[00:05] whats the best pdf viewer to install? [00:16] moses: there should be one installed [00:17] okular [00:20] there is [00:20] i love this OS [00:20] crazy === Guest47179 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest16008 [00:30] oi [00:55] is there a way to launch Akregator minimized (in the system tray) ? === Guest16008 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest93486 === edu is now known as eduardopl === Guest93486 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest39298 [02:39] in KDE3 the taskbar at the bottom had a > that if you clicked it would suck the bottom screen navigation back into the >. What is that called? and does KDE4 have this too? [02:53] hello guys can somebody help in here i am trying to open this links: [02:53] Installing Wine: [02:53] Once you have added the WineHQ PPA Repository, you are ready to install. [02:53] To get the most recent Wine 1.3 beta, click this link to install the wine1.3 package. [02:53] To install the older, stable Wine 1.2 version, click this link to install the wine1.2 package. [02:53] luis_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:54] and i get error [02:55] Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program. [02:55] can you help me please??? [02:58] ok let me try again [03:01] i am tryin to get wine 1.3 i need it to install IE because there's this webpage that works only with it, i already did this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa i did it for kubuntu hardy and once i did that i think i need to get wine fro here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb but whenever i click on those links i get this: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program. is there [03:01] someone here that can help me to fix this so i can get the latest wine please??? [03:01] luis_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:01] i aM NOT [03:01] just read [03:05] so anyone in here that know how can i fix this ??? [03:08] ??? [03:08] :O [03:15] luis, isn't wine in your package search? [03:16] it's always better to use your distro tools [03:16] also, just ignore floodbot, he's just a stupid bot [03:17] also, can't you just change your browser to look like IE for the stupid website? [03:17] opera, at least, used to be able to do this easily [03:18] final question: why are you using such an old version of kubuntu? [03:21] Hello [03:21] I have a kubuntu machine using full-disk encryption [03:21] and I can't seem to access the GRUB menu on startup [03:21] no matter what key i press [03:22] any ideas? [03:24] !grup [03:24] oops [03:24] !grub [03:24] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [03:24] hey valorie [03:24] sorry [03:24] i am still looking for a solution [03:25] yes it is but like i am explaining [03:25] i do need the latest [03:25] and i did follow what i place up there [03:25] but some reason the system is not updating so i can get the latest wine [03:25] !grub2 [03:25] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:26] Hardy is immensely old [03:26] yes [03:26] like my pc [03:26] ah [03:26] i cannot use the latest kubuntu becauise my computer can't handle them [03:26] might be easier to use a lighter desktop and more up-to-date kernel though [03:26] to heavy for my little procesor [03:27] and with hardy works just fine [03:27] maybe xubuntu? [03:27] no [03:27] ok [03:27] is bad [03:27] and by the way [03:27] not sure you can use new wine with old kubuntu [03:27] i also try that [03:27] the newest [03:27] still can run properly on my pc [03:27] so is there anyother way to use [03:28] ok maybe you can help me [03:28] alrighty [03:28] here is the problem [03:28] I don't think I have that expertise [03:28] i work selling insurance [03:28] !deb [03:28] deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility. [03:28] we at the company have this webpage [03:28] hmmm [03:28] but it won't work with firefox [03:29] so you shouldn't be in firefox [03:29] only with IE [03:29] you should be in your desktop [03:29] when you doubleclick that file [03:29] and i found a way to work it out [03:29] but it does ask for the latest wine [03:29] ok [03:30] that's why i am trying to isntall thelatest === Guest39298 is now known as RaNdY [03:31] there's this page that provides support so the latest wine can be installed in kubuntu hardy: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa === RaNdY is now known as Guest51835 [03:31] and i did all that just fine [03:32] so when you do that the repositories suppose to be up to date on that specific software but in this case is not happening [03:32] i got no errors at all is just not updating [03:32] porperly [03:32] and also i am trying to get the latest in here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb [03:33] OK, there are two ways to add software [03:33] but whenever i click on the link that is to ment to get wine1.3 i get this: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program. [03:33] one is within your distro, by using the repositories [03:34] wich is the one i did rioght? [03:34] the other is using debs -- do not confuse the two [03:34] you don't use debs with repositories [03:34] debs is to do it manually right? [03:34] you get the tar file and compile it right? [03:34] yes, and you should only do that if the first method fails [03:35] it isn't clear to me that you have finished the first [03:35] first you add the repository, then you "apt-get update" [03:35] i did that [03:35] once you do that [03:35] then apt-get install wine [03:35] if you open adept manager you suppose to have the latest right? [03:36] if you update adept, sure [03:36] but it is not there [03:36] I've not really ever used adept [03:36] still the old wine [03:36] the only GUI for GRUB2 configuration right now is the gnome startupmanager? [03:36] apt is one system, adept is another [03:37] valorie: not really [03:37] i get wine1.2.1 instead of wine1.3 not even wine1.2.2 [03:37] if you updated apt, that doesn't necessarily update adept [03:37] valorie: adept is an apt frontend, just like kpackagekit, iirc [03:37] ok [03:37] (or synapic, or ubuntu software center, etc, etc) [03:37] maco is much more knowledgeable than I am [03:37] i never used adept though. was a gnome user back when that was the thing to use [03:37] so maco can you help me please [03:38] i can use any of them [03:38] ahhhh apturl right [03:38] hang on.... [03:38] but nor one or the other is working to install the latest wine [03:38] install apturl-kde [03:38] might need to restart firefox [03:38] me? [03:38] yes [03:39] hmm its that firefox doesnt know about the apturl stuff for kde, only for gnome (*sigh*) [03:39] ok [03:39] does it ask what program to use to install the stuff from apt:// protocol? [03:40] if so, /usr/bin/apturl-kde [03:40] well terminal says: couldn't find any package whose name or description matched apturl-kde [03:42] imo attempting to run IE in wine is a thankless and nervewracking task [03:43] now thats odd [03:43] http://www.playonlinux.com is the closest to an easy way to do it [03:44] you're not using something more than 2 years old are you? [03:44] oooh you are. hardy [03:44] yes [03:45] what about this playonlinux? does that does the same as IE? [03:45] there may be someone doing wine backports for hardy, but the apt:// thing the website was having you do is exactly teh same as using the package manager [03:45] so in other words [03:45] i am stuck [03:45] so if 1.2.1 is all its offering, thats it for the official repos, though you can try the hardy-backports repo in the software sources settings [03:45] and no way that i can do it [03:46] no thats not true [03:46] ok [03:46] so how do i do what you say? [03:46] you just cant use an apt:// link... can certainly still download a deb and double click it [03:46] but before going that route, id look for a repository that keeps up to date with it [03:47] somewhere in your settings (i dont know where as ive never used 8.04's version of kde) there's software sources. thats where you set what mirror you use, wehther you get all updaes or just security ones, etc. [03:47] hi [03:47] i did this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa [03:47] for hardy of course [03:47] theres a checkbox in there to enable the backports repo, which gets you newer releases of software than what was available when your kubuntu release came out [03:47] ah ok you got the ppa, great [03:47] yes [03:47] then "sudo apt-get update" and then install wine is all you should need [03:47] thats what i am saying [03:47] i did that [03:47] whatever version's in the ppa should become available to you [03:47] but is not updating [03:48] i dont know why [03:48] it doesn't give an errors it just don't update [03:48] i still see wine1.2 [03:48] instead of wine1.3 [03:48] luis_: do it from the command line to see an error message if any: [03:48] sudo apt-get update [03:48] i did that [03:49] several time [03:49] times* [03:49] then apt-get dist-upgrade [03:49] and it doesn't work [03:49] ok here is what i did [03:49] that's not the problem - the problems is that that ppa has NO wine 1.3 HARDY packages [03:49] 1.2~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-0ubuntu1 [03:49] yep yofel got it [03:49] sudo apt-get update, then upgrade, dist-upgrade, aptitude update, upgrade, dist-upgrade and dafe-upgrade [03:50] the ppa only has that version there ^ [03:50] all fot them one by one [03:50] that's it [03:50] lol [03:50] after ours and hours [03:50] yup, yofel is correct there is no 1.3 for hardy [03:50] yep [03:50] hahahaha thanks a lot yofel [03:51] still doesn't solve my issue [03:51] unless winehq has some stash of debs somewhere, you're going to have to compile wine [03:51] http://www.winehq.org/download/deb [03:52] i also did that but is not working let me paste bin what i got [03:52] luis_: I still suggest layonlinux [03:52] http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html [03:52] has hardy packages [03:52] ok [03:52] wait [03:52] claydoh [03:52] and uses wine to install IE, etc [03:52] here is my issue [03:53] at my work we use this thing to get the prices when selling an insurance it is a large company so we get speacial prices but in order to get this we need to get to a special webpage address and that page won't work properly on firefox [03:54] so googlin i found that theres a way to install IE so that web page can work properly [03:54] but as men tioned it may be easier to change the user-agent string to spoof ie, or try other bowsers [03:54] that playonlinux would do? [03:54] I have to do this on my work's trianing website [03:55] i also try google-chrome [03:55] playonlinux uses wine to help install IE among other things, it even downloads wine files if needed [03:55] won't work much less konkeror [03:55] ok let me rry that [03:55] try* [03:55] see you in a while [03:57] changing the user-agent to 'spoof' IE may also work, as is making sure you have the latest Firefox [03:58] konqueror in Hardy is quite old and not quite a good broswer back then :) [03:59] never been [03:59] i don't know why they even still use konkeror [04:00] so basically this playonlinux is like wine? [04:01] it is actually a decent browser these days [04:02] playon linux is using wine to do whatever is needed to install IE as well as other things [04:02] ok [04:02] its just a graphical way of doing it as iirc it is rather complicated process to do manually [04:03] well is is installing it [04:03] it download whatever it needs to do so, including wine itself [04:03] so once it finish installing i run playonlinux to install IE? [04:03] I used it last week thinking a site wasn't looking good in ff, konq, etc [04:04] but it was just a poorly written site that didn't work well in IE either :) [04:04] yes, and other things as well tho I did not use it for anything else [04:05] that's actually my thinkng as well [04:06] i only need to get that web page working properly [04:06] luis_: how old is your computer? My laptop is 7+ year old p4 and it runs KDE 4 quite well [04:06] but i do have 1gb ram [04:07] does anyone experience jumping of mouse cursor in kde 4.6 rc2 ? [04:07] hopefully i can upgrade to somethin olny 3 or 4 years old soon [04:08] claydoh: i have the same config [04:08] phoenix_firebrd: I don't have any cursor probs [04:08] claydoh: how much is your internel graphics card memory [04:08] phoenix_firebrd: 8mb radeon [04:09] claydoh: kde 4.6 rc2? [04:09] ok [04:09] phoenix_firebrd: yes, using Natty [04:09] the latest kubuntu [04:09] i hae installed [04:09] and it runs kind of ok [04:09] but for some reason it keeps shooting down on itself after certain time [04:10] that's why i went back to hardy [04:10] claydoh: my cursor sometimes jumps when it reaches the left corners [04:11] cause it doesn¿t like to be on the spot :P lol [04:11] luis_: can you define certain time [04:11] like every 15 minutes [04:11] luis_: what version of kde? [04:11] good qustion [04:12] what do you mean [04:12] kde the one that comes with the latest kubuntu [04:12] i have here de iso [04:12] let me see it [04:12] luis_: open the file browser dolphin, goto menu ->help->about kde [04:13] luis_: there you can see the kde version [04:13] phoenix_firebrd: he's on hardy, so that will result in 3.5 [04:13] yofel: i am asking about the one he used before that [04:13] phoenix_firebrd: when I put my cursor to the left corner of my screen, it does the 'present windows effect' :) as it is supposed to do by default [04:14] phoenix_firebrd: sure, but he'll have to reboot into that for your instructions [04:14] 3.5.10 [04:14] thats what i have now [04:14] claydoh: i never heard of the prevent window effect [04:15] phoenix_firebrd: hah present windows rather [04:15] and the one i did actually installed because i want it to have the latest was: 10.04 LTS [04:15] you tried 10.04 lts right? [04:15] luis_: you tried 10.04 lts right? [04:15] but with this last one my computer keeps shooting down like every 15 minutes [04:15] even when installing it this i notice was happening [04:16] imo 10.10 is better quality in terms of KDE version [04:16] let's see [04:16] claydoh: +1 [04:16] luis_: try 10.10 [04:16] * claydoh snoozes, have to get up and move snow in the AM :( [04:17] claydoh: snow? [04:17] don't have that [04:17] but one thing i can tell you [04:17] i even try debian507 [04:17] thats the lates [04:17] luis_: where did you get the 10.04 image? [04:18] on kubuntu webpage [04:19] luis_: try downloading the latest kubuntu version ie., 10.10 and try it [04:19] you know [04:19] i have been thinking [04:19] luis_: the kde in 10.10 is much faster and stable [04:19] maybe is the kde [04:19] faster? [04:20] i like that [04:20] luis_: very fast [04:20] let me ask you this [04:20] have you try debian? [04:20] luis_: no [04:20] phoenix_firebrd: yes, snow. it is winter here :) [04:20] 'nite! [04:20] it feels so light [04:20] but when browsing [04:21] any aplication runs really fast and smoth on my computer [04:21] but if i go surfing on the web turns to slow [04:21] but i like what you say about the latest kubuntu [04:22] but do you think my coimputer will handle it? [04:22] let me see my computer features [04:22] luis_: debian's main aim is stablity. but the downside is that the proprietary drivers are not packaged [04:22] that is true [04:23] the only way to get the lates kubuntu is burning the iso [04:23] well [04:23] another question [04:23] luis_: mine computer config is p4 3.0 ghz, 1 gb ram and nvidia 9400gt 512 mb, works great for me [04:23] let me tell you mine features [04:24] luis_: you can always order the cd, but can you wait till that [04:26] intel pentium 4 cpu 2.40 Ghz cache size 512 KB [04:27] luis_: my brother's system is the same one. kubuntu 10.10 works fine [04:28] ok [04:28] now [04:28] yep, I have a p4 2.54GHz with 1GiB RAM and an nvidia 6 and it runs 10.10 fine [04:28] my RAM is half of it [04:28] no nvidia [04:28] yofel: thats kubuntu [04:29] phoenix_firebrd: yes [04:30] luis_: kubuntu 10.10's minimum required ram is 256 [04:31] luis_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes === Guest51835 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest33045 [04:32] wow [04:32] than i have another question [04:32] as you know there's this adept manager and it always tells me if i want to upgrade [04:33] luis_: sure it wil [04:33] is there a way to do the upgrade to kubuntu10.10 from hardy? on terminal? [04:33] not directly. You have to go from 8.04 -> 10.04, and then to 10.10 [04:33] luis_: i think it is possible, but i wont recommend [04:33] cause terminal is faster i think [04:34] so best think is to make a fresh install [04:34] luis_: ya [04:34] i got that [04:35] so you are actually telling me that this new kubuntu is way better than the former ones? lucis and karmic? that is also lighter than the former ones? [04:36] luis_: there is a new feature called, caching that is used by the latest kde makes it very fast [04:36] mmm i like that [04:37] luis_: on jan 26 kde 4.6 is going to be released [04:38] well i think that kde4 is heavy for my computer and that is why with the new version gets slower and also shoot down on its own [04:38] but this kde4.6 is going to be lighter acording to what you are telling me right? [04:38] luis_: check you ram [04:39] how do i check my ram? [04:39] luis_: when you run the live cd, at the boot menu, there will be an option called , memory test, use that and check for any ram defects [04:40] ooo but that takes ages [04:40] i did that once [04:40] never finished [04:40] i stop my computer [04:40] luis_: i think it wont finish [04:40] i left it all night long [04:40] luis_: run it for certain time and see it it reports any data loss [04:41] so how do i know if it doesn¿t give a report sorry but for this matters i think i am a little stupid [04:41] certain time like minutes or hours? [04:42] luis_: read this .http://www.memtest.org/ [04:42] luis_: try for 20 or 30 min [04:42] ok [04:42] luis_: or what ever the above link says [04:44] luis_: see that if the application reports something like 'data lost' [04:44] i see [04:45] luis_: i got to go now, bye [04:46] thank you very much [04:46] take care === IdleOne is now known as gpc [05:28] how do you select which sound card you want to use in 10.04 [05:30] kind of odd to have an irc channel with 220 people in it but nobody talking === Guest33045 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest28269 === gapura is now known as WiraMegaAdicita === machine__ is now known as tuxampol === Guest28269 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest57592 [07:24] Hi guys, is anyone else experiencing this bug on Kubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/701527 [07:24] Ubuntu bug 701527 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "Some Qt applications freezes Plasma-shell on start with plasma-widget-menubar enabled" [Undecided,New] [07:26] That bug is really making my experience a nightmare. === bananaman is now known as ManOfCloth === Guest57592 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest21674 === Guest21674 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest81402 === sean is now known as Guest68001 === Guest68001 is now known as SeanT === SeanT is now known as skorj === skorj is now known as secris === Guest81402 is now known as RaNdY === RaNdY is now known as Guest33269 === SeanT is now known as AngelusMortis [10:29] Hello all [10:34] Aparted from gparted what other partition editors are available for Kubuntu 10.10 [10:35] mandla: kparted === Guest33269 is now known as RaNdY [10:35] phoenix_firebrd: is it available in apt-get repos? === RaNdY is now known as Guest35242 [10:36] mandla: no [10:36] phoenix_firebrd: How to i install it? [10:36] partitionmanager [10:37] afaik is already installed in 10.10 [10:38] valorie: thanx [10:38] mandla: try this "partition manager" in apt and see if it is installed [10:38] mandla: this will be helpfull to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_partitioning_software [10:39] phoenix_firebrd: yah its installing, thanx [10:39] mandla: welcome [10:40] valorie: do you have gparted [10:40] phoenix_firebrd: so i can format my external HDD with it? [10:40] phoenix_firebrd: gparted is not stable in 10.10 [10:40] mandla: you can [10:40] mandla: ya thats the problem [10:44] no, gparted would be a gnome app [10:44] not installed on my system [10:45] kparted doesn't exist anymore, I don't think [10:45] partitionmanager is the new app [10:46] hmmm, but I'm wrong, it isn't installed by default [10:46] sorry for the wrong info [10:46] hello [10:46] could kubuntu run fluid in pentium4 with 1gb ram? [10:48] HackeMate: mine has the same configuration p4 3.0ghz 1 gb ram, kubuntu 10.10 works fine for me [10:48] HackeMate: what is the gpu? [10:49] an intregated one [10:49] intel i believe [10:49] not gamer computer, just an office one [10:49] HackeMate: the desktop effects wont be nice. so disable it [10:50] else will be ok? [10:50] HackeMate: you can do some tweaks to make it faster [10:50] i dont mind too much about effects [10:50] oh, good [10:50]