[08:09] doctormo: any word from pleia2 on the logs for art-owl? [08:10] Said she would get to it tonight. [08:10] cool! [17:15] y [17:26] evilvish: We have logs! [17:37] coz_: I'm doing something evil to window management. hehe [17:38] darkmatter, sorry about that ...damn fingers [17:39] np. starting work on my first compiz plugin. *crossing fingers* [17:45] doctormo: yay! [17:45] evilvish: pm me [17:48] darkmatter, very cool :) [17:48] coz_: something simple but lacking. I think I'll call it stacker. the _basic_ functionality is in compiz already, but needs improving [17:48] darkmatter, well talk with smspillaz if you want.. I am sure he can help out with it... [17:49] darkmatter, just not at this moment ,, I think it is near 6am tomorrow for him :) [17:50] coz_: just an improvement to having focus but no raise on click. I want something a bit more functioning [17:50] ah ok [17:52] hi doctormo. do you have an idea how to do what subprocess.check_output() does in python before 2.7? [17:53] coz_: kinda like amiga had (if you've ever don teh amiga) [17:53] thorwil: Yes, I have ideas. What are you trying to do? [17:53] darkmatter, no I havent [17:54] darkmatter, you mean mouse over focus? [17:54] doctormo: wrap gconftool-2 --set and --get commands in python [17:54] coz_: moving windows by the titlebar didn't change focus/raise windows unless you _wanted_ it to [17:54] darkmatter, oh ok [17:55] thorwil: Why don't you just use the python based gconf lib? [17:55] doctormo: that is, i need the output o fthings like: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename [17:55] focus could be fixed regardless of action/position/etc. so you could cut/paste etc from active to inactive without having focus being stolen [17:55] doctormo: because i didn't think of that at all! thanks :} [17:56] *head-desk* [17:56] coz_: like I said. basic functionality is already there, just needs enhancing [17:56] darkmatter, that sounds nice actually [17:56] thorwil: So you know: gconf access is not available if you're running from a cron job or outside of the gnome session on a different tty [17:58] coz_: it is. it's one of the things I wish had carried over back in the day. that's one of the things that made multitasking so much fun. windows respected you :P [17:58] darkmatter, cool... I hope you do t his... submit it... I would like to try it :) [17:59] coz_: combine that with some of the more modern features and ♥ [17:59] damn fingers [18:00] darkmatter, ok I dont want to know ...right now...how to do the "heart" thingy,, i would have a new toy :) [18:02] hehe [18:03] coz_: hold down control+shift+u ;p [18:04] darkmatter, ooo darn...you told me lol [18:04] now I'm gonna sit back and watch you drive yourself mad playing with unicode combinations xD [18:05] :) [18:05] 2665 is the heart [18:06] darkmatter, I will have to play with this,, so just hold down shift-ctrl+u and hit the numbers? [18:08] well.. release the u after pressing (keep ctrl and shift down) it initiate the unicode. then type in the appropriate numerical identifier (charts on the unicode site) [18:08] will* [18:08] ♥ [18:08] ah :) [18:08] damn another toy :) [18:08] lol [18:09] coz_: do you use xchat? [18:10] evilvish, I do yes [18:10] coz_: you can just set that as an autoreplace [18:10] evilvish, oh cool :) [18:11] oh man.. I am going to be spending all day playing now [18:11] you can set a rule, when you type <3 , autoreplace with ♥ [18:11] evilvish, you and darkmatter are surely evil... :) [18:11] i have a for of those autoreplace like: ™ » [18:11] « [18:11] cool [18:11] s/for/few [18:12] coz_: also, if you really want to waste time.. you can get a lot of symbols in "character map" ;) [18:13] and see ,, I was content just typing since it has improved slight over the years...now look what you guys have dont ♥ [18:13] evilvish, cool...yeah that part I knew :) [18:13] now if only I could get paid waisting time :) [18:14] lol [18:14] * darkmatter makes coffee [18:16] guys... I have to break here... grocery store and all ..again at 14 degree farenheit weather and snow and ice :( [18:16] be back in a bit