[00:05] <cprofitt> Red-Raven: what port checker?
[00:06] <Red-Raven> canyouseeme.com or something.
[00:06] <cprofitt> hmm....
[00:06] <cprofitt> so you are trying to open the port on your router?
[00:07] <Red-Raven> yes.
[00:07] <Red-Raven> a custom port # for SSH.
[00:07] <cprofitt> did you forward the port to something that would respond?
[00:07] <Red-Raven> you mean the IP of the computer with SSH on it?
[00:07] <Red-Raven> if so, yes.
[00:08] <Red-Raven> do i have to do something to start the server on that computer?
[00:08] <cprofitt> ok... is there are firewall on that computer?
[00:08] <Red-Raven> nope.
[00:08] <cprofitt> yes... I think you have to start SSH on that computer
[00:08] <Red-Raven> its ubuntu desktop, and i haven't added any security to that computer.
[00:09] <cprofitt> Ubuntu desktop does not open any ports by default
[00:09] <Red-Raven> yah. i went into my router settings and opened it.
[00:09] <cprofitt> http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2097
[00:09] <cprofitt> yes, its open on your router, but not on the computer you forwarded it too
[00:10] <Red-Raven> how do i do that?
[00:17] <LostPenguin> can anyone in here help me add a hardware ID to the kernel?
[00:22] <Red-Raven> do i need to edit IPtables to open the port>
[00:22] <Red-Raven> ?*
[00:34] <geirha> Red-Raven: That depends on whether you've changed iptables or not. With default iptables, everything is open already.
[00:36] <Red-Raven> ok. well i did run iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT
[00:38] <geirha> Does  ssh localhost  on the box you run the ssh server on, work?
[00:39] <LostPenguin> it should
[00:39] <Red-Raven> said authenticuty can't be established, but i told it yes, go ahead.
[00:40] <geirha> Ok, that means the ssh server is running and listening on port 22
[00:40] <Red-Raven> i gave it a different port #
[00:41] <geirha> I only read a little bit backwards when I popped in here just now, but from what I can gather you used a different port on the router, not on the server...?
[00:42] <geirha> And if that is the case, you set port 80 on the router go to port 22 on your server?
[00:42] <LostPenguin> if you set up port forwarding on your router that way
[00:43] <Red-Raven> um, i set the same port in the rueter as in the sshd config file.
[00:44] <geirha> Well, sshd is obviously running on port 22, at least currenty. Did you remember to restart it after editing the config file?
[00:45] <geirha> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[00:45] <Red-Raven> oh. ill do that.
[00:45] <geirha> After that,   ssh localhost   should fail, and   ssh -p 80 localhost   should work
[00:46] <duanedesign> hello al
[00:46] <duanedesign> or better yet, all
[00:46] <geirha> Hello, duanedesign :)
[00:46] <Red-Raven> sudo etc/init.d/ssh restart right?
[00:47] <Red-Raven> hello!
[00:47] <geirha> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[00:47] <geirha> missed the first / there
[00:47] <duanedesign> welcome back Red-Raven. Hopefully we can get the ssh sorted. Glad you came back
[00:47] <Red-Raven> yup. think im almost there.
[00:48] <Red-Raven> ssh -p 80 localhost didn't work. connection refused.
[00:49] <geirha> And ssh localhost is still working?
[00:49] <Red-Raven> no it failed.
[00:49] <geirha> Both failed? Hm.
[00:49] <Red-Raven> localhost failed. the other was refused.
[00:50] <geirha> What does this output?  sudo fuser 80/tcp 22/tcp
[00:52] <Red-Raven> 22/tcp: 2587 2656
[00:52] <geirha> Still listening on port 22. Hm.
[00:54] <geirha> Sure you changed Port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[00:54] <Red-Raven> yup. ill double check.
[00:54] <geirha> On a side-note though, why change it?
[00:55] <Red-Raven> i was told to for security.
[00:55] <geirha> Security by obscurity, but you've already used a different port on the router, that's the one exposed to the internet.
[00:56] <Red-Raven> how? i still use port 80. i naver changed that.
[00:57] <Red-Raven> all i need to change in that config file is the port # right?
[00:57] <geirha> What you use on your server, behind the router, is irrelevant. You'd only see port 80 from the outside.
[00:58] <geirha> Should be, though I've never actually changed the port of the ssh server :)
[00:59] <geirha> My Ubuntu box is connected straight on the net, no router or firewall in front of it, listening on port 22.
[01:00] <Red-Raven> hm. any ideas?
[01:02] <geirha> Well, if changing Port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config is not working, just change it back, then tell your router to route port 80 from the internet to port 22 on your server.
[01:03] <Red-Raven> wont that take service to other machines though?
[01:03] <geirha> Or even better, just use port 22 on both. I don't see any security gains of changing the port, it just makes it more cumbersome for you to connect to it.
[01:04] <geirha> service to other machines?
[01:04] <Red-Raven> if it directs all the trafic to the server, wont it stop traffic to other comps in ths house?
[01:06] <geirha> No. And you're only redirecting one port.
[01:06] <geirha> Or, well, is port 22 already forwarded to another computer?
[01:06] <Red-Raven> no.
[01:07] <geirha> Then there's no problem
[01:44] <Red-Raven> geirha, hey sry im back. so i need to change the port # back to 22 in the config file and then forward 22 in the rueter, and then do i need to do anything else?
[01:46] <Red-Raven> like change the iptables back again?
 It's alright, you only pinged someone else :)
 that should be funny.
[03:16] <MrAnthrope> <-- LOLed
[03:17] <Red-Raven> yah....sry about that.
[03:17] <MrAnthrope> np :)
[07:41] <charliemac> How can I get SLiM for lubuntu?
[07:55] <jermza> Does anyone know how to fix multiple instances of Gwibber appearing in the messaging indicator menu?
[08:20] <charliemac> Is it safe to run 32-bit programs on 64-bit #lubuntu ?
[09:00] <Minchkin> So, I was runngin IDJC and my laptop stopped responding. So I held down the power button to shut it off. When it rebooted, the GUI is no longer smooth. It is booting into Netbook edition and it won't let me switch back. Help
[09:07] <Minchkin> Hello?
[09:07] <charliemac> How can I put SLiM on #Lubuntu?
[09:08] <arief> hi all
[09:09] <Minchkin> Hi
[09:09] <arief> why this room is pretty quite ?
[09:10] <Minchkin> I don't know. And I need some major hep
[09:10] <arief> what is that ?
[09:11] <Minchkin> I was running IDJC and everything just kind of went, bleh.
[09:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, you can enter into recovery mode?
[09:12] <Minchkin> How?
[09:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> you have a boot menu(Loader) named GRUB right? When you start the laptop, this screen comes after BIOS menu
[09:13] <Minchkin> No. It just boots into Ubuntu
[09:13] <Minchkin> How do I get to it?
[09:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> you can login to the machine now right?
[09:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> I want you to edit a file
[09:14] <Minchkin> I am ON the machine.
[09:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> cool
[09:14] <Minchkin> Okay?
[09:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> now
[09:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> goto terminal
[09:15] <Minchkin> In. Type....
[09:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> sudo chmod  +w /etc/default/grub
[09:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> wait
[09:16] <Minchkin> waoh
[09:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, now open places->computer. select the file system -> etc->default->grub.d
[09:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> do not close terminal
[09:20] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, and see the exact name of the os_prober file
[09:20] <Minchkin> Hold on. This stupid netbook GUI is confusing
[09:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah. just use terminal then
[09:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> cd /etc/default/grub.d
[09:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> then type ls
[09:21] <Minchkin> Open
[09:22] <Minchkin> What now?
[09:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> you can see the name of file OS prober right?
[09:23] <Minchkin> What would it look like?
[09:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> it may be 30os_prober or something
[09:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> charliemac, you want to change the LXDM right?
[09:25] <Minchkin> Want me to post to pastebin?
[09:25] <IAmNotThatGuy> charliemac, I just found. http://ubuntu-lxde.wikidot.com/slim . I dont have much idea about what you asked
[09:26] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, umm! you can find that name? or else pastebin
[09:26] <Minchkin> Ok. Give me a min
[09:27] <IAmNotThatGuy> ping me by saying Mohi. I will be another screen
[09:28] <Minchkin> http://pastebin.com/HMyY6ARX
[09:28] <charliemac> How can I use Unntbootin to reformat my WinXP computer with #lubuntu ?
[09:29] <charliemac> #unetbootin
[09:31] <Minchkin> IAmNotThatGuy, did you see it?
[09:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> wait
[09:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> looking
[09:31] <Minchkin> ok
[09:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, try restarting and press shit key. see whether you get the boot screen or not. before that, do sudo update-grub
[09:33] <Minchkin> That is a vulgar key
[09:35] <Minchkin> Ok. What am I soposed to do after that?
[09:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, there right?
[09:36] <Minchkin> No... I just want to be sure I don't screw up
[09:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> I want you to alter one thing in that file
[09:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, you have to set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
[09:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> out False
[09:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> F in caps will be better
[09:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, or any problem in re-installing GNOME?
[09:37] <Minchkin> I don't have root...
[09:37] <Minchkin> What is GNOME?
[09:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> !gnome | MichealH
[09:38] <ubot2> MichealH: GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.
[09:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah
[09:39] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, thats for you
[09:39] <IAmNotThatGuy> you can try re-installing if your GUI troubles. or else, you can edit the file and try logging into previous kernel version and check
[09:39] <Minchkin> But I don't think it is the GUI... Everything froze up and I did a hard reboot...
[09:40] <charliemac> Is there a way to put LXDE on Xubuntu?
[09:40] <Minchkin> And now it does this
[09:42] <Minchkin> It is a boxy GUI, stuck on Netbook, and I don't know what to do.
[09:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> I think its some error in GNOME. your system is upto date?
[09:44] <Minchkin> Ya. I am downloading the .iso right now. But my connection is limiting how fast this is going.
[09:44] <Minchkin> Should be.
[09:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> hmmm
[09:44] <charliemac> Is LXDE with SLiM over Xubuntu as light and zippy as Lubuntu with SLiM?
[09:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, try reinstalling GNOME. I think that will do. sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <Minchkin> I haz an issue with that command. sudo: aptitude: command not found
[09:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6785034&postcount=5
[09:53] <Minchkin> Should I let you know what happens?
[09:58] <Minchkin> Reboot?
[09:59] <Minchkin> IAmNotThatGuy, do you want me to reboot?
[10:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> Yes
[10:00] <Minchkin> Ok
[10:03] <Minchkin> Back!
[10:03] <Minchkin> It worked! Thank you!
[10:09] <charliemac> Can I use UNetbootin to overwrite the C:\ with the Lubuntu ISO on the target machine (which runs winXPI have the md5sum confirmed lubuntu10.10 iso as well as unetbootin in seperate thumb drives on the target machine, which runs winXP.
[10:24] <Minchkin> Hey, so I am having another issue.
[10:29] <head_victim> !ask
[10:29] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[10:29] <head_victim> Minchkin: some of us wander to and fro from out PCs so when you need a question answered just ask the issue and when I wander past can try to help ;)
[10:32] <Minchkin> Lul. Sorry. I tend to be fully focused on chatrooms... So, I need a way to make/replace a missing file/item to make Skype and IDJC to play nice.
[10:33] <Minchkin> /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_jack.la <-- This is missing when I do "find /usr/lib/alsa-lib | grep jack
[10:33] <Minchkin> And from what I have read, when/if I get that, I should be clear and free.
[11:05] <IAmNotThatGuy> Minchkin, click check for updates and that will automatically find the missing file. but I found a link which may be helpful for you. http://idjc.sourceforge.net/tutorials_voip.html
[11:06] <Minchkin> That is how I know it is missing. I did the command and the 2nd one is missing
[11:13] <arief1> are u still having installation problem whit IDJC Minchkin ?
[11:14] <M0hi> Minchkin, it has the source link and library link at the bottom of the error you got
[11:14] <Minchkin> Not really an install problem, just a plugin problem. What that does is make it easier to play calls...
[11:15] <Minchkin> ???
[11:16] <arief1> what was log said ?
[11:16] <Minchkin> How do I get to the log?
[11:16] <Minchkin> Oh, and the Xchat plugin won't work either
[11:16] <arief1> log are located on /var/log/..
[11:18] <Minchkin> Which one though?
[11:19] <arief1> find something related with idjc
[11:19] <arief1> or try this
[11:19] <arief1> tail -100f /var/log/system.log
[11:20] <Minchkin> syslog, or syslog.1?
[11:20] <arief1> just syslog
[11:21] <arief1> what method are u using to install idjc ? source *.tar.gz or from reposiroty ?
[11:21] <Minchkin> Ubuntu Software center
[11:22] <arief1> ok
[11:22] <arief1> do u find some error on syslog ?
[11:23] <Minchkin> Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
[11:25] <arief1> hmm.. looks like your sound-card driver are not installed correctly
[11:25] <Minchkin> How do I fix that?
[11:26] <arief1> sudo apt-cache search alsa
[11:27] <Minchkin> Big list ensues
[11:28] <arief1> look for alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsa-souce
[11:28] <arief1> sorry, I'm forget, 1st check that you are installed alsa
[11:28] <arief1> or not
[11:29] <Minchkin> How?
[11:29] <arief1> check with : sudo dpkg -l | grep alsa
[11:30] <Minchkin> alsa-base, -utils, bluez-alsa, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[11:30] <arief1> if alsa installed, you will see alsa-base & alsa-utils on results
[11:31] <arief1> try updated, to make sure you are using the newest driver version
[11:31] <Minchkin> ok.
[11:31] <Minchkin> sudo apt-something update asla?
[11:31] <arief1> sudo apt-get upgrade alsa-utils alsa-base
[11:32] <Minchkin> Nothing.
[11:33] <arief1> hmm... so you are using the latest sound driver, but log said "this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'"
[11:33] <arief1> I assume your sound_card is not supported by Ubuntu yet , IMHO
[11:34] <Minchkin> Well, how do I make this work?
[11:34] <Minchkin> *sigh*
[11:35] <arief1> but.. are you can play any mp3 files ?
[11:36] <Minchkin> Yes. I can play any audio. I am just missing that one file to stream from Skype
[11:38] <arief1> I'm sorry, I can't help more, but if the ALSA was the problem, I found it still reporting as Bug and not solved yet
[11:38] <arief1> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18954
[11:38] <Minchkin> ugh
[11:38] <Minchkin> Thanks. :) I appreciate your help.
[11:39] <arief1> u r welcome, try to post your problem on ubuntu forum
[11:39] <Minchkin> Ok.
[11:39] <arief1> maybe Ubuntu Guru will help u
[11:47] <MrChrisDruif> Minchkin: First try to find a similar one, we don't like duplicate forum posts (I must admit, not easy to search (hence my dislike of the forum :P, but that's just me))
[11:50] <Minchkin> I know what you mean. I mod zunescene forums (and I co-host the podcast). Seems like people just don't want to search for anything.
[11:57] <head_victim> I love google. It finds me everything I ever need to know. If it doesn't exist on google I'm not meant to know it.
[11:57] <Minchkin> Lol
[11:58] <head_victim> In google I trust.
[11:58] <Minchkin> So Skype has a post about alsa. But when I type one of the commands, it brings back a FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.
[12:05] <M0hi> heya philinux
[12:05] <philinux> o/
[12:06] <M0hi> How are you?
[12:10] <tdn> I need to remote control a friend's computer via VNC or similar. I need to help him do something. We are both behind NAT. He uses Ubuntu 10.10. I use Kubuntu 10.04. What to do?
[12:10] <tdn> Could I do this with SSH tunnels or something like that?
[12:10] <tdn> I have access to a third server via SSH (Debian Lenny)
[12:12] <philinux> M0hi: not bad just patrolling
[12:12] <head_victim> tdn: if you need gui interface vnc would work you just have to port forward the router.
[12:13] <Minchkin> arief1, would switching to esound help?
[12:13] <head_victim> tdn: if you really only need cli then you still probably need to port forward the router but ssh would be much better.
[12:18] <AJH101> Hi i was here recently with this same question but got interrupted sorry. My panels have disappeared. How do I restore them and how do I access Terminal when I have no panels?! Thans :-)
[12:18] <AJH101> Thanks
[12:21] <tdn> head_victim, I do not have access to the router.
[12:22] <tdn> head_victim, and I need GUI.
[12:23] <head_victim> tdn: ah well the only way I know how to vnc with port forwarding through natted routers sorry, someone else might know though?
[12:23] <head_victim> AJH101: control alt and t should do it
[12:23] <tdn> head_victim, I am thinking that I can run a VNC client in listen mode from a remote server via ssh with X forwarding. Then my friend can establish a connection to my listening client on the remote server.
[12:23] <tdn> head_victim, the third server is not behind NAT.
[12:24] <head_victim> tdn: so point a is you, point b is your friend, what is this third server?
[12:24] <AJH101> head_victim: great thans i have terminal. now what?
[12:24] <head_victim> AJH101: that was the easy part, looking up the rest sorry
[12:24] <tdn> head_victim, point C. Not behind NAT.
[12:24] <tdn> head_victim, so I am thinking: A->C ; B->C
[12:25] <head_victim> AJH101: killall gnome-panel is meant to do it
[12:25] <tdn> So I ssh to C with X forwarding and start a VNC client in listen mode.
[12:25] <head_victim> tdn: sounds messy but plausible.
[12:25] <tdn> head_victim, then B connects his VNC to C.
[12:25] <tdn> head_victim, I can do this if the other side is Windows with TightVNC. Is TightVNC available with Ubuntu?
[12:26] <head_victim> Yep
[12:26] <head_victim> I only use tightvnc
[12:26] <AJH101> head_victim: no process found
[12:26] <head_victim> AJH101: ah , hang on I'll find another idea
[12:26] <AJH101> h_v: ta
[12:27] <head_victim> AJH101: "sudo gnome-panel" should bring them up
[12:27] <head_victim> Is this a once off or everytime you boot?
[12:27] <AJH101> h_v: it was fine but is now everytime i boot. any ideas?
[12:28] <tdn> head_victim, Ok. How do I make tightvnc connect to a listening client from Ubuntu?
[12:28] <AJH101> h_v: gnome-panel command not found
[12:28] <head_victim> tdn: I only use ubuntu to ubuntu, no idea how to incorporate the third server you were talking about
[12:28] <head_victim> AJH101: is this Ubuntu or Kubuntu or ?
[12:28] <AJH101> ubuntu 10.10
[12:28] <tdn> head_victim, I run this on the server now: vncviewer -listen 0
[12:29] <head_victim> AJH101: have you removed any software recently?
[12:29] <AJH101> i thin the only ones i have removed are evolution and empathy
[12:29] <AJH101> think
[12:30] <head_victim> AHhh I saw some noise about evolution removing panel
[12:30] <AJH101> eek. now what?
[12:32] <head_victim> AJH101: sudo apt-get update
[12:32] <head_victim> then
[12:32] <head_victim> AJH101: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[12:32] <head_victim> see if that works
[12:32] <head_victim> I'm taking this from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1099714 but make sure you read all the comments first before doing any other ideas
[12:34] <AJH101> hmm still no panels but i will read thanks
[12:34] <head_victim> Were there any errros after sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ?
[12:36] <AJH101> h_v: no it all seemed to run ok. thin a restart is in order?!
[12:36] <head_victim> Possibly
[12:36] <M0hi> head_victim, kill all gnome-panel is done?
[12:36] <head_victim> M0hi: yeah he lost it after uninstalling evolution I think
[12:36] <head_victim> I have had him reinstall it now
[12:36] <head_victim> The forum link I gave a few lines up seems a pretty good explanation
[12:37] <AJH101> may as for that again. brb
[12:37] <M0hi> head_victim, mostly I did http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4663517&postcount=9
[12:37] <M0hi> and that gave some success
[12:38] <head_victim> Ah, I found the other one googling "ubuntu removing evolution removed gnome-panel" or something
[12:38] <M0hi> philinux, hmm! often come here and show that you are here with us ;)
[12:38] <M0hi> head_victim, but he left :P
[12:38] <head_victim> I'd say evolution has gnome-panel mixed up in it and removed it along with evolution so reinstalling it should work
[12:38] <head_victim> He's rebooting I think
[12:39] <M0hi> Lets see
[12:39] <head_victim> Heh
[12:39] <head_victim> Now, we wait.
[12:39] <head_victim> :D
[12:39] <head_victim> I wonder why my upload is hitting 100kb/s when torrents are only 20. Ohh rsync in progress, up to 4.2MBs  down might be doing it
[12:39] <M0hi> lol :P
[12:40] <M0hi> check your ip table too :P
[12:41] <head_victim> It's going up and down with the download speed so I'd say the rsync is the issue.
[12:41] <head_victim> It's all unmetered so I don't mind so much (I run a local Ubuntu mirror at home for the home network)
[12:41] <M0hi> ah. k k
[12:42] <head_victim> It took 2 days for the first rsync ;)
[12:42] <head_victim> Actually pretty good for a residential connection in my country
[12:43] <M0hi> I dont wanna talk about the situation here :P
[12:44] <M0hi> AJH101, wb
[12:44] <AJH101> h_v: panels bac on restart but i have an error
[12:45] <M0hi> yeah whats the error? if you can, imagebin it
[12:45] <AJH101> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[12:45] <AJH101> delete or not? not sure what it does! lol
[12:46] <MrChrisDruif> We've got a patroller? philinux? :)
[12:46] <head_victim> AJH101: I never delete
[12:46] <head_victim> All it does is next time you restart it will try to load it again
[12:46] <M0hi> MrChrisDruif, watch out :P
[12:47] <hobgoblin> I should
[12:47] <head_victim> I have had that error before, it went away on it's own. BUT if it persists, please see a doct.. I mean come back and let us know ;)
[12:47]  * philinux is watching sky sports. Liverpool !
[12:47] <MrChrisDruif> M0hi: I will :)
[12:47] <M0hi> AJH101, http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503050
[12:47] <AJH101> lol thanks guys
[12:47] <M0hi> Heya hobgoblin
[12:48] <hobgoblin> o/
[12:48] <head_victim> AJH101: we're here to help :D
[12:48] <M0hi> philinux, any goals till now?
[12:48] <M0hi> whats up hobgoblin ?
[12:48] <hobgoblin> nada
[12:48] <philinux> M0hi: just kicked off
[12:48] <M0hi> philinux, awwwh
[12:48] <duanedesign> o?
[12:49] <M0hi> hobgoblin, and I got the call letter. I am going ot join the company by Feb 17 =]
[12:49] <M0hi> duanedesign, Hello there (;
[12:49] <hobgoblin> congrats M0hi and hi duanedesign
[12:49] <M0hi> ty hobgoblin (;
[12:58] <AJH101> hello again - one more quick thing. how do i delay the auto start of, say thunderbird by 10 seconds to allow network to connect?
[13:07] <head_victim> AJH101: it doesn't just wait for the network then connect?
[13:07] <head_victim> I thought it would auto connect when the network came up, despite being running ok before hand
[13:08] <AJH101> perhaps - i remember some time ago when i was running an earlier version i set up a delay (with lots of help lol)
[13:09] <AJH101> remind me how i set up auto start please?
[13:10] <AJH101> startup applications - got it :-)
[13:30] <tdn> head_victim, x11vnc -connect <host> did the trick :D
[13:30] <head_victim> tdn: so glad you got it sorted, sorry I couldn't help much
[13:58] <aldee96> test
[13:58] <arief1> hello
[13:59] <MrChrisDruif> Good test aldee96 :)
[14:00] <aldee96> i have some probs with vlc, the webcam goes only black and white. it happens after i played with some setting in vls
[14:00] <aldee96> vlc i mean
[14:00] <arief1> what is log said aldee96 ?
[14:00] <aldee96> what logs?
[14:01] <aldee96> it's just always played with black and white effect
[14:01] <aldee96> do you know how to returned it back?
[14:04] <arief1> mybe you can find something here http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9386373
[14:04] <aldee96> arief1 are you indonesian?
[14:05] <arief1> yup
[14:05] <arief1> I am
[14:09] <aldee96> wah tinggal dimana?
[14:13] <aldee96> arief1 solusi itu untuk file video bukan untuk webcam seperti masalah saya
[14:24] <AJH101> hello again - am on a roll now - i have searched all the pages but has anyone got any magic bullets to get skype video woring?!
[14:24] <hobgoblin> please keep to english in this channel - there is probably a loco channel for your language
[14:24] <paultag> AJH101: I've got it working :)
[14:24] <paultag> AJH101: what's your issue?
[14:24] <paultag> morning hobgoblin
[14:25] <hobgoblin> hi paultag
[14:25] <paultag> :)
[14:25] <AJH101> when i 'test video' in 'options' my screen whites out
[14:26] <paultag> AJH101: the whole screen or the window
[14:26] <paultag> AJH101: or the little webcam thing
[14:26] <AJH101> whole screen
[14:26] <paultag> no shit
[14:26] <paultag> AJH101: that's awesome
[14:26] <paultag> in a bad way, but awesome
[14:26] <AJH101> i feel really blessed lol
[14:26] <paultag> AJH101: I've never heard of that, that's brilliant
[14:27] <paultag> AJH101: humm. Let's see here
[14:28] <M0hi> who let paultag to talk? :P
[14:28]  * M0hi hugs paultag 
[14:30] <paultag> hey M0hi
[14:30] <paultag> AJH101: damn. Have you tried the LDPRELOAD hack? I wonder if it's not because of v4l fuxing display drivers, although that sounds absurd
[14:31] <AJH101> i have read about that i thin but wasnt sure how to make it work
[14:32] <paultag> AJH101: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype
[14:32] <paultag> AJH101: that's a usable command
[14:32] <AJH101> how?
[14:33] <paultag> AJH101: in a terminal :)
[14:33] <AJH101> brb!
[14:37] <paultag> :)
[14:38] <aldee96> is there anyone could help me?
[14:38] <paultag> !ask | aldee96
[14:38] <ubot2> aldee96: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[14:38] <paultag> aldee96: lots of people :)
[14:39] <AJH101> paultag: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2cconvert.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[14:39] <aldee96> about my webcam that always come with b/w effect, but the fact is no effect applied, it's happen after i played with some settings in vlc
[14:39] <paultag> aldee96: are you on 64 bit or some such?
[14:40] <paultag> aldee96: in what application?
[14:40] <aldee96> 32 bit ubuntu 10.10, on vaio
[14:40] <aldee96> paultag in any apps that using a webcam
[14:40] <paultag> aldee96: what webcam?
[14:41] <paultag> AJH101: sorry, are you on 64 bit?
[14:41] <AJH101> 32
[14:41] <aldee96> on built in camera. vaio vgp-vcc6 on 32 bit ubuntu maverick
[14:41] <paultag> AJH101: sudo apt-get install libv4l-0
[14:42] <paultag> aldee96: are you using the R5U870 driver?
[14:43] <aldee96> yes, by the way why i have to install the libv4l-0
[14:43] <aldee96> +paultag yes
[14:43] <paultag> aldee96: I told AJH101 not you :)
[14:44] <AJH101> paultag: quit skype and restarted - same issue
[14:45] <paultag> AJH101: dang
[14:45] <paultag> aldee96: I'm not sure. That driver looks unmaintained and poorly supported. It might have broke with the bindings
[14:45] <paultag> webcams in Linux sucks, generally
[14:45] <aldee96> it was works fine before
[14:46] <paultag> aldee96: with an old Ubuntu?
[14:46] <AJH101> paultag: even when i start with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype
[14:46] <paultag> AJH101: yes, so it's not an issue with skype or v4l, it's something to do with your display drivers
[14:47] <AJH101> o good
[14:47] <aldee96> i just installed the r5u870 yesterday and it works fine in this ubuntu maverick
[14:47] <paultag> aldee96: oh interesting
[14:47] <paultag> aldee96: do you have `cheese' installed?
[14:49] <aldee96> yes, just like in vlc there's only the b/w picture of the webcam, though there's no effect applied
[14:49] <paultag> aldee96: try appling something and then unapplying it
[14:49] <paultag> aldee96: such as black and white, or the like
[14:51] <AJH101> paultag: i installed cheese. my cam is recognised but no video at all
[14:51] <aldee96> +paultag not working
[14:52] <paultag> aldee96: hummmm. perhaps I'm wrong
[14:52] <paultag> aldee96: I'm going to level with you here -- webcams are my nightmare, I really am not too good at getting these sorts of things resolved
[14:52] <paultag> I've seriously let a handful of people out of here with an issue still, and most of them are webcam-ers
[14:52] <paultag> aldee96: I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu, see if anyone knows there
[14:53] <paultag> AJH101: as for you, it sounds like something funny's going on
[14:53] <aldee96> i've asking but there's no reply yet
[14:53] <AJH101> lol laugh a minute here
[14:54] <paultag> aldee96: post once, wait 5 minutes, post again, wait 5 minutes
[14:54] <paultag> AJH101: :)
[14:55] <AJH101> its this and the general instability that puts people off. lots of help i know but...
[14:56] <paultag> AJH101: I know, I know
[14:56] <paultag> AJH101: webcams are a nightmare
[14:56] <paultag> AJH101: it's really hard to change because hardware is so unique with protocol, and drivers only exist for Winblows
[14:56] <paultag> AJH101: so we have to spend hundreds of man-hours fighting crappy hardware
[14:56] <paultag> this is why we need standards :)
[14:57] <AJH101> ah standards yes
[14:57] <paultag> but you're so right
[14:57] <paultag> it's shit like this that makes people not use GNU/Linux
[14:58] <AJH101> i suppose if chrome takes hold it will open people's eyes and the market
[14:58] <paultag> AJH101: truth, but the real issue ( just like ACPI / Hibernate ) is crappy implementations of ACPI or what have you
[14:59] <paultag> AJH101: so when some fly-by-night company thinks they're doing shit better, it just causes issues
[14:59] <paultag> there should be like 10 drivers in GNU/Linux by default, and hardware should conform to the protocols
[14:59] <AJH101> when do we get ubuntu on mobile phones?
[14:59] <paultag> not 5-fucking-thousand
[14:59] <paultag> AJH101: hehe, not sure :)
[14:59] <paultag> AJH101: android is a nice stand-in for now
[15:00] <AJH101> yes my next phone will be android
[15:00] <AJH101> is there an app somewhere to allow android apps on ubuntu?
[15:01] <paultag> AJH101: I have no clue. Why?
[15:01] <paultag> AJH101: you can run it in a SDK
[15:01] <AJH101> sorry - what?
[15:02] <paultag> AJH101: there is an android emulator
[15:03] <AJH101> where do i find the andoid emulator?
[15:03] <paultag> AJH101: moment
[15:03] <paultag> AJH101: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
[15:04] <AJH101> paultag: tanks. will check at #ubuntu re video drivers
[15:04] <AJH101> ttfn
[15:04] <paultag> AJH101: tt
[15:07] <head_victim> I'm waiting on meego for a phone.
[15:17] <_CommandeR_> hiya guys
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[15:41] <duanedesign> _CommandeR_: nice
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[17:28] <Guegs> So I just installed Ubuntu for the 5th or 6th time because I would always get issues with my ATI 5770 gfx card and the windows becoming jagged when moving them. I decided to download the drivers from ATI's site instead of through the driver manager built into Ubuntu this time. I right click on the .run file I downloaded, change  its permission to allow execute as a program, and I get an MD5 error. Any ideas?
[17:29] <aveilleux> Guegs: Try re-downloading, then changing permissions via command-line instead (the graphical method doesn't always work)
[17:30] <aveilleux> Guegs: I can walk you through it if you need me to
[17:30] <Guegs> Alright, thanks. I will give it a try redownloading first.
[17:30] <Guegs> http://pastebin.com/tD31bzGZ
[17:30] <Guegs> that is the error I was getting anyway.
[17:31] <aveilleux> Guegs: Oh, I see, the error is with the program itself.
[17:31] <aveilleux> Guegs: Yeah I'd suggest re-downlading it
[17:31] <Guegs> Alright. It is going. Hope this works. :)
[17:32] <Guegs> This is a screenshot of the issue I am having with the windows.
[17:32] <Guegs> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3003262/Screenshot.png
[17:35] <bobbyj> anybody know how to share your aircard internet connection over a router?
[17:40] <Guegs> aveilleux, this is what I get without any drivers installed:
[17:40] <Guegs> http://i56.tinypic.com/v3mud0.png
[17:41] <aveilleux> woah
[17:41] <aveilleux> Guegs: Are you using the binary ("restricted") or open-source drivers?
[17:41] <Guegs> Ya, and look at the one where I had drivers installed.
[17:42] <Guegs> At the moment, I am using whatever Ubuntu came with. I literally just finished the installation 10 minutes ago.
[17:42] <Guegs> But the first picture I sent, I was using flgrx.
[17:42] <aveilleux> Guegs: Did you install the restricted drivers using System > Administration > Additional Drivers?
[17:43] <Guegs> Correct. But when that didn't work for me I was going to download the ones from ATI's site and install that way.
[17:43] <aveilleux> Guegs: Okay, just seeing if you used the applet or installed manually through apt-get or Synaptic.
[17:44] <Guegs> I thought that perhaps Ubuntu was downloading old drivers and thus giving me the messed up windows.
[17:44] <aveilleux> Guegs: That's possible
[17:44] <aveilleux> Guegs: I don't have any ATi video cards (that aren't old and therefore fully supported under the oss drivers) so I don't really know much about them on Linux
[17:45] <Guegs> Darn. I have talked to many people with the same card as mine (5770), and they say that it works fine for them. I thought maybe my card was defective, so I stress tested it. Nothing.
[19:19] <geirha> That askubuntu site is hard to follow
[20:26] <AJH101> hi how do i find out my video chipset to get the right ubuntu drivers?
[20:27] <geirha> In a terminal:  lspci | grep VGA
[20:28] <geirha> Use everything after the : in a google search, and add "ubuntu" as a search word and you'll usually get useful results.
[21:05] <bp7lax> how do u private message some one in XChat IRC
[21:09] <aveilleux> bp7lax: Right-click on their name and hit "Open Dialog Window"
[21:09] <aveilleux> bp7lax: Or, type /query <name>
[21:18] <ibuclaw> aveilleux, /msg aveilleux secret message usually works.
[21:19] <aveilleux> ibuclaw: Usually, but only if the client improperly handles /msg as /query
[21:24] <AJH101> hi do you know where i can find ubuntu drivers for: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)?
[21:37] <aveilleux> AJH101: Intel's driver is FOSS and you shouldn't need one.
[21:38] <pedro3005> aveilleux, oh my god
[21:38] <AJH101> in skype the webcam is slow to show video
[21:38] <pedro3005> I can't believe I didn't know about /query
[21:38] <AJH101> any other ideas?
[21:38] <pedro3005> I've been typing /msg
[21:38] <pedro3005> D:
[21:39] <aveilleux> AJH101: Well that video chipset is... not very good...
[21:39] <aveilleux> pedro3005: Luckily for you, no one else has been using irssi you've been PMing with :P
[21:39] <aveilleux> pedro3005: Usually only CLI clients handle /msg from a user as an inline message
[21:40] <aveilleux> pedro3005: As opposed to just opening a new tab/window, like a /query should
[21:40]  * ddecator didn't realize that
[21:40] <pedro3005> I see
[22:42] <learningtouse> ok so am running win 7 dual boot with ubuntu ... ubuntu is recognized but wont load into graphical interface something to do with bcdedit... downloaded bcdedit 2.0 now how do i get it to point to ubuntu... loaded mbr onto the partition but still isnt working right
[22:42] <learningtouse> help?
[22:43] <learningtouse> keeps saying wubildr.mbr is missing
[22:44] <bioterror> ive got no experience with wubi
[22:45] <bioterror> sorry, maybe someone else can help
[22:45] <learningtouse> ya it is being a serious stinker
[22:46] <bioterror> to be honest, I havent heard much good about it
[22:46] <ddecator> i've had trouble with windows not playing friendly with wubi, but i'm not sure that's the issue here
[22:47] <learningtouse> install to seperate partition went fine... just trying to get it to recognize the mbr seems to be the problem
[22:48] <learningtouse> need to change the bootloader path from: Bootloader Path: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr to Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe maybe
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: ping
[22:49] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: hey
[22:49] <holstein> whatsup?
[22:49] <ddecator> the issue i had was windows sometimes moves wubi files automatically because it doesn't like them for some reason, so that could be why they're missing
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: this is totally OC, but might interest you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlVbEclPj4c
[22:51] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: lol
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> It think it's cool... if the tune's good enough, you can play it in almost any way
[22:52] <learningtouse> maybe that is what is happening? i loaded it up fine and directed to load mbr which seems to have loaded fine... but doesnt want to play with 7
[22:52] <holstein> carbon fiber cellos :)
[22:53] <holstein> yeah, its cool, the video is funny
[22:55] <kristian-aalborg> checking another video by one of the handsome guys... he can play
[22:56] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: thanks :)
[22:56]  * holstein gotta run... BBL
[22:56] <kristian-aalborg> sorry 'bout the deroute, y'all
[22:56] <kristian-aalborg> see ya, holstein