/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/21/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

adtoeshey all00:20
adtoesadam@adam-desktop:~$ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel00:20
adtoesadam@adam-desktop:~$ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel00:20
adtoesadam@adam-desktop:~$ pkill gnome-panel00:20
adtoesoops00:20
adtoesmy cairo dock is doing this00:21
adtoeshttp://img413.imageshack.us/i/screen1bn.png00:21
aveilleux!pastebin | adtoes00:21
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aveilleuxadtoes: Could you use a different image host, something like imgur.com? Imageshack doesn't agree with my computer very well.00:22
adtoesok00:22
adtoeshttp://imgur.com/nPnKw00:24
adtoeshttp://imgur.com/4iPhE00:24
aveilleuxadtoes: Ahh, I see. Cairo's not spanning across the monitors properly.00:25
adtoeshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/556386/00:25
adtoesis that how i do that pastebin?00:25
aveilleuxadtoes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cairo-dock-core/+bug/549683 for the Cairo fix00:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 549683 in cairo-dock-core "Dock not correctly drawn on multi screen using cairo backend" [Medium,Fix committed]00:28
aveilleuxadtoes: As for the panels, what happens when you try to add a panel?00:28
aveilleuxadtoes: Also http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html00:29
adtoesya i tried that : http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html00:30
aveilleuxadtoes: Or http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7437921&postcount=200:30
adtoeseeek00:34
adtoesthat crashed my comp00:34
adtoeslol00:35
adtoeswhen i typed: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop00:36
adtoesit put me into just a black dialog00:36
aveilleuxInteresting00:38
aveilleuxYeah00:38
aveilleuxDid it log you out? like, a black screen with a login00:38
adtoesis there somewhere i gui to just add a panel?00:38
adtoesfrom there i could only get to a tty100:38
aveilleuxadtoes: I don't know of a way to add a panel without a panel to right-click on00:38
adtoesthe buy who posted that code hasn't replied since it screwed my panels up00:39
adtoes*guy00:39
aveilleuxadtoes: When you do /etc/init.d/gdm stop does the black screen say "login:"?00:39
adtoesnope00:39
aveilleuxadtoes: Okay, well... write those commands down00:40
adtoesi can type stuff but nothing happens00:40
aveilleuxadtoes: Then run /etc/init.d/gdm stop00:40
adtoesya god plan00:40
aveilleuxwait for the rest of the instructions00:40
adtoesi'll be back lol00:40
aveilleuxwait00:40
adtoesk00:40
aveilleuxthen hit Ctrl+Alt+F100:40
aveilleuxlog in through the text interface00:40
aveilleuxthen run the commands00:40
aveilleuxonce you're done, run sudo reboot00:40
aveilleuxthen come back here00:41
adtoesok ty very much man!!!00:41
adtoesaveilleux: damn00:46
aveilleuxadtoes: No luck?00:48
adtoesaveilleux: negative00:48
adtoesjust reset my themes, icons and backgrounds00:48
adtoeshow do you get a name infront of what you type?00:48
aveilleuxadtoes: I start typing the name then hit tab00:49
adtoesadtoes: nice sweet00:49
adtoesaveilleux: just like term00:49
aveilleuxadtoes: Yeah. Though you have to make the part you type unique enough to be guessed.00:49
adtoesya i getchia00:50
adtoesaveilleux: i getchia00:50
aveilleuxadtoes: something you can try is reinstalling gnome-panel00:50
aveilleuxadtoes: in Terminal: sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel --purge && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel00:51
adtoesaveilleux:  i try now :)00:52
adtoesthen a re-boot?00:52
aveilleuxadtoes: yeah00:52
adtoesaveilleux:  or logout then back in?00:52
adtoesk00:53
adtoesaveilleux:  brb00:53
adtoesaveilleux: buddy00:55
aveilleuxadtoes: hm?00:58
adtoesaveilleux: <300:58
adtoesaveilleux:  lol00:58
aveilleuxadtoes: You're welcome :P00:58
adtoesyes ty sooooo much00:58
adtoesaveilleux:  after remove gnome-panel --purge00:59
adtoesaveilleux: whats the purge do?00:59
aveilleuxadtoes: It removes the system-level configuration for that package01:00
adtoesaveilleux: system level?01:00
aveilleuxadtoes: in /etc01:00
adtoesaveilleux: oh01:00
adtoesaveilleux: ill read up on it01:00
adtoesaveilleux: now to figure out the whole cairo issue01:01
walkkennI have installed 10.4 netbook on my ASUS and I am having trouble using my ethernet port  Maybe I don't have it set up right02:55
walkkennOK, here's another problem I'm having ... my cursor jumps around when I type sometimes02:59
walkkennI have netbook 10.4 installed in an ASUS and it doesn't and I can't connect through ethernet cable port03:18
egossettwhy do i have 25 blocked updates mostly kde04:21
ddecatoregossett: could be for a few different reasons. if you're using PPAs or are running Natty, then the updates may be out but not for your system architecture. it could also be that an update conflicts with an installed package04:25
egossettok04:25
egossettddecator: ok thank you i do have ppa's so i will look at them04:25
egossettddecator: not sure how to tell if i have conflicts04:26
egossettddecator: but thanks for that response04:26
ddecatoregossett: that's fairly common if you're running 64-bit, the 32-bit update may have built but the 64-bit may have not for some reason. to see if you have conflicts, use synaptic to find the packages which have updates, mark them to update, and it will tell you if there are conflicts04:27
egossettddecator: using 32 bit 10.04 lts with kde04:27
ddecatormore likely the latter then04:27
ddecatorunless the updates are from a PPA04:28
egossettis ppa in synpaic also04:28
ddecatorthat's in Software04:28
ddecatorwhoops04:28
ddecatorSoftware Sources*04:28
egossettfound synpatic04:28
ddecatorif it's a lot of KDE stuff, the only PPA i can think of would be the KDE Beta PPA04:29
egossettwhat to search for in synpatic04:29
ddecatorthe packages that were said to have updates. unfortunately there is no way to know which one is causing a conflict until you come across it. there might be a faster way to do this, but this is the only way i know04:30
egossetti see some that are highlight green with little star (kde) - must be the ones which are blocked04:30
ddecatori think that means there is an update available for that package04:31
egossettok doing that, said upgrade on some and update on some04:33
egossettnow the ppa's are in software, will check there04:33
yofelbeta PPA doesn't have lucid stuff, so it's either backports, or if he's not doing that then something's not right with 4.4.5 in lucid-updates04:39
yofelegossett: could you check which ppas you have? (if any of the kde ones)04:39
egossettyofel: ok thanks04:40
egossettyofel: the synaptic is running04:40
egossettddecator: and yofel: i got error04:40
egossettW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kopete_4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_i386.deb04:41
egossettW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kopete_4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_i386.deb04:41
ddecatorwell look at that :)04:41
* yofel checks the ppa04:41
ddecatorthanks yofel04:41
egossettwhere is my list of ppa (sorry i cannot find this list)04:42
yofelegossett: that is odd - that file definitely exists04:43
yofeland I can download it fine here04:43
egossetthmmm04:43
ddecatoregossett: under "Software Sources" i think the tab is called "Third Party Sources"04:43
egossettok one minute04:43
ddecatoror "Other Software" on 10.1004:44
egossettmy list includes 2 canonical and 2 launchpad04:44
yofelcanonical would be partner I guess04:44
egossettlaunchpad ubuntu04:44
egossettlaunchpad tualatrix04:44
egossettlaunchpad kubuntu ppa04:44
egossettlaunchpad ubuntu ppa04:45
ddecatori wonder why it can't downlod the update..04:45
ddecatordownload*04:45
yofelegossett: can you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in konsole and pastebin the output?04:46
egossettnow i get message to update lopete and python kde 404:46
egossettyofel: ok i will run this one minute plss04:47
egossetti don't have konsole, i have terminal will that be ok04:48
yofelsure04:48
egossettduh konsole is same04:48
egossetthahahaha04:48
ddecatorhm, i just downloaded the deb without issue too04:49
egossettyofel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:49
egossett[sudo] password for evalyn:04:49
egossettReading package lists... Done04:49
egossettBuilding dependency tree04:49
egossettReading state information... Done04:49
egossettCalculating upgrade... Done04:49
egossett0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:49
egossettevalyn@evalyn-E1705:~$04:49
yofel!paste04:49
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yofelegossett: that says you don't have any pending updates?04:50
ddecatorwhat the..04:50
egossettddecator: yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556431/04:51
egossettyou guys solve the problem04:51
ddecatoregossett: run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just in case04:51
ddecatorbut it looks like everything updated04:52
egossettkk04:52
egossettcopying to paste bin04:53
egossetthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/556432/04:54
ddecatorwell, one of your PPAs is missing its key, but all of your updates are installed04:54
egossettwhere is the key04:55
yofelegossett: can you disable that ubuntu-doc/ppa ?04:55
egossettok04:55
yofelthen try again04:56
yofelas for the key...04:56
yofelrun: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 632D16BB0C713DA604:56
egossettubuntu doc ppa is disable04:56
egossetttry again? which command04:56
yofelegossett: first apt-key, then the update/dist-upgrade from just now04:57
egossettI got message information about avaialble software is outof date should i reload?04:57
yofelrun apt please04:58
yofel(sudo apt-get update will update the software cache)04:58
ddecatoregossett: if you're talking about when you disabled the PPA and it asked you to reload, then yes04:59
egossetti just closed it04:59
egossetthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/556433/05:00
yofelegossett: erm, I mean the apt-key command I posted05:00
ddecator"sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 632D16BB0C713DA6" without the quotes05:01
ddecatorat least the ubuntu-doc ppa was disabled05:01
yofelbut it does seem that all updates were applied05:01
egossettyofel: sorry i missed that line05:01
egossetthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/556434/05:02
egossettddecator: and yofel: you are awesome, must have fixed it. smile05:03
ddecatorgood, so the key is all set. now run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" one more time05:03
egossettkk05:03
egossetthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/556435/05:05
ddecatorperfect. looks like you're all set :)05:05
egossettddecator: thank you so much05:05
egossettyofel: thank you so much05:05
ddecatoregossett: any time, that's why we're here05:05
egossettI did learn a little something there, not all that you did but something05:06
egossettsmile05:06
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MrAnthropeHrm... /home/geo/.wine/drive_c/Program Files keeps making itself so I can't modify files in it. I turn permissions back on and it disables them shortly afterwards.05:30
MrAnthropewine: /home/geo/.wine is not owned by you05:33
MrAnthropeAnd now it's not even letting me see files or folders within Program Files unless I'm root.05:35
jermzaAnyone here?  The last few times, no one seems to answer...05:44
MrAnthropeI'm here. Also waiting for an answer :)05:44
ddecatorthere are a few people here. sorry MrAnthrope i didn't respond because i'm not sure how to address your problem05:45
MrAnthrope:)05:45
jermzaso here's my question: I have 2 instances of "Broadcast" in my top panel.  One shows me as logged in, and the other not.  This happened all of a sudden.05:59
ddecatorif you log out and back in, are there still two icons?06:00
jermzaIt doesn't matter what I do, the two stay.06:01
jermzaIf I remove Gwibber from my STartup Apps, then one appears.06:01
ddecatorooooh, are you seeing two of the envelope icons or two listings for "Broadcast" in the drop-down?06:02
jermza2 Broadcast icons06:04
jermzaIn the dropdown.06:04
jermzaTwo listings for Broadcast in the dropdown.06:04
ddecatorcan you run "top" without the quotes in a terminal and see if there are two gwibber processes?06:04
jermzaUnless I'm blind, I don't Gwibber at all, there.06:06
ddecatorhmm, i think the process should be called gwibber-service06:07
jermzaDon't see it.06:08
ddecatorodd, and gwibber is definitely running right now?06:09
jermzaI don't know.  One instance shows it as logged in, and the other instance shows it as not logged in.06:09
jermzaWhen I open SYstem Monitor, it shows 9 instances of Gwibber-service06:10
jermzaall of them "sleeping"06:10
ddecatorthat's very strange. try running "killall gwibber-service" which should end those processes, then restart gwibber06:11
jermzaI did that.  Broadcast appeared as one instance.06:14
jermzaI then clicked on it, to log in.06:14
jermzaIt now shows two instances again.06:14
ddecatori wonder if the problem is with the applet and not gwibber..06:14
jermzaJust all of a sudden?06:14
ddecatorhave you installed any updates lately?06:15
jermzayes06:15
ddecatorand update could have caused it06:16
jermzahmm06:17
ddecatoran*06:17
ddecatori'm honestly not sure what the best option would be. resetting the panel seems extreme and i'm not sure that would make any difference...someone else might have an idea06:18
jermzaok06:19
jermzaThere are a couple of threads on Ubuntu about it.06:20
jermzaBut not a single answer.06:20
MrAnthropeSometimes my screen fades to black and white and the app I'm using crashes. Does anyone know how to turn off fading to black and white? Or why it's doing it in the first place?07:42
bioterrorMrAnthrope, you can start with Xorg.0.log07:43
charliemacWhat's the difference between a kernel and a Device/Login Manager?08:36
JackyAlcine!kernel08:41
ubot2The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages08:41
JackyAlcine!gdm08:41
ubot2Factoid 'gdm' not found08:41
JackyAlcine?08:41
JackyAlcine!kdm08:42
ubot2Factoid 'kdm' not found08:42
JackyAlcineo.o08:42
JackyAlcineWell, a Login Manager is the authentication layer between Xorg (soon to be replaced with Wayland) and transfers control to the approriate DM (or Desktop Manager)08:43
JackyAlcinecharliemac: ^^ Answered your question? or more in-depth is needed?08:43
charliemacGood question...08:45
charliemacI am not sure whether I should install DSL (DamSmalLinux) or Lubuntu on my laptop.08:45
JackyAlcinecharliemac: What are you looking for?08:47
charliemacI need to replace WinXp and I want it basic and efficient.08:47
charliemac*With room to develop/expand/enhance08:48
charliemac*In terms of capabilities08:48
charliemacHow does Ubuntu/Lubuntu compare with Knoppix, RedHat, DSL (DamSmalLinux), and Mint?08:50
JackyAlcineSorry, charliemac. Should include my name. And I'm not too sure.09:02
JackyAlcine!knoppix09:02
ubot2Factoid 'knoppix' not found09:02
JackyAlcine!redhat09:02
ubot2Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)09:02
JackyAlcineWell, I can tell you this. Lubuntu's the "lighter" edition of Ubuntu, designed to run on 0.125 GB (128MB RAM) and with limited resources.09:02
JackyAlcineIt's the ideal system for older computers09:03
JackyAlcine^^ charliemac09:03
charliemacCan "Mobile IntelĀ® PentiumĀ® 4 Processor 532 supporting HT Technology  (1M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 533 MHz FSB)" support 64-bit?09:24
geirhalshw -class cpu   # check the width09:26
charliemacWikipedia says 90nm09:29
charliemacas does <http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27368> ;P09:31
JackyAlcineIt seems so.09:33
charliemacJackyAlcine: What seems so?09:34
JackyAlcinethat the Pentinum4 532 can handle 64-bit apps09:35
geirhalshw -class cpu | grep width   gives me   width: 64 bits09:40
geirha(completely different processor though, I just assumed you were running Ubuntu)09:41
charliemacCan Pentium 4 532 HT support the 64-bit ubuntu?09:42
geirhaIf it's a 64-bit processor, which JackyAlcine apparently has googled for you09:43
head_victimThat link seems to suggest it's only 32 bit (the intel.com one)09:43
geirhaAh yes, didn't see that until now, it says the instruction set is 32 bit09:43
geirhaSo no, you need the 32-bit09:44
charliemacThat's true...  But <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit> seems to suggest that a Pentium 4 "Prescott" works...09:44
charliemacPerhaps it simply isn't 5x1 or F series?09:45
geirhaAppears so09:46
MrAnthropeI had terrible performance on my new computer until I realized my processor was 64 bit and I had installed 32 bit Ubuntu.09:54
Silver_Fox_Hello.10:05
JackyAlcineHey Silver_Fox_10:58
Silver_Fox_Hello JackyAlcine .10:58
Silver_Fox_How are you?10:58
JackyAlcine*yawns* Just a bit tired; it's pretty early @ UTC -510:59
JackyAlcinehow about you?10:59
Silver_Fox_I am fine thank you JackyAlcine .11:01
Silver_Fox_Just looking at load averages11:01
charliemac_is there a "11:51
charliemac_channel for #lubuntu-beginners ?11:51
charliemac_How can I access #lubuntu ?11:51
Silver_Fox_ /join #lubuntu11:51
Red-Ravenhey guys. i need help finishing up my SSH server.12:01
Red-Raveni got it DLd,  so now i guess i need to open port 22 and take down the rueter's firewall on that port.12:02
Red-Ravenhow do i lower the firewall?12:02
Red-Raven(I can open the port.)12:03
charliemacIs it safe to interrupt WinXP installation in order to overwrite the hard drive with #lubuntu ?12:05
JackyAlcinecharliemac: I'm assuming so. FAT32 is more "robust" than EXT* file systems so not that much damage would be caused.12:06
charliemacOr any other kind of #ubuntu ?12:06
Red-Ravenprobably. as long as that install has nothing to do with the lubuntu partition (but get a second opinion. i've only been here a month now.)12:06
charliemacWhat if I'm trying to install ubuntu from the previously external hard drive which now has Lubuntu's ISO unpacked as the contents of the recovery partition?12:08
charliemacWithout a cd-rom?12:08
charliemacI guess I can just wait for XP to finish and then access the recovery partition through windows explorer...12:11
charliemacCan I create a Lubuntu partition from within winxp?12:12
Red-Ravenyup.12:12
Red-Ravenhey can i use port 84 for my SSH?12:12
charliemacWill I then be able to bypass winxp and boot straight into Lubuntu?12:13
Red-Ravensort of. on start up you will get the GRUB menu. from there you pick which OS you want. if you don't pick in 10 seconds it auto boots into whatever primary Linux Distro (in this case Lubuntu) you have.12:15
JoeMaverickSettcharliemac: is your lubuntu already installed? on the separate/external hard drive? if so how did you install it?12:15
Red-Ravencan anyone here help me out with this SSH server?12:15
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: i believe you could use any port as long as you need to access it from outside, you gotta have that port do port forwarding in your router.12:16
charliemacJoeMaverickSett:  it isn't installed but its ISO is unpacked into the recovery partion of the same hard drive.  I was using it externally on a separate PC12:16
Red-Ravenok thx.12:17
walkkennI just installed 10.4 netbook on my ASUS and I can't get my ethernet port to work.12:21
charliemacHow can I choose which partition to open from the GRUB menu?  The only boot options are Hard Drive, Floppy Disc, Cd-ROM, and Network, as far as I can tell, apparently without regard for partitions. #lubuntu ?12:23
Red-Raventhats not GRUB then. thats BIOS.12:26
Red-Ravenhow many HDDs are pluged in?12:27
duanedesignRed-Raven: did you get your SSH Server finished?12:28
Red-Ravenno. which IP do i put in for port forwarding?12:28
Red-Ravenis it the IP of the machine im putting the server on?12:29
duanedesignRed-Raven: what ever port is specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config12:31
Red-Ravenno i know the port.12:31
Red-Ravenwhat i need to know is what IP do i put in the box for port forwarding?12:32
duanedesignRed-Raven: oh, i am sorry. MisreAD your question :P12:32
Red-RavenSok/12:32
Red-Raven.*12:32
Red-Raven(not trying to nag, but i don't have much time. i want to get it working so i can test it at school today)12:34
duanedesignRed-Raven: i have not set up port forwarding before with SSH12:37
Red-Ravenok. have you port forwarded something else? i opened the port but multiple websites say its still closed.12:38
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: let's say this computer you're using is going to be accessed, therefore port forward to this.12:39
duanedesignhmm. Have you set the iptable on your SSH server computer.12:39
Red-Ravenso port forward to the computer the server will be running on?12:40
duanedesignsomething like:  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT12:40
Red-Ravenis it a config file i can change as root?12:40
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: you could either set the computer to use static ip or let the router reserve a static ip for this computer by defining with MAC address.12:40
duanedesignor open with: gksudo gedit ...12:40
Red-Ravenok. so which IP from the server do i use? inet or Bcast? (from ifconfig)12:41
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: inet12:42
Red-Raveni have forwarded that to the port i picked.12:42
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: and i think you should have a static ip for that ubuntu box.12:42
Red-Ravenbut multiple port checkers say its still closed.12:42
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: so you used network tools to port scan your router?12:44
Red-Ravenno. just a port checking website.12:44
Red-Ravencould it be firewalled somehow?12:46
duanedesignRed-Raven: have you set the iptable on the computer to allow ssh. This command should open the port. iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT12:47
walkkennanyone know where I can find a tutorial on setting up network applet 0.812:47
JoeMaverickSettRed-Raven: try what duanedesign has suggested. :)12:47
Red-Raveni put sudo in front, put in my password, and nothing happened. did it work?12:49
Red-Ravena port checking site said its still closed.12:50
duanedesignRed-Raven: iptables -L   <--will tell you if it saved12:50
duanedesignwalkkenn: hello12:50
duanedesignwalkkenn: Are you looking to install network manager 0.812:51
Red-Ravendone. what am i looking for?12:51
duanedesignRed-Raven: should look similar to the command12:52
Red-Ravenno i mean the output.12:52
Red-Ravenhow do i tell if it was saved?12:52
duanedesignACCEPT   tcp  --  anywhere  anywhere  tcp dpt:ssh12:53
duanedesignsomething like that^12:53
Red-Ravenyup.12:53
Red-Raveni have that.12:53
duanedesignwalkkenn: there is a PPA that has the daily builds:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:network-manager/trunk12:55
Red-Ravenwell i got to go. ill tty once im at school.12:55
Red-Raveni go in early.12:55
Red-Ravenhey. so thers not mauch i can do now (im at school).13:12
Red-Ravenif the server was up and running, how would i connect ?13:12
smudgyhi all - anyone know how to configure ubuntu to use traditional ifup instead of network manager ui?13:14
geirhasmudgy: You edit /etc/network/interfaces13:16
geirhanetwork manager should ignore interfaces set up in that file.13:16
geirhaman interfaces  explains the format, and there's a page in the server guide or on the wiki about it too13:17
smudgyi've been thru that tnx13:18
smudgydefined my eth0 iface13:18
walkkennSorry, got distracted.  applet 0.8 installed and wifi works good  http://paste.ubuntu.com/556509/13:18
walkkennCan't seem to get the ethernet cable to work13:18
smudgyeven tried to get rid of NM (but didn't select to remove files)13:19
smudgyso now i can run ifdown ifup but it isn;t quite functional13:19
smudgynm is still somehow interfering13:20
walkkennI got the MAC address for the wired input13:20
smudgyi'll keep beavering away from time to time. luckily suse has a gui that sets networking to be done via traditional ifup and i need to find out what it does so that i can get ubuntu to work on resume.13:22
smudgyotherwise suspend etc works fine once you just use the correct boot parameter (grub1 easier) ;>)13:23
smudgygeirha: thanks for the reply anyway13:25
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ShootEmUpHello Everyone!14:27
charliemacHow can I make sure that my USB flash drive is bootable?14:57
JoeMaverickSettcharliemac: use unetbootin - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net and download the .exe file if you're on windows15:00
charliemacOk, I've done that already.  The issue i'm having is getting the target machine to boot from it15:01
JoeMaverickSettcharliemac: stick in the usb into your pc, reboot the pc, look at the option to boot from, mine says "F12 Boot Options", hit that option, choose USB15:02
charliemacThe problem is that when I'm in the boot menu, there is no USB option15:03
wolfpackcharliemac: Is your PC very old15:04
wolfpack?15:04
JoeMaverickSettcharliemac: did you check if your BIOS supports USB booting?15:05
charliemacHow can I check that?15:05
JoeMaverickSettcharliemac: probably the documentations that came along with the pc or online documentation about the pc?15:06
charliemacIt looks like this one came out in 2005, gateway 7330gz <http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-7330gz-mobile-pentium/1707-3121_7-31477979.html>.15:07
charliemacWhat section of the online documentation would that likely be under? <http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/7000Series/4997nv.shtml>.15:08
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head_victimI think it's likely that you can't boot of USB15:15
head_victimSo you need to use a CD15:15
charliemacOh :| lol15:17
charliemacSzh: Looks like my computer is from 2005 <http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-7330gz-mobile-pentium/1707-3121_7-31477979.html>.  I don't want to boot from a cd because I don't know how to confirm the downloaded ISO in the first place, I am a little confused by the description in the documentation <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckCD>...15:24
charliemacWhere do I find the correct  data required to run the Md5Sum on the Lubuntu 10.10 ISO, which I downloaded directly from lubuntu.net?15:49
geirhaWhat OS are you currently using?15:54
geirhaThe md5sums for the lubuntu ISOs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt15:56
geirhaIf you download via bittorrent, you don't need to check it, your torrent client has done that for you.15:57
Bolo I have been trying to get my ethernet port working using instruction found on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9449490   http://paste.ubuntu.com/556556/    I have been working on this problem for a couple of days, but I just don't have the expertise to work it out.  I have an asus with netbook 10.4 and the ether port doesn't work.   Every time I try to install the patch, it asks me if I want to continue and I say Yes and16:30
Bolo it aborts.16:30
charliemacgeirha:  I am currently using winVista as the source machine and WinXP as the target.16:31
charliemacI don't even have a torrent client.16:32
charliemacI got my ISO striagt from Lubuntu.net, and it's not a match to the corresponding sum at <http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt>...  :[16:33
Bolo I have been trying to get my ethernet port working using instruction found on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9449490   http://paste.ubuntu.com/556556/   I have been working on this problem for a couple of days, but I just don't have the expertise to work it out.  I have an asus with netbook 10.4 and the ether port doesn't work. Every time I try to install the patch, it asks me if I want to continue and I say Yes and it16:41
Bolo aborts.16:41
geirhacharliemac: Ouch, sounds like it has been corrupted then, somehow :/16:42
geirhaBolo: That happens when you do  sudo make install  ?  Could you paste the output of that?   sudo make install 2>&1 | tee make.output   # that'll make all the output go to the file named make.output in addition to be shown in the terminal. Once done, pastebin that file.16:45
holsteinBolo: thats to get WIFI working?16:46
holsteinNM16:46
holsteini see16:46
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ereotavis there anyway to display in 1920 x 1680?17:27
UndiFineDsorry ereotav I cannot handle a resolution that high17:31
UndiFineDI have 1920x1080 (16:9)17:32
ereotavthat would also work17:32
UndiFineDSystem -> Preferences -> Monitor17:32
ereotavthe highest that shows is 1680x 105017:33
ereotavbut when i boot windows its 192017:33
BoloNeed some help getting my ethernet port to work ASUS netbook 10.4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/556585/17:34
Cheri703ereotav: there are 3 steps, and they either have to be repeated each time, or changed in a config file somewhere and I was never able to get that working, so I made a script to do it for myself...17:37
Cheri703(I use it for my external monitor)17:38
ereotavi actually just found i never installed my nvida driver17:38
ereotavso im installing it now17:38
ereotavit should hopefully work17:38
Cheri703ok17:38
Cheri703I have a 16:10 monitor that isn't friendly with 10.0417:38
ereotavwhile i wait for tht to install i have 1 more question17:42
BoloNeed some help getting my ethernet port to work ASUS netbook 10.4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/556585/17:42
ereotavI have a HP dv9000 laptop and when i shut off the onboard keypad the keyboard stops working17:42
BoloCan't seem to get my computer Ubuntu 10.4 netbook to recognize my etherport   http://paste.ubuntu.com/556585/17:47
Cheri703Bolo: someone will answer when they can, posting the same question every 5 minutes is not helpful and is kinda spammy :/17:48
Cheri703!patience17:48
ubot2Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:48
Cheri703Bolo: ok, I saw a bit of your earlier explanation17:49
Cheri703do you know the hardware info for your ethernet port?17:49
BoloSorry been here for two days - thought maybe when it roll to the top no one could see it17:49
Cheri703many people stay signed in, and read back when they return to chat/their computer17:50
BoloObviously I'm a beginner17:50
Cheri703no worries17:51
Cheri703just letting you know17:51
Cheri703what model is your asus netbook?17:51
BoloEee PC 1001-PXD- MU1717:52
BoloI thought maybe it could be a new driver problem.  I pretty sure I have the MAC address put in correctly.17:53
Cheri703where did you put in the mac address?17:53
Bolonetwork applet - wired17:54
Cheri703ahhhh, ok. try creating a new connection and leaving everything automatic, see if that'll connec17:54
Cheri703t17:54
BoloDid you look at the paste 556585  I'm thinking somethings not connecting or recognizing something.  I could be wrong17:56
Cheri703did you try a new connection? I have NEVER EVER put in my mac address when creating a connection, wired or otherwise. it does all of that on its own17:57
BoloOK, I have to disconnect to do it.  The wifi is working great, just the etherport connection17:58
Cheri703ok, just create a new wired connection and leave everything on auto/default17:59
BoloOK, back in a minute - one way or the other18:00
Cheri703ok18:01
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ereotavi have a question about vitrualbox and xp\zune18:23
Cheri703Bolo: any luck?18:23
ereotavI have installed VB and installed xp sp3 on it and am installing the zune software now18:23
zkriesse!ask | ereotav18:23
ubot2ereotav: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:23
zkriesseOk, so...what's the issue?18:24
zkriesseereotav: ^^18:24
ereotavxp cannot locate my media files on my d:\ drive. how do i make VB xp locate the folder?18:24
BoloCheri703 nope  I added the info on the hardware  http://paste.ubuntu.com/556599/18:25
zkriesseHmm18:25
Cheri703ereotav: you have to set up guest additions and something with sharing the drive18:26
Cheri703(I use vmware player now)18:26
ereotavso is that someonthing within VB that i can add and edit?18:26
BoloCheri703 I have the same thing on another netbook and it works perfectly.  Older product ACER18:26
Cheri703perhaps reinstall network manager?18:27
Cheri703I searched and didn't find any trend of issues with that hardware18:27
ereotavCheri703: Thank you i will try that!18:28
BoloIf I uninstall network manager - how will I get a wifi connection to reinstall it?18:28
BoloCheri703 - told you I was a nob18:29
BoloI found this fix for my hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9449490  but couldn't get it installed18:31
Cheri703you can just choose "reinstall" go into synaptic and search "network-manager" (at least as far as I know you should be able to, someone correct me if I'm wrong)18:33
Bolo_Cheri703  the reinstall doesn't work  or at least I don't know how to make it work  can't enter field18:47
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compumanI recently installed ubuntu studio on my GateWay. I've been booting Linux on this machine for about 9 months without any problems. I use truecrypt and the problem I'm having is my truecrypt bootloader can't find where its data is stored. i have a decrypt ISO, but its on the encrypted HDD. My live USB disros boot, but dont have a picture coming through on the screen. i have tried an external screen.20:25
compumanHelp20:30
bioterrorchoose correct input from the menu or what ever buttons you have, if you have dvi or vga :)20:32
compumandoesnt work20:32
compumanI recently installed ubuntu studio on my GateWay. I've been booting Linux on this machine for about 9 months without any problems. I use truecrypt and the problem I'm having is my truecrypt bootloader can't find where its data is stored. i have a decrypt ISO, but its on the encrypted HDD. My live USB disros boot, but dont have a picture coming through on the screen. i have tried an external screen.20:36
irishman2020I am looking to get either evolution or thunderbird to access exchange emails, and I'm having a few problems.  Does anyone have any resources that they would recommmend?20:36
compumanwhat problems are you having?20:37
sandcatHI I'm semi-new to ubuntu, I'm trying to install Komodo-edit, using the instructions at http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/4.4/install.html#Installing_Komodo_on_Linux ; but when I type  ./install.sh I get:20:43
sandcat./install.sh: 48: ./INSTALLDIR/lib/python/bin/python: not found.20:43
sandcatI'm not entirely sure what this means, or how to resollve it.20:44
bioterrorit doesnt find your python20:45
sandcatI can see that python exists in the directory it specifies.20:46
irishman2020Does anyone know why evolution would not always display the subject/from information in the inbox but show fine in the actual email?20:46
irishman2020I'm using the OWA addon20:46
MrChrisDruifIf it seems like we're slow to respond, that's because most of us are have a meeting at the moment...20:49
MrChrisDruifI'll get back when we're finished :)20:49
bioterroririshman2020, becouse that OWA is, well you can think a negative adjective by yourself20:51
irishman2020I know that OWA is crap, but I'm trying to figure out why its only on certain items.  If it was all items, ok, but it just seems odd20:51
irishman2020I tried to see if there was an evolution irc channel, but I've been unsuccessful20:52
irishman2020brb20:53
ereotavI cant get VB to recognize my zune21:16
MrChrisDruifVB ereotav?21:17
ereotavvirtualbox21:17
ereotavI have the software and everything running fine in virtualbox but i cant seem to get ti to recognize my zune21:18
MrChrisDruifI was thinking in another direction....21:18
MrChrisDruifI've heard (haven't got a source) but that doesn't work in vb....or ubuntu...you'd have to dual-boot with Windows...21:20
MrChrisDruifOr ask someone else :)21:20
ereotavI have heard it works but thanks anyways21:20
doezEvening. I've got a problem with my msn-clients. It quite often disconnects me from sending any messages to my partner while leaving no errormessage or anything. I have tried aMSN and Pidgin, they do the same thing. Does anyone have a solution?22:04
MrChrisDruifWhich version of Pidgin?22:05
MrChrisDruifOlder versions got connection problems :)22:05
MrChrisDruifProbably the same with aMSN22:06
doezPidgin version: 2.7.322:06
MrChrisDruifDefault from repositories?22:07
doezYes.22:07
MrChrisDruifI've got the PPA installed from www.pidgin.im and it's at 2.7.922:08
MrChrisDruifNo problems with that one :)22:08
doezI'll upgrade to that and check it out22:08
doezI wonder if I have GDebi though.22:08
MrChrisDruifWhich Ubuntu?22:09
doez10.1022:09
MrChrisDruifThen it uses Software Center...22:09
doezIt does.22:09
doezOh, repositories isnt the same as Software Center?22:09
MrChrisDruifBut you can install Gdebi and by going to the properties of a deb select gdebi as default for deb...22:10
doezOh okay.22:10
MrChrisDruifNo, repositories is what the center use to find it's software :)22:10
doezSigh. Now nautilus has crashed.22:10
MrChrisDruifAnd by adding a ppa you add more repos22:10
doezCool22:11
doezI have to do a reboot. But thanks for your help!22:11
Red-Ravenhey.22:26
MrChrisDruifHai red :)22:26
Red-Ravenback to get my server done.22:26
MrChrisDruifAlright :)22:26
Red-Ravenhey MrAnthrope!22:26
MrChrisDruifAlmost Red-Raven :)22:27
Red-Ravenoh sry.22:27
Red-Raventoo much trust in tab completion.22:27
MrChrisDruifIt's alright, you only pinged someone else :)22:27
Red-Raventhat should be funny.22:27
MrChrisDruifBefore everyone called me ChanServ :P22:28
Red-Ravenoh lol.22:28
Red-Ravenso, now to get my port open.22:28
MrChrisDruifOnly MichealH keeps calling me MrChanServ for some eerie reason <_<"22:28
Red-RavenAHG! MS just blinded me. i turned on my MS mouse with Blue Light tech or whatever. while the underside was facing me.22:30
MrChrisDruifNever Thrust MIcrosoft :P22:30
Red-RavenWHAT!?22:30
Red-Raven(lol jk) i know what you meant.22:30
Red-Ravenalright so here's what going on. i have SSH in the app section, my custom port # in start and end, Both selected for protocol, and the inet IP of the PC im using as a server under IP. yet a port checking website still says it's blocked.22:33
MrChrisDruifI know zilch from SSH :)22:34
MrChrisDruif:P22:34
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Have you tried just connecting to your IP?22:34
Red-Ravenfrom a client?22:34
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Yes22:34
Red-Ravenaveilleux,  nope.22:34
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Get your IP from http://whatismyip.com/22:34
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Then just ssh -p <port> <user>@<ip_address>22:34
MrChrisDruif-p?22:35
aveilleuxMrChrisDruif: Custom ports in SSH require the -p flag22:35
Red-Ravenok. but that ip is not the IP of the server.22:35
aveilleuxRed-Raven: It is for a remote user.22:35
MrChrisDruifBut what does it stand for aveilleux?22:36
aveilleuxMrChrisDruif: ....port?22:36
MrChrisDruifAlright...just checking/learning :)22:36
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Wait, the inet IP? No you want the local IP22:36
Red-Ravenoh. thx!22:36
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Oh wait no, "inet" = "internal network"22:37
Red-Ravenso do use inet?22:37
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Yes, sorry22:38
aveilleuxRed-Raven: ifconfig |grep Bcast |grep inet\ addr:22:39
Red-Ravensok. so the IP whatsmyip.com gave me is the same on both my laptop and desktop. why? what is that IP for?22:39
aveilleuxRed-Raven: The highlighted IP is the one you want22:39
aveilleuxRed-Raven: It's the IP address of your router.22:39
Red-Ravenoh ok.22:39
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Both of those computers connect to the router, THEN the Internet.22:39
Red-Ravenik. so i don't need to point my client to the servers IP? just the rueter which will then point it to my server via the forwarded port?22:40
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Yes, that's the point of part forwarding.22:40
Red-Ravenok got it.22:41
aveilleuxRed-Raven: s/part/port22:41
Red-Ravenwhats that for?22:41
aveilleuxRed-Raven: What's what for?22:41
Red-Ravens/part/port?22:42
MrChrisDruifBa-bye guys :)22:42
aveilleuxRed-Raven: It's called a "regular expression". s/this/that means "replace 'this' with 'that'"22:42
Red-Ravenand do i need to run it?22:42
aveilleuxRed-Raven: N-no, I was correcting myself22:43
aveilleuxRed-Raven: It's not a command22:43
aveilleuxRed-Raven: In my sentence above:22:43
aveilleux<aveilleux> Red-Raven: Yes, that's the point of part forwarding.22:43
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Replace "part" with "port"22:43
Red-Ravenohhhhhh ok sorry.22:43
Red-Raveni get it now.22:43
Red-Ravenyah that didn't make much sense as a command.22:44
Red-RavenBRB. got to boot into Ubuntu so i can connect. im sure you can in windows to but i'd rather start with ubuntu. thx!22:45
Red-Ravenhey.22:49
Red-Ravencan you give me the command again that connects me to the server?22:50
nit-witRed-Raven, you want the freenode sever?23:05
nit-wit*server23:06
Red-Ravencan someone please give me the command someone posted earlier to connect a client to a server/23:39
Red-Raven?*23:39
holsteinRed-Raven: 17:35 <+aveilleux> Red-Raven: Then just ssh -p <port> <user>@<ip_address>23:42
Red-Raventhx!23:46
Red-Ravensyntax error near unexpected token: 22. fudge.23:48
Red-Ravenugh! its still blocked by something!23:56
Red-Ravenwtf. now a port checker is telling me that port 80 is closed. which it cant be.23:58

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