[13:57] <UndiFineD> Pendulum: the spanish translation was ok ? or did it need modification ?
[13:58] <Pendulum> haven't heard anything from the guy
[13:59] <UndiFineD> alright, just curious :)
[14:23]  * AlanBell hugs Pendulum 
[14:24] <AlanBell> http://www.lathatatlan.hu can't take wheelchairs
[14:24] <Pendulum> I'm not surprised
[14:25] <Pendulum> so as long as the UW dinner isn't there, I'm okay :P
[14:27] <Pendulum> to safely take wheelchair users (regardless of whether there's physical access or not), they'd have to have a blind wheelchair user who could guide. And I don't know any completely blind wheelchair users. (I know some who are legally blind)
[14:28] <AlanBell> I asked if there was just physical access to the dinner part
[14:28] <Pendulum> tbh, I suspect that if I make it to UDS-O, I will pretty much only be able to get around the hotel
[14:29] <Pendulum> (without getting out of chair and scooting up or down stairs)
[14:29] <Pendulum> because that's my memory of Budapest: everything has stairs
[14:30] <Pendulum> Luckily, I went to Budapest when I was 16 so I will not feel sad that I cqan't get into things like the castle as I've already been to them :)
[14:41] <Pendulum> okay, it looks like I might be able to use the metro if there are people with me (has escalators, but I know how to ride an escalator in a wheelchair if I've got people to help)
[14:41] <Pendulum> there are a couple buslines I could use
[14:42] <Pendulum> can't get good information about restaurants
[14:42] <Pendulum> dunno how I can get from airport
[14:42] <Pendulum> this could be exciting ;-)
[14:44] <AlanBell> really not sure I can go at all, but I was thinking of flying out for the last two days or something
[14:46] <Pendulum> *nods*
[14:46] <Pendulum> I'm going to apply for sponsorship and see what happens :)
[14:47] <Pendulum> Someone other than TheMuso has to be around to raise the accessibility flag ;-)
[14:49] <AlanBell> yup
[14:57] <AlanBell> I don't think I will go for sponsorship as I can't give up the week
[14:58] <AlanBell> flights are only a hundred quid
[14:58] <Pendulum> *nods*
[15:00] <AlanBell> I was thinking of organising an evening out for 30 people as an -accessibility event
[15:00] <Pendulum> *nods*
[15:01] <AlanBell> maybe getting some computers set up in the dark with Unity and get the desktop team along
[15:03] <Pendulum> haha
[15:03] <Pendulum> need to get it working at all that way first
[15:04] <AlanBell> yeah
[15:04] <AlanBell> would give them something to work towards :)
[15:04] <Pendulum> although the desktop team is pretty aware of what's going on and the importance
[15:05] <Pendulum> neil's definitely on board with getting accessibility to the best it can be
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Using today's i386 Natty image, I can do an accessible installation using Orca. 
[17:23] <charlie-tca> However, unity no longer recognizes my ATI 9800 video card as usable, so I ran it from classis desktop
[17:24] <charlie-tca> Also, orca now speaks the password as clear letters and numbers
[17:26] <Pendulum> yay for being able to do the install
[17:26] <Pendulum> not so good on the rest of it
[17:26] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:26] <charlie-tca> progress, I guess
[17:27] <charlie-tca> heh, unity will be unusable by what, half the user base, if it won't recognize the 9800?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> Oh, well. At least orca spoke to me today through the entire installation dialogs
[17:42] <AlanBell> that is fantastic!
[17:43] <AlanBell> or a major regression corrected
[17:45] <charlie-tca> yes, kind of.
[17:46] <charlie-tca> It does not tell you it is done, so get to guess at that part
[17:47] <charlie-tca> But it did say "Return" when I hit the enter key to restart after the installation completed
[17:47] <AlanBell> how do you start the accessible install?
[17:47] <charlie-tca> hold right shift when it says it is starting from the cd
[17:48] <charlie-tca> or hold during bios checks
[17:48] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah, it fails when hitting any keys during the boot
[17:48] <charlie-tca> the splash screen seems to ignore the keypress it should see
[17:50] <charlie-tca> hm, and it booted into a gdm login without orca, but after logging in, it went to unity desktop with orca
[17:52] <charlie-tca> At least we are making progress. Now I can finish the install test case
[18:00] <AlanBell> yes, I will have a go at the install later this week I hope