[00:00] uh... like demon you mean? [00:00] ali1234: hehe [00:00] they have a paki support line [00:00] helpdesk is useless but email seems to work [00:00] ;/ [00:00] ^^, not quite [00:00] according to the webby, business users have UK telephone support [00:00] we get internet speeds years after everyone else has been updated, and some places of cumbria are still on dial-up to this date T_T [00:01] there are technical reasons for that [00:01] * hamitron can vouch for that [00:01] yeah I agree, but its mainly the companies just don't want to invest in it [00:01] rural telephone exchanges use digital multiplexing which is not compatible with DSL [00:02] annoys me when people moan about 3mbit speeds [00:02] grrrrrrr [00:02] a village with 10 hourses might only have 3 physical phone lines [00:02] *houses [00:02] not horses [00:03] omfg [00:03] so when 1 person gets broadband they have to lay a whole new cable over like 10 miles which costs loads [00:03] Egypt has finally upgrade their infrastructure to get at least 256Kbps to people... why can't we? (a first-world country) [00:03] I got 3mbit! [00:03] * hamitron does a back flip [00:03] HazRPG: cairo maybe, not "the middle of nowhere" [00:04] rest have mud huts and get shot if they complain [00:04] ;) [00:04] i bet the situation there is no different, really [00:04] and they are the lucky ones [00:04] i doubt it's quite that bad [00:04] my granddad's (RIP) farm just got it recently [00:05] the US has 56k users... [00:05] and that's MILES away from any city [00:05] hamitron: yeah but in all fairness they have more ground to cover though :P [00:05] distance doesn't matter if there is no multiplexing [00:05] it's about the number of cables in the ground [00:06] heh yeah I know [00:06] they could give 1/4 of rural users fast DSL if they cut off the other 3/4... [00:06] 3dB SNR is not good I assume? ;/ [00:06] because the digital multiplexer puts three phonelines on 1 cable [00:07] what they actually do is shuffle the lines around when someone cancels [00:07] *4 on 1, not 3 [00:08] 3 in 4? [00:08] reckon cutting all the facebook users off would work then [00:08] 4 in 1 [00:08] cut 3 in 4 off I mean [00:08] ;) [00:08] the mux unit works the same way as a DSL modem [00:09] oh ali [00:09] I think I've started something here... [00:09] btw, did you sort that image processing out? [00:09] well i figured out it isn't linear [00:10] i never figured out if it has a name [00:10] did you code it? [00:10] um. yes? [00:10] anyways, point was... I want reliable signal at home and places I visit, and going with a contract is just daft because circumstances change (for anyone) and they get stuck into a contract they hate. [00:10] i coded it before i even asked [00:10] what was the result like? [00:10] dunno, i'm not actually using it on "images" [00:11] k :) [00:11] HazRPG: didn't you get a cheap phone? [00:11] a friend of mine has 6 contracts, just for the gifts he can't afford :/ [00:11] hamitron: it was a Nokia 6220 Classic [00:12] hamitron: so yeah [00:12] I now have a Google (HTC) Nexus One [00:12] but I bought that out-right [00:12] :) [00:12] I wonder how hard it is to build a phone [00:13] that was the first contract phone I've ever gotten... and will be my last... not use to having locked phones :/ [00:13] hamitron: don't think its that hard, there are open-sourced PCB's with schematics n stuff that you can follow to make one [00:13] pretty hard to build a good one [00:13] even harder to get the software to work right [00:14] there are open-sourced ones that work [00:14] yeah but assuming you want a phone that *doesn't* look like a ball of wires [00:14] I don't mind how it looks [00:14] :) [00:14] if it looks like an amature bomb, all the better [00:14] haha [00:15] http://www.todayandtomorrow.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/googlephone.jpg [00:15] I can't seem to find the ones I looked at anymore :/ [00:15] typing in open-source phone/mobile seems to pop up with android stuff :/ [00:15] I want the first portable phone with a breadboard included [00:15] hamitron: haha [00:16] that would be so geeky, it is cool [00:16] "short pins 4 and 5 for silent mode" [00:16] http://www.opencircuits.com/Open_Mobile_Gadgets [00:17] that might help get you started dude [00:17] oh ffs [00:17] don't encourage me [00:17] :/ [00:17] I don't want to be single forever [00:17] ;) [00:17] I use to go on there to build stupid stuff with parts I have lying around ^^ [00:17] hamitron: haha oops [00:18] all these "open" phones use off the shelf gsm modules [00:18] heh, I've given up on relationships for the time being :/ too much hassle sometimes [00:18] tbh, my idea was to use such parts ali1234 [00:18] :) [00:18] not intending to work everything out [00:19] ali1234: well you'd have to... how else you going to talk with the mobile-masts ? [00:19] gnuradio and custom gsm firmware, duh [00:19] http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/gnuradio [00:19] good luck making a portable one though [00:20] http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/OpenBTS - make your own base station [00:21] ali goes all the way [00:21] :) [00:21] haha [00:21] not happy to talk with others, he talks to himself... [00:22] ;) [00:22] ;p [00:22] himself and RMS [00:22] note that it can use asterisk to forward your calls [00:22] i'd probably jump off a cliff at that point [00:23] why do I keep thinking RMS stands for Royal Mail Ship :/ [00:23] it stands for root mean squared... [00:24] haha [00:25] I don't get how RMS relates :/ [00:25] hamitron: this is what you want: http://www.opencellphone.org/index.php?title=Main_Page [00:34] awww guys [00:35] I dunno if I can buy another phone [00:35] :/ [00:35] who needs to waste £400 on a PSP phone [00:35] \o/ [00:44] lol === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [01:10] tuxxy, how do you get a shellium account ? [01:13] marvellous [01:14] can't you just sign up? [01:17] no well last time i looked you have to do something silly like post yourself on youtube dancing [01:18] :) [01:18] did you? [01:18] ;/ [01:18] why not ask #shellium on freenode ? [01:18] no i dont do dancing [01:19] I'm guessing you mean shellium.org right? [01:20] straight out the FAQ: [01:20] Why can't I login to the shell? [01:20] Becasue you haven't come into the #shellium on freenode to get your shell account activated. Registering gets you access to the site and shell but we like to speak with your shortly before we give you full access to our shell. [01:25] edwardteach: I just made an account on shellium with no problems [01:25] just make one on the site [01:25] yeah it was a while ago .. was a whim when i first used telnet etc .. [01:26] and talk to the people @ #shellium [01:26] ah lol [01:26] don't you get an email first? === IdleOne is now known as gpc === liam_ is now known as lazarus_ [06:50] who's channel flooding? [08:02] morning all [08:03] howdy [08:13] morning :) [08:14] evening ^^ [08:14] oh dear, not been to sleep yet HazRPG? [08:15] nopes [08:15] I'm currently doing the night-shift (sorta) heh [08:15] love working from home xD [08:15] have you seen the oatmeal on working from home? [08:24] yay, openERP 6 just got released [08:34] screen-x: nope... [08:35] Morning [08:35] HazRPG: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home [08:35] hi daubers [08:36] Anyone know a good hitman? [08:39] Aloha [08:43] Morning folks [08:43] o/ [08:44] morning [08:44] daubers: that sounds ominous [08:44] daubers: The only hitman I can think of is Brett "The Hitman" Hart, he was a decent hitman in a wrestling entertainment sort of way [08:46] danfish: Smug distributor I really want to give a good kicking because he expects me to fix bugs in blasted Windows [08:48] fully understandable then. Send him a stale cake as a warning? [08:50] Morning all. [08:51] evening [09:13] daubers: I did have a good hitman, but he's retired now. [09:16] Hi peeps [09:23] * DJones wonders what the definition of a "good hitman" is, is one that carries out the hit successfully, one that refuses to do the hit because its morally wrong, or one that goes to confession afterwards [09:25] DJones: ah, the old "quality vs quantity" debate :) [09:28] DaveMorris: the second option is not a hitman at all [09:29] Anyway I prefer Micheala Strachan to The Hitman [09:29] freckle: that seemed kinda weird poping up on my screen [09:30] Heh [09:31] dutchie: argh! Now I've started doing exactly like what those pictures show xD [09:31] freckle: you want The Professional :) [09:32] :) [09:33] don't forget to buy him some milk [09:34] morning === Lcawte|Away is now known as LCawte [09:35] Hi ZMo [09:44] morning all === LCawte is now known as Lcawte === niall is now known as hcfd [09:52] morning all [10:01] according to NUT my UPS input voltage is 229, and the output voltage is 30940, that's quite some transforming its doing.. [10:06] Hello. [10:14] 30kV.. nice :) [10:33] AlanBell: TheOpenSourcerer Any interest to you? http://www.kable.co.uk/local-government-minimising-spending-good-enough-socitm-21jan11 [10:48] i really shouldn't of enabled this talking alarm clock thing on my phone, it just puts me in a bad mood when i wake up to it telling me its gonna be -3 in the uk all day :( [10:48] is there a way like notifier in ubuntu 10.10 for gmail wherein i get notified about the answer for the email sent by me ? [10:48] since my gmail account is bombarded with 1000 emails [10:48] Living without an alarm clock++ [10:49] kaushal: filter away the messages into folders (tags..) in gmail.. have your inbox be empty except for useful mail :) [10:50] heh, I do that [10:51] I even made a special spam filter of my own for stuff I might read when bored [10:51] usually offers from sites I frequent, and like to glance over [10:51] and if I see nothing, rm all from box xD [10:51] (or label/tag) [10:52] why google didn't just call them folders is beyond me :/ [10:52] since most people don't realise that folders are in fact just special files xD [11:04] morning all [11:04] lo [11:06] popey: don't you mean "E lo" [11:07] haha [11:08] davmor2: Thanks for that, I've now got the "Mr Blue Sky" tune rattling round my head [11:08] morning all. [11:09] ho-hum [11:10] hi Myrtti, feeling better? [11:10] morning Myrtti [11:10] DJones: could be worse you could have greyson chances version of paparazzi in you head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDlC7YV5is [11:10] AlanBell: neck feels better, however due to family issues messing up my head I'm on sickleave [11:11] so: ho-hum [11:11] Myrtti: :( [11:11] in other news: http://www.urbanears.com/category/plattan [11:11] no pink ones in stock :-< [11:11] * davmor2 prods czajkowski to see if she managed to find her missing lung [11:12] * czajkowski stabs davmor2 oi no prodding [11:12] czajkowski: :P how you doing [11:13] good bit better thanks [11:14] czajkowski: find your lung in the end? [11:14] yeah once I woke at 5 [11:57] \o/ replacement rack rails arrived [11:57] /o\ they are exactly the same as the originals and still don't fit === niall is now known as hcfd === denny_ is now known as denny [12:43] screen-x: definitely Hammer Time ;) [12:44] Stop? [12:47] HALT [12:48] bigcalm: Hammer Time [13:27] Humm [13:27] Does Seesaw not work in Chrome on Ubuntu? [13:27] Just says "missing plugin" but doesn't say which one [13:30] popey: mind if I mess about on your server for a while? [13:30] bigcalm, works here [13:30] feel free [13:30] Yay [13:30] want me to reset the map and op you? [13:30] * bigcalm burns everything [13:31] I have no idea what being an op would do for me [13:31] you can give yourself any item [13:31] to play with [13:31] e.g. TNT [13:31] And isn't the point of a server to jointly build stuff? [13:31] Ah, that's cheating :) [13:31] or dick about :) [13:31] it's not a map I am emotionally attached to [13:31] others already blew up the spawn point last night [13:32] so when you spawn you fall :) [13:32] I wondered why I spawned under water [13:32] shall I restart it with a new clean map? [13:32] uncheated upon? [13:32] Go on then [13:32] ok, logout [13:32] Done [13:33] directhex: works now, how odd [13:35] done [13:39] bigcalm: server is up, no cheating :) [13:39] Ta :) [13:49] bigcalm: just gave you a saddle :) [13:49] you can ride pigs with it [13:49] what game are you playing ? [13:50] minecraft [13:51] oh. dont know it [13:51] I just showed minecraft to dsample yesterday and he was all like "huh, and this is supposed to be fun?" [13:52] popey: I wondered why I just had a saddle. Ta :) [13:53] Myrtti: Looks aren't everything are they? :) [14:00] hey guys! afternoon. [14:01] Need to write a script to trigger phone calls if email receieved to a certain address.. got asterisk setup to do the call handling. Just wondering if anyone could give me a push in the right direction regarding 'best practise' for these kind of things? [14:04] Myrtti: it's a question of taste :) [14:06] Mmm...taste [14:07] Mud house built close to spawn point. Will do for now [14:07] Mmm...seeker [14:07] * DJones tastes a fruit pastille [14:07] \o/ mud [14:07] Hai Popey [14:07] Though no lights yet. I'm afraid of the dark! [14:08] i managed to log into minecraft last night, i found *white* tree's [14:08] it blew my mind [14:08] Silver birch by the looks of it [14:09] yeah [14:09] and black sheep [14:09] The logs can't be stacked with original logs, but they yeld the same wood [14:09] and octopi [14:10] and fish! [14:10] and dye! [14:10] lots of new stuff [14:10] http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/3/32/Template1.png [14:10] can't find any squid, its annoying, they seem to only spawn in newly generated areas [14:11] yeah [14:11] you have to go for a wander to generate a new map [14:13] thinking about just throwing all my iron/diamond/tools into lava, walking forward till i find somewhere interesting and starting again some time [14:13] gord: rm -rf! rm -rf! [14:13] gord: save yourself! [14:13] you have confused me [14:14] gord: Minecrack addiction intervention team, standing by :) [14:14] i just removed the map [14:14] and it created a nice new one [14:14] also http://popeydc.dyndns.org/ <- automagically generating maps :) [14:14] i play on a server with other people, don't think they would like that [14:14] heh [14:14] http://gordallott.com/img/minecraft.png <- automagically generating map with day/night transition ;) [14:15] what do you use for that? [14:15] err i'm not sure, mc something [14:15] lemme check [14:16] mcmap :) has a git repo so you can build from there and just use a script + cron to generate and change to night [14:17] * popey fiddles with the one he uses [14:19] there was another utility i used with it as well, it was awesome. it got the terrain biome colours into mcmap - very pretty, but it screwed up the saves :( [14:19] http://gordallott.com/img/history/history-1295553601.png looks like that during the day [14:21] * popey tries mcmap [14:22] dutchie would like mcmap [14:22] g++ -O3 -c -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -pedantic -DWITHPNG -I/usr/local/include main.cpp -o main.default.o [14:22] ▞▀▖▌ ▞▀▖▌ ▌▞▀▖ [14:22] ▙▄▌▌ ▌ ▌▙▄▌▙▄▌ [14:22] ▌ ▌▌ ▌ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌ [14:22] ▘ ▘▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▘▘ ▘ [14:22] -pedantic [14:22] * popey jumps [14:22] i heard that eventually portals will link servers, we can link up then :) [14:22] Yikes! [14:22] amazing what rest will do for you [14:22] * davmor2 prods czajkowski to judge how well she really is [14:23] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [14:23] everyone down down south call the paramedics now there's something really wrong with czajkowski [14:25] definitely.. [14:27] czajkowski: I take it you're feeling something near human again then :) [14:27] yeah [14:27] gord: seems no way to tell mcmap where to save the output file? [14:27] it just dumps output.png in the current dir? [14:28] popey, seems so, i just move the files in my script [14:28] ok [14:28] will do that [14:28] TheOpenSourcerer: did you manage to get everything transferred in the end I forgot to ask you yesterday? [14:28] there are other map software's that do a cool google maps zooming in/out thingy, but i never figured them out [14:29] my world isn't big enough anyway [14:31] http://popeydc.dyndns.org/ [14:31] yay [14:31] thanks gord [14:31] :) you got some weird chunks there [14:31] yeah [14:31] i blame bigcalm [14:31] * bigcalm looks up [14:33] * bigcalm ponders a mote of water or lava [14:33] erm. so this game. you build a world. and then what ? [14:33] the website has very little info [14:33] exobuzz: have a look on youtube for some videos [14:34] There are lots [14:34] you punch trees [14:34] exobuzz, lego. [14:34] its lego [14:35] its not a game, its lego in a dynamic changing world [14:35] ok. [14:35] with zombies [14:35] it's under development so stuff changes [14:35] and skeletons that sometimes ride giant spiders [14:35] http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki is worth a look [14:35] only saw that once... live in fear now that spiders climb walls [14:36] it sounds like the sort of game i should avoid, in case i like it. i mean i dont have time to fix my leanto, let alone build some virtual world out of blocks] [14:36] :) [14:37] STOP THE PRESSES... Aliens discovered in downing street, Unicorn found in field in Wales, Duke Nukem Forever given release date. Which of those three is the most likely [14:37] exobuzz, no, you don't have time to do real world things because you are so busy in minecraft, not other way around [14:37] DJones: Next time, lock your TARDIS [14:37] gord, that was my point, hence i should avoid it :) [14:37] DJones: The 2nd one [14:38] exobuzz: its fun! [14:38] Heh [14:38] 3rd may btw :P [14:38] my kids _love_ it [14:38] ive not even played the humble indie bundle 1 yet. [14:38] heh [14:38] i'v seen people with families hosting tiny private servers and they all play together, its adorable [14:38] it looks like a nice idea though for sure [14:41] davmor2: Yes, thankyou. I ended up using lftp but it works. [14:42] TheOpenSourcerer: that's all that matters :) [14:45] It's still a bit cludgy... There's no way I could find to get it to do a "silent" mkdir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556533/ [15:01] * hamitron has his giffgaff [15:01] :) [15:01] ty pops [15:01] :) [15:01] no, ty [15:01] so now I can spend ages considering if I should transfer my number [15:01] :/ [15:02] tempted to not, then use this as a testing sim [15:02] thats what I did [15:02] i received a call on my giffgaff phone yesterday [15:03] nobody knows the number [15:03] probably automated spam [15:03] :( [15:03] I've just totally reinstalled Ubuntu, installed all my apps, restored my Evolution backup, connected to U1 and back ready to work in just over 30 minutes... that's crazy [15:03] Giffgaff? [15:03] be silly to phone me, I never answer [15:03] ;) [15:03] seeker: http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/popey [15:03] :) [15:05] tempted :/ http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9533 [15:08] popey: Could have been a reused number, I've had that in the past [15:09] phone the caller yourself and demand they stop in an abusive manner [15:10] that normally stops it [15:11] but popey is maybe too nice ;) [15:13] :) [15:16] popey, unlimited data for 15 a month? really unlimited? [15:17] heh my exact question to..! tempted as it runs on o2 network which i like [15:18] Is unlimited really unlimited? [15:18] The answer is yes, we are unlimited for personal mobile use - but not for commercial and automated use. Mobile Internet allowances exclude PC use and tethering. [15:18] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumpordie/5375065392/ <-- made in inkscape, not a photo [15:19] gord: apparently [15:19] how can they know you are not using it for "pc use"? [15:19] interesting, might make for a good sim for my netbook [15:21] gord, thats bloody amazing really [15:22] "I took my sim out of my phone, popped it into this, and after I loaded up hyperterm it said "RING RING RING" and I missed a call from my girlfriend :( This thing is pretty cool though." hehe [15:23] I reckon I may not transfer my number thinking about it [15:23] ideal for just playing with [15:27] that does look good, I wonder if it would be a better deal than the 3 prepaid that I occasionally use in UK [15:28] gord: not allowed [15:29] gord: explicitly not allowed to use it in a pc / dongle or for tethering [15:30] i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to tell the difference ;) hell my netbook runs android! but i don't want to be an arse about it, i'm sure they have realistic (too much data usage) reasons for it [15:31] what about using this? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9342 [15:31] technically attached to a pc, but I wouldn't be using it for data [15:42] * bigcalm takes a break from the addition [15:42] addiction [15:55]