| Fishscene | Greetings. I'm trying to set up a bittorrent tracker in Ubuntu Server 10.10. I ran "aptitude search bittorrent" and found a package called "bittorrent" that says it has a tracker. I installed it, but I have no clue how to set it up. I tried "man bittorrent" but there is no documentation and a google search yeilds everything under the sun related to bittorrent. | 00:32 |
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| Fishscene | Is there any documentation I could look at? | 00:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #705691 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler-web should include a working configuration and a README file detailing the steps necessary" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705691 | 00:46 |
| Deezire | is there any special reason for why innodb-segment of my.cnf has been removed from mysql in 10.10? | 00:57 |
| Deezire | They left the comments, but not the options. | 00:57 |
| === ogra is now known as Guest96093 | ||
| svdasein | I'm having some trouble seeing past the initrd load when installing via a serial console - does anyone here have experience w/ that or know a better forum to ask in? | 02:41 |
| jMyles | So I'm having an odd issue. My server is loosing time. It is Lucid 64-bit. It looses about 6 minutes a day. I found a couple of threads that recommended syncing NTP. Is there a way I can ensure that it will stay reasonable close to on-time even if it is offlien? | 02:49 |
| pmatulis | jMyles: try changing your CMOS battery | 03:03 |
| svdasein | these are the pxelinux appended options I'm using: append initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz console=ttyS0,9600 -- | 03:21 |
| svdasein | I can see the kernel load, then I can see initrd load, but once the kernel starts (I presume) my terminal screen blanks and all activity stops | 03:21 |
| svdasein | I've tried numerous permutations on the console= parameter, and I've tried several permutations with earlyprintk - all to no avail | 03:22 |
| svdasein | I've tried ttyS0-3 - no joy | 03:22 |
| svdasein | so - I'm puzzled | 03:22 |
| jMyles | pmatulis: It's not my CMOS battery - the time is accurate in the BIOS, just not in ubuntu | 03:25 |
| svdasein | you're not running in a vm right jMyles? | 03:26 |
| jMyles | svdasein: right | 03:32 |
| svdasein | jMyles: do you have any cpu throttling enabled? | 03:33 |
| hroberts | can someone help me with an upgrade issue? I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade, it installed the new kernel. When I did a reboot, I get GRUBs menu, but no matter which option I choose the server will not boot | 03:36 |
| hroberts | can someone help me with an upgrade issue? I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade, it installed the new kernel. When I did a reboot, I get GRUBs menu, but no matter which option I choose the server will not boot | 03:37 |
| hroberts | I have reloaded this server 4 times now over the past 2 days and I would like to figure out how to resolve this | 03:38 |
| hroberts | I am running 10.10 32 bit on an older compaq proliant 1600 series | 03:40 |
| hroberts | Please can someone help with this or point me to the group who could | 03:40 |
| hroberts | no one can help me? is everyone asleep? I need to get this server operational. | 03:43 |
| pickett | reinstal from iso? | 03:45 |
| hroberts | pickett: from a CD downloaded last night | 03:48 |
| hroberts | here is the complete issue: | 03:49 |
| hroberts | I am loading a server that will be a print server, I loaded 10.10 32 bit (it is an older Compaq Proliant 1600 Series) I do an apt-get update and then an apt-get upgrade. I then reboot the server and everything works fine. I then do an apt-get dist-upgrade and my kernal goes from 2.6.35.22-generic-pae to 2.6.35.24-generic-pae, it re-writes grub and now no matter which selection I choose either 22 or 24, or either re | 03:49 |
| hroberts | grub now says msdos instead of ext4 is that the issue? If so how would I change that | 03:49 |
| pickett | sounds like grub's the prob | 03:50 |
| pickett | is it on an ext4 partition? | 03:50 |
| hroberts | it said it was when I loaded it | 03:51 |
| hroberts | when I edit the commands in grub for the failure this is what I see: | 03:52 |
| pickett | next time you install try making a seperate 300mb ext3 partition for /boot | 03:52 |
| hroberts | redordfail, insmod part_msdos, insmod ext2, set root = '(hd0,msdos1)', search --nofloppy --fs-uuid --set c(realy long #), linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-24-generic-pae... | 03:56 |
| hroberts | can I change the grub somehow to allow it to boot? | 03:56 |
| twb | signs point to yes | 04:06 |
| twb | Well, it's possible. Whether YOU can is another question. | 04:06 |
| hroberts | twb: thanks | 04:11 |
| twb | Personally I just set up a static extlinux bootloader and kick grub in the pants, but that's not the party line | 04:12 |
| hroberts | well I guess it is reload # 5 and more then likely again no luck in getting it to work. | 04:13 |
| thesheff17 | hroberts: would make sure the entire disk you are using is wiped clean. I usually do this gparted. Also search google for wiping the MBR. Then I would do what pickett said and create a /boot/ parition on the device so /dev/sda1 | 04:16 |
| thesheff17 | hroberts: are you doing any raid stuff? | 04:17 |
| thesheff17 | do most people use apt-get dist-upgrade? I usually just us apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 04:20 |
| thesheff17 | *use | 04:20 |
| donvito | how to get down sit0 ? | 04:43 |
| hroberts | thesheff17: sorry on the server | 04:44 |
| hroberts | I am doing a hardware raid 5 on this server, I do the dist-upgrade to upgrade the kernel, is there a better way to upgrade the kernel? | 04:44 |
| hroberts | I wipe the server everytime, I have tried this with both LVM and without it | 04:45 |
| thesheff17 | hroberts: I'm pretty sure apt-get upgrade does the kernel as well...I could be wrong... | 04:48 |
| thesheff17 | hroberts: it says this: dist-upgrade will remove obsolete packages from your system, whereas upgrade will not. This function is out of necessity for upgrading from one distribution release to another. | 04:50 |
| thesheff17 | so apt-get upgrade should do the kernel. | 04:50 |
| pickett | don't think it does | 04:52 |
| pickett | aptitude upgrade does | 04:52 |
| shauno | apt-get upgrade should only upgrade packages which are already installed. so linux-image-virtual Depends: linux-image-2.6.32-21-virtual, which is a new package (not a new version of linux-image-virtual), so it won't be pulled in automatically | 04:58 |
| shauno | I just use upgrade, and if there's a new kernel, it'll let me know by telling me linux-virtual & linux-image-virtual have been 'held back' | 04:59 |
| thesheff17 | shauno: yea I only use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and then I guess I get the new kernel when the new version comes out of ubuntu and wipe the server with the distro cd. | 05:02 |
| shauno | I tend to fetch them when I know I can schedule a reboot. especially running LTS, having a 2-year-old kernel isn't always a good plan :) | 05:05 |
| thesheff17 | shauno: so what command do you run to get the new kernel? | 05:06 |
| shauno | http://paste.ubuntu.com/556437/ | 05:08 |
| shauno | 5-6 tell me there's a new kernel package but it won't be installed by upgrade. | 05:09 |
| shauno | (18-19 explain why. linux-image-2.6.32-27-virtual is a 'new' package, not an upgrade to an existing package) | 05:10 |
| === IdleOne is now known as gpc | ||
| shauno | if they made them new versions of existing packages, dpkg would overwrite / remove the existing package, so you wouldn't have a known-good kernel as a fallback | 05:11 |
| shauno | which has the potential to really ruin your day | 05:11 |
| thesheff17 | thx for the info..yea I guess I never update the kernel then. | 05:12 |
| twb | 16:18 !!! ":Gnea!~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea JOIN :#ubuntu-server" (error Invalid search bound (wrong side of point)) | 05:19 |
| twb | ...WTF was that? | 05:19 |
| Gnea | Hey everyone, I've got a weird problem - I've put ubuntu server 10.04 amd64 onto a 4gb usb stick with unetbootin and booted it - when it boots, it goes through the normal stuff until it tries to mount the device as a cdrom, but it fails | 05:19 |
| Gnea | twb: probably a problem with your irc client | 05:20 |
| twb | Somehow the JOIN event borked my channel buffer | 05:20 |
| twb | Yeah, I just don't see what | 05:20 |
| twb | It's not like you have a unicode combining digraph in your nick | 05:20 |
| Gnea | but anyway | 05:20 |
| Gnea | it's failing to mount the device, how can I fix this? | 05:21 |
| twb | I don't support unetbootin, but you might like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ | 05:21 |
| Gnea | network installation is not an option at this point | 05:21 |
| twb | Then I dunno | 05:21 |
| twb | Maybe you can build a working image with jigdo | 05:22 |
| Gnea | well, I tried using usb-creator-gtk and it kept getting an i/o error | 05:22 |
| twb | I don't approve of GUI-based ISO-to-USB converter things. | 05:22 |
| thesheff17 | I used usb-creator-gtk last night w/ 10.04 server and it worked fine | 05:22 |
| twb | Gnea: ooh.. what version of Ubuntu is your install CD? | 05:22 |
| twb | Gnea: the ISO you passed to unetbootin, I mean | 05:22 |
| thesheff17 | maybe 4GB is too big? | 05:23 |
| Gnea | ... | 05:23 |
| Gnea | 10.04 | 05:23 |
| twb | Darn, too old. | 05:23 |
| thesheff17 | I was using 10.04.1 | 05:23 |
| Gnea | why would 4gb be too big? | 05:23 |
| Gnea | 10.04 is hardly too old | 05:23 |
| twb | With maverick onwards, you can convert an ordinary .iso into an image that works DIRECTLY as both a CD and a USB key | 05:23 |
| Gnea | I see it's trying to use /dev/sr0 | 05:23 |
| twb | Gnea: too old for syslinux 4 | 05:23 |
| Gnea | twb: aaah | 05:24 |
| twb | I'm surprised Ubuntu doesn't do it officially | 05:24 |
| Gnea | well this is geared toward a production server, so maverick is out of the question. | 05:24 |
| twb | Yeah, no worries | 05:24 |
| pickett | try putting the mini.iso on the usb stick | 05:25 |
| pickett | then net install | 05:25 |
| twb | pickett: apparently he has no network | 05:25 |
| Gnea | I wonder if it's due to a udev rule... | 05:25 |
| Gnea | yeah, it's off the grid for now | 05:25 |
| Gnea | it has to be done without the network for now, no choice | 05:25 |
| pickett | try using the maverick iso creator to create the usb | 05:27 |
| Gnea | I don't run maverick on any system. | 05:27 |
| Gnea | 10.04 only | 05:27 |
| Gnea | is there a backport? | 05:27 |
| pickett | can't use a live mav cd to do it? | 05:28 |
| Gnea | don't have a cd. | 05:28 |
| twb | Which, I suspect, is the crux of the problem | 05:28 |
| Gnea | it's part of it. | 05:28 |
| pickett | try it in vmware or vbox | 05:28 |
| Gnea | it should *just work* with a usb stick | 05:28 |
| Gnea | not an option. | 05:28 |
| Gnea | I put backtrack on a 4gb usb stick and it works fine, no problems | 05:29 |
| Gnea | same with elive | 05:29 |
| Gnea | so why not ubuntu? | 05:29 |
| Gnea | hrm, going to try something | 05:29 |
| gobbe | eh? | 05:30 |
| * Gnea uses vim | 05:31 | |
| gobbe | i have installed several servers from 4 gig stick | 05:31 |
| Gnea | gobbe: the udev rules appear to be forcing the actual cdrom drive to be used in lieu of the usb stick | 05:32 |
| Gnea | !usb | 05:32 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 05:32 |
| gobbe | hmmh? | 05:33 |
| gobbe | so you cannot install it from stick? | 05:33 |
| Gnea | have you not read a single thing I've typed since I entered the channel? | 05:34 |
| gobbe | well i don't have so long backlog, i'm sorry | 05:34 |
| Gnea | ah | 05:34 |
| Gnea | np | 05:34 |
| Gnea | here... | 05:34 |
| Gnea | Hey everyone, I've got a weird problem - I've put ubuntu server 10.04 amd64 onto a 4gb usb stick with unetbootin and booted it - when it boots, it goes through the normal stuff until it tries to mount the device as a cdrom, but it fails | 05:34 |
| Gnea | ^^ original question | 05:34 |
| uvirtbot | Gnea: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 05:34 |
| Gnea | uvirtbot: shut up | 05:35 |
| uvirtbot | Gnea: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. | 05:35 |
| Gnea | I'm hoping that's an official bot | 05:35 |
| Gnea | ^help | 05:35 |
| uvirtbot | Gnea: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 05:35 |
| Gnea | ^owner | 05:36 |
| uvirtbot | Gnea: Error: "owner" is not a valid command. | 05:36 |
| Gnea | gobbe: make sense now? | 05:36 |
| gobbe | Gnea: yes, so you cannot install it because it trys to mount your stick as cdrom | 05:36 |
| gobbe | what kind of stick you are using? | 05:37 |
| Gnea | gobbe: it tries to mount the cdrom as cdrom, not the stick as cdrom | 05:37 |
| Gnea | sandisk cruzer blade | 05:37 |
| Gnea | tough little thing - kick it, drop it, roll over it with a car, it won't die | 05:38 |
| gobbe | yea | 05:38 |
| Gnea | yet it can't install ubuntu | 05:38 |
| Gnea | :) | 05:38 |
| gobbe | but it's tough ;-( | 05:38 |
| Gnea | lol | 05:38 |
| gobbe | ;-) i mean | 05:38 |
| gobbe | heh | 05:39 |
| Gnea | yeah | 05:39 |
| gobbe | hmmh, i sounds like somekind of udev-thing tho. I have used few kingston models without problem | 05:39 |
| Gnea | hmm | 05:39 |
| Gnea | I do have a 2g cruzer, that could work | 05:40 |
| Gnea | it's sandisk, but different model where the connector slides in/out | 05:40 |
| Gnea | and it lights up | 05:40 |
| Thirtysixway | where does munin store its data? | 05:48 |
| Gnea | okay, this is messed up | 05:48 |
| Thirtysixway | i renamed a node and all its previous data went away :( | 05:48 |
| Gnea | /dev/sdb1 vfat 1.9G -8.0K 1.9G - /media/D3A3-0FFC | 05:48 |
| Gnea | -8.0k?! | 05:48 |
| Gnea | well, almost made some progress, but that's only actually made my faith in the installation process become less than what it used to be | 06:07 |
| Gnea | apparently, if I disconnect the cdrom from the system entirely, the installation will ask me if I want to do it manually - if I do that, it will scan everything on the system EXCEPT for the /dev/sdb1 itself. It actually considers /dev/sdb, but not /dev/sdb1. | 06:08 |
| Gnea | This is epic fail. | 06:08 |
| Gnea | bad ubuntu, BAD! | 06:08 |
| * Gnea considers kicking to the curb | 06:08 | |
| pickett | can you try getting grub to boot from the iso? | 06:28 |
| Gnea | pickett: how would that help? | 06:29 |
| pickett | wouldn't need the usb then | 06:31 |
| psteyn | Hi. I get "System information disabled due to load higher than 1" on some of my multi processor/core systems. | 07:53 |
| psteyn | If anything, shouldn't that message be "System information disabled due to load higher than ${NUMCORES}" | 07:54 |
| psteyn | As a load of 1 is nothing to my 8 core system. | 07:54 |
| twb | psteyn: you get it... from what? | 07:58 |
| psteyn | twb: as I log in, so probably from motd | 08:02 |
| psteyn | log in via ssh | 08:02 |
| twb | Ergh | 08:02 |
| twb | Try grovelling through /etc/update-motd.d | 08:02 |
| psteyn | found it: 50-landscape-sysinfo will submit a patch | 08:04 |
| shauno | I've seen that mentioned a few times in here, but bug #675245 (the only one I can find relevant) is untouched | 08:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 675245 in update-motd "evaluation from the systemload on multiprocessor machines in 50-landscape-sysinfo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675245 | 08:12 |
| psteyn | shauno: ah ok, then im not going to bother :) | 08:24 |
| shauno | not even sure if update-motd is the right package to be filed against, it's not on my system (and that file doesn't appear to exist on packages.ubuntu.com) | 08:30 |
| psteyn | does /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo exist on your system? | 08:33 |
| shauno | nope | 08:34 |
| ChrisBuchholz | Ey guys. On my ubuntu 10.04.1 server, i have 5 users, 3 of which cannot ssh and 2 where it works (where root is one of em). I havent been able to figure out why, and ssh with the -vv argument doesnt give me anything that could indicate a problem. But i just noticed that in my /etc/passwd, all the users where ssh works have the same numbers in user and group id, whereas the users where it doesnt work have a different number in the user and gro | 09:28 |
| greppy | ChrisBuchholz: do you have anything showing up in /var/log/auth.log or /var/log/daemon.log ? | 09:30 |
| ChrisBuchholz | let me check | 09:31 |
| ChrisBuchholz | greppy: nope, nothing that seems out of order | 09:33 |
| ChrisBuchholz | greppy: have to go to the store, will be back | 09:44 |
| dustin | hey | 09:57 |
| dustin | can i get some help? | 09:57 |
| psteyn | ask your question dont ask to ask | 09:57 |
| dustin | just checkin see if someone was here | 09:58 |
| dustin | i want to remote desktop connection using my htc evo 4g, specs :ubutu10.04 amd64, 2gb drr2 ram 2.1 amd anthon2x | 10:00 |
| dustin | hello? | 10:02 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #658864 in samba (main) "rhythmbox crashes with Game/Audio CD in drive (dup-of: 529714)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658864 | 10:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #659334 in samba (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r() (dup-of: 529714)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659334 | 10:18 |
| === ogra is now known as ogra_ | ||
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| jmkgreen | so anyone else seeing "System information disabled due to load higher than 1" on login despite the load being nothing? | 10:22 |
| IrishWristwatch | jmkgreen, I don't know why it does that either | 10:25 |
| IrishWristwatch | perhaps the motd takes a while to refresh, and when it was reloaded last the cpu load was higher than one? | 10:25 |
| jmkgreen | nah this has been ongoing for months on the same boxes | 10:26 |
| jmkgreen | blooming annoying since it no longer shows any available security updates | 10:26 |
| IrishWristwatch | blooming? | 10:27 |
| jmkgreen | flipping | 10:27 |
| IrishWristwatch | jmkgreen, I think I found it | 10:32 |
| IrishWristwatch | /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo | 10:32 |
| IrishWristwatch | that's the script that updates the sysinfo | 10:32 |
| IrishWristwatch | however, that doesn't explain why your system has a high load. | 10:36 |
| jmkgreen | my system does not have a high load | 10:36 |
| jmkgreen | hence the problem | 10:36 |
| IrishWristwatch | since it's getting its info from the kernel and it says its greater than one. | 10:36 |
| jmkgreen | 10:36:43 up 8 days, 23:27, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.12, 0.16 | 10:36 |
| jmkgreen | not high :-) | 10:36 |
| IrishWristwatch | yeah right now | 10:37 |
| IrishWristwatch | does it happen every time you log in? | 10:37 |
| jmkgreen | those scripts in update-motd.d are run by pam | 10:37 |
| jmkgreen | yes, and after login 'w' still shows no more than 0.4 (as a result of the login) | 10:38 |
| jmkgreen | it's as if there's a stale file not being overwritten | 10:38 |
| jmkgreen | if I run ./50-landscape-sysinfo it displays things fine | 10:39 |
| jmkgreen | I am now running watch on it and I'll login again in another terminal. right now it shows system load of 0.39 | 10:39 |
| jmkgreen | 0.48 it rose to and now it's coming back down | 10:40 |
| soren | Daviey: Do you have any reservations <some sort of preposition, not sure which> my uploading a fresh Nova to Natty? | 10:40 |
| jmkgreen | wtf | 10:42 |
| jmkgreen | why is "Cornish (kw)" an english language choice in launchpad? | 10:42 |
| jmkgreen | someone taking the piss? | 10:42 |
| IrishWristwatch | lol | 10:44 |
| jmkgreen | jgreenso6bkpdSB1Dcav5ztaRORa | 10:44 |
| jmkgreen | oops ww | 10:44 |
| IrishWristwatch | that your password? | 10:44 |
| jmkgreen | that was my launchpad password (now reset) | 10:47 |
| IrishWristwatch | :P | 10:48 |
| jmkgreen | keypass auto-type. first time I'd used it | 10:48 |
| jmkgreen | going to ask a question about this load display issue | 10:48 |
| IrishWristwatch | you should use ssh keys for your box | 10:48 |
| IrishWristwatch | well | 10:49 |
| IrishWristwatch | do you want it to display or do you want to know why it's having this issue? | 10:49 |
| IrishWristwatch | because you could probably change the value in that script to accept a higher system load | 10:49 |
| jmkgreen | IrishWristwatch: I just adjusted it to read if [ $(echo "`cut -f1 -d ' ' /proc/loadavg` < 2.0" | bc) -eq 1 ]; then - but it still happens | 10:53 |
| IrishWristwatch | check your /etc/motd | 10:53 |
| * soren sighs at that check. | 10:54 | |
| IrishWristwatch | wait | 10:54 |
| jmkgreen | soren: something I did? | 10:54 |
| IrishWristwatch | nvm >_> | 10:54 |
| IrishWristwatch | I forgot | 10:54 |
| soren | jmkgreen: No, something whoever wrote that did. | 10:54 |
| jmkgreen | soren: not brilliantly written then? | 10:54 |
| jmkgreen | can't say I'm a shell scripting guy | 10:54 |
| * soren isn't impressed, no | 10:55 | |
| jmkgreen | heh | 10:55 |
| jmkgreen | fair enough | 10:55 |
| soren | if grep -q ^0 /proc/loadavg; then foo; else bar; fi | 10:55 |
| IrishWristwatch | yeah this whole motd thing seems very fickle | 10:55 |
| soren | How hard is that? | 10:55 |
| IrishWristwatch | and the ubuntu wiki isn't helping much at all | 10:55 |
| jmkgreen | IrishWristwatch: indeed | 10:56 |
| jmkgreen | soren: there was a bug somewhere to make it check if the load was less than the number of cpu cores found | 10:56 |
| jmkgreen | someone pointing out that on an 8-core box a load of 2 wasn't necessarily a problem :-) | 10:56 |
| IrishWristwatch | alright goodnight | 10:57 |
| soren | jmkgreen: That's simple to adjust for. I'm still saving 4 clone(2) calls. | 11:01 |
| soren | jmkgreen: maxload=1; currentload=$(cut -f1 -d. < /proc/loadavg); if [ $currentload -lt $maxload]; then win; else lose; fi | 11:09 |
| jmkgreen | while that might be desirable, that doesn't help my issue | 11:11 |
| jmkgreen | still says the load is higher than 1, which it isn't | 11:12 |
| soren | Can you just make it output what's in /proc/loadavg? | 11:14 |
| jmkgreen | I've modified the text that read 'System information disabled due toload higher than 1' to read 'System information disabled due toload higher than foo' | 11:16 |
| jmkgreen | the original text was still sent to displat | 11:16 |
| jmkgreen | so that script is just not being executed | 11:16 |
| soren | Yeah, I forget when update-motd gets run. | 11:16 |
| soren | Allegedly, "Executable scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/* are executed by pam_motd(8) as the root user at each login" | 11:17 |
| jmkgreen | er | 11:18 |
| jmkgreen | jamesg@blofeld:/etc/update-motd.d$ ./20-cpu-checker | 11:18 |
| jmkgreen | exec: 3: /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-cpu-checker: not found | 11:18 |
| jmkgreen | that probably causes the rest to fail and for nothing to be written to the motd file | 11:18 |
| soren | That's not unlikely. | 11:19 |
| jmkgreen | ah ha! | 11:20 |
| jmkgreen | sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common is the magic to fix all things | 11:20 |
| soren | jmkgreen: Cool. Filed bug 705828. | 11:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 705828 in update-notifier "update-motd hook should check whether update-motd-cpu-checker exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705828 | 11:22 |
| jmkgreen | soren: ta, I'll leave you lot alone now. Thanks for the help. | 11:24 |
| Blinkiz | Hi there. Am working at a ISP that has IPv6 enabled everywhere. We use Router Advertisements to bring out information about two routers (gateways) to the client. | 12:10 |
| Blinkiz | In linux world, RA makes the machine (client) create it's own address based on the mac number. But what if I want to create something myself, but still listen auto set gateways? | 12:11 |
| Blinkiz | Let's say I want 2a02:470:0:1::19 instead of 2a02:470:0:1:5652:ff:fe17:dc7b. How can I make this happen? | 12:12 |
| Blinkiz | Announced net is 2a02:470:0:1::/64 | 12:12 |
| patdk-lap | heh | 12:12 |
| Blinkiz | Anyone here using IPv6 to start with? | 12:12 |
| patdk-lap | that would be the difference between ra and dhcp | 12:12 |
| Blinkiz | patdk-lap, yeah, but RA makes the client choose it's own address. I guess I can control this some way= | 12:13 |
| Blinkiz | Control this on the client of course. Which is a ubuntu system | 12:14 |
| _ruben | there's probably some sysctl to disable slaac, or just don't advertize the prefix on your routers | 12:16 |
| Blinkiz | _ruben, The advertisement contains important information about gateways in the network. So I still need to listen to RA. "slaac" you say. A keyword! Let's try that in google :) | 12:17 |
| _ruben | Blinkiz: i didnt say "disable the advertisements", i said "disable the *prefix* advertisements", which would result in a default gateway being configured on the clients, but not a autoconfig (slaac) address | 12:20 |
| Blinkiz | _ruben, Hmm. interesting | 12:20 |
| Blinkiz | _ruben, anyway, I can not disable the prefix announcement. :) | 12:21 |
| mianosm | Doing a minimal install of 11.04 still seems to yield a high amount of installed packages, is the initative to create a "true" minimal install still happening? | 12:22 |
| Blinkiz | I will look more into how slaac behaves and how I can control it on the client. But I need to handle a support ticket at the moment. Need to get back to this in a couple of minutes or so | 12:22 |
| _ruben | might wanna look into /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/accept_ra_defrtr and /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/accept_ra | 12:26 |
| _ruben | not sure if enabling the first works when disabling the second | 12:27 |
| shaggy2 | anyone know what is needed to setup a DNS Server? like how I register it or what I need to do to enable people to acutaly find the DNS to resolve the Domain? | 12:28 |
| mianosm | shaggy2: you want to setup bind9 and use the server as your own personal dns server? | 12:30 |
| mianosm | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns.html | 12:31 |
| shaggy2 | well sort of, I aint sure what u mean by personal dns server, basicly I am setting up a hosting company, and I want to be able to use the dns server installed with my hosting package (ispCP | 12:31 |
| shaggy2 | and I am using 10.10 | 12:31 |
| mianosm | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/dns-installation.html | 12:31 |
| _ruben | shaggy2: when you buy/register a domainname, you have to provided the registrar with a list of dns servers, those dns servers will be running bind/unbound/pdns/whatever, and ppl will be directed to them automagically through the glue records | 12:32 |
| shaggy2 | ahhh | 12:32 |
| shaggy2 | thank you, that is what I wasn't sure on | 12:32 |
| * _ruben takes note not to buy hosting services from shaggy2 | 12:32 | |
| shaggy2 | hey I am only setting up | 12:32 |
| _ruben | "learn first, do later" tends to work best, tho it's not commonly acted out | 12:33 |
| shaggy2 | basicly before I SELL hosting I will have set this up about 20 times atleast and tested with mine and my mates | 12:33 |
| shaggy2 | I am learning | 12:33 |
| shaggy2 | the way I learn is by doing | 12:33 |
| shaggy2 | it's not actualy public yet | 12:33 |
| _ruben | ok :) | 12:33 |
| shaggy2 | I have my Domain and my mates | 12:33 |
| mianosm | best of luck to you shaggy2! _ruben, wouldn't setting up a primary and secondary master be enough for what he's looking to do? | 12:34 |
| shaggy2 | but no actual public connections coming in, I never even thought of using my own DNS but then I thought it would be easier if customers would be able to use the hosting panel to setup the dns records on there own domain | 12:35 |
| shaggy2 | brb | 12:35 |
| _ruben | what's the domain? | 12:37 |
| shaggy2 | shaggyweb.net and cjg-designs.net shaggyweb aint working I was getting DOS attacks so my ISP decided to shove me back on a dynamic IP while they take my static and find the fella, got work back that he is located in NSW Australia | 12:38 |
| shaggy2 | he was routing it through about 5 sep proxies, and I don't know why he was trying to go at me, bloody little shit | 12:39 |
| mianosm | he was able to use 5 proxies and DoS you from one source? IPTables couldn't kill it? | 12:39 |
| shaggy2 | ok back | 12:40 |
| shaggy2 | well that was silly | 12:40 |
| shaggy2 | lol | 12:40 |
| _ruben | depending on the type of dos, iptables wont be of use | 12:40 |
| shaggy2 | but ok so my understanding is, I change the dns server to my own with the register, and then my DNS Server would work | 12:41 |
| _ruben | if it's setup properly, yes | 12:41 |
| shaggy2 | ok thanks ruben | 12:41 |
| shaggy2 | will test it once I get my static back | 12:41 |
| shaggy2 | I know it's stupid to do it, but can the primary and secondary be hosted on the same server? | 12:42 |
| shaggy2 | atm I only have 1 server and 1 IP | 12:42 |
| _ruben | then again, doing *any* "serious" hosting on a consumer internet connection is asking for trouble | 12:42 |
| shaggy2 | I will have fiber this time next year, and I am planning on using that for the REAL hosting, just wanted to get it setup and learn what I need to now | 12:43 |
| _ruben | having only 1 dns server is far from being recommended either, then again, if the dns server is only used for domains that are hosted on the same server, then it doesnt matter (if dns is down, the site is as well, so dns doesnt matter anymore) | 12:43 |
| _ruben | and there's several free dns services out there, including ones that allow you to run your own master and have them slave for you | 12:44 |
| shaggy2 | I currently have bind installed | 12:44 |
| Blinkiz | Hi again. In my quest of knowledge about how to decided my IPv6 address, I have found a great topic to start my search from. All the people that do not like that the MAC address is the second part of a IPv6 address in linux. If I can find out how to control this, I will find my solution | 12:51 |
| Blinkiz | So, the net is announced with RA messages and each client creates is own address based on the MAC number. How can I control this? For example, in the Windows world, they have some kind of generator to set a unique MAC number without using the MAC number. | 12:52 |
| Blinkiz | A few keyword within the topic would be great. | 12:52 |
| _ruben | Blinkiz: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/use_tempaddr .. temporary addresses and privacy extensions are the keywords here | 12:54 |
| Blinkiz | _ruben, nice :) | 12:54 |
| _ruben | Blinkiz: another hint: there's also #ipv6 ;) | 12:55 |
| Blinkiz | Ohh ;) | 12:56 |
| Blinkiz | what can I say.. "ubuntu geek" | 12:56 |
| Blinkiz | Need to include... eehh.. "linux" in my world.. hehe | 12:56 |
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| spajderix | hi | 13:54 |
| patdk-wk | hello | 13:54 |
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| spajderix | how can i check what is blocking my os and making my proc stay in average 98% wait-io state? | 13:57 |
| patdk-wk | a harddrive :) | 13:58 |
| patdk-wk | iostat | 13:58 |
| mianosm | top? | 13:58 |
| binBASH | hi patdk-wk | 13:58 |
| spajderix | mianosm: top along with htop show lot of process with state D, but these processes work most of the time normally, this wait-io spike happens once every few minutes and stays up to 2 minutes, so it's hard for me to find a cause | 13:59 |
| spajderix | iotop show no more activity during wait-io spikes than in normal work state | 14:00 |
| patdk-wk | most likely a drive had bad sectors | 14:00 |
| patdk-wk | dmesg? | 14:00 |
| patdk-wk | run smart selftests on your drives? | 14:00 |
| spajderix | patdk-wk: dmesg shows something like this: http://pastebin.com/5NzmMw74 | 14:02 |
| RoAkSoAx | Morning all!! | 14:02 |
| patdk-wk | nice, something is crashing :) | 14:03 |
| spajderix | patdk-wk: is there a way to tell what exactly, or at least is it software or hardware? | 14:03 |
| binBASH | pickup, you run postfix? ;) | 14:03 |
| mianosm | Here might be some interesting info for you as well: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/431-what-i-o-wait-under-ps-command.html | 14:04 |
| spajderix | binBASH: yup | 14:04 |
| binBASH | spajderix: so that one is crashing | 14:04 |
| binBASH | spajderix: maybe some big mail in queue? | 14:05 |
| mianosm | ps -wauxf | 14:05 |
| spajderix | mianosm: thanks for link | 14:05 |
| mianosm | Seemingly the databases usually cause the issue, if you're pulling addresses from a db to process through postfix maybe? | 14:06 |
| mianosm | Those D statuses suck, but ps -wauxf should be a good visual for the issue possibly | 14:06 |
| spajderix | let me describe the specs to give a better overview: it's 4x core processor (Intel or something), 4GB RAM running apache,postfix,courier,mysql and configured via ispconfig | 14:07 |
| spajderix | mianosm: and yes, postfix is taking auth data from mysql | 14:07 |
| mianosm | lshw -html > specs.html | 14:08 |
| \sh | spajderix: dstat is also a good indicator of problems....most likely you have a disk problem or cpu 0/core 0 is under heavy load and let interrupts sequentially through or you have a real cpu problem or memory | 14:08 |
| binBASH | moin \sh :) | 14:08 |
| \sh | hey binBASH | 14:09 |
| binBASH | \sh: I just received mail 5 of my system will be delivered today ;) | 14:12 |
| \sh | binBASH: congrats :) send some pics when they arrive :) | 14:13 |
| binBASH | in end of february ;) | 14:13 |
| binBASH | The provider will setup all machines and place them in rack you know | 14:13 |
| binBASH | I will go to datacenter in mid./end of February | 14:14 |
| patdk-wk | and burn them down? | 14:14 |
| binBASH | no | 14:15 |
| binBASH | I will move some machines from old datacenter and place them in the rack as well | 14:16 |
| spajderix | mianosm: lshw -html http://dl.dropbox.com/u/140067/specs.html | 14:17 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ | 14:17 |
| binBASH | In some months I will need some of those ;) | 14:17 |
| patdk-wk | heh | 14:17 |
| patdk-wk | binbash, don't want to just go with something more stable: http://www.nexsan.com/satabeast.php? | 14:19 |
| hroberts | can someone who is good with grub help me with this wierd issue. WHen booting my server ubuntu 10.10 with 2.6.35.24 kernel, the server will not boot. If I rebbot and go to the grub menu, press c for the command and then manually linux the vmlinuz-2.6.35-24-generic-pae file, and then initrd the same file, I can press esc, and select the kernel and it boots every time. Is there something I can add to grub to resolve | 14:19 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: And it costs 3 or 4 times more? ;) | 14:20 |
| patdk-wk | probably, but is redundant, and has fc :) | 14:20 |
| patdk-wk | so it's not limited to a single computer using it | 14:20 |
| hroberts | can someone who is good with grub help me with this wierd issue. WHen booting my server ubuntu 10.10 with 2.6.35.24 kernel, the server will not boot. If I rebbot and go to the grub menu, press c for the command and then manually linux the vmlinuz-2.6.35-24-generic-pae file, and then initrd the same file, I can press esc, and select the kernel and it boots every time. Is there something I can add to grub to resolve | 14:21 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: What you mean with being redundant, the power supply? ;) | 14:21 |
| patdk-wk | no, psu, controllers, network, fc, drives, ... | 14:21 |
| binBASH | ahh ;) | 14:21 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: well, here I will take 2 or 3 of the boxes for being redundant. Wanna use ceph as software with radosgw | 14:22 |
| patdk-wk | the issue I have with backblaze units, you would have to have drbd between two of them, incase one died | 14:22 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: http://ceph.newdream.net/ | 14:23 |
| binBASH | no drbd needed | 14:23 |
| hroberts | can someone who is good with grub help me with this wierd issue. WHen booting my server ubuntu 10.10 with 2.6.35.24 kernel, the server will not boot. If I rebbot and go to the grub menu, press c for the command and then manually linux the vmlinuz-2.6.35-24-generic-pae file, and then initrd the same file, I can press esc, and select the kernel and it boots every time. Is there something I can add to grub to resolve | 14:25 |
| binBASH | hroberts: provide grub.conf in a paste | 14:26 |
| compdoc | so glad you keep pasting that question before the last paste scrolls off the window - otherwise Id never know you asked it | 14:27 |
| binBASH | lol compdoc | 14:27 |
| hroberts | binBASH: please remind me where grub.conf is located at | 14:28 |
| Japje | locate grub.conf | 14:28 |
| twb | hroberts: /boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.conf, depending on age. | 14:28 |
| binBASH | what twb said | 14:29 |
| Yale | what's the difference between the ubuntu enterprise cloud and server? | 14:29 |
| twb | Yale: a few letters | 14:30 |
| Yale | basically no difference? | 14:30 |
| compdoc | the cloud is still evolving - seems to be many things | 14:30 |
| binBASH | Yale: if you chose ubuntu server you can still build a uec with it ;) | 14:30 |
| hroberts | # | 14:31 |
| hroberts | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE | 14:31 |
| hroberts | # | 14:31 |
| hroberts | # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates | 14:31 |
| hroberts | # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub | 14:31 |
| compdoc | but it seems to me to be mainly user access to your server from anywhere | 14:31 |
| patdk-wk | yay, people might learn to use pastebin | 14:31 |
| twb | compdoc: you mean, like, ssh? | 14:31 |
| * twb grumbles | 14:31 | |
| Yale | I'm currently installing it and wondering whether to choose UEC or default server | 14:31 |
| Yale | but frankly, I don't know the difference between the two | 14:32 |
| compdoc | it seems mainly gui thru a browser | 14:32 |
| patdk-wk | in this context, cloud means to run and manage a cluster of virtual servers | 14:32 |
| patdk-wk | where server means to install and run on bare metal | 14:32 |
| binBASH | patdk-wk: you can still build a cloud with ubuntu server. I did this once. | 14:33 |
| twb | compdoc: I mean that if the only reason you use the cloud is to "access your server from anywhere", you should blooy use sshd :-/ | 14:33 |
| patdk-wk | yes you can :) | 14:33 |
| binBASH | hroberts: use a pastie | 14:33 |
| binBASH | and send us the link | 14:33 |
| hroberts | sorry that was the wrong paste, what is the best way to show it | 14:33 |
| patdk-wk | !pastebinit | 14:33 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 14:33 |
| hroberts | what is a pastie | 14:33 |
| Yale | you could do that with the default one - using webmin, right? Anyway, it's easier to setup UEC it seems | 14:34 |
| patdk-wk | cat /etc/grub/grub.conf | pastebinit | 14:34 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, I don't think uec and webmin have anyhting in common | 14:35 |
| binBASH | Yale: With UEC it's possible to build your own private cloud which is compatible to Amazon EC2 | 14:35 |
| patdk-wk | uec manages servers, webmin manages a server | 14:35 |
| Yale | I don't want to use amazon's cloud. More or less my own private cloud | 14:35 |
| patdk-wk | uec is a clone of amazon's cloud, on your own hardware | 14:36 |
| hroberts | here is the link: http://pastebin.com/1fyh1eif | 14:36 |
| Yale | mmk, thanks. Is the UEC more user friendly to setup or? | 14:37 |
| patdk-wk | heh? | 14:38 |
| patdk-wk | more user friendly? compared to what? | 14:38 |
| Yale | to the barebones ubuntu server installation | 14:38 |
| binBASH | Yale: it's more user friendly than installing ubuntu server and afterwards uec from packages I think | 14:38 |
| JanC | there is nothing easier to set up than the "barebones" Ubuntu server ;) | 14:39 |
| Yale | not for a noob I'm afraid :p | 14:39 |
| patdk-wk | if you mean is it more friendly to setup a website on uec or ubuntu server, they don't compare | 14:39 |
| patdk-wk | you setup uec, then you have to setup ubuntu server inside it | 14:39 |
| Yale | not a website. Personal server | 14:40 |
| * patdk-wk wonders if yale knows what ec2 is | 14:40 | |
| hroberts | it is a grub.cfg file not conf, I believe it is grub2 maybe? | 14:40 |
| binBASH | hroberts: we need your /boot/grub/menu.lst | 14:40 |
| Yale | amazon cloud, if I understood it right... | 14:40 |
| JanC | hroberts: yes, it's for grub2 | 14:40 |
| binBASH | Yale, do you know how to use Amazon EC2? :) | 14:41 |
| zul | Daviey: bug #697753 | 14:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 697753 in eucalyptus "bittorrent recommendation prevents bittorrent demotion" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697753 | 14:41 |
| Yale | nope | 14:41 |
| JanC | binBASH: menu.lst is not used for GRUB2... | 14:41 |
| patdk-wk | yale, how many servers do you have? | 14:41 |
| hroberts | binBASH: file doesn't exist | 14:42 |
| Yale | first time I'm trying more or less | 14:42 |
| binBASH | JanC: Ok, maybe you can help him then, I don't use grub2 | 14:42 |
| binBASH | Yale: Maybe tell us first what you're trying to achieve ;) | 14:43 |
| JanC | heh, now he's gone... | 14:44 |
| binBASH | JanC: Maybe he doesn't know how to use irc probably | 14:45 |
| Yale | hehe :) Basically my own home server to store stuff in - kind of like WHS | 14:45 |
| zul | Daviey: do you want a bzr branch for that one so it can get off my release radar? | 14:45 |
| JanC | Yale: sounds like you want de normal Ubuntu Server then | 14:45 |
| Yale | I would also like to setup an ssh server on it | 14:45 |
| JanC | maybe there are some Ubuntu Server remixes/derivatives that provide similar functionality to WHS | 14:47 |
| binBASH | Yale: You know UEC, is something very different. It is for controlling a pool of servers, where people can request virtualized resources on demand. Also the Virtual Machines will get destroyed when they are shutdown or crash. I think you don't want that | 14:47 |
| compdoc | he doesnt want to manage server farms, he wants cloud benefits | 14:47 |
| compdoc | applications | 14:48 |
| Yale | I thought of UEC more or less as the "controlling" server to manage the computers in its network | 14:48 |
| binBASH | Yale: No it's not | 14:48 |
| Yale | like citrix. Anyway, is it a bad idea to do a test install using virtualbox? | 14:51 |
| JanC | depends what you mean by citrix ;) | 14:51 |
| Yale | citrix xenapp I think | 14:52 |
| zul | smoser: around? whats the status on #684875 and #656646? | 14:53 |
| smoser | bug 684875 is fix-released, i'm mostly certain. i have to test for sure when i386 images boot again for cloud -init | 14:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 684875 in linux "Patch to Natty 2.6.37-virtual breaks non-EC2 users" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684875 | 14:54 |
| smoser | bug 656646 is most likely just networking issues (on my link from here to amazon during testing) | 14:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 656646 in cloud-init "transient network/keyscan issues" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656646 | 14:55 |
| Yale | and should I choose x86 or x64? Apparently ubuntu recommends x64, but I don't know why | 14:55 |
| smoser | for server x86_64 is obvious choice (if your hardware supports it) | 14:57 |
| Yale | it does, but why is it the obvious choice? | 14:57 |
| smoser | the primary reason is that if you chose x86, you cannot run x86_64 software (including virtual machines) | 14:57 |
| smoser | the only reason you would ever chose i386 is if a.) your hardware didn't support it b.) flash was the most important thing in your life. | 14:58 |
| patdk-wk | strange, I run 64bit vm's on my 32bit host os, not that I would want to, and plan to *fix* it, as soon as I can | 14:58 |
| smoser | and b really isn't true so much any more (i run flash on amd64 and haven't noticed issues in a long time) | 14:58 |
| smoser | at least under kvm and linux i think you will not get hardware virutalization help in the 64 bit guests | 14:58 |
| smoser | i suppose i could be wrong though | 14:59 |
| soren | patdk-wk: 32 bit host kernel? | 14:59 |
| patdk-wk | yep | 14:59 |
| patdk-wk | 2.6.32-27-generic-pae | 14:59 |
| patdk-wk | on the host | 14:59 |
| soren | I can't imagine you would get hardware acceleration, then. | 14:59 |
| soren | I know you didn't used to, and I cannot fathom how that could be "fixed". | 14:59 |
| patdk-wk | I dunno how it would work without hardware acceleration | 15:00 |
| soren | The CPU isn't in long mode, so the VM's coulnd't be either. | 15:00 |
| soren | patdk-wk: Very, very slowly. | 15:00 |
| patdk-wk | pretty sure 64bit requires it, period | 15:00 |
| soren | patdk-wk: Not at all. | 15:00 |
| soren | QEmu can emulate amd64 just fine. | 15:00 |
| patdk-wk | ya, I didn't think it would work at all, myself | 15:00 |
| patdk-wk | using vmware workstation :) | 15:00 |
| soren | Oh. | 15:01 |
| patdk-wk | it doesn't emulate 64bit | 15:01 |
| soren | Fascinating. | 15:02 |
| soren | patdk-wk: On Linux, I presume? | 15:03 |
| patdk-wk | ya | 15:03 |
| patdk-wk | running win7 x64 inside lucid | 15:03 |
| patdk-wk | for those times work requires me to test something, using office :( | 15:04 |
| soren | I suppose they could switch to long mode, run the VM for a time slice, and switch back. | 15:05 |
| soren | Sounds dreadful, though. | 15:05 |
| soren | Turns out that's what they do. | 15:13 |
| soren | Live and learn. | 15:13 |
| soren | patdk-wk: You'll get better performance out of it by running a 64 bit host kernel, though. | 15:14 |
| patdk-wk | ya, I know | 15:14 |
| patdk-wk | I just think it will take me a day or two to switch | 15:14 |
| patdk-wk | and haven't had time yet | 15:14 |
| patdk-wk | that is the only 32bit host machine I have left | 15:15 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: ping | 15:30 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: pong | 15:34 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: hey man | 15:34 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: heya! what's up? | 15:34 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: did some powernap testing with my watt meter | 15:34 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i'm testing version 1.12-0ubuntu1 | 15:35 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: seems to be working well on my hardware | 15:35 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: cool :), does it really reduce power consumption when turning off corse? | 15:35 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: it's a little Asus PC installed with Ubuntu Natty Server | 15:35 |
| RoAkSoAx | s/corse/cores | 15:35 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: at idle, with powernap disabled, consumes 53W of power | 15:36 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: 2 cpus, AMDs | 15:36 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: with powernap enabled, and running, idles at 46.5W of power | 15:36 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: in powersave mode | 15:36 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: that's 12%! | 15:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | nice!! | 15:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | that like 6.5W, which is good | 15:38 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i'd like to test the other monitors | 15:38 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: can you push that newer package? | 15:38 |
| RoAkSoAx | though I'm sure that there's other ways to reduce it even more (probably tunning the speed of fans and things like that) | 15:38 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: yeah, but that might damage a system if you do it wrong | 15:38 |
| patdk-wk | yay, that would save almost 1usd per month | 15:39 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i found a couple of minor issues (i don't think you necessarily introduced them though) | 15:39 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: the WoL thing ... | 15:39 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: so i tried using the wake on lan function from my router to bring the system out of powernap-powersave mode | 15:39 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: the latest is already in the trunk. (and I'm actually improving the WoL as we speak) | 15:40 |
| kirkland | 2011-01-20_23:55:22 DEBUG Starting WoL monitor | 15:40 |
| kirkland | 2011-01-20_23:55:22 DEBUG WoL monitor started at port [7] | 15:40 |
| kirkland | 2011-01-20_23:57:59 DEBUG WoL packet received from 10.1.1.1 | 15:40 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: it detected the packet, which is good | 15:40 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: ok.... | 15:40 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: and 10.1.1.1 is my router, which is where it came from | 15:40 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: but it did not raise it out of powernaping | 15:41 |
| zul | Daviey: the snaphsot of openstack is getting quite stale so im planning of doing an update once launchpad is fixed | 15:41 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: so the logging didn't continue? | 15:41 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556543/ | 15:41 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: look around those timestamps ^ 2011-01-20_23:57:59 | 15:42 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: you'll see that it doesn't do anything with the WoL packet it gets from 10.1.1.1.... however, it *does* wake up from 10.1.1.11 | 15:42 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i'm going to file a couple of bugs to keep track of these | 15:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: 10.1.1.11 is powerwake | 15:43 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: yes | 15:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: yeah, so what I'm guessing here is that the router is using another technique to create the WoL Monitor, which is different WoL data than the one sent from powerwake | 15:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: so let's say the router sends a WoL packet such as: 1234 and powerwake sends a wol packet such as: 123456 | 15:44 |
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| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: so powernap uses eth0 mac, to generate "Wol Data" and then compares with the received one. If it does match, then it takes recover action. Now, given that the function I use to generate that "WoL Data" is the same as the one powerwake uses to create the WoL packet, then that's why it wakes up with powerwake and not with the router | 15:46 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: okay, i'm testing a bunch of WoL utilities now | 15:48 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i think we should try to make it work with most (all?) of them | 15:48 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: otherwise, it's not really "wake on lan" ... is something that specific to powernap/powerwake | 15:49 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: let's compare the wol data that other utilities generate against the one powerwake generates | 15:50 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: if powerwake generates the same data as the other utilities, then it will work | 15:51 |
| RoAkSoAx | or at least it should | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, wol is pretty simple | 16:00 |
| patdk-wk | it's just 6 FF's followed by the mac addres 16x times | 16:01 |
| patdk-wk | nothing else, so you have to search the data of all packets and locate that | 16:01 |
| patdk-wk | generating that should be a no-brainer | 16:01 |
| RoAkSoAx | patdk-wk: yeah apparently there | 16:02 |
| RoAkSoAx | there might be something wrong in the data generation aalgorithm, that's something that I'll figure out in a bit | 16:02 |
| patdk-wk | the only issue I could think of, is if the other wol sender isnt using l4 packets | 16:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | patdk-wk: what powerwake does it generates the wol data and sends a broadcast packet. Then in PowerNap "WolMonitor", it receives that broadcast, and takes the data out and compares, by generating wol data of the local interface against the received data | 16:05 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powernap/+bug/705943 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 705943 in powernap "powerwake triggers wakeonlan monitor, but other wakeonlan implementation does not" [High,Confirmed] | 16:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: what I'm assuming right now is that powerwake's wol packet is different from all packets generated by the other tools | 16:08 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: I'll confirm that in a bit | 16:09 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: okay, question ... | 16:11 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: about the network monitor ... | 16:11 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: it just looks for any traffic on port 22 (or whatever you configure), right? | 16:12 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: yes, it binds the port you configure it (UDP though) | 16:12 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, on the join, mac * 20, repeats the mac 20 times? | 16:15 |
| patdk-wk | wol spec says 16 only is required | 16:15 |
| * patdk-wk doesn't know python :) | 16:15 | |
| hggdh | JamesPage: good morning, I had to change run-test.py -- I was getting a TypeError when writing the attachments: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/556558/ | 16:16 |
| hggdh | JamesPage: the change @617 is the one I am talking about | 16:16 |
| patdk-wk | ya, that is exactly the issue | 16:24 |
| patdk-wk | data = ''.join(['FFFFFFFFFFFF', mac * 16]) will fix it | 16:25 |
| patdk-wk | after that, the next issue will be the recv_wol_msg == local_wol_data | 16:27 |
| patdk-wk | you need to search recv_wol_msg for local_wol_data, if it exists, anywhere in recv_wol_msg, then it matchs | 16:28 |
| patdk-wk | recv_wol_msg.find(local_wol_data), maybe? | 16:31 |
| zul | Daviey: ok new nova snapshot in the archive | 16:54 |
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| claw | hello there i want to change to langue or better the whole location setting for my server | 17:18 |
| claw | how to do this ? | 17:18 |
| claw | forn en_EN to de_DE | 17:18 |
| claw | i have just installed 'language-pack-de' but dont know how to set it as default | 17:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #705982 in cobbler (universe) "/etc/apache2/conf.d/cobbler.conf should be wrapped in IfModule proxy_http" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705982 | 17:35 |
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| zul | SpamapS: patches accepted ;) | 18:24 |
| SpamapS | zul: w00t w00t | 18:29 |
| RoAkSoAx | congrats!! | 18:37 |
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| donvitoo | how to disable sit0 ipv6 down | 19:06 |
| lephisto | greetings to everyone.. | 19:11 |
| lephisto | i have a problem with the libopenais-dev.. any1 up for this? | 19:12 |
| lephisto | i have the feeling that in lucid /usr/lib/openais is missing | 19:13 |
| lephisto | ah problem solved i think. unlike debian they're in /usr/lib not /usr/lib/openais. | 19:18 |
| antii | hell-o | 19:28 |
| Wolfsherz | hi, on each reboot the init-script of apache2 has zero bytes and a file apache2.1 is generated out of nowhere... needless to say that service apache2 start does not work, and i have to rename that apache2.1 after each restart to apache2... whats up with this? | 19:30 |
| Wolfsherz | running ubuntu 10.04 server | 19:30 |
| antii | looking for some help with hardware for a nas/shell, http server. atom/i3? ram etc. | 19:30 |
| gamla_kossan | hey people | 19:31 |
| gamla_kossan | got a really weird one today; did an apt-get update, got this: | 19:31 |
| gamla_kossan | W: GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 19:31 |
| gamla_kossan | anyone able to help me fix this? | 19:32 |
| lephisto | need help trying to compile clvm againt openais | 19:33 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #706038 in samba (main) "251397 is the bug number for last bug samba failed again after updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706038 | 19:42 |
| pmatulis | gamla_kossan: try again or use a different mirror | 19:48 |
| gamla_kossan | pmatulis: I did, with a danish mirror, got the same error | 19:49 |
| lephisto | root@xen1:/etc# /etc/init.d/clvm start | 20:03 |
| lephisto | * Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvm | 20:03 |
| lephisto | ...done. | 20:03 |
| lephisto | * Activating VGs vgsas1 vgtest | 20:03 |
| lephisto | ups ww | 20:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirk/win 4 | 20:06 |
| RoAkSoAx | pffffff | 20:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #706054 in tomcat6 (main) "package tomcat6 6.0.24-2ubuntu1.5 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706054 | 20:11 |
| Ademan | does anyone know about how much a default install of ubuntu-server (10.04) will take up? I'm pressed for disk space and I need to create a VM image large enough for ubuntu + some working room, but like I said, I don't have much disk space to sacrifice in the host | 20:46 |
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| qman__ | Ademan, the base install consumes ~850MB | 20:49 |
| qman__ | you will want at least 1.5GB though if you plan on updating or installing any software | 20:50 |
| Ademan | qman__: thanks | 20:51 |
| Ademan | can I shrink qemu images after the fact? (safely?) | 20:51 |
| qman__ | I don't know, sorry | 20:52 |
| Ademan | it's alright, it's a bit offtopic here anyways, thanks again :-) | 20:52 |
| acicula | using 10.10, qemu,libvirt and sh. after creating a xml domain file i attempted to use attach-disk to register a cdrom device. virsh fails with an unknown error, logs point to apparmor needing an addition to the profile for the vm. But the apparmor profile is tagged as being autogenerated by libvirt. How ddo i make libvirt push an update to apparmor? | 22:11 |
| jdstrand | acicula: adjust either /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu or /etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/libvirt-<uuid> | 22:12 |
| jdstrand | acicula: the former will make the change to all guests, the latter just the guest with the uuid | 22:13 |
| acicula | jdstrand: yeah that works. | 22:13 |
| acicula | jdstrand: point is that the libvirt-uuid file is tagged to be updated by virsh | 22:13 |
| jdstrand | libvirt-uuid.files is rewritten each time, libvirt-uuid is only on creation | 22:14 |
| acicula | ah gotcha, thanx | 22:14 |
| acicula | hmm .files is also listed as managed by libvirt | 22:16 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: ping? | 22:32 |
| aljosa | ubuntu 11.04 will distribute postgres v9.0 or v9.1? | 22:43 |
| acicula | aljosa: there isnt even a 9.1 version out yet | 22:48 |
| acicula | aljosa: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/roadmap | 22:49 |
| acicula | The next release of PostgreSQL is planned to be the 9.1 release. A tentative schedule for this version has a release in the third quarter of 2011. | 22:49 |
| Pici | Third quarter is a bit late for an April release. | 22:49 |
| acicula | i was just thinking that too | 22:51 |
| aljosa | thanks for info | 22:56 |
| ChrisBuchholz | Hey guys. I have a problem on my 10.04.1 server where some of the users cannot ssh in. If i use the -vv argument, i get no errors, outputs just stops right before it goes to "logged in"-output with the users that does work. I have tried setting the loglevel of sshd to debug3, but didnt tell me more. I have noticed that the users where it works's user id and group id (looking in /etc/passwd) is equal to each other, whereas the ones that doesnt | 23:01 |
| RoyK | - bigjools [~quassel@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 23:23 |
| RoyK | ops | 23:24 |
| savid | Does mysql-client use editline now instead of readline? I had Page Up mapped to "history-search-backward" in my .inputrc, and it's not working in mysql. Is there a way to do that with .editrc? | 23:24 |
| RoyK | try #mysql | 23:25 |
| savid | RoyK: well, this is more a question about how mysql is configured with ubuntu by default -- just trying to figure out which input lib it is configured to use on ubuntu server. | 23:26 |
| RoyK | iirc from this test box on 10.10, mysql client uses readline | 23:27 |
| RoyK | just ldd it | 23:27 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: pong, sup? | 23:27 |
| RoyK | s/iirc/afacs/ :P | 23:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: trying to get cobbler running but I just completely broke my system... :) | 23:41 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: oh? | 23:42 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: I had no trouble on a natty vm | 23:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: mine, 1st, wans't able to recognize httpd running after sudo cobbler check | 23:43 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: are you trying to install it in a chroot? That failed for me. | 23:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: nope, I didn't ... I think there's also a bug somewhere else that helped to screw things up | 23:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: will reinstall this weekend and try again | 23:44 |
| anternat | what version? | 23:46 |
| RoAkSoAx | anternat: of what? | 23:46 |
| anternat | yr server distro? | 23:46 |
| RoAkSoAx | natty | 23:46 |
| anternat | ok | 23:47 |
| * RoAkSoAx gone for the day | 23:47 | |
| anternat | cyaz all bye | 23:47 |
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