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[06:39] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[12:00] <effie-jayx> hello all
[12:00] <Ronnie> hey effie-jayx
[18:15] <cjohnston> mhall119: should we do something about web dev for developer week? does that fall too far out of the scope?
[18:19] <mhall119> you mean do a class on web development?
[18:19] <mhall119> I think we should have a web dev class, yes
[18:19] <cjohnston> getting involved in the ubuntu type of web development
[18:20] <mhall119> I think one of the times I taught django ws for developer week
[18:20] <cjohnston> like how to start hacking on foundations/hof/ld
[18:20] <mhall119> I think a 'getting started on loco-directory' would be good, yes
[18:21] <mhall119> I'm not sure foundations of hof will be in a good enough state to really be encouraging to new contributors
[18:21] <mhall119> but ld or summit would
[18:21] <mhall119> or the cloud portal
[18:22] <daker> actually the cloud portal is just a wordpress theme ツ
[18:23] <mhall119> oh
[18:23] <mhall119> maybe awstrial then
[18:23] <daker> yes
[18:23] <mhall119> if that's going to be someting that sticks around
[18:23] <mhall119> you'd have to ask DavidLevin 
[18:23] <mhall119> gah, Daviey 
[18:25] <mhall119> I think LD is the ideal candidate webapp though
[18:25] <Daviey> o/
[18:25] <cjohnston> holy crap Daviey is alive!
[18:25] <Daviey> sadly :P
[18:25] <mhall119> it has the most exposure, it most open to community direction, and has the most defined development model/cycle
[18:25] <mhall119> hey Daviey!
[18:25] <Daviey> awstrial is here to stay fwiw
[18:26] <daker> cjohnston, he is a walking dead :p
[18:26] <mhall119> we're talking about django apps we can use to teach a developer week class
[18:26] <Daviey> awstrial currently needs lots of love. :)
[18:27] <mhall119> but how open is it to community direction?
[18:27] <mhall119> will new features have to be approved by someone at Canonical?
[18:29] <Daviey> mhall119, hmm
[18:29] <Daviey> tricky question
[18:29] <mhall119> yeah
[18:29] <Daviey> i guess it depends what a 'feature' is.
[18:29] <Daviey> i mean, this differs from some other projects - in so far that it actually costs some money per visitor
[18:30] <mhall119> yeah
[18:30] <mhall119> and also it's directly used by Canonical to market a product
[18:30] <Daviey> so having the person paying, canonical, does make sense for them to ack a feature.. i think
[18:30] <Daviey> hmm
[18:30] <Daviey> product or project?
[18:30] <mhall119> product, it's being used to sell Ubuntu on the cloud
[18:31] <Daviey> hmm
[18:31] <Daviey> I don't think it's that straight forward...
[18:31] <Daviey> Amazon make money out of that, i can't see how Canonical do.
[18:31] <mhall119> it's a promotion
[18:31] <mhall119> advertising if you will
[18:32] <Daviey> hmm
[18:32]  * Pendulum hugs Daviey 
[18:32] <mhall119> Canonical will want more control over what is said/claimed/offered on 10.cloud.ubuntu.com that on loco.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <Daviey> yeah, that is true
[18:33] <Daviey> keep in mind that iirc LD idea came from Canonical, didn't it?
[18:33] <cjohnston> i thought that was nixternal
[18:34] <Daviey> He was the first contributor... didn'tthink it was his idea
[18:34] <Daviey> We discussed it at Mountain view
[18:34] <cjohnston> o
[18:35] <mhall119> wherever it came from, we've been given quite a bit of freedom in choosing it's direction and features
[18:42] <Daviey> oh aye.
[18:44] <mhall119> if we're going to bring in several new contributors, we're going to need to be flexible with new ideas and features
[18:44] <mhall119> the last thing we want to do is to have to reject features
[18:46] <cjohnston> as long as they are valid and worthwile
[18:46] <mhall119> not that we wouldn't have to reject features to LD, but we (community contributors) would have more discretion