[02:57] whoh, r00t4rd3d was here as well? [02:58] thanks, tsimpson :) [07:30] hmm.. so ardour doesn't see my lv2 plugins ... is this a known issue? path problem... or compiled w/out the correct flags? [07:50] or is there simply no lv2 stuff in ubuntu studio? [07:50] i was under the impression there was because i have lv2core installed according to apt-get... [07:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskLV2Inclusion [07:51] that doesn't look good :/ [07:51] though i don't totally understand it... [08:02] hmm.. well i found the lv2 plugins on my system.. but ardour doesn't see em :( [08:02] exporting a path variable [08:02] still no love [08:04] anyone have lv2 working in ardour? [08:05] ardour 3? [08:07] no... are you running ardour 3? [08:07] 2.8.2 here [08:07] i'm happy to remove it and install w/ different flags if it's as simple as that [08:08] though if ardour 3 is running well for you over there i supposed i could do that as well [08:08] i figured since it wasn't even alpha it wouldn't be too stable [08:08] but i've never worked with any of pauls bleeding edge releases - so i may be assuming wrong? [08:10] But, you built it yourself? [08:10] no [08:10] installed via ubuntu studio [08:10] i'm a little unclear about the distinction between ubuntu studio packages... and normal ubuntu packages [08:10] but eitherway i didn't build it from source [08:11] No difference. Ubuntustudio has some meta-packages that depend on audio packages in the Ubuntu repo [08:11] so i should be able to get a version of ardour running w/ lv2 support [08:11] possibly even from a repository? (rather than building from source) [08:11] or maybe my version can be massaged into working w/ lv2? [08:13] How do you know your lv2 plugs aren't showing? [08:13] What version of Ubuntu are you on? [08:13] they're not in the plugin manager [08:13] ubuntu 9.10 [08:14] So, if you go into plugin-manager, choose to sort by type, lv2 doesn't show up? [08:14] correct [08:15] but i have calf.lv2 and lv2core.lv2 in /usr/lib/lv2 [08:15] I don't have this problem on Ubuntu Natty. Don't have a Karmic system to try right now. [08:16] so this is unlikely to be an ubuntustudio specific problem? [08:16] No, but Karmic specific [08:16] ah [08:16] Since ardour is in Ubuntu's repo [08:17] oh ok.. so it would only be packages that don't show up in the normal ubuntu repo that would be different [08:17] Yeah [08:17] i wonder if it is just a matter of adding some flags when installing via apt-get [08:17] Or, actually Ubuntustudio meta-packages are also in the repo [08:18] The meta-packages depends on a collection of packages [08:18] ah [08:18] But the audio packages themselves aren't Ubuntustudio specific [08:18] ok [08:19] Anyway, you might have better luck trying a PPA, if there is one that has ardour for Karmic [08:19] PPA? [08:20] what's a ppa? [08:20] It's an unofficial Ubuntu repo that can be added. Some are personal, some belong to a music distro [08:21] In launchpad [08:21] oh i see [08:22] I'm going to check Puredyne's PPA. They have a version for Karmic. [08:22] But they didn't include ardour :( [08:22] Still, I don't know what the problem is. Could be you can fix it. [08:22] ah that's too bad [08:23] it's not something silly like needing to do apt-get install ardour +lv2 [08:23] is it? [08:23] I've never heard of that [08:23] ok [08:23] i know with macports there are all sorts of optional package flags [08:23] You could try talking on the ardour forum, Ubuntu forum and #opensroucemusicians [08:24] ok - thanks for your help [08:24] i'll give it a shot [08:24] Surely someone know ardour enough to find what the problem is [08:25] jmej_: There's #ardour too. Maybe that's the first place to look :). Didn't know it was so well used. [08:26] yeah i'll try that [08:26] i've had luck in there before :) [08:26] just thought it might be some ubuntu studio specific weirdness [08:27] No. I mean, it could be that the package in the repo is not built right, but would be best to find that out before replacing it. [08:27] gotcha [09:36] The other alternative is to upgrade to 10.04 or 10.10. 10.04 is probably more stable of the two. === peregrinator_six is now known as programador === programador is now known as peregrinator_six === charlie-tca is now known as charlie-tca__ === charlie-tca__ is now known as charlie-tca [22:24] hi, I'm having some problems trying to untangle which jack to install in 10.10 [22:25] if I install libjack-dev it doesn't actually pull in a package with a jackd [22:26] jackd2 wants to pull in masses of deps including Qt, for reasons I can't entirely fathom [22:28] trying to install jackd and jackd1 both pop up a huge screed of packages they want to install, remove or replace starting with: [22:28] The following packages have unmet dependencies: libjack0: Conflicts: libjack-0.116 which is a virtual package. libjack-jackd2-0: Conflicts: libjack-0.116 which is a virtual package. [22:30] gordonjcp: hey [22:30] what do you mean my 'to install 10.10 ? [22:30] is this a 10.04 install? [22:30] holstein: hi [22:31] no, 10.10 [22:31] maverick meerkat, apparently [22:31] gordonjcp: any PPA's added? [22:31] uhm... [22:31] how would I tell? [22:31] what is a PPA? [22:32] thats probably a good indication that you dont ;) [22:32] i use 10.04 [22:32] with a PPA added [22:32] https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid [22:32] gordonjcp: try running in a terminal [22:33] sudo apt-get update [22:33] then sudo apt-get upgrade [22:33] I did that recently [22:33] just now? [22:33] well, about an hour ago [22:33] in the last 2 minutes? [22:33] OK [22:33] what about [22:33] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [22:33] which shouldnt matter [22:34] if you dont have PPA's added [22:34] gordonjcp: fire up synaptic [22:34] and search libjack [22:35] and let me fire up 10.10 [22:35] eek [22:35] huge incomprehensible list [22:35] dont do it then [22:35] let me get in and look too [22:35] I don't get on well with GUIs [22:36] OH [22:36] IO! [22:36] drill down in the search if you want [22:36] or apt-cache search [22:37] paultag: o/ [22:37] hey holstein [22:38] OK [22:38] when i upgrade [22:38] with apt-get [22:38] says 5 packages are being held back [22:38] gordonjcp: let me let this go through [22:38] and i'll see what that is about [22:38] if you have a minute [22:39] yup, okay [22:39] gordonjcp: this is a 64bit install [22:39] yours 32bit? [22:39] yes [22:39] hmmmm [22:42] holstein: to give you an idea of the problem, I'm trying to write a set of instructions for setting up and installing some software I wrote under Ubuntu [22:43] gordonjcp: cool [22:43] audio software? [22:43] I'm not particularly familiar with Ubuntu, and I don't really like the Debianish way of packaging [22:43] yes, kind of, it's a software-defined radio [22:43] interesting [22:44] essentially you have some samples coming in, and apply some filtering and magic to them, and you get radio [22:44] and its JACK ready? [22:44] yes, it inherently uses jack because all other methods of capturing and playing back audio suck elephants through very fine mesh [22:45] * holstein gives gordonjcp a fits-bump [22:45] fist* [22:45] since what I actually want it to do is process a block of samples periodically, and repeatedly, jack is utterly perfect [22:45] and, I'm familiar with jack from doing LADSPA/DSSI hackery [22:45] https://github.com/gordonjcp/lysdr/wiki [22:45] ^ there's the github wiki page [22:46] you might be interested in #opensourcemusicians [22:46] holstein: ooh interesting, yes [22:46] or rather, im sure some folk in that community would like to meet you :) [22:46] holstein: I've kind of moved away from softsynths although I do plan to restart development of the nekosynth plugins Real Soon Now [22:47] I've moved onto experimental microcontroller-based hybrid synths [22:48] that look like this: http://www.gjcp.net/media/filter.jpg and sound like this: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/ameniser.ogg [22:48] hehe [22:48] awesome [22:49] drums and bass played on an Arduino Duemilanove and filtered through the board in the pic [22:51] gordonjcp: well, im restarting [22:51] (kernel update) [22:52] but im afraid it looks like im not getting that same error [22:52] gordonjcp: what are the chances the software you built is calling on those conflicting files? [22:53] a PPA is basically a repository by the way [22:53] IF you wanted to make your software easily available to ubuntu users [22:53] thats one way to do it [22:53] make your own PPA [22:53] and i can add it to my system [22:53] holstein: righto [22:53] and apt-get it [22:54] holstein: it's just built against jack [22:54] I mean it's not trying to do anything really weird [22:54] could be something funky in the 32bit verion i suppose [22:55] did you try any flags with aptitude [22:55] -f or whatever [22:55] no [22:55] i always have to reference the man page [22:55] or google ;) [22:55] I'll look into it more tomorrow, it's nearly 2300 here [22:55] gordonjcp: good luck [22:56] i think that is easy enough to sort out [23:53] good evening everyone