[00:01] <szh> I just installed Lubuntu, and I love it so far. The only problem is that the volume is way too loud, even when I set it to about 1%.
[00:05] <Timo_> szh: can you go to the terminal and then to
[00:05] <Timo_> 'alsamixer', then try to lower the volume thetre
[00:06] <szh> Timo: Which column should I change?
[00:07] <szh> "Master" is already low
[00:08] <szh> Timo: I lowered "Master M" and now it works! Thanks a lot!
[00:09] <Timo_> no problem! Enjoy Lubuntu ;)
[00:09] <Timo_> if I may make a suggestion (or call it advertising / propaganda :D) if you want a fully featured and powerful music player
[00:09] <Timo_> try Gnome Music Player Client (it's not dependent on gnome) www.gmpclient.org
[00:10] <Timo_> it's really good \ using less resources than the standard music player in lubuntu but has way more functionality :)
[00:10] <szh> Okay. I'll try that out. Music helps me work better.
[00:11] <Timo_> hehe - I'm also playing music now, I loveit :)
[00:11] <Timo_> oh and if you like a chat, #lubuntu-offtopic is a great channel to hang out. A lot of nice guys who help you out with all sorts of things + are nice chasp to have a chat with
[00:11] <hajour> W:Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
[00:11] <hajour> , W:Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/dists/maverick/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
[00:11] <hajour> , W:Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/dists/maverick/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
[00:11] <hajour> , W:Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/dists/maverick/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
[00:11] <Timo_> people* (ladies/gentlemen!)
[00:11] <hajour> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[00:12] <Timo_> hajour: try pastebin next time :P
[00:12] <hajour> i cant
[00:12] <hajour> i just said
[00:12] <Timo_> oh ye sorry, *facepalm*
[00:12] <hajour> i cant use webbrowser
[00:13] <hajour> this is what i get see lines above ^^
[00:14] <hajour> and then its staying nagging about something from perl every time
[00:14] <Timo_> well I guess the chromium repo is down. Which is why you can't update
[00:14] <Timo_> but your webbrowser is not working as well, I assume you are using Chromium as webbrowser?
[00:14] <hajour> i already have this 12 days
[00:14] <hajour> yes
[00:15] <hajour> but i also noot can use firefox
[00:15] <hajour> noot=not
[00:15] <hajour> screen freeze then
[00:17] <Timo_> mmm that;s odd
[00:17] <Timo_> maybe send an e-amil to the lubuntu list?
[00:17] <hajour> mm how
[00:17] <hajour> i cant use webbrowser
[00:18] <Timo_> well I personally use an e-mail client to send emails :P
[00:18] <Timo_> doesn't UndiFineD know how to solve it:?
[00:19] <hajour> he just started new job 13 hurs away in day he then eat ans then sleep
[00:19] <hajour> hours
[00:20] <Timo_> aah he has a new job! That's great news!
[00:21] <Timo_> aah I now read it in his wiki :)
[00:21] <Timo_> that must be a great relief! :)
[00:21] <hajour> well  i just go on this way and then hold crost fingers the eeepc wl hold long enough but anyway thanks for looking Timo_  :)
[00:21] <hajour> yes it is :)
[00:22] <Timo_> hajour: can't you try to sudo apt-get install opera ?
[00:22] <Timo_> opera is quite a nice browser ;D
[00:23] <hajour> i can try if the package manager will download because thats 1 of the problems
[00:23] <Timo_> well if your package manager doens't work and your brower doesn't work
[00:23] <Timo_> you're system must be quite borked :P
[00:23] <hajour> tell me about it
[00:24] <hajour> i already have reinstall 2 times
[00:29] <bencahill> hey guys, after doing updates on a fresh install of 10.10, my install will not boot :( it hangs after /scripts/init-bottom (or fsck after that if it was last shutdown hard) any ideas?
[01:15] <ecc> i have an eee t101mt, is there a site you recommend for addons, upgrades? a site you can mail it to where they work on it?
[01:22] <Lord_Rahl> I just install lubuntu 10.04. for some resaon the volume setting is grayed out
[01:24] <Lord_Rahl> anyone know what that program is?
[01:29] <Lord_Rahl> guess not :(
[01:34] <ecc> i wish i knew the program name for touchscreen calibrater
[02:24] <gnewb> Hello
[03:11] <gnewb> Hello
[03:11]  * KM0201 is interested in this solution :)
[03:11] <gnewb> Have you tried the Alternate install?
[03:12] <bencahill> gnewb: yep
[03:12] <bencahill> KM0201: lol :)
[03:12] <gnewb> OK, have you tried !#?
[03:12] <KM0201> crunchbang?... lol, thats your solution
[03:12] <KM0201> lol
[03:12] <gnewb> Is a hardware test thing
[03:13] <KM0201> gnewb: if it has faild on ubuntu, and lubuntu.. i'd say the chance of failure w/ crunchbang, which runs on the ubuntu kernel, is a near certainty.
[03:14] <gnewb> Just to see if the hardware is correct. I run !# and Lubuntu on my old Desktop, is flawless and the responce times are amazing.
[03:14] <gnewb> No, !# is now on the Debian kernel.
[03:14] <KM0201> gnewb: now that i wasn't aware of.
[03:14] <gnewb> Statler 10
[03:14] <KM0201> i still don't think thats the way to go about this though...
[03:15] <KM0201> i think he's doing the right thing by downloading Fedor
[03:15] <KM0201> *fedora
[03:15] <gnewb> Fedora or PC-BSD
[03:15] <gnewb> They are both rather heavy weights.
[03:15] <bencahill> KM0201: i suppose if fedora works, then i'll get experience with it as well, always a good thing :)
[03:16] <KM0201> bencahill: fedora is OK if you like the RH side of things
[03:17] <bencahill> KM0201: i'm still very new to linux (used win all my life), so i don't really have much of an opinion either way...my brother is a rhce, and he still installed ubuntu on our proxy server (over fc, which is what it was back then)
[03:18] <gnewb> CentOS is a good distro, there are many lightweight ones, I only suggested PC-BSD because of its almost no translation in the switch.
[03:19] <gnewb> I like this Lubuntu, am liking it more every day.
[08:55] <charliemac> How does Ubuntu/Lubuntu compare with Knoppix, RedHat, DSL (DamSmalLinux), and Mint?
[09:02] <bioterror> you tell us
[09:02] <bioterror> lubuntu works really closely with LXDE, so we have a advantage
[09:03] <charliemac> I
[09:05] <charliemac> I've never tried any of these, I just want it both very efficient and very basic, with plenty of room to expand/enhance/develop with more capabilities as I decide I want it to do more.
[09:17] <bioterror> charliemac, you have to try those and choose which one is best for your usage
[09:17] <bioterror> I like mcfeast, someone likes whopper and another one likes bigmac
[09:18] <bioterror> and fourth one likes quarter pounder with cheese :D
[09:23] <head_victim> I use dsl for pc's older than P4s, I use Lubuntu on P4s and Gnome Ubuntu on newer than P4s.
[09:24] <charliemac> Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 532 supporting HT Technology  (1M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 533 MHz FSB) is the processer on my notebook.
[09:27] <head_victim> Well that would do great on Lubuntu
[09:32] <charliemac> 32 bit or 64 bit?
[09:34] <head_victim> Depends, is the CPU 32 or 64 bit? If the cpu is 64 bit then no reason not to use it.
[09:38] <charliemac> Can Pentium 4 532 HT support the 64-bit ubuntu?
[09:40] <head_victim> Not sure sorry mate, I will have to google it.
[09:40] <head_victim> According to http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27368 it's only 32bit
[09:49] <charliemac> That's true...  But <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit> seems to suggest that a Pentium 4 "Prescott" works...
[09:54] <charliemac> How does OpenSUSE with LXDE compare with Lubuntu?
[10:18] <head_victim> charliemac: well try it, if it doesn't work then it's definitely 32
[10:20] <charliemac> head_victim:  Thanks, that makes sense ;)
[10:21] <charliemac> Well since I've already downloaded the 32, is there any way to double check the processor's identity within the OS/DE?
[10:38] <head_victim> Go to a terminal and type "lshw -class cpu" without the " and look for what it says beside width
[10:55] <Ak1ra> ok so i'm pretty sure lxdm won't allow for switching between multiple runnign sessions between users, but can lxdm be setup similar to xdm in taht you might create as many login screens on different VT's as you want? :)
[10:57] <Ak1ra> if you answer me, PLEASE message vivaceious instead as my non-sleeping computer is on irc on that name, but NOT in #lubuntu :-/
[11:51] <head_victim> So how do I put an icon on the Lubuntu panel so that when it's clicked it runs a bash script?
[11:52] <charliemac_> can I install Lubuntu in such a way that It overwrites windows through some sort of boot disk??
[11:53] <head_victim> charliemac_: it depends what option you choose when you're installing Lubuntu. If you haven't done it before and want to get rid of everything when it asks about partitioning choose "guided, use entire disk" but only if you're sure you don't need ANYTHING on that drive EVER again
[11:54] <charliemac_> How do I get to that point where it will let me choose?
[11:54] <bioterror> install
[11:54] <bioterror> you will see :D
[11:56] <charliemac_> I'm not sure how to begin the installation... Currently my laptop is setting up windows xp - detecting and installing devices such as keyboard and mouse, something I don't want it to.
[11:56] <head_victim> charliemac_: some info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation has links to the alternate installer informatino as well
[11:56] <head_victim> bioterror: any idea on the panel icon to launch a bash script?
[11:56] <bioterror> put that script into /usr/local/bin
[11:56] <bioterror> and point .desktop -file to it
[11:56] <bioterror> ?
[11:58] <bioterror> does it make any sense? :D
[11:58] <head_victim> Is that on the panel or desktop though
[11:58] <bioterror> depends
[11:58] <bioterror> you can put it to panel?
[11:59] <head_victim> I don't get what you're saying theer
[11:59] <head_victim> there*
[11:59] <charliemac_> I somehow began restoring WinXP on my laptop, whereas I wanted to reformat the hard drive using Lubuntu.  Is there any way I can abort this proccess ("Application Installer" currently underway...)
[11:59] <bioterror> put that script into /usr/local/bin/
[11:59] <bioterror> and make a foooo.desktop to /usr/share/applications/
[12:00] <head_victim> charliemac_: if you're trying to install Lubuntu you should have the Lubuntu CD in the drive not the windows one
[12:01] <head_victim> bioterror: OOHHH and then add the application launcher?
[12:01] <charliemac_> I have no CD's in the drive, it was supposed to load from the "Restoration" HD partition
[12:01] <bioterror> head_victim, yeah
[12:01] <bioterror> head_victim, that's what i would try to do :P
[12:01] <charliemac_> lol, sorry to interrupt!  ;)
[12:01] <head_victim> Ah ok sounded like a bit of hassle but if it's the only way that's cool I'll give it a shot
[12:01] <bioterror> but I've been too lazy to add my urxvt to panel
[12:02] <head_victim> charliemac_: no dramas I'm trying to set up this Lubuntu for my wife
[12:02] <JoeMaverickSett> do you guys experience change of workspace when you use scroll buton on the mouse even when you're in a window and trying to scroll that application?
[12:02] <head_victim> JoeMaverickSett: I did for AGES, no idea what fixed it.
[12:02] <head_victim> I played around with a few rc settings and it's gone
[12:02] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: :|
[12:02] <head_victim> I cannot for the life of me remember what I changed though
[12:02] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: i thought you're the documenter? :P
[12:03] <bioterror> :D
[12:03] <head_victim> JoeMaverickSett: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46836 is in my favourites though so it might be useful
[12:03] <charliemac_> No dramas here, just being polite
[12:03] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: hehe, ok. i'll check. :D
[12:06] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: insert the lubuntu CD, restart the pc, press F12, boot from CD ROM. install Lubuntu, use the whole partition if you don't need Win XP. :D
[12:08] <charliemac> What if I'm trying to install ubuntu from the previously external hard drive which now has Lubuntu's ISO unpacked as the contents of the recovery partition?
[12:09] <charliemac> with no CD rom?
[12:09] <head_victim> bioterror: so I copy foo.sh to /usr/local/bin/ and then make a foo.desktop file in /usr/share/applications ?
[12:19] <head_victim> bioterror: what do I do to make it actually execute :/
[12:19] <head_victim> I have the icon there now but whenever I click it nothing happens
[12:20] <head_victim> I have tried various forms in the Exec= line but can't get it to work (also no idea how to give it a proper icon)
[12:26] <bioterror> head_victim, sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/script
[12:31] <head_victim> bioterror: got it working but no icon
[12:31] <head_victim> I can live without that for now
[12:31] <bioterror> well
[12:31] <bioterror> you can specify icon
[12:31] <bioterror> :D
[12:31] <head_victim> Is it just in the foo.desktop and if so is it like "Icon=/path/to/icon" or is that too easy
[12:32] <bioterror> Icon=lxterminal
[12:33] <head_victim> Can I specify any file as the icon?
[12:33] <bioterror> what ever you like
[12:33] <head_victim> so if I just put the part to the icon in the "Icon=/path/to/icon" it should work?
[12:33] <bioterror> hmmm
[12:34] <head_victim> or does it specify a place already and I just have to pick one of them or add my icon to that location??
[12:34] <bioterror> if you look other .desktop files
[12:34] <bioterror> it doesnt specify a path
[12:39] <head_victim> nope but I tried "Icon=/path/to/icon" and it works
[12:39] <head_victim> I'm awesome or something :D
[12:40] <head_victim> All this is exciting because it means my wife will be using Lubuntu (I've been trying for 5 years or more to get her to use anything *buntu but she has resisted)
[12:41] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: yay! :D /me can't convert my sis or friends. :|
[12:45] <bioterror> my wife has een using ubuntu since 2005
[12:45] <bioterror> :D
[12:46] <head_victim> Yeah but her dad is a HUGE windows man so it's taken a while
[12:46] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: lucky you. :D
[12:50] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, well, it wasnt that hard
[12:50] <szh> In Gnome MPlayer, I changed the default mixer to "Master Mono,0", and after that the volume is much lower, even when I changed it back to "Master,0".
[12:51] <bioterror> szh, try alsamixer
[12:51] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: hard for me. they think it's for geeks. :D
[12:51] <bioterror> and change settings
[12:51] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, tell them that it's like OS X with being a... ;D
[12:52] <JoeMaverickSett> haha :D
[12:52] <szh> The sound is much quieter, but it's at the same level as it was before.
[12:53] <szh> I need to make it much louder for it to be even a normal volume.
[12:55] <szh> Also, how can I change the default channel on the volume control in the bottom right of the screen to Master Mono?
[13:00] <head_victim> To me linux is about being able to fiddle with stuff until it's how I like it. My wife just doesn't care about playing with it all.
[13:02] <bioterror> for me linux is just fixing broken things :D
[13:02] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[13:02] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: linux is both for me. :P
[13:02] <JoeMaverickSett> fixing and fiddling. :D
[13:03] <bioterror> always something broken and trying to find a solution or round that problem somehow
[13:03] <bioterror> duct tape and iron wire :D
[13:03] <bioterror> szh, I'm not really that much into sound cards and stuff like that, but mono sounds like you like your sounds without stereo
[13:04] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: how is the FAQ doc comming along? did you add the how to make the search box in synaptics come back? ;D
[13:05] <bioterror> been lazy as the wiki is slow
[13:05] <bioterror> so is forum
[13:05] <JoeMaverickSett> haha :D
[13:05] <bioterror> poorly working websites just makes me loose my motivation
[13:05] <bioterror> but other wise the faq is okay
[13:06] <bioterror> I just should add more stuff but, lazy
[13:06] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: should i do it for ya? with my overly slow internet? :P
[13:07] <bioterror> well, if two slow things meets each other, they might transpond to something fast
[13:07] <JoeMaverickSett> yeah. :D
[13:08] <bioterror> I can dig the url for you
[13:08] <bioterror> before I go-go :D
[13:09] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[13:09] <bioterror> but I'm off to see doctah
[13:09] <bioterror> laters ;)
[13:31] <charliemac> Is there any way to install Lubuntu without a CD rom or large-capacity USB flash drive?
[13:35] <head_v> charliemac: just use a usb thumb drive, only needs to be about 1gb
[13:37] <charliemac> head_victim: I do have a 1 gb thumb drive.  How can I confrim the ISO before loading it onto the thumb drive through windows os, or is that necessary?
[13:38] <charliemac> Is UNetbootin better than VirtualCloneDrive?
[13:38] <szh> Is there a way to make Ctrl + Alt + T open the terminal like in the regular Ubuntu?
[13:39] <head_victim> charliemac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows
[13:39] <bioterror> szh, sure you can bind it
[13:39] <head_victim> szh: mine does, not sure if I made it do that or not
[13:40] <head_victim> Or is it control shift t?
[13:40] <bioterror> szh, edit lubuntu.rc
[13:40] <szh> Where's the file located?
[13:41] <bioterror> .config/openbox or somrthing like that
[13:41] <bioterror> cant check it for you as im sitting in a car atm
[13:45] <szh> Is it possible to change the volume control channel?
[13:49] <bioterror> szh, use alsamixer for that :D
[13:50] <szh> That's too bad. It's much more convenient to just click mixer icon. Oh well :(
[13:50] <bioterror> hmm
[13:50] <bioterror> yeah
[13:51] <bioterror> tweak it so that others are maximumor somrthing and the icon on systray is the one that changes output level
[13:51] <bioterror> :D
[13:53] <szh> Whenever a program tries to open a folder, it opens with Google Chrome (my default browser). How can I set it to open with the file manager?
[13:53] <bioterror> check my faq
[13:53] <bioterror> i pasted it earlier
[13:54] <bioterror> theres a tweak for using pcmanfm
[13:55] <JoeMaverickSett> szh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[13:55] <bioterror> that chrome section
[13:59] <szh> Thanks! That worked
[14:00] <bioterror> szh, http://www.ihighfive.com/
[14:04] <szh> Lubuntu is great! :)
[14:04] <bioterror> yeah when you get it tweaked fine
[14:04] <szh> Yup
[14:04] <bioterror> you dont look at other buntus anymoar
[14:05] <szh> Linux => Debian => Ubutnu => Lubuntu --- It's a long chain
[14:05] <charliemac> How can I boot from a flash usb when the drive shows up in neither my BIOS nor boot menus?
[14:06] <bioterror> you can boot from bios
[14:06] <bioterror> if your computer supports
[14:06] <charliemac> The only options listed are CD-ROM, Floppy, Hard disk, and Network...
[14:06] <bioterror> youre the only one who knows this situation and who can boot it up
[14:06] <bioterror> check your bios
[14:07] <charliemac> That
[14:07] <szh> How old is your computer?
[14:08] <charliemac> is in bios, whereas in boot menu only cd-rom and hard disk are availible options.  I bought this computer in 2006, and it has only run winxp, so far...
[14:10] <szh> Why don't you boot from a CD?
[14:23] <head_victim> JoeMaverickSett: who's the documentor NOW huh!
[14:24] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: actually it's not me who wrote that. i just said that i'd correct it. ;D
[14:24] <head_victim> JoeMaverickSett: we'll make you a wiki guru yet
[14:24] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: aye sir! been waiting for that day. :P
[14:25] <head_victim> Hah all it takes is time doing stuff
[14:25] <head_victim> And knowing who you can pester to get information you need
[14:25] <JoeMaverickSett> head_victim: but mind you, i'm lazy. :P
[14:25] <head_victim> Heh me to
[14:26] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe :D
[15:20] <joris> Is there somebody here who is using a encrypted home directory with lubuntu?
[15:21] <head_victim> joris: I'm not but I've heard others with issues
[15:21] <joris> Ok thanks for your response
[15:22] <joris> It is strange, because it is working when I log out and log in
[15:22] <joris> but it fails when I reboot and login
[15:22] <joris> I can then login from the command line, but this is inconvenient
[15:25] <head_victim> Ah I think I read something on the forums about that a while ago
[15:25] <charliemac> Szh: Looks like my computer is from 2005 <http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-7330gz-mobile-pentium/1707-3121_7-31477979.html>.  I don't want to boot from a cd because I don't know how to confirm the downloaded ISO in the first place, I am a little confused by the description in the documentation <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckCD>...
[15:25] <head_victim> I have to head off for a while myself but I'd search the forum
[15:25] <head_victim> charliemac: booting from a CD is the same as booting from the USB it's just a different medium
[15:26] <charliemac> How can I check the ISO through windows vista?
[15:27] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[15:28] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: that guide includes how to check MD5SUM on Windows
[15:28] <joris> head_victim ubuntu forums?
[15:29] <JoeMaverickSett> joris: you could probably search the forum, located at ubuntuforums.org :)
[15:29] <joris> yeah i
[15:29] <joris> I already did that
[15:29] <charliemac> JoeMaverickSett:  Would I need to burn the CD without checking the ISO first and then check them both through checking the CD after its finished burning?
[15:31] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: check it before you burn it that way you could download another if it's wrong and saves you a CD. :)
[15:31] <charliemac> Agreed :)
[15:33] <szh> How can I add items to the Main Menu?
[15:36] <joris> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660425&highlight=encrypted+home exactly my issue except there is no solution :/
[15:36] <JoeMaverickSett> szh: try this post; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896355
[15:38] <szh> Thanks
[15:38] <JoeMaverickSett> szh: this wiki also does it, i think; http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[15:44] <charliemac> Where do I find the correct  data required to run the Md5Sum on the Lubuntu 10.10 ISO?
[15:44] <joris> I am amazed this encryption home directory issue is not an issue for more people. Lubuntu seems perfect for netbooks and an encrypted home directory makes so much sense
[15:48] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: do you mean the md5sum of the lubuntu ISO? if so it's at; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/CheckCD
[15:49] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: according to the guide on how to check the md5sum earlier, key in the md5sum from the site i gave you above in "compare" box i believe.
[15:51] <charliemac> I downloaded the Lubuntu ISO from Lubuntu.net, but when I sent that to WinMd5Sum, it gave me a different value than the 098254aeb0153b10bcfce948c43a0df6 which is listed on the site to which you referred me.
[15:53] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: look at the above link i gave you, if you downloded 10.10, i believe it's same, i could even match yours and the one on the website.
[15:55] <vivaceious> is it possible to set lxdm up in such a way that would mimic the functioning of xdm in starting login sessions on multiple VT's ?
[15:58] <charliemac> JoeMaverickSett:  I looked at both of the links you shared with me <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM>, and <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/CheckCD>, but I must be oversimplifying things because when I sent the ISO that i got from lubuntu.net to winmd5sum the answer was "fef33677921f6cb8969147fb4d034af8"
[15:59] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: hhmm, okie i read the above sum as yours, sorry.
[16:00] <charliemac> Which would be the correct sum?  I haven't been able to locate the correct value as a means of comparison/confirmation.
[16:01] <JoeMaverickSett> charliemac: where did you download that iso from?
[16:01] <charliemac> This was right at <Lubuntu.net>
[16:03] <charliemac> And it took around an hour to download completely, is that typical?
[16:35] <charliemac> I got my ISO striagt from Lubuntu.net, and it's not a match to the corresponding md5sum at <http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt>...  :[
[18:34] <phillw> charliemac: you are always better using the torrent link. I have nothing to do with lubuntu.net, so have no idea what link they have. The torrent link is pretty darn quick, my server is the secondary source - but that is somewhat throttled as it is a shared server.
[19:51] <joris> I asked this already earlier but since I don't get it fixed. Are there people here running lubuntu with an encrypted home directory?
[19:52] <MrChrisDruif> joris: I believe there is a mention about that on either the wiki or lubuntu's site :)
[19:52] <MrChrisDruif> It's was one of lubuntu known bugs afaik...
[19:53] <joris> oh really.. I didn't see that, thanks!
[19:54] <joris> That rules out the possibility of me doing something wrong then...
[22:55] <phillw> bug 1
[23:00] <cphuntington97> so I installed lubuntu recently...
[23:02] <cphuntington97> all around amazing release
[23:02] <cphuntington97> just one catch... I installed to "use entire disk" on sdc
[23:03] <cphuntington97> and yet, bootloader was installed on sda
[23:03] <cphuntington97> I was not prompted or anything - is this normal behavior?
[23:04] <cphuntington97> and if so ,what is an appropriate way to voice my disapproval?
[23:33] <cphuntington97> anyone?
[23:41] <kristian-aalborg> cphuntington97: I don't know if it's default behaviour, but I think you can salvage it from a live cd?
[23:41] <cphuntington97> it's fine...
[23:41] <cphuntington97> but I just don't think it's good behavior
[23:42] <kristian-aalborg> I've had grub act weird as well
[23:42] <cphuntington97> I've been trying tons of distros, and each one has explicitly asked where to put the bootloader
[23:42] <cphuntington97> this is the first time I wasn't asked, warned, nothing... it just went right to sda
[23:42] <kristian-aalborg> I'm not a developer, so I can't really comment on what's a feature and what's a bug :)
[23:44] <cphuntington97> one of the catches is, on my netbook, grub is in rescue mode when the linux boot partition (which is on an sd card) is not in the machine. this was formally an xp partition but the bootloader was overwritten. it will still boot with grub so long as the sd card with linux is in the machine. it's minor inconvenience - I'll run fixboot and fixmbr on it, and it'll be back to normal. but my main gripe is not so much with grub's be
[23:45] <cphuntington97> it was a big surprise to have sda overwritten after an install to sdc
[23:47] <cphuntington97> should I file a bug report? it's probably not meant to be a bug, it's probably meant to help clueless users... but in my opinion the installer has overstepped its bounds
[23:54] <cphuntington97> but thanks for responding kristian-aalborg
[23:57] <kristian-aalborg> cphuntington97: I guess you could post it on ubuntuforums?
[23:57] <kristian-aalborg> phillw: ping?