[00:00] <ali1234> uh... like demon you mean?
[00:00] <hamitron> ali1234: hehe
[00:00] <hamitron> they have a paki support line
[00:00] <ali1234> helpdesk is useless but email seems to work
[00:00] <hamitron> ;/
[00:00] <HazRPG> ^^, not quite
[00:00] <hamitron> according to the webby, business users have UK telephone support
[00:00] <HazRPG> we get internet speeds years after everyone else has been updated, and some places of cumbria are still on dial-up to this date T_T
[00:01] <ali1234> there are technical reasons for that
[00:01]  * hamitron can vouch for that
[00:01] <HazRPG> yeah I agree, but its mainly the companies just don't want to invest in it
[00:01] <ali1234> rural telephone exchanges use digital multiplexing which is not compatible with DSL
[00:02] <hamitron> annoys me when people moan about 3mbit speeds
[00:02] <hamitron> grrrrrrr
[00:02] <ali1234> a village with 10 hourses might only have 3 physical phone lines
[00:02] <ali1234> *houses
[00:02] <ali1234> not horses
[00:03] <hamitron> omfg
[00:03] <ali1234> so when 1 person gets broadband they have to lay a whole new cable over like 10 miles which costs loads
[00:03] <HazRPG> Egypt has finally upgrade their infrastructure to get at least 256Kbps to people... why can't we? (a first-world country)
[00:03] <hamitron> I got 3mbit!
[00:03]  * hamitron does a back flip
[00:03] <ali1234> HazRPG: cairo maybe, not "the middle of nowhere"
[00:04] <hamitron> rest have mud huts and get shot if they complain
[00:04] <hamitron> ;)
[00:04] <ali1234> i bet the situation there is no different, really
[00:04] <hamitron> and they are the lucky ones
[00:04] <ali1234> i doubt it's quite that bad
[00:04] <HazRPG> my granddad's (RIP) farm just got it recently
[00:05] <hamitron> the US has 56k users...
[00:05] <HazRPG> and that's MILES away from any city
[00:05] <HazRPG> hamitron: yeah but in all fairness they have more ground to cover though :P
[00:05] <ali1234> distance doesn't matter if there is no multiplexing
[00:05] <ali1234> it's about the number of cables in the ground
[00:06] <HazRPG> heh yeah I know
[00:06] <ali1234> they could give 1/4 of rural users fast DSL if they cut off the other 3/4...
[00:06] <hamitron> 3dB SNR is not good I assume? ;/
[00:06] <ali1234> because the digital multiplexer puts three phonelines on 1 cable
[00:07] <ali1234> what they actually do is shuffle the lines around when someone cancels
[00:07] <ali1234> *4 on 1, not 3
[00:08] <hamitron> 3 in 4?
[00:08] <hamitron> reckon cutting all the facebook users off would work then
[00:08] <ali1234> 4 in 1
[00:08] <hamitron> cut 3 in 4 off I mean
[00:08] <hamitron> ;)
[00:08] <ali1234> the mux unit works the same way as a DSL modem
[00:09] <hamitron> oh ali
[00:09] <HazRPG> I think I've started something here...
[00:09] <hamitron> btw, did you sort that image processing out?
[00:09] <ali1234> well i figured out it isn't linear
[00:10] <ali1234> i never figured out if it has a name
[00:10] <hamitron> did you code it?
[00:10] <ali1234> um. yes?
[00:10] <HazRPG> anyways, point was... I want reliable signal at home and places I visit, and going with a contract is just daft because circumstances change (for anyone) and they get stuck into a contract they hate.
[00:10] <ali1234> i coded it before i even asked
[00:10] <hamitron> what was the result like?
[00:10] <ali1234> dunno, i'm not actually using it on "images"
[00:11] <hamitron> k :)
[00:11] <hamitron> HazRPG: didn't you get a cheap phone?
[00:11] <hamitron> a friend of mine has 6 contracts, just for the gifts he can't afford :/
[00:11] <HazRPG> hamitron: it was a Nokia 6220 Classic
[00:12] <HazRPG> hamitron: so yeah
[00:12] <HazRPG> I now have a Google (HTC) Nexus One
[00:12] <HazRPG> but I bought that out-right
[00:12] <hamitron> :)
[00:12] <hamitron> I wonder how hard it is to build a phone
[00:13] <HazRPG> that was the first contract phone I've ever gotten... and will be my last... not use to having locked phones :/
[00:13] <HazRPG> hamitron: don't think its that hard, there are open-sourced PCB's with schematics n stuff that you can follow to make one
[00:13] <ali1234> pretty hard to build a good one
[00:13] <ali1234> even harder to get the software to work right
[00:14] <HazRPG> there are open-sourced ones that work
[00:14] <ali1234> yeah but assuming you want a phone that *doesn't* look like a ball of wires
[00:14] <hamitron> I don't mind how it looks
[00:14] <hamitron> :)
[00:14] <hamitron> if it looks like an amature bomb, all the better
[00:14] <HazRPG> haha
[00:15] <ali1234> http://www.todayandtomorrow.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/googlephone.jpg
[00:15] <HazRPG> I can't seem to find the ones I looked at anymore :/
[00:15] <HazRPG> typing in open-source phone/mobile seems to pop up with android stuff :/
[00:15] <hamitron> I want the first portable phone with a breadboard included
[00:15] <HazRPG> hamitron: haha
[00:16] <hamitron> that would be so geeky, it is cool
[00:16] <hamitron> "short pins 4 and 5 for silent mode"
[00:16] <HazRPG> http://www.opencircuits.com/Open_Mobile_Gadgets
[00:17] <HazRPG> that might help get you started dude
[00:17] <hamitron> oh ffs
[00:17] <hamitron> don't encourage me
[00:17] <hamitron> :/
[00:17] <hamitron> I don't want to be single forever
[00:17] <hamitron> ;)
[00:17] <HazRPG> I use to go on there to build stupid stuff with parts I have lying around ^^
[00:17] <HazRPG> hamitron: haha oops
[00:18] <ali1234> all these "open" phones use off the shelf gsm modules
[00:18] <HazRPG> heh, I've given up on relationships for the time being :/ too much hassle sometimes
[00:18] <hamitron> tbh, my idea was to use such parts ali1234
[00:18] <hamitron> :)
[00:18] <hamitron> not intending to work everything out
[00:19] <HazRPG> ali1234: well you'd have to... how else you going to talk with the mobile-masts ?
[00:19] <ali1234> gnuradio and custom gsm firmware, duh
[00:19] <ali1234> http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/gnuradio
[00:19] <ali1234> good luck making a portable one though
[00:20] <ali1234> http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/OpenBTS - make your own base station
[00:21] <hamitron> ali goes all the way
[00:21] <hamitron> :)
[00:21] <HazRPG> haha
[00:21] <hamitron> not happy to talk with others, he talks to himself...
[00:22] <hamitron> ;)
[00:22] <HazRPG> ;p
[00:22] <directhex> himself and RMS
[00:22] <ali1234> note that it can use asterisk to forward your calls
[00:22] <directhex> i'd probably jump off a cliff at that point
[00:23] <HazRPG> why do I keep thinking RMS stands for Royal Mail Ship :/
[00:23] <ali1234> it stands for root mean squared...
[00:24] <HazRPG> haha
[00:25] <hamitron> I don't get how RMS relates :/
[00:25] <HazRPG> hamitron: this is what you want: http://www.opencellphone.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[00:34] <hamitron> awww guys
[00:35] <hamitron> I dunno if I can buy another phone
[00:35] <hamitron> :/
[00:35] <hamitron> who needs to waste £400 on a PSP phone
[00:35] <hamitron> \o/
[00:44] <HazRPG> lol
[01:10] <edwardteach> tuxxy, how do you get a shellium account ?
[01:13] <edwardteach> marvellous
[01:14] <hamitron> can't you just sign up?
[01:17] <edwardteach> no well last time i looked you have to do something silly like post yourself on youtube  dancing
[01:18] <hamitron> :)
[01:18] <hamitron> did you?
[01:18] <hamitron> ;/
[01:18] <HazRPG> why not ask #shellium on freenode ?
[01:18] <edwardteach> no i dont do dancing
[01:19] <HazRPG> I'm guessing you mean shellium.org right?
[01:20] <HazRPG> straight out the FAQ:
[01:20] <HazRPG> Why can't I login to the shell?
[01:20] <HazRPG> Becasue you haven't come into the #shellium on freenode to get your shell account activated. Registering gets you access to the site and shell but we like to speak with your shortly before we give you full access to our shell.
[01:25] <HazRPG> edwardteach: I just made an account on shellium with no problems
[01:25] <HazRPG> just make one on the site
[01:25] <edwardteach> yeah it was a while ago ..    was a whim   when i first used telnet etc ..
[01:26] <HazRPG> and talk to the people @ #shellium
[01:26] <HazRPG> ah lol
[01:26] <hamitron> don't you get an email first?
[06:50] <HazRPG> who's channel flooding?
[08:02] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:03] <HazRPG> howdy
[08:13] <screen-x> morning :)
[08:14] <HazRPG> evening ^^
[08:14] <screen-x> oh dear, not been to sleep yet HazRPG?
[08:15] <HazRPG> nopes
[08:15] <HazRPG> I'm currently doing the night-shift (sorta) heh
[08:15] <HazRPG> love working from home xD
[08:15] <screen-x> have you seen the oatmeal on working from home?
[08:24] <AlanBell> yay, openERP 6 just got released
[08:34] <HazRPG> screen-x: nope...
[08:35] <daubers> Morning
[08:35] <dutchie> HazRPG: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home
[08:35] <dutchie> hi daubers
[08:36] <daubers> Anyone know a good hitman?
[08:39] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:43] <DJones> Morning folks
[08:43] <daubers> o/
[08:44] <danfish> morning
[08:44] <danfish> daubers: that sounds ominous
[08:44] <DJones> daubers: The only hitman I can think of is Brett "The Hitman" Hart, he was a decent hitman in a wrestling entertainment sort of way
[08:46] <daubers> danfish: Smug distributor I really want to give a good kicking because he expects me to fix bugs in blasted Windows
[08:48] <danfish> fully understandable then. Send him a stale cake as a warning?
[08:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all.
[08:51] <HazRPG> evening
[09:13] <screen-x> daubers: I did have a good hitman, but he's retired now.
[09:16] <bigcalm> Hi peeps
[09:23]  * DJones wonders what the definition of a "good hitman" is, is one that carries out the hit successfully, one that refuses to do the hit because its morally wrong, or one that goes to confession afterwards
[09:25] <MartijnVdS> DJones: ah, the old "quality vs quantity" debate :)
[09:28] <freckle> DaveMorris: the second option is not a hitman at all
[09:29] <freckle> Anyway I prefer Micheala Strachan to The Hitman
[09:29] <DaveMorris> freckle: that seemed kinda weird poping up on my screen
[09:30] <DJones> Heh
[09:31] <HazRPG> dutchie: argh! Now I've started doing exactly like what those pictures show xD
[09:31] <MartijnVdS> freckle: you want The Professional :)
[09:32] <freckle> :)
[09:33] <MartijnVdS> don't forget to buy him some milk
[09:34] <ZMo> morning
[09:35] <DJones> Hi ZMo
[09:44] <gord> morning all
[09:52] <diplo> morning all
[10:01] <screen-x> according to NUT my UPS input voltage is 229, and the output voltage is 30940, that's quite some transforming its doing..
[10:06] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> 30kV.. nice :)
[10:33] <DJones> AlanBell: TheOpenSourcerer Any interest to you? http://www.kable.co.uk/local-government-minimising-spending-good-enough-socitm-21jan11
[10:48] <gord> i really shouldn't of enabled this talking alarm clock thing on my phone, it just puts me in a bad mood when i wake up to it telling me its gonna be -3 in the uk all day :(
[10:48] <kaushal> is there a way like notifier in ubuntu 10.10 for gmail wherein i get notified about the answer for the email sent by me ?
[10:48] <kaushal> since my gmail account is bombarded with 1000 emails
[10:48] <MartijnVdS> Living without an alarm clock++
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> kaushal: filter away the messages into folders (tags..) in gmail.. have your inbox be empty except for useful mail :)
[10:50] <HazRPG> heh, I do that
[10:51] <HazRPG> I even made a special spam filter of my own for stuff I might read when bored
[10:51] <HazRPG> usually offers from sites I frequent, and like to glance over
[10:51] <HazRPG> and if I see nothing, rm all from box xD
[10:51] <HazRPG> (or label/tag)
[10:52] <HazRPG> why google didn't just call them folders is beyond me :/
[10:52] <HazRPG> since most people don't realise that folders are in fact just special files xD
[11:04] <davmor2> morning all
[11:04] <popey> lo
[11:06] <davmor2> popey: don't you mean "E lo"
[11:07] <popey> haha
[11:08] <DJones> davmor2: Thanks for that, I've now got the "Mr Blue Sky" tune rattling round my head
[11:08] <brobostigon> morning all.
[11:09] <Myrtti> ho-hum
[11:10] <AlanBell> hi Myrtti, feeling better?
[11:10] <brobostigon> morning Myrtti
[11:10] <davmor2> DJones: could be worse you could have greyson chances version of paparazzi in you head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDlC7YV5is
[11:10] <Myrtti> AlanBell: neck feels better, however due to family issues messing up my head I'm on sickleave
[11:11] <Myrtti> so: ho-hum
[11:11] <davmor2> Myrtti: :(
[11:11] <Myrtti> in other news: http://www.urbanears.com/category/plattan
[11:11] <Myrtti> no pink ones in stock :-<
[11:11]  * davmor2 prods czajkowski to see if she managed to find her missing lung
[11:12]  * czajkowski stabs davmor2 oi no prodding 
[11:12] <davmor2> czajkowski: :P how you doing
[11:13] <czajkowski> good bit better thanks
[11:14] <davmor2> czajkowski: find your lung in the end?
[11:14] <czajkowski> yeah once I woke at 5
[11:57] <screen-x> \o/ replacement rack rails arrived
[11:57] <screen-x>  /o\ they are exactly the same as the originals and still don't fit
[12:43] <danfish> screen-x: definitely Hammer Time ;)
[12:44] <bigcalm> Stop?
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> HALT
[12:48] <davmor2> bigcalm: Hammer Time
[13:27] <bigcalm> Humm
[13:27] <bigcalm> Does Seesaw not work in Chrome on Ubuntu?
[13:27] <bigcalm> Just says "missing plugin" but doesn't say which one
[13:30] <bigcalm> popey: mind if I mess about on your server for a while?
[13:30] <directhex> bigcalm, works here
[13:30] <popey> feel free
[13:30] <bigcalm> Yay
[13:30] <popey> want me to reset the map and op you?
[13:30]  * bigcalm burns everything
[13:31] <bigcalm> I have no idea what being an op would do for me
[13:31] <popey> you can give yourself any item
[13:31] <popey> to play with
[13:31] <popey> e.g. TNT
[13:31] <bigcalm> And isn't the point of a server to jointly build stuff?
[13:31] <bigcalm> Ah, that's cheating :)
[13:31] <popey> or dick about :)
[13:31] <popey> it's not a map I am emotionally attached to
[13:31] <popey> others already blew up the spawn point last night
[13:32] <popey> so when you spawn you fall :)
[13:32] <bigcalm> I wondered why I spawned under water
[13:32] <popey> shall I restart it with a new clean map?
[13:32] <popey> uncheated upon?
[13:32] <bigcalm> Go on then
[13:32] <popey> ok, logout
[13:32] <bigcalm> Done
[13:33] <bigcalm> directhex: works now, how odd
[13:35] <popey> done
[13:39] <popey> bigcalm: server is up, no cheating :)
[13:39] <bigcalm> Ta :)
[13:49] <popey> bigcalm: just gave you a saddle :)
[13:49] <popey> you can ride pigs with it
[13:49] <exobuzz> what game are you playing ?
[13:50] <popey> minecraft
[13:51] <exobuzz> oh. dont know it
[13:51] <Myrtti> I just showed minecraft to dsample yesterday and he was all like "huh, and this is supposed to be fun?"
[13:52] <bigcalm> popey: I wondered why I just had a saddle. Ta :)
[13:53] <bigcalm> Myrtti: Looks aren't everything are they?  :)
[14:00] <andylockran> hey guys! afternoon.
[14:01] <andylockran> Need to write a script to trigger phone calls if email receieved to a certain address..  got asterisk setup to do the call handling.  Just wondering if anyone could give me a push in the right direction regarding 'best practise' for these kind of things?
[14:04] <popey> Myrtti: it's a question of taste :)
[14:06] <seeker> Mmm...taste
[14:07] <bigcalm> Mud house built close to spawn point. Will do for now
[14:07] <popey> Mmm...seeker
[14:07]  * DJones tastes a fruit pastille
[14:07] <popey> \o/ mud
[14:07] <seeker> Hai Popey
[14:07] <bigcalm> Though no lights yet. I'm afraid of the dark!
[14:08] <gord> i managed to log into minecraft last night, i found *white* tree's
[14:08] <gord> it blew my mind
[14:08] <bigcalm> Silver birch by the looks of it
[14:09] <popey> yeah
[14:09] <popey> and black sheep
[14:09] <bigcalm> The logs can't be stacked with original logs, but they yeld the same wood
[14:09] <popey> and octopi
[14:10] <popey> and fish!
[14:10] <popey> and dye!
[14:10] <popey> lots of new stuff
[14:10] <popey> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/3/32/Template1.png
[14:10] <gord> can't find any squid, its annoying, they seem to only spawn in newly generated areas
[14:11] <popey> yeah
[14:11] <popey> you have to go for a wander to generate a new map
[14:13] <gord> thinking about just throwing all my iron/diamond/tools into lava, walking forward till i find somewhere interesting and starting again some time
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> gord: rm -rf! rm -rf!
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> gord: save yourself!
[14:13] <gord> you have confused me
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> gord: Minecrack addiction intervention team, standing by :)
[14:14] <popey> i just removed the map
[14:14] <popey> and it created a nice new one
[14:14] <popey> also http://popeydc.dyndns.org/ <- automagically generating maps :)
[14:14] <gord> i play on a server with other people, don't think they would like that
[14:14] <popey> heh
[14:14] <gord> http://gordallott.com/img/minecraft.png <- automagically generating map with day/night transition ;)
[14:15] <popey> what do you use for that?
[14:15] <gord> err i'm not sure, mc something
[14:15] <gord> lemme check
[14:16] <gord> mcmap :) has a git repo so you can build from there and just use a script + cron to generate and change to night
[14:17]  * popey fiddles with the one he uses
[14:19] <gord> there was another utility i used with it as well, it was awesome. it got the terrain biome colours into mcmap - very pretty, but it screwed up the saves :(
[14:19] <gord> http://gordallott.com/img/history/history-1295553601.png looks like that during the day
[14:21]  * popey tries mcmap
[14:22] <popey> dutchie would like mcmap
[14:22] <popey> g++ -O3 -c -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -pedantic -DWITHPNG -I/usr/local/include main.cpp -o main.default.o
[14:22] <czajkowski> ▞▀▖▌  ▞▀▖▌ ▌▞▀▖
[14:22] <czajkowski> ▙▄▌▌  ▌ ▌▙▄▌▙▄▌
[14:22] <czajkowski> ▌ ▌▌  ▌ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌
[14:22] <czajkowski> ▘ ▘▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▘▘ ▘
[14:22] <popey>  -pedantic
[14:22]  * popey jumps
[14:22] <gord> i heard that eventually portals will link servers, we can link up then :)
[14:22] <bigcalm> Yikes!
[14:22] <czajkowski> amazing what rest will do for you
[14:22]  * davmor2 prods czajkowski to judge how well she really is
[14:23]  * czajkowski hugs davmor2 
[14:23] <davmor2> everyone down down south call the paramedics now there's something really wrong with czajkowski
[14:25] <andylockran> definitely..
[14:27] <davmor2> czajkowski: I take it you're feeling something near human again then :)
[14:27] <czajkowski> yeah
[14:27] <popey> gord: seems no way to tell mcmap where to save the output file?
[14:27] <popey> it just dumps output.png in the current dir?
[14:28] <gord> popey, seems so, i just move the files in my script
[14:28] <popey> ok
[14:28] <popey> will do that
[14:28] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: did you manage to get everything transferred in the end I forgot to ask you yesterday?
[14:28] <gord> there are other map software's that do a cool google maps zooming in/out thingy, but i never figured them out
[14:29] <gord> my world isn't big enough anyway
[14:31] <popey> http://popeydc.dyndns.org/
[14:31] <popey> yay
[14:31] <popey> thanks gord
[14:31] <gord> :) you got some weird chunks there
[14:31] <popey> yeah
[14:31] <popey> i blame bigcalm
[14:31]  * bigcalm looks up
[14:33]  * bigcalm ponders a mote of water or lava
[14:33] <exobuzz> erm. so this game. you build a world. and then what ?
[14:33] <exobuzz> the website has very little info
[14:33] <bigcalm> exobuzz: have a look on youtube for some videos
[14:34] <bigcalm> There are lots
[14:34] <ali1234> you punch trees
[14:34] <gord> exobuzz, lego.
[14:34] <gord> its lego
[14:35] <gord> its not a game, its lego in a dynamic changing world
[14:35] <exobuzz> ok.
[14:35] <popey> with zombies
[14:35] <popey> it's under development so stuff changes
[14:35] <gord> and skeletons that sometimes ride giant spiders
[14:35] <popey> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki is worth a look
[14:35] <gord> only saw that once... live in fear now that spiders climb walls
[14:36] <exobuzz> it sounds like the sort of game i should avoid, in case i like it. i mean i dont have time to fix my leanto, let alone build some virtual world out of blocks]
[14:36] <exobuzz> :)
[14:37] <DJones> STOP THE PRESSES... Aliens discovered in downing street, Unicorn found in field in Wales, Duke Nukem Forever given release date.  Which of those three is the most likely
[14:37] <gord> exobuzz, no, you don't have time to do real world things because you are so busy in minecraft, not other way around
[14:37] <MartijnVdS> DJones: Next time, lock your TARDIS
[14:37] <exobuzz> gord, that was my point, hence i should avoid it :)
[14:37] <seeker> DJones: The 2nd one
[14:38] <popey> exobuzz: its fun!
[14:38] <DJones> Heh
[14:38] <seeker> 3rd may btw :P
[14:38] <popey> my kids _love_ it
[14:38] <exobuzz> ive not even played the humble indie bundle 1 yet.
[14:38] <exobuzz> heh
[14:38] <gord> i'v seen people with families hosting tiny private servers and they all play together, its adorable
[14:38] <exobuzz> it looks like a nice idea though for sure
[14:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> davmor2: Yes, thankyou. I ended up using lftp but it works.
[14:42] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: that's all that matters :)
[14:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's still a bit cludgy... There's no way I could find to get it to do a "silent" mkdir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556533/
[15:01]  * hamitron has his giffgaff
[15:01] <popey> :)
[15:01] <hamitron> ty pops
[15:01] <hamitron> :)
[15:01] <popey> no, ty
[15:01] <hamitron> so now I can spend ages considering if I should transfer my number
[15:01] <hamitron> :/
[15:02] <hamitron> tempted to not, then use this as a testing sim
[15:02] <popey> thats what I did
[15:02] <popey> i received a call on my giffgaff phone yesterday
[15:03] <popey> nobody knows the number
[15:03] <popey> probably automated spam
[15:03] <hamitron> :(
[15:03] <kazade> I've just totally reinstalled Ubuntu, installed all my apps, restored my Evolution backup, connected to U1 and back ready to work in just over 30 minutes... that's crazy
[15:03] <seeker> Giffgaff?
[15:03] <hamitron> be silly to phone me, I never answer
[15:03] <hamitron> ;)
[15:03] <popey> seeker: http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/popey
[15:03] <popey> :)
[15:05] <hamitron> tempted :/ http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9533
[15:08] <DJones> popey: Could have been a reused number, I've had that in the past
[15:09] <hamitron> phone the caller yourself and demand they stop in an abusive manner
[15:10] <hamitron> that normally stops it
[15:11] <hamitron> but popey is maybe too nice ;)
[15:13] <popey> :)
[15:16] <gord> popey, unlimited data for 15 a month? really unlimited?
[15:17] <diplo> heh my exact question to..! tempted as it runs on o2 network which i like
[15:18] <diplo> Is unlimited really unlimited?
[15:18] <diplo> The answer is yes, we are unlimited for personal mobile use - but not for commercial and automated use. Mobile Internet allowances exclude PC use and tethering.
[15:18] <gord> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumpordie/5375065392/ <-- made in inkscape, not a photo
[15:19] <popey> gord: apparently
[15:19] <hamitron> how can they know you are not using it for "pc use"?
[15:19] <gord> interesting, might make for a good sim for my netbook
[15:21] <diplo> gord, thats bloody amazing really
[15:22] <hamitron> "I took my sim out of my phone, popped it into this, and after I loaded up hyperterm it said "RING RING RING" and I missed a call from my girlfriend :( This thing is pretty cool though." hehe
[15:23] <hamitron> I reckon I may not transfer my number thinking about it
[15:23] <hamitron> ideal for just playing with
[15:27] <Myrtti> that does look good, I wonder if it would be a better deal than the 3 prepaid that I occasionally use in UK
[15:28] <popey> gord: not allowed
[15:29] <popey> gord: explicitly not allowed to use it in a pc / dongle or for tethering
[15:30] <gord> i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to tell the difference ;) hell my netbook runs android! but i don't want to be an arse about it, i'm sure they have realistic (too much data usage) reasons for it
[15:31] <hamitron> what about using this? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9342
[15:31] <hamitron> technically attached to a pc, but I wouldn't be using it for data
[15:42]  * bigcalm takes a break from the addition
[15:42] <bigcalm> addiction
[15:55] <eax> Hi there - How can I change the login-screen of Ubuntu 10.10? There is no way to change it through the Login-screen from System->Administration->Login Screen
[15:57] <Azelphur> eax: it uses a gnome theme and a wallpaper
[15:57] <Azelphur> fail
[15:57] <Azelphur> eax: it uses a gnome theme and a wallpaper
[15:57] <eax> Okay, so how can I change it?
[15:58] <Azelphur> some funky command, I'll try and ifnd it
[15:58] <Azelphur> eax: gksu -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[15:59] <eax> Okay thanks :)
[15:59] <eax> Hmm, nothing happens when I run it :S
[16:00] <eax> It askses for a password and then immediatly shuts down
[16:01] <Azelphur> :S
[16:01] <eax> Yeah :/
[16:01]  * Azelphur looks some more
[16:02] <andylockran> argh, this is fun
[16:02] <eax> Thanks :)
[16:03] <andylockran> writing an asterisk function that upon receipt of an email calls all the people required for the conference.
[16:04] <ali1234> how are you going to prevent it from getting massively spammed?
[16:05] <Azelphur> eax: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9748001&postcount=2
[16:05] <andylockran> ali1234: the email must contain a secret :p
[16:05] <eax> Thanks!
[16:08] <seeker> Like "andylockran wears womens underwear"
[16:18] <andylockran> brilliant.. now my conference calls are going off left, right and centre
[16:19] <andylockran> shorten 'to take advantage of' to one word.. exploit
[16:26] <Azelphur> giffgaff activated :D
[16:28] <hamitron> I shall take my time to do that, just like I do with everything else ;)
[16:28] <Azelphur> hehe
[16:29] <hamitron> annoyingly, I am 1 sata cable short :/
[16:29] <Azelphur> speedtest.net results are good :D
[16:29] <Azelphur> 4.3mbps down, 1.6mbps up
[16:30] <hamitron> 3G?
[16:30] <Azelphur> hsdpa
[16:30] <hamitron> what speed is 2G?
[16:30] <hamitron> ;/
[16:30] <diplo> heh better than my internet connection here at work
[16:30] <diplo> :D
[16:30] <Azelphur> not sure
[16:30] <hamitron> just wondered a typical speed
[16:31] <hamitron> my phone only has 3.6Mb memory... but still good to know
[16:31] <hamitron> ;)
[16:33] <Azelphur> hamitron: 16GB Class 6 MicroSD, 1.5GB Built in :P
[16:33] <hamitron> :)
[16:33] <hamitron> I maybe have 1Gb MMC somewhere...
[16:33] <hamitron> will look
[16:33] <hamitron> not now though
[16:36] <Azelphur> hamitron: owait, 512MB RAM, 1.5GB Storage, 16GB Class 6 MicroSD :P
[16:37] <hamitron> are you lacking something in your pants? bragging about a phone ffs ;)
[16:37] <Azelphur> :D
[16:37] <hamitron> but yeh, it is nice
[16:37] <hamitron> :/
[16:37] <Azelphur> I can play playstation games on it too
[16:38] <hamitron> that is nice
[16:39] <Azelphur> hamitron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_Nur_3JJw&feature=feedu
[16:39] <Azelphur> music on the video is aptly named, "Android Porn" :P
[16:42] <hamitron> Azelphur: I am not 128k internet atm ;/
[16:42] <hamitron> on*
[16:42] <hamitron> struggling to load pictures, nvm vids
[16:42] <Azelphur> :(
[16:43] <Azelphur> ah, not having VOIP blocked on my phone is awesome
[16:43] <hamitron> it isn't on giffgaff?
[16:45] <Azelphur> indeed
[16:45] <hamitron> nice
[16:45] <hamitron> I am tempted with this kit: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/479
[16:46] <hamitron> then maybe an arduino
[16:47] <hamitron> starting to cost as much as a phone though
[16:47] <seeker> Can Azelphur run an arduino without blowing it up yet?
[16:47] <hamitron> haha
[16:47] <Azelphur> nope
[16:47] <Azelphur> :(
[16:47] <hamitron> oh yeh, I better not encourage him
[16:47] <hamitron> ;)
[16:47] <seeker> Fail :P
[16:48] <hamitron> tbh, I never used one ;/
[16:48] <hamitron> I've used some PIC devices
[16:49] <hamitron> but nothing with a USB interface
[16:49] <hamitron> so i may do the same :))
[16:52] <HazRPG> question, can you get pidgin 2.7.9 for ubuntu 9.10 at all?
[16:53] <HazRPG> cos someone can't physically update to 10.10 or 10.04 due to driver support for his video card being dropped
[16:55] <hamitron> if it isn't that newer version, have you looked on launchpad, or pidgin.im?
[16:56] <HazRPG> the newest on pidgin.im 2.7.9, but only works on 10.04/10
[16:56] <andylockran> anyone got tips on how to use wolframalpha?
[16:57] <X3N> andylockran: with low expectations?
[16:57] <HazRPG> as far as I can see 2.6.6 is the last version for 9.10
[16:58] <HazRPG> but I was just wondering if there was a way to get it to work on 9.10
[17:01] <HazRPG> think there's a way of getting a "matrox p750" graphics card to work on ubuntu 10.10
[17:06] <hamitron> HazRPG: 32 bit?
[17:09] <HazRPG> I think so yeah
[17:09] <hamitron> the advice I've been given is to buy another graphics card
[17:09] <hamitron> ;)
[17:10] <HazRPG> heh, yeah that's what I said ^^,
[17:10] <hamitron> shame on you
[17:10] <hamitron> I've never give out that advice
[17:10] <hamitron> ;/
[17:11] <hamitron> I'd*
[17:11] <hamitron> my English sucks today
[17:11] <HazRPG> considering that support has been quit for that card years ago...
[17:11] <hamitron> so?
[17:12] <hamitron> if linux left support in for older hardware, it would grab more users ;)
[17:12] <HazRPG> ah, see that's were the problem lies
[17:12] <HazRPG> the drivers for that card are binary drivers
[17:12] <HazRPG> and are proprietary
[17:13] <HazRPG> so unless someone codes for it, its not gonna exist any longer
[17:13] <hamitron> guess it depends why the drivers won't work then
[17:13] <hamitron> nvidia 71 drivers don't work with newer versions of X.org, because of changes to how things are done
[17:14] <HazRPG> support was taken out from the latest (10.04/10) xorg apparently
[17:14] <HazRPG> shocker ;p
[17:14] <hamitron> support for most of mine stopped in 8.04
[17:14] <hamitron> :/
[17:14] <hamitron> well, 8.10
[17:15] <hamitron> I can use 8.04
[17:15] <hamitron> :)
[17:15] <HazRPG> if you think about it, such hardware support has stopped for windows too though... so you can't really blame linux
[17:15] <HazRPG> or its coders
[17:15] <hamitron> I blame the throw away culture
[17:16] <HazRPG> if a company no longer want to make drivers for it - or doesn't want to update, then its not going to happen unless many people want it back
[17:16] <HazRPG> hamitron: agreed :/
[17:16] <hamitron> I don't hold anyone responsible
[17:16] <hamitron> :)
[17:17] <hamitron> although, nvidia could make life easier, by providing tech docs for they unsupported cards
[17:17] <HazRPG> agreed!
[17:17] <hamitron> to be fair to them, they still patch the old drivers to work with newer kernels
[17:17] <HazRPG> if all companies did that... we'd be laughing!
[17:18] <hamitron> but ofc, they can't re-write huge parts of an old driver, just because X.org changed how it does things
[17:18] <hamitron> well, they can, but can't be expected to :)
[17:25] <HazRPG> ofc
[17:33] <hamitron> !gcc
[17:33] <hamitron> !version
[17:35] <hamitron> HazRPG:
[17:35] <hamitron> if you could use an older kernel, it may work
[17:35] <hamitron> ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2009/1.4.7/readme.txt see section 2
[18:17]  * MartijnVdS needs to stop buying bad 80s records
[18:19]  * hamitron smacks MartijnVdS over the head with the Adam Ant record that was just delivered
[18:20] <mgdm> MartijnVdS: Agadoo?
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: Wham :(
[18:22] <mgdm> /o\
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: something to fill up the 1-for-€1-3-for-€2,50 set of 3
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> I saw 3 12" singles of "Never gonna give you up" as well
[18:23] <mgdm> :|
[18:23] <MartijnVdS> I'm considering buying one to troll people
[18:23] <MartijnVdS> they were near-mint
[18:24] <hamitron> bbl, grub time \o/
[18:26] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: You missed out on a treat you could rickroll people via jpeg
[18:26] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: I prefer the "birthday present" route
[18:26] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: I got Joshua Tree to compensate
[18:26] <MartijnVdS> and Equinoxe
[18:27] <mgdm> I don't know Equinoxe
[18:27] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: Yeah but then there is the opportunity to get rickrolled back by on your birthday
[18:27] <mgdm> Rickroll ping pong?
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: what if it's a guilty pleasure? :)
[18:29] <popey> MartijnVdS: JMJ?
[18:29] <daubers> Evening
[18:30] <popey> Equinoxe Pt 5
[18:30] <popey> love it
[18:30]  * popey adds it to spotify
[18:30] <X3N> have a good w/e all
[18:30] <popey> o/
[18:33] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: then you need to get a life for a start ;)  Nothing wrong with the ging of soul
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> popey: Jarre, yes :)
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: 8-)
[18:35] <davmor2> popey: you see the china tour iirc
[18:36] <popey> hmm?
[18:37] <popey> I saw JMJ at London Docklands - Revolution
[18:37] <popey> in ~1989 ish
[18:37] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_(Jean_Michel_Jarre_album)
[18:37] <popey> close
[18:37] <popey> 1988
[18:41] <MartijnVdS> cool
[18:42] <popey> more "wet" than "cool" :)
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> I love the art on Equinoxe and Oxygene
[18:43] <popey> yeah
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> still looking for Rendez-Vous.. that one wasn't released in the Netherlands it seems :/
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> discogs marketplace to the rescue ;)
[18:44] <popey> uhoh uh oh...
[18:44] <popey> you got me thinking of Zoolook
[18:44] <popey> which had music in an Amiga game...
[18:44] <popey> the name escapes me
[18:44] <popey> captain blood!
[18:44] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Blood_(video_game)
[18:45] <MartijnVdS> popey: you were one of those people running around "I have an Amiga", not knowing what "Amiga" means in Spanish? :P
[18:46] <popey> I never had an Amiga
[18:46] <popey> we were too poor
[18:46]  * MartijnVdS was too young.. and my dad worked in IT, so we got a PC-XT-clone
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> in the mid-80s
[18:46] <popey> Infogrames were awesome
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> No sound for u!
[18:46] <popey> they made some real special games
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> I've played some Infogrames games.. they are/were a French company
[18:47] <popey> Sapiens was a bit special
[18:47] <popey> oh no that was Loriciels
[18:47] <popey> also french
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> the original Alone in the Dark series
[18:48] <popey> yeah!
[18:48] <popey> they were great
[18:48] <MartijnVdS> Loriciel had weird games
[18:48] <popey> i used to watch the titles over and over
[18:48] <popey> there was one with a particle acclerator accident or something?
[18:48] <popey> that transported him away to a pool on a remote planet
[18:48] <ali1234> another world
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> I never understood the story behind AitD.. just that it was HARD
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> one wrong move - dead
[18:49] <ali1234> another world is probably the hardest game ever
[18:49] <popey> thats it!
[18:49] <ali1234> flashback is a better game and slightly less punishing
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: I prefer the Half Life series for my particle accelerator accidents :P
[18:50] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA2Gb3nnjYY
[18:50] <ali1234> even today i cannot get past the first 3 screen of another world, even with a walkthrough and videos showing exactly what to do
[18:50] <popey> heh
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> I played Little Big Planet (another French product :)) a lot
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> no wait
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> Adventure :)
[18:51] <directhex> flashback is evil
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> Planet is the PS3 game :)
[18:51] <directhex> MartijnVdS, my cousin made that
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Adventure
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> directhex: all of it?
[18:51] <directhex> MartijnVdS, well, his company made it
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> directhex: Adeline / Delphine
[18:52] <directhex> directhex, adeline
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> That logo.. in high-res 640x480x8bit
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> memories! :)
[18:52] <directhex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9rick_Raynal
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> so it runs in the family then? :)
[18:58] <directhex> well, family by marriage. but still!
[19:13] <andylockran> gah, I forget the words sometimes.
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> andylockran: "expelliarmus"
[19:14] <Azelphur> popey: rofl
[19:14] <Azelphur> how much ram and what type did you order?
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> "a lot" apparently
[19:19] <Azelphur> indeed
[19:19] <Azelphur> I see 8 packs of 2 chips
[19:19] <Azelphur> each pack is 2x2, so 32GB total
[19:19] <Azelphur> wonder what type
[19:19] <MartijnVdS> I guess he wnated 8x1
[19:20] <Azelphur> o.O
[19:20] <MartijnVdS> 8x1 chip instead of 8x2
[19:20] <MartijnVdS> easy mistake to make :)
[19:21] <MartijnVdS> I've ordered SO-DIMM instead of "regular" DIMM once :\
[19:22] <Azelphur> hehe
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: not that useful when you're building a new PC :)
[19:24] <Azelphur> indeed
[19:24] <Azelphur> 229MB/sec average read on my SSD with disk utility :)
[19:24] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: there are RAM manufacturers which will tell you what you need to get based on the motherboard type.
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: what kind of ssd?
[19:24] <Azelphur> corsair F40GB2
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I knew what kind I needed.. some sort of DDR3 of some speed
[19:25] <dwatkins> ah ok, MartijnVdS
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: but there's this price comparision site in .nl.. and you can select all kinds of details
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: but I overlooked the "dimm/so-dimm" toggle  :)
[19:25] <dwatkins> interesting, MartijnVdS - I'd like to know more
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: tweakers.net/pricewatch
[19:25] <dwatkins> thanks
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> Lots of online computer (parts) stores register their prices with that site
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> and there are store reviews, part reviews etc.
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> price history graphs
[19:28] <MartijnVdS> It's more specialized than the "ciao"s of this world :)
[19:29] <gord> fyi, i loved little big planet 2 as a kid too :)
[19:29] <gord> 34
[19:29] <gord> er
[19:29] <gord> adventure
[19:29] <MartijnVdS> gord: *adventure
[19:29] <gord> geeeeeez
[19:29] <MartijnVdS> gord: if you liked lbp2 as a kid, you'd still be a kid :P
[19:30] <gord> MartijnVdS, some might argue that is the case
[19:30] <MartijnVdS> oh and coolness:
[19:30] <MartijnVdS> http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/3868787056/in/set-72157619633943669/
[19:31] <MartijnVdS> ^ she's releasing a new EP on Monday.. music downloadable here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road :)
[19:32] <MartijnVdS> I love it when artists I've photographed release new music :)
[19:42] <ali1234> i wish it wasn't so easy to accidentally forkbomb yourself on ubuntu
[19:42] <ali1234> it only seems to take about 500 forks to completely cripple this machine
[19:43] <Azelphur> lol
[19:44] <ali1234> is that american keyboard layout bug from the other day fixed yet?
[19:45] <ali1234> might as well install updates and reboot before i open all my windows again
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> I think the bug is still there-ish
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> I got asked a question about it twice today
[19:57] <MartijnVdS>  /q issyl0
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> doh
[20:06] <jonsaint> hi all
[20:06] <MartijnVdS> \o
[20:08] <andylockran> howdy all
[20:08] <andylockran> what a day
[20:08] <jonsaint> can someone help plz with regards to cd/dvd copying
[20:09] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: what's the problem you're having?
[20:10] <jonsaint> i had ubuntu before but for the life of me i cant remember how to do this... what im trying to do is this: ive got a film off the net and i want to put it on to dvd but i cant remember what software i used to convert it and burn it.
[20:12] <jonsaint> anyone???
[20:14] <jonsaint> anyone help plz?
[20:14] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: try the standard "CD/DVD burning" app from the Applications menu?
[20:14] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: it has a DVD Video option
[20:15] <jonsaint> i dont think its that. i cant remember what i used, the actual name of te software i used to convert it and burn it lol
[20:16] <MartijnVdS> devede? dvdauthor?
[20:18] <DJones> jonsaint: gnomebaker/k3b?
[20:19] <jonsaint> no dont think its that
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> tovid?
[20:19] <jonsaint> k3b!!!! cheers djones! thats the one!
[20:34] <MartijnVdS> so.. two weeks until FOSDEM, who's going? :)
[20:49]  * MartijnVdS might go either Sat or Sun
[20:53] <AlanBell> evening all
[20:53]  * AlanBell is on a boat
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> hi alanbell
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU
[20:53] <AlanBell> internet@sea hotspot
[20:54] <AlanBell> youtube is blocked
[20:54] <AlanBell> bit laggy satellite connection
[20:54] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_on_a_Boat
[20:54] <AlanBell> ah, the song
[20:54] <AlanBell> thought it might be
[20:54] <jonsaint> hi all (again) im trying to put a film onto dvd but if i remember correctly, i had to convert it forst then copy it to dvd but i dont know what software it was in the software centre i used! i remember something about k3b but i dont think it was just that to convert and burn. anyone got ideas??
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: doesn't k3b convert to mpeg2 by itself?
[20:55] <jonsaint> i dont know. its been a while since i used it. i dont even remember what folder the film goes into lol
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: you could try.. it should warn if you're doing something impossible (i.e. burning mpeg-4 to a DVD-Video)
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> I know that brasero converts automatically
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> (that's the default DVD/CD burning tool)
[20:56] <DJones> jonsaint: Was the converter called "devede" to convert a video file to an iso which you can burn to dvd with k3b?
[20:57] <jonsaint> thats the one! yet again djones you thought of the one i was after lol
[20:57]  * MartijnVdS gives up :P
[20:58] <jonsaint> i dunno what i would do without you folks here!
[20:58]  * DJones has hooks in jonsaint's brain feeding me information, although MartijnVdS did mention that 20 minutes ago
[20:58] <jonsaint> martijnvds i also want to thank you for looking also. :-)
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[21:00] <jonsaint> give me credit guys, i am new to ubuntu. ive come to the dark side because im really sick of all that microsoft bull **it all the time. at least ubuntu is more easier to use.......ITS FREE!!....and theres always good people in here willing to help. no one could ask for more than that!
[21:01] <AlanBell> wow, this is this ferry's first day of service
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: nice knowing you ;)
[21:02] <AlanBell> biggest and most powerfulferry in the channel apparently
[21:02] <jonsaint> hey alan, you on that new p&o cross channel ferry??
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> apparently 8-)
[21:02] <AlanBell> jonsaint: yes, the Spirit of Britain
[21:03] <jonsaint> whats she like?? from what i heard she can carry over 2,000 people
[21:03] <AlanBell> yeah, but not that many in cluc class :)
[21:03] <AlanBell> club
[21:03] <AlanBell> cluck class would be for the chickens
[21:03] <jonsaint> still, a very nice looking vessel.
[21:04] <AlanBell> very clean and shiny, smells of new carpets
[21:04] <jonsaint> give it 6 months and it will smell and run like the rest of the fleet lol
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> aka "of sea sick"
[21:05] <AlanBell> well I hope not to make a personal contribution to that
[21:06] <jonsaint> the sea should be fairly calm tonight
[21:07] <sprite> a belated xmas gift for the crew (nsfw) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6479260/PlayboyCal2011.pdf
[21:07] <MartijnVdS> !family
[21:07] <MartijnVdS> !ohmy
[21:08] <ali1234> looks like copyright infringement too, you got a twofer
[21:09] <jonsaint> im outta here folks. hope you all have a great evening......and alan, i hope the sailing goes well for you.
[21:09] <AlanBell> just leaving the dock now
[21:09] <sprite> not copyright. copyright only extends to 2010 ;P
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> copyrights tend to be valid for long times
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> like 70-90 years after the author dies or something
[21:16] <dogmatic69> anyone seen a red triangle with a ! in the top bar?
[21:17] <dogmatic69> hover says 'update info is old, bad connection blaa blaa
[21:27] <daubers> sigh, still some unresolved packages
[22:29]  * popey plays minecraft
[22:30]  * AlanBell arrives in the UK
[22:30] <popey> ola
[22:34] <directhex> looks like there are six of my own blu-ray discs that i can't rip to watch in linux, unless i buy commercial windows tools
[22:34] <Darael> directhex: Ow.
[22:39] <terran> directhex: what do you mean? Can't you just watch them? Why do you have to rip them?
[22:40] <directhex> terran, same difference, ultimately. ripping tools and the rather early-days libaacs rely on the same method
[22:41] <terran> So there's no blu-ray support in Ubuntu, even?
[22:55] <directhex> terran, technically there's as much support as for dvd, i.e. "it's fine if the disc is not copy-protected. good luck with that"
[22:56]  * czajkowski does the going to Canada dance 
[22:56] <czajkowski> :D
[22:57] <terran> jeez
[22:57] <terran> is there anywhere you don't go
[22:59] <czajkowski> um....
[22:59] <czajkowski> places that are cold
[22:59] <czajkowski> :)
[23:00] <czajkowski> terran: 2 weeks to fosdem :D
[23:00] <terran> yup yup yup!
[23:00] <terran> gonna be fun
[23:00] <terran> this time I ain't a poor student living in my overdraft :D
[23:00] <jpds> czajkowski: Where in Canada?
[23:01] <czajkowski> jpds: Guelp heading over to meet 2 mates
[23:02] <jpds> Groovy.
[23:03] <czajkowski> yup
[23:03] <czajkowski> so much fun
[23:03] <czajkowski> went over there over a year ago for my 30th
[23:03] <czajkowski> 2 weeks of fun
[23:04] <directhex> train tix and accommodation for fosdem are booked on the company credit card ^_^
[23:04] <terran> old czajkowski is old :p
[23:04] <czajkowski> yup
[23:04] <czajkowski> :D
[23:04] <czajkowski> terran: sod off you little git I am not that old!
[23:05] <terran> I know babe I know
[23:25]  * hamitron sighs
[23:45] <directhex> er... the largest blu-ray in my collection afaik, at 40GB of data, is a movie from 1978 with mono sound...
[23:48] <popey> Rollercoaster?
[23:48] <Azelphur> what's the deal with oovoo?
[23:49] <Azelphur> I hear it uses XMPP and some form of openness for the protocol level
[23:49] <Azelphur> but is the client open?
[23:49] <popey> http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current.png :)
[23:50] <Azelphur> :D
[23:50] <dwatkins> Have you been playing minecraft, popey? ;)
[23:50] <Azelphur> popey: btw did you get 500 points on giffgaff
[23:50] <Azelphur> I signed up so you should get some stuff
[23:50] <czajkowski> popey: http://twitpic.com/3s3ww5 :D
[23:50] <popey> dunno
[23:51] <popey> haha
[23:51] <popey> breakfast?
[23:51] <Azelphur> popey: also what memory is it you have in surplas? :P
[23:51] <czajkowski> popey: oh it will be tomorrow :D
[23:51] <popey> one mo, I will get the link
[23:51] <czajkowski> cannot wait
[23:52] <popey> Azelphur: i have 4 off packs of 2x2GB, so in total 16GB
[23:53] <Azelphur> speed/type?
[23:53] <dwatkins> popey: I'm curious, what was the landscape picture from?
[23:53] <popey> DDR3 1333MHz
[23:53] <popey> dwatkins: minecraft
[23:53] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:53] <dwatkins> oh right, I didn't know it did that, popey :)
[23:53] <Azelphur> little too slow for me, I'm on 1600
[23:53] <popey> its for a server
[23:53] <popey> which doesnt need to be fast
[23:53] <Azelphur> :)
[23:54] <popey> dwatkins: its a program called mcmap which generates those maps based on the game world
[23:54] <ali1234> Azelphur: you have a fast graphics card right?
[23:54] <dwatkins> neat, popey - I'm almost tempted to give it a try ... not sure I can spare my weekend, though
[23:55] <Azelphur> ali1234: gtx 570
[23:55] <popey> dwatkins: http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/ I have it run every 10 mins to take a snapshot
[23:55] <ali1234> is that fast?
[23:55] <Azelphur> ali1234: I'd say so, I believe it's the second fastest graphics card you can get
[23:55] <ali1234> can you try running something and tell me how long it takes?
[23:56] <czajkowski> http://www.odfplugfest.co.uk/  <---- one of the projects I'm organisng at  shall mail Ubuntu uk about it
[23:56] <ali1234> you will need to install pyopencl
[23:56] <popey> Azelphur: today
[23:56] <Azelphur> ali1234: sure
[23:56] <Azelphur> popey: huh?
[23:56] <popey> 23:55:37 < Azelphur> ali1234: I'd say so, I believe it's the second fastest graphics card you can get
[23:56] <Azelphur> oh yea, today
[23:56] <Azelphur> :)
[23:57] <ali1234> on my computer it takes about 1 minute and is not much faster than the CPU
[23:57] <Azelphur> I know I'll be violated by it later.
[23:57] <ali1234> i'm just wondering if it's bad coding or just cos my card sucks
[23:57] <ali1234> anyway here it is: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/cltest.tar
[23:58] <ali1234> wait
[23:58] <ali1234> that's wrong one :(
[23:59] <ali1234> fixed
[23:59] <Azelphur> :P