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| * ogra points at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/ and dances | 12:09 | |
| sveinse | Have anyone any experience with PulseAudio on any omap target (outside of X11)? | 12:16 |
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| sveinse | I'm having troubles starting it | 12:16 |
| === marvin24_ is now known as marvin24 | ||
| rsalveti | sveinse: well, we're using it for both beagle and panda | 12:44 |
| sveinse | from X11 then? | 12:45 |
| rsalveti | for panda you just need to update to latest kernel available at updates | 12:45 |
| rsalveti | sveinse: the daemon is not started at x11 | 12:45 |
| sveinse | ok. when and how? | 12:45 |
| rsalveti | hm, ok, it's configured and started per user session | 12:48 |
| rsalveti | you have the init script but it's not used | 12:48 |
| rsalveti | sveinse: how are you trying to load it | 12:48 |
| rsalveti | ? | 12:48 |
| sveinse | rsalveti: That my Q as well. I have no idea how I should do it, or how Ubuntu wants me to start it | 12:50 |
| sveinse | rsalveti: But I do have problems manually (command line) start PA, because it stop at some ALSA enumeation which seems to be off | 12:51 |
| rsalveti | which board? | 12:52 |
| sveinse | Custom HW, based on OMAP3530 with custom 8ch audio chip. It's fully possible that our ALSA driver has bugs. | 12:53 |
| sveinse | However cmdline ALSA playback works, while PA wont start | 12:53 |
| sveinse | rsalveti: What happens if you run (as unprivileged user) pulseaudio --daemonize on any omap target you might have? | 12:55 |
| sveinse | Because that is the recommended way to start PA as user according to the PA docs | 12:56 |
| rsalveti | just a sec | 12:56 |
| sveinse | rsalveti: You need to out of X11 I think | 12:59 |
| rsalveti | yup, np | 12:59 |
| sveinse | ok | 13:00 |
| sveinse | What happens if you run: | 13:01 |
| sveinse | strace -e trace=open -f -o strace.log pulseaudio | 13:01 |
| sveinse | cat strace.log |grep /etc/pulse | 13:01 |
| sveinse | 2391 open("/etc/pulse/daemon.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 | 13:02 |
| sveinse | 2391 open("/etc/pulse/default.pa", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 8 | 13:02 |
| sveinse | It shouldn't read daemon.conf when running as unprivileged user.... It should read client.conf instead | 13:02 |
| * rsalveti booting his panda in text mode only | 13:06 | |
| rsalveti | sveinse: pulseaudio --daemonize works fine at panda | 13:08 |
| rsalveti | at least it seems to be running | 13:08 |
| sveinse | good | 13:08 |
| sveinse | kill it and try the strace, if you please | 13:08 |
| rsalveti | sure | 13:09 |
| rsalveti | yup, also reading daemon.conf and default.pa | 13:10 |
| sveinse | Hmm. That could be a bug -- or an intended feature | 13:10 |
| rsalveti | probably a feature | 13:10 |
| rsalveti | maybe it first try to load the system configuration, then load the user one | 13:11 |
| rsalveti | as default | 13:11 |
| sveinse | strange. conflicts with PA docs at least | 13:11 |
| rsalveti | hm | 13:11 |
| rsalveti | pulseaudio --dump-conf | 13:12 |
| rsalveti | you'll see that it loads the daemon.conf | 13:12 |
| sveinse | At least you helped me confirm that this is not only my system, so thanks! | 13:12 |
| rsalveti | ~/.pulse/daemon.conf, /etc/pulse/daemon.conf: configuration settings for the PulseAudio daemon. If the version in the user's home directory does not exist the global configuration file is loaded. See pulse-daemon.conf(5) for | 13:12 |
| rsalveti | more information. | 13:12 |
| rsalveti | from man page | 13:13 |
| sveinse | yeah. Check out man pulse-client.conf When is this loaded then? ;) | 13:14 |
| sveinse | No point in the file if it doesn't load the config IMHO | 13:14 |
| rsalveti | maybe just loaded by pulse clients | 13:15 |
| rsalveti | and not the daemon itself | 13:15 |
| sveinse | perhaps. at least it seems to be consistent with host (amd64) maverick behaviour | 13:15 |
| rsalveti | yup, cames from libpulse0 package | 13:15 |
| sveinse | At least I'm getting somewhere, so thanks rsalveti! | 13:17 |
| sveinse | ..now to trace the real cause of pulseaudio refusal to start | 13:18 |
| rsalveti | probably related with the audio config file for your board | 13:20 |
| rsalveti | at least this was what was breaking for panda | 13:20 |
| sveinse | I see PA reports wrong samplerate and channels when detecting the ALSA devices. | 13:21 |
| sveinse | Perhaps there are some sample-info metadata missing from the driver | 13:21 |
| rsalveti | could be too | 13:21 |
| sveinse | do you know of a way to use any alsa tool to list the ALSA cards and their properties? | 13:22 |
| rsalveti | I think there is something from alsa-utils | 13:29 |
| sveinse | well you have alsactl, but it doesn't list things like #channels and other specs, just the sound card's name | 13:32 |
| rsalveti | ogra: maybe you know that, as you configured the omap 4 board file | 13:33 |
| rsalveti | probably dump the boards and the mixers | 13:33 |
| rsalveti | I'm not remembering now | 13:33 |
| * ogra reads backlog | 13:33 | |
| rsalveti | ogra: just how to dump the alsa card configuration | 13:34 |
| ogra | urghm i dont remember | 13:34 |
| ogra | something with alsactl | 13:34 |
| rsalveti | maybe you give alsactl store and then looked at the alsa.state file | 13:35 |
| ogra | i think there is infor in the sounddevices omap4 bug | 13:35 |
| rsalveti | sorry, asound.state | 13:35 |
| * sveinse searching LP | 13:39 | |
| sveinse | ogra: bug #637947 ? | 13:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 | 13:41 |
| ogra | sveinse, yeah, that should have several ways of getting alsa infos | 13:41 |
| sveinse | thanks | 13:44 |
| ogra | rsalveti, seen my comment above ? we have images :) | 13:45 |
| rsalveti | ogra: nops, cool | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | awesome, even for omap3 | 13:46 |
| ogra | yep | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | ogra: just missing manifest for omap3 | 13:46 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:46 |
| * rsalveti downloading them | 13:46 | |
| ogra | shouldnt be different from omap4 though | 13:46 |
| ogra | apart from kernel | 13:47 |
| rsalveti | yup | 13:48 |
| rsalveti | but will fire it up at my xm | 13:48 |
| ogra | wow | 13:53 |
| ogra | we should pull libreoffice back into our images ... 472M !! | 13:53 |
| ogra | so much space !!! | 13:53 |
| rsalveti | ouch | 13:57 |
| guerby | rsalveti, some update on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/690370 | 14:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 690370 in linux-ti-omap4 "Strange out of memory on pandaboard" [Undecided,New] | 14:42 |
| guerby | rsalveti, I tried Robert Nelson kernel but without args I'm back to 512MB RAM | 14:42 |
| guerby | rcn-ee, hi :) ^ | 14:43 |
| guerby | rcn-ee, could you provide me with your exact /proc/cmdline? | 14:44 |
| guerby | rcn-ee, mine is now "text ro root=UUID=b5d2dfb1-270c-4966-abe6-dfe7a2a17efd console=ttyO2,115200n8" but when I boot I have only 490MB of RAM | 14:45 |
| guerby | ok now I get a random MAC again at each boot | 14:54 |
| vstehle-laptop | guerby: you can use smsc95xx.macaddr=xxx to specify your mac I think. | 14:55 |
| guerby | vstehle-laptop, not with rcn-ee kernel (that's what I was using before but with newer kernel it prevents network for working at all...) | 14:58 |
| rsalveti | vstehle: vstehle-laptop: call? | 15:04 |
| rsalveti | guerby: I really think this is kind of related with the mem instability issues we have when using 1gb | 15:04 |
| rsalveti | that cooloney was working last week | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | was kind of waiting his results before testing this again | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | we also posted on linux-omap to get more attention, but it seems nobody is actually looking at it | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | even from ti | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | :-( | 15:05 |
| guerby | rsalveti, I rebooted with the mem= option and i see 768M again (on rcn-ee kernel) | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | that's expected, if you're using 2g/2g then you can also use 1gb | 15:06 |
| rsalveti | but will probably get unexpected results | 15:06 |
| guerby | rsalveti, I'm relaunching my GCC bootstrap test we'll see what happens | 15:06 |
| guerby | rsalveti, anyway do you know what option is now replacing the former smsc95xx.macaddr=xx ? | 15:08 |
| rsalveti | guerby: hm, need to check what patch got upstream regarding that | 15:12 |
| === JamieBennettt is now known as JamieBennett | ||
| guerby | rsalveti, yep this is going to annoy lots of users :) | 15:28 |
| rsalveti | guerby: yup, as rcn-ee pointed at his latest comment, it seems that the only patch that got applied upstream is the one that you can fix the mac by using /etc/network/interfaces | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | I believe the one that you can set as a module parameter was just a sauce from ti | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=10f38b455e75b85f72e98786e5518cf7b0324634 | 15:41 |
| rsalveti | this is the one that adds it | 15:41 |
| * rsalveti is still trying to pull linux-2.6 upstream | 15:43 | |
| hrw | 1GB on panda... my dream | 15:46 |
| rsalveti | 1gb and es 2.2 | 15:46 |
| hrw | I have es2.0 | 15:48 |
| guerby | rsalveti, new kernel freezes way faster ... | 15:51 |
| rsalveti | =\ | 15:52 |
| guerby | rsalveti, I wonder what rcn-ee does to avoid those | 15:53 |
| rsalveti | maybe because it's not the same env | 15:53 |
| rsalveti | but I was able to get freezes like this with my both pandas | 15:54 |
| rsalveti | just compiling big packages | 15:54 |
| guerby | rsalveti, ah great! I'm not alone in the world :) | 15:55 |
| hrw | [95346.261871] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: usb0: kevent 2 may have been dropped | 15:55 |
| hrw | I hate that message | 15:55 |
| rsalveti | yeah, usual | 15:55 |
| hrw | on EA1 and A1 it is death message ;( | 15:55 |
| rsalveti | both xm and panda, as they are using the same driver | 15:55 |
| hrw | rsalveti: never had xm | 15:56 |
| hrw | I have bb: b7/c3/c3 and panda: ea1 (one of 10 which have es2.0 but gpios set as for es2.1) | 15:56 |
| vstehle-laptop | hrw: maybe jayabharath can help you get your ea1 panda reworked ? | 16:00 |
| hrw | vstehle-laptop: this panda is fine | 16:00 |
| hrw | A1/ES2.1 has faster memory bus then EA1/ES2.0 one. but still <12MB/s from usbhdd | 16:05 |
| hrw | TI: please fix your drivers | 16:05 |
| rsalveti | :-) | 16:08 |
| hrw | with omap3 musb-hcd was hmm... quality. omap4 shows that usb host controllers are still not strong in TI | 16:09 |
| hrw | someone knows good memspeed test? | 16:09 |
| sebjan | rsalveti, guerby: the patch for the smsc95xx.macaddr parameter has been integrated into the natty kernel for omap4 | 16:17 |
| rsalveti | sebjan: yup, but he's currently trying upstream | 16:17 |
| guerby | sebjan, ok thx | 16:35 |
| hrw | have a nice weekend | 16:36 |
| === Jack87_Away is now known as Jack87 | ||
| Homefix1 | I have no hair left: I created ubuntu ubuntuArm image using rootstock for use on my mobile phone.Here is my tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098 I hade trouble with the terminal (no prompt) I know it has something to do with this "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" message when installing applications from the android | 18:35 |
| Homefix1 | terminal were i start the chroot. Last week i asked the very same question. someone replied i have to MAKEDEV. I think that did it, i got my prompt back.( i have no ideea what i did,just used all the commands i could use etcstd,generic,update conlole etc. the problem is i cannot reproduce those results again. Every image i create i get no prompt. | 18:35 |
| Homefix1 | Does the kernel i use upon first emulation with qemu have any thing to do with setting up dev/pts? | 18:36 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, mount -o bind /dev/ /chroot/mount/point/dev | 18:37 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, and inside chroot mount /dev/pts | 18:37 |
| Homefix1 | how could i narrow down this "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" because terminal wont work if system cannot write to dev/pts | 18:37 |
| === Jack87 is now known as Jack87_Away | ||
| rsalveti | ogra: GrueMaster: it seems the omap 3 image is basically the rootfs | 18:44 |
| rsalveti | there are no other partition, like the one used to boot it | 18:44 |
| GrueMaster | It built? I had an email saying it failed. | 18:45 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: ogra said in the irc that we had one for today | 18:45 |
| rsalveti | also on the release status | 18:45 |
| GrueMaster | Hadn't read all the backscroll yet. My bad. | 18:45 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: happy testing :-) | 18:45 |
| GrueMaster | grumble. | 18:46 |
| Homefix1 | rbelen: thnks try it | 18:46 |
| rsalveti | and I believe omap 4 needs the new x-loader | 18:47 |
| rsalveti | well, it's still working, but probably with wrong clocks and etc | 18:48 |
| Homefix1 | rbelen wen i try mount /dev/pts i get "none already mounted or /dev/pts busy mount: according to fstab,none is already mounted" | 18:48 |
| Homefix1 | i wish some one had a minut to download my image and take a look for themselves http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJY6ZB58 | 18:50 |
| rsalveti | urgh, trying to access beyond the device | 18:51 |
| rsalveti | and one error inside jasper_growroot | 18:52 |
| rsalveti | line 57: /dev/mmcbl0p: bad variable name | 18:52 |
| rsalveti | hehe, both probably broken | 18:52 |
| Homefix1 | I use the same chroot scripts for both images (one that works and the million that dont). the prob has to be in the image | 18:53 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: can you also try and confirm for me? | 18:53 |
| rsalveti | just to be sure, as my sd card reader seems to be giving some unexpected results | 18:53 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: Downloading images now. Will take ~20 minutes. | 18:53 |
| rsalveti | cool, that's fine | 18:54 |
| rsalveti | if you just give file to the omap3 image you'll probably get only an ext3 fs | 18:54 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem: out of the 5 scripts (bootubuntu,fsrw,mountonly,ubuntu.sh,unionfs) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098 (all the scripts are opened for viewing here).Where would i place "mount -o bind /dev/ /chroot/mount/point/dev in those scripts? and thanks (and by the way my images are karmic) | 19:01 |
| rbelem | checking | 19:06 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, in bootubuntu before mount -t devpts devpts $mnt/dev/pts | 19:09 |
| Homefix1 | try it you the ....person | 19:09 |
| sveinse | I'm running rootstock a lot, and I'm considering putting together my own local apt cache/mirror. Now, what's the easiest way to get hold of the debs rootstock is downloading? | 19:16 |
| rbelem | sveinse, using approx | 19:19 |
| GrueMaster | sveinse: I have my own mirror, and I fount that using a combination of ubumirror and apt-mirror works best for me. apt-mirror allows me to specify the specific arch & release, and I can fine tune ubumirror to pick up the .udeb files and other bits. | 19:20 |
| sveinse | GrueMaster: Do you mirror all of armel, or have you picked out specific packages? | 19:23 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem: no change, I have one working without the modifications to the script. I cannot reproduce the same conditions to create another, try number of times with rootstock, and with the project rootstock script, no sucsess. the image that i got to work last week i think was fixed using MAKEDEV upon ogra's request. But cant make it happen again what am i doing wrong.IT WORKED ONCE ARGGGGGGG.Im | 19:23 |
| Homefix1 | so frustrated but i love it haha. | 19:23 |
| rbelem | :-) | 19:23 |
| GrueMaster | sveinse: I mirror all of armel, but only back to Lucid. Here is the apt-mirror config. http://paste.ubuntu.com/556629/ | 19:24 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, in general i use the mount -o bind ... and it works fine | 19:24 |
| GrueMaster | sveinse: Here is my ubumirror.conf. http://paste.ubuntu.com/556631/ | 19:25 |
| sveinse | GrueMaster: Thanks. What the size of one version (e.g. Maverick) for armel? | 19:25 |
| GrueMaster | Well, it is a mirror, so every version is in the same location. My entire mirror is 267G, but that is everything from lucid forward, including source files, .udeb files, and netboot images. | 19:26 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure how much just maverick would be, but I'd expect it to be ~1/3 of this. | 19:27 |
| sveinse | ok, this would be too large for me at this point | 19:28 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem:cant figure out were to go next to see why one image sees /dev/pts and the other doesnt. | 19:28 |
| * sveinse is wondering if apt-mirror and/or ubumirror can be configured for specific packages only... RTFM | 19:28 | |
| GrueMaster | Like I said, I get everything. Main, Universe, Multiverse, Restricted, Updates, Proposed, Backports. Everything. | 19:29 |
| sveinse | Oh, yes, true | 19:29 |
| GrueMaster | I think a mirror of Maverick Main w/o source would be around 20-30M | 19:29 |
| GrueMaster | I mean G | 19:29 |
| StevenK | For one arch + all, yes. | 19:30 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem: whats funny is on the noprompt image i cannot create folders on the desktop either | 19:31 |
| Homefix1 | or any other image i make except the one i was lucky enough to make thank god i have that. | 19:31 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem : .....to fiddle with, after all why would you want ubuntu on your phone anyway. just kidding in my mind who wouldnt | 19:33 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, i really want it on my phone | 19:35 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, imagine an android ui on top of an ubuntu base :-) | 19:36 |
| Homefix1 | Ha Haaaa | 19:36 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, soon we will have plasma-mobile | 19:37 |
| rbelem | currently it is technology preview | 19:37 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem: just need bigger screen | 19:38 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem dont no how wife sees here little palm pixi screen | 19:39 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: omap image is single partition only. Bah. | 19:40 |
| GrueMaster | can't test it anyway. ENOHW | 19:40 |
| GrueMaster | panda image looks promising. Flashing now. | 19:40 |
| GrueMaster | Brrr. 65f/18c in my office. Man, I sometimes miss testing on x86/amd64 systems. 5 arm platforms don't generate enough heat. | 19:44 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem my working image: has 0 and 1 in the dev/pts folder non working image has only a 0, how can i get the 1 in there ? | 19:53 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, brb | 19:55 |
| === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| Homefix1 | rbelem: k | 20:01 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: haha | 20:21 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, umount the current /dev/pts | 20:31 |
| * rsalveti eow, have a nice weekend | 20:31 | |
| Homefix1 | hold on..... | 20:31 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, go out of chroot | 20:31 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev | 20:31 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, chroot again | 20:31 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, mount /dev/pts | 20:31 |
| Homefix1 | gotta change imiges takes a sec | 20:32 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, check if it works | 20:32 |
| GrueMaster | omap4 image resize is failing on one of my 16G drives. Hmmm. | 20:32 |
| Homefix1 | rbelem: manual unmount or take referance out of bootubuntu? | 20:33 |
| rbelem | Homefix1, go manual to see if it works | 20:33 |
| Homefix1 | k | 20:33 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: jasper_growroot: export: Line 57: /dev/mmcblkop: bad variable name | 20:34 |
| rsalveti | yup, same as mine | 20:35 |
| Homefix1 | rbel: sorry for being a noooob upon "unmount /dev/pts" i get bash: unmount command not found | 20:37 |
| Homefix1 | rbel sorry its umount | 20:48 |
| Homefix1 | rbel im a knukle i dont know path to chroot is it in my scripts at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098 | 20:59 |
| Homefix1 | rbel could ya still help me im not a lost cause: i think it may work if i can figure out mount point and path to chroot how do i find out the location it must be in the scripts no? | 21:10 |
| Homefix1 | Could this be the path to chroot "/data/local/ubuntu" ? | 21:16 |
| Homefix1 | coul any one look at these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098" and tell me path to chroot? thnx | 21:55 |
| sveinse | Any of you happen to know an easy way of downloading the armel debs and its dependencies for, say, ubuntu-minimal -- preferably downloaded from host (i.e. non armel machine) | 23:05 |
| sveinse | one way I can think of is --copy-package-cache in rootstock, but I'd hoped it could be done more, uhm, natively | 23:08 |
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