[00:06] <BamBam> has somebody installed a persistent linux on a usb/flash-drive?
[00:07] <BamBam> I need some advice
[00:08] <mongy> BamBam, I cant seem to get natty to install to usb with persistence.
[00:08] <mongy> BamBam, any other I can..
[00:08] <genii-around> Bah. flash player segfaults.
[00:09] <genii-around> "error 4" and "error 6" , seems to vary
[00:10] <Pici> how informative
[00:10] <BamBam> no idea what u are talking about; anyway, I receive an error message, something about a Default UI and Configuration
[00:11] <mongy> BamBam, well I can create one, but it doesnt use the persistence part of it
[00:12] <BamBam> teoretically, when you use ubuntu to create a Boot Disk, it allows you to reserve some space to save personalisations, updates,etc
[00:13] <mongy> but not for this release, for me , yet
[00:14] <BamBam> ok, then
[00:14] <BamBam> is there any other distro which can do this?
[00:14] <BamBam> I want to run linux from my usb as if it were from my hard disk
[00:15] <mongy> yeah,  the stable version. 10.10
[00:16] <BamBam> well, I am using ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386
[00:18] <mongy> #ubuntu
[00:18] <mongy> and it does work, I have tried it a couple of times.
[00:21] <BamBam> when i reboot from the usb, i receive a linux error-message, saying something about a missing default UI or configuration
[00:23] <BUGabundo> hey
[00:23] <BUGabundo> good evening guys
[00:23] <BUGabundo> so what's cooking ?
[00:28] <yofel> oh cool, last console-setup update set my tty keyboard layout to us *again* *-.-
[00:31] <genii-around> yofel: Yes, I agree that's annoying
[01:22] <nheald_> My user name and ~$ Prompt are no longer displayed when I open Gnome Terminal, and the Terminal will not accept commands. Also when I try to open Root Terminal the Regular Terminal opens. Any help would be appreciated.
[01:44] <nheald_>  My user name and ~$ Prompt are no longer displayed when I open Gnome Terminal, only a blinking cursor is displayed, and the Terminal will not accept commands. Also when I try to open Root Terminal the Regular Terminal opens. Any help would be appreciated.
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[05:25] <spivwak> hi all, anyway to get amazonmp3 on 11.04?
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[11:38] <knittl> nautilus is erroring out with a dbus-error
[11:38] <knittl> known issue?
[11:41] <knittl> libunity0 can be removed?
[11:42] <knittl> The following packages will be REMOVED: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad libindicator1 libreoffice-help-en-gb libreoffice-l10n-en-gb libreoffice-l10n-en-za libunity0 libwebkit-1.0-2 libwebkit-1.0-common openoffice.org-help-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[11:42] <bazhang> !find libunity0
[11:42] <ubottu> Found: libunity0
[11:42] <bazhang> !info libunity0
[11:42] <ubottu> libunity0 (source: unity): binding to get places into the launcher - shared library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.46-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[11:42] <bazhang> sure
[11:42] <knittl> sure == can be removed?
[11:43] <knittl> slightly related: how can i update only a single package from the command line?
[11:44] <knittl> (including all dependencies of course)
[11:45] <bazhang> pinning?
[11:45] <knittl> install seems not like the perfect option, since it will mark it as manually installed
[11:47] <knittl> anyway, i will be upgrading nautilus now (which will remove libindcator1 (replaced by libindicator2) and libunity0)
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[12:44] <duanedesign> I have over 100 packages that are being held back from upgrading. Seems like a lot, anyone else experiencing anything similar?
[12:51] <wrst> duanedesign: how are you upgrading?
[13:00] <duanedesign> wrst: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade  Was curious if this was an issue unique to me or not
[13:01] <duanedesign> I usually run the updates everyday, but this time I went a week or so without running an update
[13:01] <wrst> duanedesign: could be some packages to be replaced such as openoffice with libre office, I generally do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' that will replace packages too, of course also greater chance of messing thingsup but isn't that what running alpha is all about :)
[13:02] <wrst> i do dist-upgrade when using alpha
[13:04] <wrst> dist-upgrade from my understanding pulls in updates and also will add changing dependencies i think that is correct from the man page on it, so you probably have some dependencies that have changed
[13:05] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[13:05] <ubottu> A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.
[13:05] <twager> wrst: dist-upgrade -d will tell you all the upgrades you need you can then choose which ones you want
[13:06] <wrst> twager: will that probably solve his issues of all the held back packages?
[13:07] <twager> wrst: Dunno...I look at the upgrades then just blunder on.. :-)
[13:08] <wrst> ha ha twager i must admit with alpha i expect to reinstall several times so i don't do much worrying
[13:08] <twager> I do know that apt-get upgrade seems to install packages that the upgrader tell me are held back
[13:10] <twager> I have never had to install Natty..If It fails I leave it for a couple of days then boot into a console and apt-upgrade it
[13:10] <twager> ...bbl..
[13:11] <wrst> i'm too impatient to wait that long :)
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[14:06] <jfi> Hello, is it normal that unity-2d (natty) use the default gtk theme? Did I miss to install a package?
[14:08] <jfi> Just wonder if it is a bug, a 'not yet implemented' or I miss a point when I installed it
[14:15]  * penguin42 seems to be stuck in an upgrade repeatedly asking me to choose a method for toggling between national and latin mode on keyboard
[14:16] <penguin42> hmm, finally moved on - I just had to tell it the same thing about 6 times
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> penguin42: I don't even know what that switching thing is about
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> it's just annoying :p
[14:18] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: I assume it's for flipping to non-uk/US keyboard varients
[14:19] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:29] <BUGabundo> o/
[14:34] <BluesKaj> kmix & alsamixer was missing from my setup this morning when I logged in , apt says it was installed but when I tried to launch it , "no such file etc" I had to remove it
[14:35] <BluesKaj> then reinstall, wonder what gives there
[14:36] <BUGabundo> so composite and libnotify still broken
[14:36] <BUGabundo> anyone got the bug reports for those?
[15:01] <BUGabundo> freeing up 1GiBs in old kernels :S
[15:12] <Ian_Corne> how many kernels are that? :p
[15:13] <BUGabundo> all since 2.6.35.x something
[15:13] <BUGabundo> now left with .37.10 and upwards
[15:14] <Ian_Corne> I'm still waiting for .38!
[15:14] <Ian_Corne> :p
[15:19] <ari-tczew> hey
[15:19] <ari-tczew> where can I find sun-java6 for natty?
[15:23] <tsimpson> ari-tczew: install the maverick version from the canonical partner repository
[15:23] <ari-tczew> tsimpson: OK, I'll do it. why natty has dropped it?
[15:24] <tsimpson> it hasn't been dropped, it just doesn't exist yet as natty isn't released
[16:11] <phillyj> hi all, can someone help me with qmake-qt4
[16:11] <phillyj> I'm installing openSCAD but the instructions don't give me parameters
[16:11] <phillyj> Just to make sure do I type qmake-qt4 -makefile {myfile}
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[16:29] <ari-tczew> tsimpson: it doesn't work with firefox4 :/
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[16:45] <nysosym> hi there
[16:46] <nysosym> how can i upgrade to natty?
[16:46] <nysosym> update-manager -c won't work
[16:46] <nysosym> +sudo
[16:46] <yofel> -d, not -c
[16:46] <nysosym> thx
[16:47] <BluesKaj> nysosym, good luck
[16:47] <nysosym> thx, but why? :)
[16:48] <penguin42> remember, it is an alpha - it could eat your cat
[16:48] <nysosym> thats ok
[16:48] <BluesKaj> nysosym, it should work ok, but there have been some probs with update manager
[16:48] <nysosym> ubuntu is just for testing :)
[16:49] <nysosym> to have a look what the open source community does :D
[16:49] <[lan3y]> how do i enable wireless on natty? its labeled as disabled by hardware switch, and yes the switch is on, i dont know what to do now
[16:50] <coz_> nysosym,  what are you used to if not "open source" ?
[16:50] <nysosym> osx
[16:50] <coz_> ah
[16:50] <BluesKaj> nysosym, I have 2 pcs running natty .. a few small probs , but overall quite stable
[16:50] <coz_> nysosym,  same here
[16:50] <[lan3y]> its worked before on natty, so its a recent change somewhere :/
[16:51] <nysosym> it's a shame, that i can't get ubuntu to work with my new macbook pro :/
[16:51] <nysosym> live cd shows me just an empty window
[16:52] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], gnome nm-applet ?
[16:52] <coz_> nysosym,   I cant help with that  .. I stopped using mac at 9.x
[16:52] <[lan3y]> Blueskaj, yeah thats whats saying its disabled
[16:53] <[lan3y]> i've run nm-tool in terminal and it says wlan0 iwl3945 state:unavailable
[16:53] <nysosym> as far as i can see, ubuntu comes closer to mac, design wise :D
[16:53] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], in the terminal run ifconfig , then pastebin the output pls
[16:54] <[lan3y]> could be tricky without a net connection on it though
[16:54] <[lan3y]> theres no wlan in ifconfig, if thats important?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> yup, that's important
[16:54] <[lan3y]> ok what do i need to do now?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> remove network manager and reinstall it , that worked for my USB wifi adapter ..however I had to use wicd after the latest upgrade , nm just would not connect
[16:58] <BluesKaj> nm reinstall might work for you [lan3y]
[16:58] <[lan3y]> how do i fetch the archive to install though?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], if you have network access with ethernet
[16:59] <[lan3y]> i have another machine (this one) and a usb drive, anywhere i can grab the deb file?
[17:01] <BluesKaj> you can download wicd to the usb drive and copy it
[17:03] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], if you decide o wicd , then there's no need to remove nm , wicd install disables gnome-nm
[17:04] <[lan3y]> ok
[17:04] <[lan3y]> ill grab both debs anyway
[17:05] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], try this first  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[17:08] <[lan3y]> doesn't support scanning, network is  down
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:10] <[lan3y]> ugh forgot network-manager-gnome
[17:15] <[lan3y]> so ive reinstalled now what?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> reboot
[17:20] <[lan3y]> ok
[17:27] <sda> hi all, i have a question, I love search\program graphic of ub11.04 and i want it on my normal gnome. How can I do? (this one http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/unity-2d-apps.png)
[17:29] <[lan3y]> BluesKaj, reinstalling + reboot = no change
[17:30] <[lan3y]> it says im in flight mode
[17:30] <[lan3y]> if that helps
[17:31] <kim0> Hi .. Any plans for VirtualBox-ose-4.x for natty
[17:33] <charlie-tca> !info virtualbox
[17:34] <ubottu> Package virtualbox does not exist in natty
[17:34] <charlie-tca> !info virtualbox-ose
[17:34] <ubottu> virtualbox-ose (source: virtualbox-ose): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.12-dfsg-1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 8986 kB, installed size 32560 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 all)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> [lan3y], ok install wicd
[17:45] <pr0ph3t> hi all
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[18:02] <[lan3y]> ok plan b, install 10.10 install wicd, then update to 11.04
[18:29] <kim0> charlie-tca: Hi, I do know vbox3 is in natty (running it), I'm mostly asking why we're not going for vbox4
[18:38] <penguin42> is anyone getting bogus values from the 'head flying hours' in smartctl -a ?
[18:39] <penguin42> mine is saying 241643450010053, which is about 27B years
[18:46] <Ian_Corne> RROR: smartctl requires a device name as the final command-line argument.
[18:46] <Ian_Corne> I have no idea what it does
[18:46] <Ian_Corne> but i can't run smartctl -a :p
[18:50] <penguin42> it checks the errors from a hard drive, so typically smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:58] <bullgard4> What Banshee release does Natty provide at present?
[19:59] <gpc> !info banshee
[19:59] <ubottu> banshee (source: banshee): Media Management and Playback application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.9.1-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 1782 kB, installed size 5396 kB
[19:59] <bullgard4> gpc: Thank you.
[19:59] <gpc> welcome
[20:42] <[lan3y]> solved my wifi problems, rfkill is set to block all wifi devices by default for some reason, any else had this?
[20:43] <yofel> nope, afaik it should map what is set in BIOS, or what you set yourself
[20:45] <donniezazen> Do you guys have problem getting wifi to work wwith broadcom cards?
[20:47] <[lan3y]> whats the problem?
[20:50] <donniezazen> I was able to install bcmwl-kernel-source without problem but network manager drop down menu does no longer have wireless options and the physical switch does not seem to enable the wifi card.
[20:51] <gpc> donniezazen: did you enable the driver in System > Admin > Hardware Drivers?
[20:51] <donniezazen> yes i did
[20:51] <gpc> Additional Drivers*
[20:52] <gpc> might need a reboot
[20:53] <donniezazen> nah i have tried all that
[20:54] <donniezazen> as far as i know wifi cards seems to be disabled
[20:56] <[lan3y]> in terminal run rfkill list
[20:56] <[lan3y]> 'rfkill list'
[21:01] <donniezazen> it says no
[21:16] <tasslehoff> I tried upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 in a Virtualbox VM on my Mac, but it led to kernel panics. Same issue for a friend who uses VMWare Fusion. Known issue and gone now?
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[21:25] <gobbe> hello. i'm testing 11.04 and unity and got one problem; i cannot change top clock to 24h
[21:25] <gobbe> all tricks did this in 10.10 are not working
[21:42] <charlie-tca> apparently, I really don't like unity
[21:46] <[lan3y]> me neither, hence, kubuntu
[21:55] <coz_> kubuntu's  netbook is kinda nice  to play with
[21:55] <coz_> Unity...as I have mentioned before ,, is pretty useles on dual monitors in my opinion...
[21:55] <coz_> actually any netbook edition is I suppose
[22:09] <[lan3y]> kde just feels a bit more complete compared to gnome/unity in my opinion
[22:09] <Daekdroom> I can't get used to KDE :(
[22:09] <Daekdroom> I'll continue to use Classic GNOME untill I feel either Unity or Gnome Shell are ready
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