[01:55] robert_ancell, just FYI, i got an answer to my gir from vala sources question... you can generate the GIR from valac [01:55] instead of using g-ir-scanner [01:55] which works much better for vala sources [01:55] :) [02:18] ./c === asac_ is now known as asac [02:46] kenvandine, awesome [02:46] kenvandine, what version of vala? [02:46] the 0.12 series [02:46] pass --gir [02:46] or can do it with autotools nicely [02:47] of course now i am beating myself up trying to generate decent docs [02:47] i think i need to package valadoc [02:47] which generates gtk-doc style docs for vala [02:50] kenvandine, oh, that's something I was looking for this morning - has anyone got a gir -> documentation program working? [02:50] no [02:51] there is someone that seems to have gotten something going [02:51] using seed and JS [02:51] but nothing that seems usable yet [02:51] until we get that, the docs we generate won't be all that good [02:52] at least from what i have found, nobody has gotten there yet === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:41] pitti: hi, so we are switching to LibreOffice for Natty, right? [08:44] Good morning [08:44] bryceh: apport crashes> not from my side [08:44] evilvish: yes, the upload already happened [08:44] pitti: neat! thanks.. :) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === smspillaz is now known as SmSpillaz [09:48] hey === SmSpillaz is now known as smspillaz [09:50] good morning seb128 [09:50] morning [09:54] lut didrocks [09:54] hey rodrigo_ [09:54] sorry I'm a bit late today [09:54] hi seb128 [09:56] didrocks, rodrigo_: how are you? [09:56] seb128, fine, and you? [09:56] seb128: I'm fine, thanks, you? [09:56] same ;-) [09:56] hey rodrigo_ ;) [09:56] everything is alright [09:56] running the new unity ;-) [09:56] :) [09:56] salut didrocks [09:57] seb128, does it work ok for you now? [09:57] yes [09:57] didrocks, is the right corner not working for you as well? [09:57] the session indicator doesn't open if I'm really in the corner [09:57] ok, known bug [09:58] just reading my bug emails [09:58] seb128: no, I see some bug reports about it, but can't reproduce it, I'm still not on the new indicator stack though, just need a reboot [09:58] ok [09:58] hmm, new indicator stack, I guess that should fix the invisible menus problem I was seeing? [09:59] rodrigo_: yes, if what you what is no menu at all :) [09:59] I had no menu at all, so I want my menus back :-D [09:59] dist-upgrade should be fine now [10:03] ok, let's reboot the session with the new stack, brb [10:05] excellent, all is working well [10:05] … apart from the stacking issue [10:05] so, restarting compiz [10:05] seb128: so yeah, confirming now the top-left corner dead zone [10:06] k [10:09] didrocks, yeah but sladen set the bug as incomplete asking for a screenshot for some reason [10:09] seb128: let me confirm it [10:09] thanks [10:09] I will comment as well [10:10] thanks :) [10:10] french cabale \o/ [10:12] seb128: groovy if you can, I couldn't reproduce it---I was wondering if it was theme-dependent [10:13] sladen, do you run the current unity version? [10:13] it makes 3 people getting it since the upgrade it seems [10:13] seb128: I can't change the importance in launchpad, can you try to do it? [10:14] seb128: FSVO latest; last update was yesterday afternoon(?), but there could have been an upload since then [10:14] I have the javascript popup, but clicking on it has no effect [10:14] didrocks, works on the ubuntu task [10:14] I don't have permissions on the upstream bug [10:15] seb128: thanks, not that important in any case… [10:15] sladen, right, there was an upload on thursday night as every week [10:15] sladen, the version is included in the apport infos [10:42] rodrigo_, did you see my ping on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/649809? [10:42] Launchpad bug 649809 in gnome-settings-daemon "Meerkat (10.10) does not apply theme properly" [Low,Confirmed] [10:42] it's a weird bug but quite some users get it [10:42] they get [10:42] "** (gnome-settings-daemon:1641): WARNING **: You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting [10:42] ** (gnome-settings-daemon:1641): WARNING **: Unable to start xsettings manager: Could not initialize xsettings manager." [10:43] but don't have another settings manager running [10:43] seems most people having it get it on session start on i7 with ssd config [10:43] seems a race on modern hardwares [10:43] do you have a clue what could be going on there [10:43] ? [10:53] seb128: comment #100 makes it sound like g-s-d is racing against gdm's g-s-d exiting [10:56] seb128, no, looking [10:57] ebroder, hum, but gdm is not running g-s-d for the same user [10:57] it's weird [10:57] seb128: but they both share an x server, no? [10:59] ebroder, not sure what gdm is doing, if it's opening a new xorg session or reusing the gdm one for the session [10:59] pitti, ^ do you know? [11:56] seb128, hmm, about bug #649809, I think I know what it is [11:56] Launchpad bug 649809 in gnome-settings-daemon "Meerkat (10.10) does not apply theme properly" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649809 [11:56] rodrigo_, is that what ebroder suggested? [11:56] seb128, desrt had that problem, on very fast machines, the g-s-d from gdm is still running when the user's g-s-d is running [11:56] yes, ebroder's right [11:56] ok [11:56] how do we solve that? [11:57] hmm, let me find the bug in b.g.o [11:57] it's going to be hitting higher number of users over time [11:57] yeah [11:57] since new machines will not likely go slower [11:57] rodrigo_, thanks [12:01] seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634988 [12:01] Gnome bug 634988 in xsettings "my computer is too fast" [Normal,New] [12:01] seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634988 [12:01] a gdm bug [12:11] seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634988 [12:11] Gnome bug 634988 in xsettings "my computer is too fast" [Normal,New] === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:11] seb128, looking at gdm, to see if I can cook a quick fix [13:15] seb128: do you have some time today for the release meeting? I'll be travelling at that time [13:15] good morning [13:15] hey cyphermox [13:15] hey didrocks [13:16] bonjour cyphermox, what's the expected timetable of network manager 0.9? [13:17] Riddell, I was once told shortly after christmas, but from the looks of things, it might still be a few weeks. I'll ask [13:18] cyphermox: hmm, so are you expecting it for natty? [13:18] pitti, hey [13:19] pitti, ok, no problem, did you have time to update the wiki? [13:19] Riddell, I thought so, but I'm not holding my breath now [13:19] pitti, is there anything I should know about? [13:19] seb128: I didn't update the wiki yet, sorry [13:19] seb128: the main problem is the LibO CD overflow, I didn't get to know another one [13:19] let me look it up properly and maybe I can make the call today [13:19] cyphermox: hmm, but it's an API change right, so it'll almost certainly break the kde frontend [13:19] right [13:20] seb128: I discussed that with doko; he'll upload a new version in time for a2 for dropping the recommends [13:20] so far though, there is only wimax added [13:20] seb128: and the balooning of -common is a known problem which we'll hopefully fix in time for release (we need the humanity icons back) [13:22] pitti, ok [13:22] pitti, do you want me to update the wiki or will you do it before travelling? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:22] seb128: if you could, that'd be great [13:22] I'd still like to wrap up some things here [13:23] ok, will do [13:23] pitti, was the week a productive one? [13:23] seb128: merci [13:23] seb128: absolutely, yes; I'll blog about it next Monday [13:23] great ;-) [13:25] Riddell, what happened to your patch piloting day this week? [13:26] the queue got quite some easy sponsoring which nobody picked this week it seems [13:27] seb128: it was unfortunate enough to land on my swap day and now I'm busy with KDE SC 4.6.0 [13:27] I hope to do some patch piloting next week [13:28] Riddell, ok, I figured you might have been not working that day, I'm wondering if we should trying to swap piloting in those cases or whoever is not there should find someone to swap with or something [13:28] will talk to dholbach about that [13:29] Riddell, I think I rather stay with 0.8, unless there is something really good and 0.9 gets tagged before FF; the indicator patch is big enough a change for me I think [13:29] seb128: yes I think I should have done that [13:30] Riddell, ok, next time then ;-) [13:31] cyphermox: I expect that using 0.9 would result in breaking Kubuntu so I'd strongly support keeping 0.8 (this happened during the switch to 0.8 and it wasn't pleasant) [13:41] ok, then that's good enough of a reason to wait until next cycle... and if 0.9 gets released early, I'll put it in a PPA === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [13:54] hmm.. seems like stuff like menus (and notifications) are still painting behind windows or the desktop... distracting ;) [13:55] yes, known bug [13:55] didrocks, what's the bug number? [13:56] cyphermox: don't have it handy for now :) [13:56] cyphermox: it's a compiz bug, stacking issue [13:56] ah ok :) === james is now known as Guest58598 [14:21] anyone else having weird mouse input issues? [14:22] kenvandine, like not being able to click a rectangular area in the top-left corner of the screen? [14:22] Hmm... How do I access the "preferred handlers" configuration thingamajig in Natty? [14:22] Or "preferred applications" or whatever it was called before. [14:22] like in evolution, i can click on the scrollbar in the message and scroll it but in the mailboxes scrollbar i can't do anything with it? [14:23] and i can't select text in gnome-terminal [14:23] soren: gnome-default-applications-properties ? [14:23] pitti: Yeah, that's the one. Thanks. [14:24] pitti: Is it in the UI anywhere? [14:24] very frustrating :) [14:24] This is the first time I've used unity :) [14:24] soren: we don't have the main menu back et [14:24] "yet" [14:24] kenvandine, if that only occurs in the top left area of the screen, try opening and closing places briefly ;) [14:24] it happens to me too, and that's what gord recommended [14:24] pitti: Alrighty. np. [14:24] pitti: I'll stop searching for it, then :) [14:24] chrisccoulson, ah ha! [14:24] that did it [14:25] that is weird [14:25] so weird to be able to use one scrollbar in an app but not another one in the same app [14:25] chrisccoulson, i also couldn't click on any tabs in firefox, but i could bring up the big tab view thing and select them [14:26] but now it can [14:26] gord, is there a bug filed on that? [14:31] I can't push to bzr right now? Is that expected [14:32] huh is LP down? [14:32] i can't push to bzr [14:33] oh "Launchpad: code host offline" in #launchpad [14:34] chrisccoulson, i got confused too. Odd that they don't update their identi.ca status page on such thing [14:34] s [14:34] mterry, oh, they don't? i have to admit, i didn't check that ;) [14:36] chrisccoulson, well, they didn't this time. I'll have to remember to check #launchpad first then [14:37] mterry, i think they might have fixed it already. i just tried again, and it seemed to work [14:37] chrisccoulson, yah, yup [14:37] yay \o/ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/globalmenu-extension/trunk/revision/73 [14:37] it worked :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [14:45] bratsche, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/gtk/ubuntu-f10/+merge/47044 [14:46] bratsche, for that branch to work like normal F10, we'd also want to patch indicator-appmenu to dismiss menus when it gets the right accel press [14:47] mterry, hey [14:47] mterry, let me know if that should land today [14:47] seb128, it's not urgent, would rather have it well reviewed than not [14:47] I was about to push and upload to other pending patch but got blocker due to launchpadcode being down [14:48] mterry, ok, so I will upload the other patch and we can get that in the next upload [14:48] seb128, sure [14:53] hmmmm, i wonder if i need to handle F10 in firefox too [14:53] i can't remember what it did before ;) [14:58] oh, it does nothing [15:01] mterry_: Awesome! [15:02] hmm, anyone else not able to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad? synaptic wants to remove the rest of gstreamer to install it, can't figure out why though [15:02] bratsche, I looked into the java thing too. Seems like SWT isn't emitting the 'realize' signal? I asked upstream about it [15:03] mterry_: Awesome * 2! [15:03] :) [15:21] good day everyone [15:23] hey bcurtiswx [15:23] so build didn't work still... [15:23] seb128, correct [15:24] bcurtiswx, try asking to cjwatson maybe he knows about that new error [15:24] seb128, OK will do [15:25] or build it with --no-as-needed as a workaround [15:26] ok, time to catch the train, good bye and have a nice weekend! [15:27] pitti, ok, have fun [15:27] pitti, just wanted to discuss disabling the apport code which prevents filing bugs for assertions without a message [15:27] but we can do that next week ;-) [15:28] seems people keep running into crashes and can't report them because of that [15:28] seems we should not confuse users but rather see on launchpad if they are useful or not [15:33] enjoy your week-end pitti [15:35] hey didrocks , thanks for the quick reviews [15:37] cyphermox: you're welcome, just wanting for code hosting to be up again to push the branches [15:38] I'm looking at another small thing though, looks like one plugin may have been dropped from 2.32, trying to figure out whether it's the case or if it's just no longer built [15:38] * kenvandine twiddles thumbs waiting for bzr to work again :/ [15:38] didrocks, so yeah, the face plugin appears to be missing, I'd like to push that too in the evo stuff I did [15:39] cyphermox: I've already sponsored the package, that will be for next upload :) [15:39] ah, ok ;) [15:47] seb128: as regards bug #660417 I guess we don't need the patch anymore since we no longer set the virtual resolution in the gnome-settings-daemon, right? [15:47] Launchpad bug 660417 in gnome-desktop3 "the load_desired_settings patch needs to be upstreamed and updated" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660417 [15:47] tseliot, what do you call virtual resolution? [15:47] seb128: the "Virtual" option in xorg.conf [15:48] was is what this patch was about? [15:48] seb128: IIRC pitti dropped that patch [15:49] this patch was useful only because we needed to restart X in order to apply the virtual resolution [15:49] oh ok [15:49] right, so it's deprecated, thanks! [15:49] np [16:06] tseliot, I will drop it gnome-desktop as well in the next upload [16:06] seb128: sounds good to me === mterry_ is now known as mterry [16:11] yeah, launchpad code is back! [16:14] \o/ [16:14] excellent :) [16:14] yay [16:30] seb128 - can you approve stuff in new? [16:31] chrisccoulson, yes [16:31] or ping jdstrand, it's his archive day ;-) [16:32] seb128 - ah, i could do that ;) [16:41] Riddell, do you know about this one? [16:41] bug #684704 [16:41] Launchpad bug 684704 in qmf "qmf MIR or qtmobility change needed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684704 [16:42] seb128: hmm no, I've added a kubuntu tag and will take a look when I can [16:42] thanks [16:56] will we have libreoffice equivalents of the -hyphenation*, -thesaurus* and -style-human that oo currently has? === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth [17:04] seb128: thanks for the compizconfig-python sponsoring [17:04] didrocks, you're welcome [17:12] kenvandine, could you review and sponsor lp:~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/empathy/empathy-fix-666288 if it's ok? [17:13] yup === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [17:15] kenvandine, thanks [17:18] micahg, hey [17:18] hi seb128 [17:18] micahg, could you do a debdiff for the sur on bug #695728? [17:18] Launchpad bug 695728 in gnome-python-extras "python-gtkmozembed should depend on xulrunner" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695728 [17:18] micahg, the only thing to sponsor is for natty it seems? [17:18] seb128: both natty and maverick were uploaded [17:18] ok, I'm fixing the bug status then, thanks [17:19] unsubscribing sponsors as well [17:19] seb128: err, maverick wasn't accepted yet [17:19] micahg, right, but you need ubuntu-sru, not ubuntu-sponsors [17:19] micahg, the sponsors do the upload, the sru team review the queue [17:20] right, I think my sponsor forgot to do that, fixing now [17:20] micahg, ok, I did fix it [17:20] so don't bother [17:20] thanks ;-) [17:21] seb128: thanks [17:21] im adding almost every .c/.h file in empathy to chat_SOURCES.. seems like i shouldn't have to [17:22] bcurtiswx, well are those used by the empathy-indicator source? [17:22] bcurtiswx, you should basically have to add the same list that was in the hand written section [17:22] seb128, i am plus some.. i'll keep going until i can't add any more i guess [17:25] rickspencer3, kenvandine: I pushed lp:~bratsche/libgrip/python-fixage-wip but it's still behaving kind of strangely. Normally it doesn't work, but when I set a breakpoint at the program startup and hit continue then it seems to work. [17:25] seb128, can i link empathy_handwritten_sources to empathy_chat_sources before empathy_handwritten_sources is defined? [17:26] bcurtiswx, no and you should not do that [17:26] rickspencer3, kenvandine: Do you guys know anyone who might have time to peek into this? I need to be focusing on some webkit and maybe a little gtk stuff now. [17:26] seb128, OK [17:26] i didn't but i was curious [17:26] bcurtiswx, what I mean is that you should probably add the same sources that were in the 2.32 patch [17:27] bratsche, i can try, is there any signal handling done? [17:28] we just figured out that currently GI expects you to do the signal handling with pygobject instead... which i can't see how that could possible work [17:28] bratsche, how can i test it without the hardware? [17:29] kenvandine: I'm not sure what you mean. [17:29] Oh, right. [17:29] Uhh. [17:29] I'm not sure. [17:30] right now you need to provide some gesture to trigger it right? [17:31] seb128, in 2.32 version there is no empathy_chat_SOURCES [17:31] well that's why I said in the "handwritten" [17:31] what happened to libgrope? that was a much better name ;) [17:31] kenvandine: Yeah. [17:32] seb128, finally... [17:32] seb128, its back to how it _should_ be.. webkit issues because we don't ahve the most recent webkit in gnome3 ppa [17:32] kenvandine: Let me find out if there's a way to force geis to generate an event. Hang on. [17:33] * bcurtiswx has a new respect for tediousness [17:34] bratsche, ok, i am stepping away to eat... but will read scrollback [17:34] bcurtiswx, great [17:34] kenvandine: Okay sounds good. I should do the same thing. [17:34] bcurtiswx, natty has webkit 1.3.10 [17:35] bcurtiswx, seems the gtk3 binaries are still in NEW [17:35] but once they are NEWed you can use this one [17:36] seb128, will do. for now i'm going to see if it build with --disable-webkit and then push to GNOME3 PPA if it works [17:37] great [17:38] kenvandine, do you think you could fix gtk2 for the same issue than you just fixed in gtk3? [17:38] the gir stacked probably changed or something, the gtk2 upload I just did failed in a similar way to what gtk3 was doing [17:39] cyphermox, impressive work on the eds and evo updates! [17:40] cyphermox, btw subscribe ubuntu-desktop to your merge requests rather than didrocks [17:40] seb128, i'll have to check into it more, but if empathy-2.91.5.1 deps are fulfilled in natty (non gnome 3) would it go into natty? [17:41] cyphermox, robert_ancell updated the version tracking to show ubuntu-desktop merge requests [17:41] so they would show there [17:41] he's also doing quite some sponsoring for things showing on it [17:41] cyphermox, could you also check on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-rss/+bug/688776, there is a merge request which seems to require some tweaks [17:41] Launchpad bug 688776 in evolution-rss "evolution-rss broken in Natty" [Medium,Triaged] [17:41] bcurtiswx, no [17:42] OK just wondering [17:42] bcurtiswx, natty will not have gtk3 on the CD [17:42] ah, i'll remember that [17:42] we would need empathy to build with gtk2 to update [17:42] it won't, so case solved :) [17:43] seb128, worked disabling webkit for not.. changlog editing and PPA bound.. thanks :) [17:43] kenvandine: utouch-evemu I think will let you fake events from hardware. [17:51] seb128, how do i merge https://code.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/empathy/ubuntu with what i have in my own bazaar ? [17:51] bcurtiswx, bzr get lp:~gnome3-team/empathy/ubuntu [17:52] cd ubuntu [17:52] bzr merge ../your_own_dir [17:52] bzr commit [17:52] bzr push [17:52] OK thx [18:04] Laney, could someone from the cli team review the merge request from bratsche on gtk#? the depends on gtk probably needs to be updated to the version shipping the grip patch as well [18:06] libgnome-keyring-dev is now libgcr-dev ? [18:08] nvm\ [18:09] bcurtiswx, afaik, there's no more libgnome-keyring [18:10] rodrigo_, OK thx [18:12] cassidy, the dep of KEYRING_REQUIRED is not libgnome-keyring-dev right? [18:14] bcurtiswx, wait, sorry, there's libgnome-keyring, but it's its own module now, so we are missing a GNOME3 package for it indeed [18:14] * rodrigo_ adds to TODO list [18:15] rodrigo_, i was just going to go package it [18:15] bcurtiswx, ah, cool [18:15] bcurtiswx, submit it to the GNOME3 PPA then, when ready [18:15] will do [18:15] ok :) [18:18] rodrigo_, wait.. so http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/libgnome-keyring/2.32/ isn't it anymore [18:22] kenvandine, oh, seems that empathy update was already uploaded [18:22] kenvandine, the bug and request where just not updated [18:25] tedg, where you talking about how you weren't sure if about-to-show made sense? === artix_ is now known as artix [18:25] (in dbusmenu) [18:26] mterry, Well, it makes some sense, but it's kinda difficult to do the blocking of the menu in GTK. It's not really built to do that. [18:27] tedg, I see. I'm trying to solve an empathy issue where they construct the menu dynamically, and I was looking into adding support to appmenu-gtk for it [18:29] mterry, Ah, that'd be cool. Really it needs dbusmenu support as well. [18:29] mterry, appmenu support will only get you the first layer :) [18:29] mterry, The submenus need support too. [18:29] tedg, agreed, that's next, because empathy dynamically removes/adds submenus to items [18:30] tedg, explain about dbusmenu support? [18:30] ugh! [18:30] seb128, i should have looked on launchpad i guess... [18:30] doesn't that already work in dbusmenu now? (i'm using it in firefox, as it dynamically builds most of its menus) [18:30] mterry, It just needs to track the menu opening and block it before it gets the signal or a timeout. [18:30] rmadison didn't show it [18:30] chrisccoulson, it'll work in that they'll update and send the signal, but it won't block the building of the menu for the reply. [18:31] oh, you're talking about blocking it too :) [18:32] tedg - btw, i uploaded the extension to the archive today, but it's still sat in new. you can get it from my PPA already though if you want to use it: https://launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/+archive/ppa ;) [18:32] kenvandine too ;) [18:32] tedg, so it works, there's just a race condition? [18:33] tedg, if I add support to appmenu-gtk, what does the return boolean of about-to-show callbacks mean? [18:33] so I'm future compatible with dbusmenu support [18:33] * kenvandine jumps on that [18:33] mterry, i think i just always return the same value for that ;) [18:33] chrisccoulson, yeah, dbusmenu just throws the value away currently [18:35] yeah, i always return false: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/globalmenu-extension/trunk/view/head:/extensions/globalmenu/components/src/uGlobalMenu.cpp#L60 [18:38] chrisccoulson, how do i enable it? [18:38] kenvandine, once it's installed, you should just need to restart firefox [18:38] chrisccoulson, and what should be the default for tabs? tabs on top? [18:38] kenvandine, tabs-on-top should be default [18:39] enjoy your week-end everyone! [18:39] damn [18:39] you too didrocks [18:39] thanks :) [18:39] chrisccoulson, i thought so... you had me change that last week to tabs on top... [18:39] it reverted [18:39] hmmm, that's odd. do you have any other extensions installed? [18:40] i doubt it...i hate extensions :) [18:40] lol [18:40] i restarted firefox and this menu extension isn't enabled [18:40] and i have no enable button [18:40] tedg, sorry but I just uncleaned your indicator-application list by adding upstream tasks for the ubuntu bug ;-) [18:42] kenvandine, hmm, does it show in the addons manager? [18:42] yes [18:42] as disabled [18:42] does it give a reason for being disabled? [18:42] what firefox version are you using? [18:42] oh [18:43] incompatible with 4.0b9 [18:43] oh? [18:43] that's odd ;) [18:43]