| Technoviking | everyone have a great weekend | 00:03 |
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| czajkowski | Technoviking: you too | 00:04 |
| czajkowski | Pendulum: love how michelles status gets hijacked :) | 00:51 |
| duanedesign | did someone mention bacon and syrup, mmmmmmmmm :) | 00:51 |
| duanedesign | http://drool.popey.com/ | 00:52 |
| popey | heh | 00:52 |
| czajkowski | trust me that is not the face popey makes when he tastes bacon and syrup | 00:54 |
| czajkowski | more the face of a 4 year old being forced to eat their greens | 00:54 |
| jono | akgraner, mind putting up http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/01/22/making-ubuntu-more-personal-identify-contributions-to-engage-more-personally/ on ubuntu-news? | 01:23 |
| akgraner | jono okie dokie - don't mind at all | 01:24 |
| jono | thanks akgraner :-) | 01:41 |
| akgraner | jono it's posted- http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/01/22/making-ubuntu-more-personal-identify-contributions-to-engage-more-personally/ | 01:59 |
| doctormo | akgraner: the article says it's by you, are you not allowed to change it to jono? | 02:03 |
| akgraner | at the bottom it says where it's originally posted | 02:03 |
| akgraner | the by is the editor who posts it - nothing new there | 02:04 |
| akgraner | the old Fridge was the same way | 02:04 |
| akgraner | this way we know who posted it at a glance | 02:04 |
| akgraner | :-) | 02:05 |
| doctormo | akgraner: Aye I see | 02:06 |
| doctormo | akgraner: How are you by the way? We haven't talked in a while. | 02:06 |
| akgraner | I know, I've missed talking to you... | 02:06 |
| akgraner | Fine - Still living at home with my parents - I should put cameras up - its not the Walton's we are way more funnier here... | 02:07 |
| akgraner | New House should be ready by end of February or first of March.. | 02:08 |
| akgraner | seem like forever but it in reality it will only be about 5 months | 02:08 |
| doctormo | akgraner: It sounds like things are getting back on track, which is good. | 02:16 |
| jono | thanks akgraner! | 02:17 |
| doctormo | I've been busy with various projects, I might even be starting a business. None tech related, we'll see how to research pans out. | 02:17 |
| akgraner | doctormo, yeppers... | 02:17 |
| akgraner | doctormo, really? | 02:17 |
| akgraner | is it non-tech non-open source or still tied to open source somehow? | 02:18 |
| doctormo | akgraner: Yea, turns out that will all my graphics and design, web experience etc I make a good business partner ;-) | 02:18 |
| akgraner | :-) nice! | 02:18 |
| doctormo | Well it's non-technical as in not involving computers. Except for making websites I guess. | 02:18 |
| doctormo | then again computers havent exactly given me a way to get a job. Which is why I'm being more open about the kinds of jobs I should explore. | 02:19 |
| akgraner | gotcha | 02:19 |
| doctormo | Funny, one of my friends who read my horror short story said I should go into tech writing. heh | 02:20 |
| akgraner | Good Luck - you gotta keep us informed it's always fun to see what everyone is doing and working on | 02:20 |
| akgraner | hehe | 02:20 |
| doctormo | akgraner: Thanks :-) will let you know if it stays on track. Might be fun to do my own biz for a change. | 02:23 |
| doctormo | pleia2, evilvish: Hey guys. | 08:10 |
| * evilvish waits for pleia2 too.. | 08:10 | |
| * popey tickles doctormo | 08:48 | |
| * doctormo tickles popey's ipad | 09:36 | |
| popey | I don't think Steve would like that. | 09:36 |
| duanedesign | hello all | 11:15 |
| paultag | hello, world | 14:18 |
| doctormo | hello paultag's world | 14:41 |
| paultag | hey doctormo | 14:42 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: you about? | 16:02 |
| pleia2 | replying to your email | 16:03 |
| doctormo | pleia2: thanks | 16:15 |
| * duanedesign waves at pleia2 l | 16:17 | |
| pleia2 | g'day duanedesign :) | 16:17 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Thanks for your response, I think it's the directory that's the issue | 16:37 |
| pleia2 | hmm | 16:37 |
| pleia2 | ah, the apache2 directory | 16:38 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: try now? | 16:38 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Confirmed working. | 16:39 |
| pleia2 | great | 16:40 |
| * duanedesign waves at doctormo | 17:15 | |
| * doctormo mexican waves at duanedesign | 17:15 | |
| duanedesign | was just having a cup of tea ;) | 17:16 |
| doctormo | a good cup of tea? or one of those teas from America? ;-) | 17:19 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: no no, none of that. I am a graduate of "Doctormo's Impromptu UDS Tea Class" | 17:23 |
| doctormo | What'cha havin? | 17:23 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: PG Tips | 17:25 |
| jcastro | hi! | 17:25 |
| doctormo | Nice, duanedesign, got any Yorkshire yet? they've started selling it here in all sorts of places. | 17:25 |
| doctormo | hey jcastro | 17:25 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: i almost got some last time I was at the store. Was a little unsure about the difference in Red and Gold? | 17:26 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: Not much, get the gold if you can. Try both. | 17:34 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: Because if PG Tips is a solid 5 out of 10, Yorkshire is a good 8. | 17:34 |
| doctormo | Twinings and Tetleys gets only 3 IMO. While if liptons wasn't disqualified from being tea, it'd get a -1 | 17:36 |
| duanedesign | lol | 17:37 |
| jcastro | akgraner: don't forget to accept that person's answer if it answers your question | 17:54 |
| doctormo | Why is glade always broken in Ubuntu? With 10.10 it won't do liststores (crashes) I guess it needs testing more... | 21:16 |
| JanC | glade doesn't crash when adding a liststore here? | 21:40 |
| doctormo | JanC: I nailed it down, it crashes when you drag the un-created column row, | 21:52 |
| doctormo | Something that would only happy to people using a wacom tablet like me | 21:52 |
| doctormo | Since dragging happens all the time by accident due to small variations in pen position when clicking. | 21:52 |
| doctormo | Thanks for checking it out though JanC, much appricated | 21:56 |
| JanC | right, I can reproduce that with the mouse too | 22:06 |
| JanC | and sounds like exactly the sort of thing that "never" gets tested... | 22:07 |
| JanC | doctormo: if you have a bug #, I also tested in natty, and it crashes there too | 22:10 |
| doctormo | JanC: I don't, go ahead and make one for me and I'll give you a cookie. | 22:10 |
| JanC | bah, approt doesn't want to help :-( | 22:13 |
| JanC | apport | 22:13 |
| JanC | doctormo: feel free to "me-too", add info, etc. to bug #706432 | 22:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 706432 in glade-3 "glade crashes if you drag the "< define a new column >" row of List Stores when no columns are defined yet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706432 | 22:52 |
| doctormo | JanC: As promised: http://imagebin.org/133911 | 23:12 |
| doctormo | have a cookie | 23:12 |
| JanC | thanks ☺ | 23:12 |
| * JanC stores cookie away for when he has coffee | 23:13 | |
| doctormo | It's probably redeemable at uds for some of those hi-tech 3D cookies too. | 23:15 |
| paultag | cookies? | 23:26 |
| paultag | where | 23:26 |
| doctormo | paultag: http://imagebin.org/133911 | 23:28 |
| pleia2 | paultag: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5235347430 | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | man, those were good | 23:29 |
| paultag | awwww | 23:29 |
| paultag | pleia2: I was JUST about to post that :D | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:29 |
| paultag | pleia2: that was a fun day :) | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | yeah it was | 23:29 |
| paultag | pleia2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5215123278/in/set-72157625409812461/#/ :) | 23:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: looks so uncomfortable | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | yay us! | 23:30 |
| doctormo | super secrete OH+MA+PA cookies away! | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | yeah well he's british | 23:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: sed s/PA/CA/g | 23:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: AWAY! | 23:30 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Nah, I'm internalized. My interpersonal emulator isn't perfect so certain situations still cause more crashes than wine. | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:31 |
| doctormo | That's the look of a weird crash error on my internal command line ;-) | 23:31 |
| doctormo | pleia2, paultag: what are you two up to today? | 23:33 |
| paultag | doctormo: you, sir, are a rampant nutjob | 23:33 |
| paultag | doctormo: just working on some fluxboxen' loven' | 23:33 |
| paultag | doctormo: getting some patches upstream, and rebuilding for an update | 23:33 |
| paultag | fixes a NX issue causing 100% CPU load and ah hard crash | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | I'm on call this weekend, so some work stuff, some cleaning up of my inbox and blog-things, user days is in a week so have some things there | 23:34 |
| paultag | a * | 23:34 |
| doctormo | paultag: ahem, I sir am a salient nut job. | 23:34 |
| paultag | pleia2: wooo! | 23:34 |
| paultag | pleia2: I'm exited to *watch* this time ;) | 23:34 |
| paultag | doctormo: senile * | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | paultag: haha, I somehow volunteered to do one again, not sure how that happened | 23:34 |
| paultag | p;) | 23:34 |
| paultag | pleia2: ;) | 23:34 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Where you in a room of people all saying how someone else will lead? | 23:34 |
| paultag | pleia2: I needed a break this cycle from that role :) | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: yeah, everyone took a step back and I wasn't paying attention ;) | 23:35 |
| doctormo | paultag, pleia2: want to try a quick python app for me? It'll be fun. | 23:35 |
| paultag | doctormo: sure, man | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | I'm on my hardy system at the moment | 23:35 |
| doctormo | grab lp:bugbear, might even work on hardy... maybe. and run './create_issue.py' | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | k | 23:36 |
| doctormo | I think it'd be gtkbuilder that'd fall over on hardy, because it might be too out of date to glade up the interface. | 23:37 |
| paultag | doctormo: hardy had glade3 iirc | 23:37 |
| paultag | or that was in intrepid | 23:37 |
| paultag | I can't recall | 23:37 |
| paultag | doctormo: dude, yaml, ouch | 23:38 |
| JanC | glade 3 has changed a lot over time | 23:38 |
| doctormo | paultag: It's a lingering dep | 23:38 |
| paultag | doctormo: json is native iirc, and is much nicer imho | 23:38 |
| paultag | JanC: yeah, it has | 23:38 |
| doctormo | json? javascript, you're as bad as all those gnome freaks with their couchdbs. ;-) | 23:38 |
| paultag | JanC: glade 1 and 2 both created code files, wich was lame. I'm glad it's using XML now, even if XML is gross | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | Version: 2.12.2-0ubuntu1 | 23:39 |
| paultag | doctormo: dude, you're like a kid who hears the word veggie and freaks out | 23:39 |
| JanC | well, creating code is fien if it can read code back too ;) | 23:39 |
| paultag | doctormo: json has nothing to do with javascript other then markup | 23:39 |
| JanC | s/fien/fine/ | 23:39 |
| paultag | JanC: :) | 23:39 |
| doctormo | paultag: I'm happy with yaml, it's nice and editable. I actually prefer it over xml and json. | 23:39 |
| JanC | paultag: that's what .NET IDEs do BTW | 23:39 |
| paultag | JanC: so gross | 23:40 |
| paultag | doctormo: that's a dirty boldfaced lie | 23:40 |
| doctormo | paultag: Nu-uh, best thing there is for configs. | 23:40 |
| paultag | doctormo: I'm missing gtkme, what package is it, do you know? | 23:40 |
| JanC | but I guess it's easier to read code back with C# than with glorified machine code like C ;) | 23:40 |
| paultag | doctormo: json? Yeah, I agree | 23:40 |
| doctormo | Ah right, this is why I got you guys to test :-) | 23:40 |
| paultag | JanC: truth | 23:40 |
| JanC | and macros don't help either | 23:41 |
| paultag | not at all | 23:41 |
| doctormo | paultag: yaml | 23:41 |
| paultag | doctormo: json? yeah I agree | 23:41 |
| paultag | doctormo: what package is python-gtkme ? | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | bzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar repository format 2a (needs bzr 1.16 or later)\n' | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | man, hardy is all kinds of fail today :) | 23:41 |
| paultag | pleia2: awwwww :) | 23:41 |
| * pleia2 pets her little netbook | 23:41 | |
| paultag | Wooohoo! My headache's gone! | 23:42 |
| pleia2 | yay! | 23:42 |
| doctormo | pleia2: thanks for trying. | 23:43 |
| pleia2 | still trying! needing python-yaml | 23:44 |
| paultag | doctormo: hey, lameface! I need gtkme :) | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | and that | 23:44 |
| paultag | doctormo: what package should I apt-get ? | 23:44 |
| doctormo | paultag: you'll need https://launchpad.net/~doctormo/+archive/ppa and it's version 0.8.4 which I'm just uploading now, so you might have to hold onto your pants for a second. | 23:44 |
| paultag | doctormo: cheers ;) | 23:45 |
| doctormo | paultag: or just grab lp:~doctormo/doctormo-random/gtkme/ and slap it in the same dir as the script. | 23:45 |
| paultag | doctormo: I forgot you wrote that abstraction layer | 23:46 |
| doctormo | paultag: It's a good layer, I've had a lot of fun with it. | 23:46 |
| paultag | doctormo: aye | 23:46 |
| paultag | doctormo: fwiw -- cp ../gtkme/lib/gtkme/ ./ -r | 23:48 |
| doctormo | paultag: In the end a lot of the clever bits should go into quickly. But Rick Spensor has that very serious sort of 'stop bothering me with junk' vibe. | 23:48 |
| paultag | doctormo: what about xsdvalidate ? | 23:48 |
| paultag | doctormo: yeah, for sure | 23:48 |
| * doctormo facepalms | 23:48 | |
| doctormo | Yea I put xsdvalidate deps into gtkme, forgot about that. | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | hm, what glib module? | 23:49 |
| paultag | pleia2: humm? | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | File "/home/elizabeth/bugbear/gtkme/__init__.py", line 25, in <module> | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | import glib | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | ImportError: No module named glib | 23:51 |
| doctormo | paultag: lp:~doctormo/doctormo-random/xsdvalidate | 23:52 |
| paultag | pleia2: interesting error | 23:52 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I think you need python-gtk | 23:52 |
| JanC | so, doctormo's glade crasher is reported in GNOME bugzilla too... | 23:52 |
| doctormo | nice JanC :-) | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: which does not exist in hardy! I think I'll stop now :) | 23:53 |
| JanC | or python-gobject | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | I should upgrade my netbook someday | 23:53 |
| doctormo | pleia2: at least to 10.04 | 23:53 |
| paultag | doctormo: OK, I have a GUI up | 23:53 |
| paultag | doctormo: should I report a dummy issue, or will it clot up launchpad? | 23:53 |
| doctormo | paultag: It prints to stdout, don't worry | 23:54 |
| paultag | doctormo: roger | 23:54 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: forgive my sysadminness, when it's working and not EOLed upgrades make me wince ;) | 23:54 |
| doctormo | pleia2: hardy only has 4 months for EOL | 23:54 |
| paultag | doctormo: We're done: {'fixed': False, 'type': 'desktop', 'name': "I don't muchly care for Windows", 'critical': 2} | 23:54 |
| doctormo | paultag: nice, now report a device issue | 23:54 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: yeah, I'll need to get on it soon | 23:55 |
| paultag | We're done: {'device': {'device': 'usb:046d:08da', 'name': 'Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messanger', 'subclass': '2 Streaming', 'class': '1 Audio'}, 'fixed': False, 'type': 'dev', 'name': 'My webcam is slow as all hell', 'critical': 2} | 23:55 |
| paultag | doctormo: well done :) | 23:55 |
| doctormo | paultag: See what I did there :-P there are some other trees too, like if you mark as manually fixed or select "Other not listed device" | 23:56 |
| paultag | doctormo: very nice! | 23:56 |
| paultag | doctormo: great :) | 23:57 |
| paultag | doctormo: How are you plotting to use this? | 23:57 |
| paultag | doctormo: I like how simple it is to report a bug | 23:57 |
| doctormo | paultag: I'm going to make a video ranting about how issues are not bugs. | 23:58 |
| paultag | doctormo: now just make that a frontend for `reportbug' and I'll be a happy guy :) | 23:58 |
| paultag | doctormo: it's a bug that we have to address them ;) | 23:58 |
| doctormo | But I don't think I'll have the data go directly to launchpad bugs, I need it to go to a middle stage first. | 23:58 |
| paultag | doctormo: the sourceforge approach? | 23:58 |
| paultag | doctormo: there are bugs, feature requests, support requests sort of thing? | 23:59 |
| doctormo | See issues are to track what a user sees as issues, bugs are confirmed problems in code. It's perfectly valid for a user to have an issue with something the developer thinks is fine. | 23:59 |
| doctormo | user centric | 23:59 |
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