| holstein | thats one way to do it | 22:53 |
| holstein | make your own PPA | 22:53 |
| holstein | and i can add it to my system | 22:53 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: righto | 22:53 |
| holstein | and apt-get it | 22:53 |
| gordonjcp | holstein: it's just built against jack | 22:54 |
| gordonjcp | I mean it's not trying to do anything really weird | 22:54 |
| holstein | could be something funky in the 32bit verion i suppose | 22:54 |
| holstein | did you try any flags with aptitude | 22:55 |
| holstein | -f or whatever | 22:55 |
| gordonjcp | no | 22:55 |
| holstein | i always have to reference the man page | 22:55 |
| holstein | or google ;) | 22:55 |
| gordonjcp | I'll look into it more tomorrow, it's nearly 2300 here | 22:55 |
| holstein | gordonjcp: good luck | 22:55 |
| holstein | i think that is easy enough to sort out | 22:56 |
| rlameiro | good evening everyone | 23:53 |
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