[08:09] <evilvish> doctormo: any word from pleia2 on the logs for art-owl?
[08:10] <doctormo> Said she would get to it tonight.
[08:10] <evilvish> cool!
[17:15] <coz_> y
[17:26] <doctormo> evilvish: We have logs!
[17:37] <darkmatter> coz_: I'm doing something evil to window management. hehe
[17:38] <coz_> darkmatter,  sorry about that    ...damn fingers
[17:39] <darkmatter> np. starting work on my first compiz plugin. *crossing fingers*
[17:45] <evilvish> doctormo: yay!
[17:45] <doctormo> evilvish: pm me
[17:48] <coz_> darkmatter,  very cool :)
[17:48] <darkmatter> coz_: something simple but lacking. I think I'll call it stacker. the _basic_ functionality is in compiz already, but needs improving
[17:48] <coz_> darkmatter,   well  talk with smspillaz  if you want.. I am sure he can help out with it...
[17:49] <coz_> darkmatter,  just not at this moment  ,, I think it is near 6am tomorrow for him :)
[17:50] <darkmatter> coz_: just an improvement to having focus but no raise on click. I want something a bit more functioning
[17:50] <coz_> ah ok
[17:52] <thorwil> hi doctormo. do you have an idea how to do what subprocess.check_output() does in python before 2.7?
[17:53] <darkmatter> coz_: kinda like amiga had (if you've ever don teh amiga)
[17:53] <doctormo> thorwil: Yes, I have ideas. What are you trying to do?
[17:53] <coz_> darkmatter,  no I havent
[17:54] <coz_> darkmatter,  you mean mouse over  focus?
[17:54] <thorwil> doctormo: wrap gconftool-2 --set and --get commands in python
[17:54] <darkmatter> coz_: moving windows by the titlebar didn't change focus/raise windows unless you _wanted_ it to
[17:54] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh ok
[17:55] <doctormo> thorwil: Why don't you just use the python based gconf lib?
[17:55] <thorwil> doctormo: that is, i need the output o fthings like: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[17:55] <darkmatter> focus could be fixed regardless of action/position/etc. so you could cut/paste etc from active to inactive without having focus being stolen
[17:55] <thorwil> doctormo: because i didn't think of that at all! thanks :}
[17:56] <thorwil> *head-desk*
[17:56] <darkmatter> coz_: like I said. basic functionality is already there, just needs enhancing
[17:56] <coz_> darkmatter,  that sounds  nice actually
[17:56] <doctormo> thorwil: So you know: gconf access is not available if you're running from a cron job or outside of the gnome session on a different tty
[17:58] <darkmatter> coz_: it is. it's one of the things I wish had carried over back in the day. that's one of the things that made multitasking so much fun. windows respected you :P
[17:58] <coz_> darkmatter,  cool... I hope you do t his... submit it... I would like to try it :)
[17:59] <darkmatter> coz_: combine that with some of the more modern features and ♥
[17:59] <coz_> damn fingers
[18:00] <coz_> darkmatter,  ok  I dont want to know ...right now...how to do the "heart" thingy,, i would have a new toy :)
[18:02] <darkmatter> hehe
[18:03] <darkmatter> coz_: hold down control+shift+u <enter appropriate unicode love> ;p
[18:04] <coz_> darkmatter,   ooo darn...you told  me  lol
[18:04] <darkmatter> now I'm gonna sit back and watch you drive yourself mad playing with unicode combinations xD
[18:05] <coz_> :)
[18:05] <darkmatter> 2665 is the heart
[18:06] <coz_> darkmatter,   I will have to play with this,, so just hold down  shift-ctrl+u   and hit the numbers?
[18:08] <darkmatter> well.. release the u after pressing (keep ctrl and shift down) it initiate the unicode. then type in the appropriate numerical identifier (charts on the unicode site)
[18:08] <darkmatter> will*
[18:08] <coz_> ♥
[18:08] <coz_> ah :)
[18:08] <coz_> damn  another toy :)
[18:08] <darkmatter> lol
[18:09] <evilvish> coz_: do you use xchat?
[18:10] <coz_> evilvish,   I do yes
[18:10] <evilvish> coz_: you can just set that as an autoreplace
[18:10] <coz_> evilvish,  oh cool :)
[18:11] <coz_> oh man.. I am going to be spending all day playing now
[18:11] <evilvish> you can set a rule, when you type <3 , autoreplace with ♥
[18:11] <coz_> evilvish,    you and darkmatter   are  surely evil... :)
[18:11] <evilvish>  i have a for of those autoreplace like:   ™  »
[18:11] <evilvish> «
[18:11] <coz_> cool
[18:11] <evilvish> s/for/few
[18:12] <evilvish> coz_: also, if you really want to waste time.. you can get a lot of symbols in "character map" ;)
[18:13] <coz_> and see ,, I was content just typing since it has improved slight over the years...now  look what you guys have dont  ♥
[18:13] <coz_> evilvish,  cool...yeah that part I knew  :)
[18:13] <coz_> now if only I could get paid  waisting time :)
[18:14] <darkmatter> lol
[18:14]  * darkmatter makes coffee
[18:16] <coz_> guys... I have to break here... grocery store and all ..again  at 14 degree farenheit  weather and snow and ice  :(
[18:16] <coz_> be back in a bit