[09:18] <Quintasan> yawn
[09:18] <Quintasan> good morning
[09:51] <debfx> good morning Quintasan
[09:52] <debfx> yofel: no, could you push the fix to bzr and the ninjas ppa?
[10:26] <Trouble`> Congralutations Quintasan!! ...now where is 4.6.0 for Maverick ;-p
[10:27] <Trouble`> :D
[10:27] <Quintasan> uploading to ppas :P
[10:28] <Trouble`> Someone give Quintasan a promotion!
[10:28]  * Trouble` eyes up Riddell's job for Quintasan
[10:28] <Quintasan> LOL WUT
[10:28] <Trouble`> lol
[11:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i found a reliable way to trigger that full screen issue in rekonq
[11:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: Mind if  do kdenetwork?
[12:30] <Riddell> ¬
[12:30] <shadeslayer> hey :D
[12:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: emacs question, when i do M-x replace-string oldstring RET newstring RET it only replaces the word in the current line
[12:47] <shadeslayer> any ideas on how to do it for the whole document?
[12:47] <shadeslayer> or does it only consider the buffer after my cursor
[12:48] <shadeslayer> so i just go to the top and use that 
[12:49] <shadeslayer> hmm ... looks like the latter
[13:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you have any 10.04 CD's left?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> need to contact adawit too ...
[14:47] <markey> apachelogger: currently Phonon-VLC (0.3.1) got really crashy with Amarok. it used to work without any issues for months, and then something must have changed
[14:47] <markey> I have not updated it since 0.3.1 release
[14:47] <markey> now it crashes about 3 times a day, in the middle of playing...
[14:47] <markey> not sure what has changed, and what causes this...
[14:48]  * apachelogger blames amarok
[14:48] <apachelogger> markey: whats the backtrace?
[14:48] <markey> apachelogger: I don't think it's Amarok
[14:48] <apachelogger> honey
[14:48] <markey> KCrash: Application 'amarok' crashing...
[14:48] <markey> KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
[14:48] <markey> ...
[14:48] <apachelogger> take a look at the enginecontroller again
[14:48] <apachelogger> ...
[14:48] <markey> anyway, I have lots of debug output
[14:48] <markey> want?
[14:48] <markey> including Phonon debug
[14:48] <apachelogger> sure
[14:48] <apachelogger> but I think you will need to run amarok in gdb
[14:49] <markey> yep
[14:49] <markey> will do that
[14:49] <apachelogger> that sounds like an assert in some deep thing to me
[14:49] <apachelogger> if drkonqi does not get started you are usually in deep shit
[14:49] <markey> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/g47REnCB
[14:49] <markey> note: I'm not using PA, I have completly removed it
[14:49] <markey> this is pure ALSA
[14:49] <markey> but the crashing also happened with PA
[14:49] <apachelogger> [0x434fa60] main demux meta debug: using meta reader module "taglib"
[14:49] <apachelogger> oh
[14:50] <apachelogger> markey: possibly a taglib bug
[14:50] <apachelogger> or vlc
[14:50] <apachelogger> IIRC vlc's taglig plugin is the crapy or something
[14:50] <markey> apachelogger: weird
[14:50] <markey> I have not changed anything. it's Kubuntu 10.10 with latest upgrades...
[14:50] <markey> KDE 4.6 RC2
[14:50] <apachelogger> get a backtrace and talk to mr jim beam
[14:50] <markey> I will try, yes
[14:50] <markey> running in gdb now
[14:50] <apachelogger> well, maybe it is something in kdelibs that crashes
[14:50] <markey> maybe...
[14:50] <apachelogger> rc2 definitely has no changes to phonon though
[14:51] <markey> really hard to tell
[14:51] <markey> gdb will tell us more, I guess
[14:51] <markey> apachelogger: it really annoys me that Kubuntu uses libpulse, even without PA installed...
[14:51] <markey> IMHO that's just wrong
[14:51] <markey> I don't want to use libpulse
[14:52] <markey> Sput argued, I should use Gentoo, because then I can completely remove it...
[14:52] <markey> but that's not an option for me
[14:52] <apachelogger> there is nothing to use if no pulseademon is around, so it does not use libpulse
[14:52] <apachelogger> it just loads libpulse
[14:52] <markey> I love my Kubuntu
[14:52] <apachelogger> *daemon is not around
[14:52] <markey> apachelogger: but I still get the crashing on exit...
[14:52] <markey> from libpulse
[14:52] <Sput> markey: I just said that source-based distro give you the choice of features, that binary distros can't provide in principle :)
[14:52] <Sput> the alternative is rolling your own modified packages
[14:52] <markey> Amarok user Sentynel has patched his libpulse, it works now without crashing
[14:53] <markey> a one-liner patch
[14:53] <apachelogger> markey: you just need to call xinit or what the name was in your main
[14:53] <apachelogger> before doing anything
[14:53] <apachelogger> then you do not crash
[14:53] <apachelogger> ...
[14:53] <markey> apachelogger: in Amarok's main?
[14:53] <apachelogger> aye
[14:53] <markey> apachelogger: but then it needs to be special cased for Linux only
[14:54] <markey> and... what happens with Wayland?
[14:54] <markey> how can I make  it so that it's only called with X11 present?
[14:54] <apachelogger> #ifdef Q_WS_X11 or somehting like that
[14:54] <markey> cool, thanks
[14:54] <markey> will try that
[14:55] <markey> apachelogger: so, what is the full call that I need to add?
[14:55] <markey> the xinit() thing
[14:55] <markey> is that all?
[14:56] <markey> it sounds like a weird hack. does QtGui not do this automatically?
[14:56] <apachelogger> markey:    XInitThreads()
[14:57] <apachelogger> no, qtgui does not do this
[15:01] <markey> apachelogger: thanks :)
[15:10] <afiestas> agateau: ping
[16:55] <debfx> is bug #634707 SRU worthy?
[16:55] <debfx> (it's impossible to purge the kdm package on maverick)
[17:26] <Riddell> debfx: I would say yes
[17:26] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no 10.04 CDs are long since gone, 10.10 is where it's at now
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ohk
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you send a box over :P
[17:28] <shadeslayer> also ... i might just start a flamewar on the ubuntu-in mailing list with my mail :P
[17:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well I've been waiting for a week for pradeepto to give me an address in balgalore I can have them sent to
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ah :D
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mine is a different request ... these are going to another college tech fest
[17:33] <Riddell> e-mail infoshipit@ canonical.com
[17:33] <shadeslayer> will do ..... 
[17:34] <shadeslayer> oooh
[17:34]  * shadeslayer has a shiny theme chooser on his android device
[18:07] <debfx> Riddell: ok, also the regression potential is low
[18:08] <debfx> could you open the maverick task on the bug
[18:48] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: How about doing a KDE theme for Android? :D
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: that would ... amazing
[18:49] <shadeslayer> but ... sheytan is the right person
[18:49] <shadeslayer> ->artwork n00b
[18:49] <Quintasan> >implying sheytan knows how to put a metamorph together
[18:49] <Quintasan> don't we already have all the artwork we would need?
[18:50] <Quintasan> sheytan: ^^^
[18:50] <shadeslayer> i dont think so
[18:50] <shadeslayer> well icons yes, dunnot about the rest of the theme
[19:11] <ScottK> kdelibs in trunk needs a newer hupnp than we have in Natty.  I tried to do a test build of kde4libs 4.5.95 against the newer hupnp, but got what appears to be an unrelated build failure.  Can anyone else build kde4libs right now?
[19:11] <ScottK> (newer hupnp is in my PPA if someone wants to fiddle with it)
[19:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: was your planned rework of the k-d-i threading schema something along the lines of this? http://gitweb.kde.org/libqapt.git/commit/cfd7ed5b41fa9173f3e6c82499adcc8a157e56cd
[19:21] <JontheEchidna> k-d-i seems to be invoking the find method with a QMetaObject::invokeMethod call atm
[19:22] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: sponsorship for my merges is actuall?
[19:23] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: I still can't build them with a new pbuilder. Do you have a PPA log handy?
[19:23] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: I didn't send them to PPA. I can if you want. However, we should find the solution for your case.
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> I used this command to create the pbuilder:
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> sudo pbuilder create --distribution $(lsb_release -cs) \
[19:24] <JontheEchidna>         --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -cs) main restricted universe multiverse"
[19:32] <stalcup> congrats Quintasan \o/
[19:32] <Quintasan> stalcup: Thanks :)
[19:32] <Quintasan> How does one upgrade to maverick via kpackagekit?
[19:32] <yofel> oh right, congratulations Quintasan :)
[19:32] <Quintasan> :D
[19:33] <debfx> JontheEchidna: shouldn't you use --mirror instead of --othermirror?
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> debfx: dunno, I got the command off the ubuntu packaging guide, and I've not run into any problems with those sources not being available
[19:37] <debfx> maybe it doesn't make a difference but the main repository should be in --mirror
[19:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: trunk as in ... KDE trunk or KDE 4.6 tarballs?
[19:40] <shadeslayer> because iirc we have a outstanding packaging issue with neon and hupnp
[19:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: invokemethod on an object in a different thread is indirect
[19:42] <apachelogger> java java java
[19:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: enough of java :P
[19:43] <apachelogger> one cannot have enough java
[19:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: java makes you sane
[19:43] <shadeslayer> you do not want to become sane
[19:43] <shadeslayer> flipping kdebindings
[19:43] <apachelogger> lies
[19:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if you see kronos, tell him that akunambol needs to be done ASAP
[19:49] <apachelogger> ruphy threatens to kill me
[19:50]  * apachelogger would rather not die the hand of an italian
[19:50] <apachelogger> find the missing word!
[19:50] <apachelogger> 10 launchpad karma points to the winner
[20:04] <markey> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=129572435508899&w=2
[20:04] <markey> ^ why the Open File dialog in VLC takes one minute to open
[20:04] <markey> interesting read
[20:18] <sheytan> Quintasan, shadeslayer: I have never done an androi theme. Need a device to test :) 
[20:18] <sheytan> But i'm going to buy one in 2-3 months
[20:18] <shadeslayer> sheytan: sure .. you can test on mine and Quintasan's :P
[20:18] <shadeslayer> just send us the theme files
[20:18] <Quintasan> sheytan: :D
[20:18] <sheytan> thinking of wildefire HTC
[20:19] <shadeslayer> sheytan: nah .. get a Desire
[20:19] <shadeslayer> Wildfire is slow
[20:19] <sheytan> will take a look ;)
[20:19] <sheytan> Now need to spent money on my car
[20:20] <sheytan> need to pay insurance etc
[20:20] <sheytan> then a new car audio :D
[20:20] <sheytan> for nice heavy metal music :D
[20:20] <sheytan> then a new phone :D
[20:22] <neversfelde> don't buy a motorola milestone/droid ;)
[20:22] <sheytan> will not. Need HTC sense :D
[20:27] <shadeslayer> sheytan: and after you use Sense, you'll move to CM
[20:29] <neversfelde> what's CM?
[20:30] <sheytan> shadeslayer ^ ? ;d
[20:30] <shadeslayer> CyanogenMod
[20:30] <shadeslayer> its a pure AOSP build .... none of the HTC Shit ontop of it
[20:30] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: cyanogenmod.com
[20:42] <neversfelde> As of current time, CyanogenMod only supports the Verizon Motorola Droid NOT the GSM Motorola Milestone
[20:42] <neversfelde> mhh, why? I ever thought that there are not much differences
[20:42] <neversfelde> anyway my milestone was send back to my isp, broken again
[20:44] <Quintasan> neversfelde: u kidding me? I have CM on my milestone
[20:45] <neversfelde> Quintasan: this is from the official wiki
[20:45] <Quintasan> oh, kabaldan from XDA created a port of CM
[20:46] <Quintasan> it won't be 1.0 until moto releases 2.2.1 which should be apparently released in the upcoming few days since they already sent the instructions about the update
[20:47] <neversfelde> Quintasan: you like your milestone? 
[20:47] <Quintasan> Well, yeah
[20:47] <neversfelde> I send mine in two times now, not starting and I never used any mods or something
[20:47] <Quintasan> but now if I could get a HTC phone I would sold it right away
[20:48] <neversfelde> yeah
[20:48] <neversfelde> my bother has a HTC Desire, much better
[21:17] <apachelogger> apparently the n9 is around the corner
[21:17] <apachelogger> with meego
[21:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: there is no n9
[21:21] <neversfelde> I read about nokia having a deal with MS, I'm not sure abot meego. Android and iphone OS are leader in the market. Will be hard for Nokia
[21:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: not yet
[21:22] <Tm_T> neversfelde: it has never been easy
[21:23] <neversfelde> yes, but Nokia made a mistake with using symbian for such a long time
[21:25] <sheytan> will konversation quit when i hit the close button, or will it hide into message indicator like it does with systray icon?
[21:31] <neversfelde> Riddell: would you have a look at bug 706409
[22:12] <apachelogger> who is up for skping with the markey and yours truely?
[22:14] <neversfelde> no skype here
[22:15]  * shadeslayer is too tired to skype
[22:32] <apachelogger> neversfelde: install then?
[22:33] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I do not use it with kubuntu because I have no working mic and my mobile phone is gone
[22:34] <neversfelde> so no skype today :)
[22:34] <apachelogger> poor neversfelde :(
[22:34] <neversfelde> yes 
[22:36] <neversfelde> choqok's message indicator integration is very buggy. I think we should not activate it by default. Not sure if I mentioned it before.
[22:40] <apachelogger> you did
[22:40] <apachelogger> like 3 times
[22:41] <neversfelde> mhh
[22:41] <neversfelde> ok, to be sure. Message indicator support in choqok is broken, we should not activate it by default :D
[22:49] <Quintasan> good new
[22:49] <Quintasan> s
[22:49] <Quintasan> Neon is installable, now let me check if it's runnable :P
[22:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Trunk as in trunk.
[23:13] <Quintasan> apachelogger: this is alive
[23:13] <apachelogger> Quintasan: skype
[23:13] <apachelogger> right now
[23:15] <Quintasan> I haz no skypez
[23:15] <Quintasan> more like, I has no microphone
[23:17] <apachelogger> not even built in?
[23:18] <Quintasan> dunno, I can listen only
[23:19] <Quintasan> amarok dailies coming tomorrow
[23:19] <apachelogger> that would be silly
[23:19] <Quintasan> Y so?
[23:19] <apachelogger> what is the point of listening
[23:20] <Quintasan> I can hear your babbering? :D
[23:22] <Quintasan> apachelogger: what's ur skype id so I add u
[23:22]  * Quintasan will get a microphone
[23:27] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you must do the answer
[23:27] <Quintasan> apachelogger: u calling me? wut why does it work
[23:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: lol crashed
[23:29] <Quintasan> what a piece of crap
[23:29] <apachelogger> you broke it
[23:30] <Quintasan> or my phone is retarded
[23:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: are you working yet?
[23:33] <apachelogger> does the mic work yet?
[23:33] <apachelogger> does anything work yet?
[23:33] <apachelogger> it is all broken 
[23:33] <Quintasan> lol no microphone
[23:33] <Quintasan> I need to buy one
[23:33] <apachelogger> I demand mic
[23:34] <Quintasan> and I'm totally exhausted
[23:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: try calling now
[23:34] <apachelogger> Quintasan: does your phone not have a mic?
[23:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: >implying it doesnt crash on my phone
[23:36] <Quintasan> XD
[23:37] <apachelogger> Quintasan: mic?
[23:37] <Quintasan> apachelogger: oh god I don't own one, its 37 past midnight here, I will get one tomorrow
[23:38] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well you haz android phone
[23:38] <apachelogger> android phone haz skype
[23:38] <apachelogger> also it has mic
[23:38] <Quintasan> apachelogger: it crashes ^_^
[23:38] <Quintasan> blame moto
[23:39] <Quintasan> lol
[23:39] <Quintasan> my phone restarted
[23:39] <apachelogger> lolz
[23:39] <Quintasan> apachelogger: wtf did u do
[23:39] <apachelogger> android ftw
[23:39] <apachelogger> I love java
[23:39] <Quintasan> apacheloggerz broke my phone
[23:40] <Quintasan> oh, it finally downloaded
[23:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: be sure to ping me next time, I will have a mic by then
[23:41] <Quintasan> and hopefully PA will just work
[23:42] <apachelogger> fix yer phone
[23:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I can't, the bootloader's signed :S
[23:42] <Quintasan> and motorola can't makes normal kernels
[23:43] <Quintasan> good night
[23:43] <apachelogger> nini