[00:20] hey all [00:20] adam@adam-desktop:~$ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel [00:20] adam@adam-desktop:~$ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel [00:20] adam@adam-desktop:~$ pkill gnome-panel [00:20] oops [00:21] my cairo dock is doing this [00:21] http://img413.imageshack.us/i/screen1bn.png [00:21] !pastebin | adtoes [00:21] adtoes: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:22] adtoes: Could you use a different image host, something like imgur.com? Imageshack doesn't agree with my computer very well. [00:22] ok [00:24] http://imgur.com/nPnKw [00:24] http://imgur.com/4iPhE [00:25] adtoes: Ahh, I see. Cairo's not spanning across the monitors properly. [00:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/556386/ [00:25] is that how i do that pastebin? [00:28] adtoes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cairo-dock-core/+bug/549683 for the Cairo fix [00:28] Launchpad bug 549683 in cairo-dock-core "Dock not correctly drawn on multi screen using cairo backend" [Medium,Fix committed] [00:28] adtoes: As for the panels, what happens when you try to add a panel? [00:29] adtoes: Also http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html [00:30] ya i tried that : http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html [00:30] adtoes: Or http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7437921&postcount=2 [00:34] eeek [00:34] that crashed my comp [00:35] lol [00:36] when i typed: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [00:36] it put me into just a black dialog [00:38] Interesting [00:38] Yeah [00:38] Did it log you out? like, a black screen with a login [00:38] is there somewhere i gui to just add a panel? [00:38] from there i could only get to a tty1 [00:38] adtoes: I don't know of a way to add a panel without a panel to right-click on [00:39] the buy who posted that code hasn't replied since it screwed my panels up [00:39] *guy [00:39] adtoes: When you do /etc/init.d/gdm stop does the black screen say "login:"? [00:39] nope [00:40] adtoes: Okay, well... write those commands down [00:40] i can type stuff but nothing happens [00:40] adtoes: Then run /etc/init.d/gdm stop [00:40] ya god plan [00:40] wait for the rest of the instructions [00:40] i'll be back lol [00:40] wait [00:40] k [00:40] then hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 [00:40] log in through the text interface [00:40] then run the commands [00:40] once you're done, run sudo reboot [00:41] then come back here [00:41] ok ty very much man!!! [00:46] aveilleux: damn [00:48] adtoes: No luck? [00:48] aveilleux: negative [00:48] just reset my themes, icons and backgrounds [00:48] how do you get a name infront of what you type? [00:49] adtoes: I start typing the name then hit tab [00:49] adtoes: nice sweet [00:49] aveilleux: just like term [00:49] adtoes: Yeah. Though you have to make the part you type unique enough to be guessed. [00:50] ya i getchia [00:50] aveilleux: i getchia [00:50] adtoes: something you can try is reinstalling gnome-panel [00:51] adtoes: in Terminal: sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel --purge && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel [00:52] aveilleux: i try now :) [00:52] then a re-boot? [00:52] adtoes: yeah [00:52] aveilleux: or logout then back in? [00:53] k [00:53] aveilleux: brb [00:55] aveilleux: buddy [00:58] adtoes: hm? [00:58] aveilleux: <3 [00:58] aveilleux: lol [00:58] adtoes: You're welcome :P [00:58] yes ty sooooo much [00:59] aveilleux: after remove gnome-panel --purge [00:59] aveilleux: whats the purge do? [01:00] adtoes: It removes the system-level configuration for that package [01:00] aveilleux: system level? [01:00] adtoes: in /etc [01:00] aveilleux: oh [01:00] aveilleux: ill read up on it [01:01] aveilleux: now to figure out the whole cairo issue [02:55] I have installed 10.4 netbook on my ASUS and I am having trouble using my ethernet port Maybe I don't have it set up right [02:59] OK, here's another problem I'm having ... my cursor jumps around when I type sometimes [03:18] I have netbook 10.4 installed in an ASUS and it doesn't and I can't connect through ethernet cable port [04:21] why do i have 25 blocked updates mostly kde [04:25] egossett: could be for a few different reasons. if you're using PPAs or are running Natty, then the updates may be out but not for your system architecture. it could also be that an update conflicts with an installed package [04:25] ok [04:25] ddecator: ok thank you i do have ppa's so i will look at them [04:26] ddecator: not sure how to tell if i have conflicts [04:26] ddecator: but thanks for that response [04:27] egossett: that's fairly common if you're running 64-bit, the 32-bit update may have built but the 64-bit may have not for some reason. to see if you have conflicts, use synaptic to find the packages which have updates, mark them to update, and it will tell you if there are conflicts [04:27] ddecator: using 32 bit 10.04 lts with kde [04:27] more likely the latter then [04:28] unless the updates are from a PPA [04:28] is ppa in synpaic also [04:28] that's in Software [04:28] whoops [04:28] Software Sources* [04:28] found synpatic [04:29] if it's a lot of KDE stuff, the only PPA i can think of would be the KDE Beta PPA [04:29] what to search for in synpatic [04:30] the packages that were said to have updates. unfortunately there is no way to know which one is causing a conflict until you come across it. there might be a faster way to do this, but this is the only way i know [04:30] i see some that are highlight green with little star (kde) - must be the ones which are blocked [04:31] i think that means there is an update available for that package [04:33] ok doing that, said upgrade on some and update on some [04:33] now the ppa's are in software, will check there [04:39] beta PPA doesn't have lucid stuff, so it's either backports, or if he's not doing that then something's not right with 4.4.5 in lucid-updates [04:39] egossett: could you check which ppas you have? (if any of the kde ones) [04:40] yofel: ok thanks [04:40] yofel: the synaptic is running [04:40] ddecator: and yofel: i got error [04:41] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kopete_4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_i386.deb [04:41] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kopete_4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_i386.deb [04:41] well look at that :) [04:41] * yofel checks the ppa [04:41] thanks yofel [04:42] where is my list of ppa (sorry i cannot find this list) [04:43] egossett: that is odd - that file definitely exists [04:43] and I can download it fine here [04:43] hmmm [04:43] egossett: under "Software Sources" i think the tab is called "Third Party Sources" [04:43] ok one minute [04:44] or "Other Software" on 10.10 [04:44] my list includes 2 canonical and 2 launchpad [04:44] canonical would be partner I guess [04:44] launchpad ubuntu [04:44] launchpad tualatrix [04:44] launchpad kubuntu ppa [04:45] launchpad ubuntu ppa [04:45] i wonder why it can't downlod the update.. [04:45] download* [04:46] egossett: can you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in konsole and pastebin the output? [04:46] now i get message to update lopete and python kde 4 [04:47] yofel: ok i will run this one minute plss [04:48] i don't have konsole, i have terminal will that be ok [04:48] sure [04:48] duh konsole is same [04:48] hahahaha [04:49] hm, i just downloaded the deb without issue too [04:49] yofel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [04:49] [sudo] password for evalyn: [04:49] Reading package lists... Done [04:49] Building dependency tree [04:49] Reading state information... Done [04:49] Calculating upgrade... Done [04:49] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [04:49] evalyn@evalyn-E1705:~$ [04:49] !paste [04:49] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:50] egossett: that says you don't have any pending updates? [04:50] what the.. [04:51] ddecator: yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556431/ [04:51] you guys solve the problem [04:51] egossett: run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just in case [04:52] but it looks like everything updated [04:52] kk [04:53] copying to paste bin [04:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/556432/ [04:54] well, one of your PPAs is missing its key, but all of your updates are installed [04:55] where is the key [04:55] egossett: can you disable that ubuntu-doc/ppa ? [04:55] ok [04:56] then try again [04:56] as for the key... [04:56] run: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 632D16BB0C713DA6 [04:56] ubuntu doc ppa is disable [04:56] try again? which command [04:57] egossett: first apt-key, then the update/dist-upgrade from just now [04:57] I got message information about avaialble software is outof date should i reload? [04:58] run apt please [04:58] (sudo apt-get update will update the software cache) [04:59] egossett: if you're talking about when you disabled the PPA and it asked you to reload, then yes [04:59] i just closed it [05:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/556433/ [05:00] egossett: erm, I mean the apt-key command I posted [05:01] "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 632D16BB0C713DA6" without the quotes [05:01] at least the ubuntu-doc ppa was disabled [05:01] but it does seem that all updates were applied [05:01] yofel: sorry i missed that line [05:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/556434/ [05:03] ddecator: and yofel: you are awesome, must have fixed it. smile [05:03] good, so the key is all set. now run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" one more time [05:03] kk [05:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/556435/ [05:05] perfect. looks like you're all set :) [05:05] ddecator: thank you so much [05:05] yofel: thank you so much [05:05] egossett: any time, that's why we're here [05:06] I did learn a little something there, not all that you did but something [05:06] smile === IdleOne is now known as gpc [05:30] Hrm... /home/geo/.wine/drive_c/Program Files keeps making itself so I can't modify files in it. I turn permissions back on and it disables them shortly afterwards. [05:33] wine: /home/geo/.wine is not owned by you [05:35] And now it's not even letting me see files or folders within Program Files unless I'm root. [05:44] Anyone here? The last few times, no one seems to answer... [05:44] I'm here. Also waiting for an answer :) [05:45] there are a few people here. sorry MrAnthrope i didn't respond because i'm not sure how to address your problem [05:45] :) [05:59] so here's my question: I have 2 instances of "Broadcast" in my top panel. One shows me as logged in, and the other not. This happened all of a sudden. [06:00] if you log out and back in, are there still two icons? [06:01] It doesn't matter what I do, the two stay. [06:01] If I remove Gwibber from my STartup Apps, then one appears. [06:02] ooooh, are you seeing two of the envelope icons or two listings for "Broadcast" in the drop-down? [06:04] 2 Broadcast icons [06:04] In the dropdown. [06:04] Two listings for Broadcast in the dropdown. [06:04] can you run "top" without the quotes in a terminal and see if there are two gwibber processes? [06:06] Unless I'm blind, I don't Gwibber at all, there. [06:07] hmm, i think the process should be called gwibber-service [06:08] Don't see it. [06:09] odd, and gwibber is definitely running right now? [06:09] I don't know. One instance shows it as logged in, and the other instance shows it as not logged in. [06:10] When I open SYstem Monitor, it shows 9 instances of Gwibber-service [06:10] all of them "sleeping" [06:11] that's very strange. try running "killall gwibber-service" which should end those processes, then restart gwibber [06:14] I did that. Broadcast appeared as one instance. [06:14] I then clicked on it, to log in. [06:14] It now shows two instances again. [06:14] i wonder if the problem is with the applet and not gwibber.. [06:14] Just all of a sudden? [06:15] have you installed any updates lately? [06:15] yes [06:16] and update could have caused it [06:17] hmm [06:17] an* [06:18] i'm honestly not sure what the best option would be. resetting the panel seems extreme and i'm not sure that would make any difference...someone else might have an idea [06:19] ok [06:20] There are a couple of threads on Ubuntu about it. [06:20] But not a single answer. [07:42] Sometimes my screen fades to black and white and the app I'm using crashes. Does anyone know how to turn off fading to black and white? Or why it's doing it in the first place? [07:43] MrAnthrope, you can start with Xorg.0.log [08:36] What's the difference between a kernel and a Device/Login Manager? [08:41] !kernel [08:41] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [08:41] !gdm [08:41] Factoid 'gdm' not found [08:41] ? [08:42] !kdm [08:42] Factoid 'kdm' not found [08:42] o.o [08:43] Well, a Login Manager is the authentication layer between Xorg (soon to be replaced with Wayland) and transfers control to the approriate DM (or Desktop Manager) [08:43] charliemac: ^^ Answered your question? or more in-depth is needed? [08:45] Good question... [08:45] I am not sure whether I should install DSL (DamSmalLinux) or Lubuntu on my laptop. [08:47] charliemac: What are you looking for? [08:47] I need to replace WinXp and I want it basic and efficient. [08:48] *With room to develop/expand/enhance [08:48] *In terms of capabilities [08:50] How does Ubuntu/Lubuntu compare with Knoppix, RedHat, DSL (DamSmalLinux), and Mint? [09:02] Sorry, charliemac. Should include my name. And I'm not too sure. [09:02] !knoppix [09:02] Factoid 'knoppix' not found [09:02] !redhat [09:02] Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems) [09:02] Well, I can tell you this. Lubuntu's the "lighter" edition of Ubuntu, designed to run on 0.125 GB (128MB RAM) and with limited resources. [09:03] It's the ideal system for older computers [09:03] ^^ charliemac [09:24] Can "Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 532 supporting HT Technology (1M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 533 MHz FSB)" support 64-bit? [09:26] lshw -class cpu # check the width [09:29] Wikipedia says 90nm [09:31] as does ;P [09:33] It seems so. [09:34] JackyAlcine: What seems so? [09:35] that the Pentinum4 532 can handle 64-bit apps [09:40] lshw -class cpu | grep width gives me width: 64 bits [09:41] (completely different processor though, I just assumed you were running Ubuntu) [09:42] Can Pentium 4 532 HT support the 64-bit ubuntu? [09:43] If it's a 64-bit processor, which JackyAlcine apparently has googled for you [09:43] That link seems to suggest it's only 32 bit (the intel.com one) [09:43] Ah yes, didn't see that until now, it says the instruction set is 32 bit [09:44] So no, you need the 32-bit [09:44] That's true... But seems to suggest that a Pentium 4 "Prescott" works... [09:45] Perhaps it simply isn't 5x1 or F series? [09:46] Appears so [09:54] I had terrible performance on my new computer until I realized my processor was 64 bit and I had installed 32 bit Ubuntu. [10:05] Hello. [10:58] Hey Silver_Fox_ [10:58] Hello JackyAlcine . [10:58] How are you? [10:59] *yawns* Just a bit tired; it's pretty early @ UTC -5 [10:59] how about you? [11:01] I am fine thank you JackyAlcine . [11:01] Just looking at load averages [11:51] is there a " [11:51] channel for #lubuntu-beginners ? [11:51] How can I access #lubuntu ? [11:51] /join #lubuntu [12:01] hey guys. i need help finishing up my SSH server. [12:02] i got it DLd, so now i guess i need to open port 22 and take down the rueter's firewall on that port. [12:02] how do i lower the firewall? [12:03] (I can open the port.) [12:05] Is it safe to interrupt WinXP installation in order to overwrite the hard drive with #lubuntu ? [12:06] charliemac: I'm assuming so. FAT32 is more "robust" than EXT* file systems so not that much damage would be caused. [12:06] Or any other kind of #ubuntu ? [12:06] probably. as long as that install has nothing to do with the lubuntu partition (but get a second opinion. i've only been here a month now.) [12:08] What if I'm trying to install ubuntu from the previously external hard drive which now has Lubuntu's ISO unpacked as the contents of the recovery partition? [12:08] Without a cd-rom? [12:11] I guess I can just wait for XP to finish and then access the recovery partition through windows explorer... [12:12] Can I create a Lubuntu partition from within winxp? [12:12] yup. [12:12] hey can i use port 84 for my SSH? [12:13] Will I then be able to bypass winxp and boot straight into Lubuntu? [12:15] sort of. on start up you will get the GRUB menu. from there you pick which OS you want. if you don't pick in 10 seconds it auto boots into whatever primary Linux Distro (in this case Lubuntu) you have. [12:15] charliemac: is your lubuntu already installed? on the separate/external hard drive? if so how did you install it? [12:15] can anyone here help me out with this SSH server? [12:16] Red-Raven: i believe you could use any port as long as you need to access it from outside, you gotta have that port do port forwarding in your router. [12:16] JoeMaverickSett: it isn't installed but its ISO is unpacked into the recovery partion of the same hard drive. I was using it externally on a separate PC [12:17] ok thx. [12:21] I just installed 10.4 netbook on my ASUS and I can't get my ethernet port to work. [12:23] How can I choose which partition to open from the GRUB menu? The only boot options are Hard Drive, Floppy Disc, Cd-ROM, and Network, as far as I can tell, apparently without regard for partitions. #lubuntu ? [12:26] thats not GRUB then. thats BIOS. [12:27] how many HDDs are pluged in? [12:28] Red-Raven: did you get your SSH Server finished? [12:28] no. which IP do i put in for port forwarding? [12:29] is it the IP of the machine im putting the server on? [12:31] Red-Raven: what ever port is specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config [12:31] no i know the port. [12:32] what i need to know is what IP do i put in the box for port forwarding? [12:32] Red-Raven: oh, i am sorry. MisreAD your question :P [12:32] Sok/ [12:32] .* [12:34] (not trying to nag, but i don't have much time. i want to get it working so i can test it at school today) [12:37] Red-Raven: i have not set up port forwarding before with SSH [12:38] ok. have you port forwarded something else? i opened the port but multiple websites say its still closed. [12:39] Red-Raven: let's say this computer you're using is going to be accessed, therefore port forward to this. [12:39] hmm. Have you set the iptable on your SSH server computer. [12:40] so port forward to the computer the server will be running on? [12:40] something like: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT [12:40] is it a config file i can change as root? [12:40] Red-Raven: you could either set the computer to use static ip or let the router reserve a static ip for this computer by defining with MAC address. [12:40] or open with: gksudo gedit ... [12:41] ok. so which IP from the server do i use? inet or Bcast? (from ifconfig) [12:42] Red-Raven: inet [12:42] i have forwarded that to the port i picked. [12:42] Red-Raven: and i think you should have a static ip for that ubuntu box. [12:42] but multiple port checkers say its still closed. [12:44] Red-Raven: so you used network tools to port scan your router? [12:44] no. just a port checking website. [12:46] could it be firewalled somehow? [12:47] Red-Raven: have you set the iptable on the computer to allow ssh. This command should open the port. iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT [12:47] anyone know where I can find a tutorial on setting up network applet 0.8 [12:47] Red-Raven: try what duanedesign has suggested. :) [12:49] i put sudo in front, put in my password, and nothing happened. did it work? [12:50] a port checking site said its still closed. [12:50] Red-Raven: iptables -L <--will tell you if it saved [12:50] walkkenn: hello [12:51] walkkenn: Are you looking to install network manager 0.8 [12:51] done. what am i looking for? [12:52] Red-Raven: should look similar to the command [12:52] no i mean the output. [12:52] how do i tell if it was saved? [12:53] ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh [12:53] something like that^ [12:53] yup. [12:53] i have that. [12:55] walkkenn: there is a PPA that has the daily builds: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:network-manager/trunk [12:55] well i got to go. ill tty once im at school. [12:55] i go in early. [13:12] hey. so thers not mauch i can do now (im at school). [13:12] if the server was up and running, how would i connect ? [13:14] hi all - anyone know how to configure ubuntu to use traditional ifup instead of network manager ui? [13:16] smudgy: You edit /etc/network/interfaces [13:16] network manager should ignore interfaces set up in that file. [13:17] man interfaces explains the format, and there's a page in the server guide or on the wiki about it too [13:18] i've been thru that tnx [13:18] defined my eth0 iface [13:18] Sorry, got distracted. applet 0.8 installed and wifi works good http://paste.ubuntu.com/556509/ [13:18] Can't seem to get the ethernet cable to work [13:19] even tried to get rid of NM (but didn't select to remove files) [13:19] so now i can run ifdown ifup but it isn;t quite functional [13:20] nm is still somehow interfering [13:20] I got the MAC address for the wired input [13:22] i'll keep beavering away from time to time. luckily suse has a gui that sets networking to be done via traditional ifup and i need to find out what it does so that i can get ubuntu to work on resume. [13:23] otherwise suspend etc works fine once you just use the correct boot parameter (grub1 easier) ;>) [13:25] geirha: thanks for the reply anyway === head_v is now known as head_victim === head_victim is now known as head_victim_lapy === head_victim_lapy is now known as head_victim [14:27] Hello Everyone! [14:57] How can I make sure that my USB flash drive is bootable? [15:00] charliemac: use unetbootin - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net and download the .exe file if you're on windows [15:01] Ok, I've done that already. The issue i'm having is getting the target machine to boot from it [15:02] charliemac: stick in the usb into your pc, reboot the pc, look at the option to boot from, mine says "F12 Boot Options", hit that option, choose USB [15:03] The problem is that when I'm in the boot menu, there is no USB option [15:04] charliemac: Is your PC very old [15:04] ? [15:05] charliemac: did you check if your BIOS supports USB booting? [15:05] How can I check that? [15:06] charliemac: probably the documentations that came along with the pc or online documentation about the pc? [15:07] It looks like this one came out in 2005, gateway 7330gz . [15:08] What section of the online documentation would that likely be under? . === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:15] I think it's likely that you can't boot of USB [15:15] So you need to use a CD [15:17] Oh :| lol [15:24] Szh: Looks like my computer is from 2005 . I don't want to boot from a cd because I don't know how to confirm the downloaded ISO in the first place, I am a little confused by the description in the documentation ... [15:49] Where do I find the correct data required to run the Md5Sum on the Lubuntu 10.10 ISO, which I downloaded directly from lubuntu.net? [15:54]