[01:20] <dmcglone> anybody use time warner cable's caller ID on tv and/or pc?
[01:21] <Unit193> Friend of mine has it on TV
[01:21] <Unit193> At times it shows on TV before the phone rings
[01:21] <dmcglone> do you have to have digital cable to use it?
[01:21] <Unit193> I don't know if you have to, but they do
[01:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: Yes.
[01:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: The CID info is sent to the cable box.  Analog has no way to address a particular customer.
[01:24] <dmcglone> I see
[01:25] <canthus13> Unit193: That's really wierd.  iirc the CID standard requires the info to be sent between the first and second ring... Might be different since OSD isn't defined by any CID standards.
[01:34] <dmcglone> canthus13: any way I can figure out my customer code without having to call them?
[01:34] <canthus13> ...Customer code?
[01:36] <Cheri703> dmcglone: you might try the online chat?
[01:36] <dmcglone> stupid TWC puts a customer code on their bill and you need it to register for the online services, but I haven't got a bill yet
[01:36] <dmcglone> Cheri703: I tried, they won't do anything
[01:37] <dmcglone> she said they can't see it
[01:37] <Cheri703> have you gotten your first bill yet?
[01:37] <dmcglone> nope
[01:37] <dmcglone> :-(
[01:37] <Cheri703> you might have to wait til then
[01:37] <Cheri703> they were stupid til after I got my first bill. I had to yell at them
[01:37] <dmcglone> that sux
[01:38] <dmcglone> Oh believe me I had it out with them today
[01:38] <Cheri703> I'm thinking about making cookies...
[01:38] <dmcglone> took me 4 hours to get my phone service operational
[01:38]  * Cheri703 ONLY has internet
[01:39] <dmcglone> I went with the internet, phone and basic cable for 114.00/mo that includes taxes
[01:40] <canthus13> dmcglone: Customer code is a federal CPNI requirement.  We just call it a security code. and no, the only place it'll be is on your bill.
[01:40] <canthus13> dmcglone: They should be able to call you back at your home phone # and give you that code, though.. but that's going to depend on their own policies.
[01:41] <dmcglone> they have a number to call, but what good does that do a deaf guy? How stupid
[01:41] <canthus13> dmcglone: Good point.
[01:41] <dmcglone> so I have to wait a month to take advantage of my services
[01:42] <canthus13> dmcglone: And only one or two models of captel phones work with cable tel service. the other ones are designed for actual line voltage as opposed to what is designated in the standards.
[01:42] <dmcglone> I was so pissed today, I just wanted to go to TWC and show them just how fucked up their way of doing things is
[01:42] <canthus13> dmcglone: It's not their fault. they can get HUGE fines for violating CPNI regulations.
[01:42] <dmcglone> canthus13: it's more than that
[01:42] <canthus13> dmcglone: And actually, if you were to go in to their office and show photo ID, they should be able to give you that #.
[01:42] <dmcglone> here's what pissed me off the most
[01:43] <dmcglone> I got on their chat service after about 2 hours trying to figure out why the phone wouldn't work
[01:43] <dmcglone> I had to fill out my name address etc etc
[01:44] <dmcglone> got to the chat page and it said it didn't support my web browser or OS
[01:44] <canthus13> Argh.
[01:44] <canthus13> requires IE?
[01:44] <dmcglone> so I went to my mom's winblows computer and she uses chrome
[01:44] <dmcglone> filled all that stuff out again
[01:44] <dmcglone> DENIED
[01:44] <dmcglone> yup, I ended up having to use IE and active X
[01:45] <canthus13> that's idiotic.
[01:45] <canthus13> Ours require you to have at least IE7 or FF3.
[01:45] <dmcglone> so after another hour of trying to get in touch with someone, I finally succeeded to get into the chat
[01:45] <Unit193> Would changing useragentstring help?
[01:45] <canthus13> Unit193: Not for activeX.
[01:46] <dmcglone> after telling her my problems, giving her my last 4 S.S she says
[01:46] <canthus13> Unit193: IE is the only broser that supports ActiveX. and most browsers have it turned off by default.  Since XPSP2, I think.
[01:46] <dmcglone> can't help you
[01:46] <canthus13> eh?
[01:47] <canthus13> They can troubleshoot without that #. they just can't reveal any type of account information, make changes to tel service, or reset any passwords that could potentially give access to that information.
[01:47] <dmcglone> so I called my wife at work ranting and raving and she called them, and he walked her through getting the phone working
[01:47] <canthus13> Sounds like you got an idiot on chat.
[01:47] <dmcglone> I tried 2 times, they must be full of idiots
[01:48]  * canthus13 wonders if TWC has different departments for web chat and tel support.
[01:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: Our web chat is all done by the same people that you would talk to on the phone.
[01:48] <dmcglone> I have no idea, but I really really want to do something about them not serving the disabled community and people who choose not to use IE better!
[01:49] <dmcglone> I am bound and determined to do something about it too
[01:50] <Cheri703> dmcglone: if you need a set of ears to borrow, let me know, and I can call them for you and type to you
[01:50] <dmcglone> they cause me to have to rely on other people to get my business done
[01:50] <Cheri703> and/or I'll voice my displeasure as well
[01:50] <dmcglone> Cheri703: I appreciate that :-)
[01:50] <canthus13> Cheri703: Heh. there's one advantage over relay. :)
[01:50] <Cheri703> happy to
[01:50] <Cheri703> locorelay ;)
[01:51] <canthus13> Although, I had one poor relay interpreter that was pushed to the point of tears by the bitch of a woman that was insulting her directly over video relay...
[01:51] <Cheri703> ew, that's ridiculous
[01:51] <canthus13> Yeah.
[01:51] <dmcglone> It's funny how freakin easy it is to sign up for all that crap, but to access it is a different story
[01:52] <Cheri703> I wonder if you can work from home as a relay operator......HMMMM
[01:52] <dmcglone> I'm not sure, but have you seen them typwriters they have to use?
[01:52] <canthus13> Dunno, but I do know you have to be certified for most relay companies.
[01:53] <dmcglone> I had one in college
[01:53] <Cheri703> probably like a court recorder keyboard
[01:53] <canthus13> TTY?
[01:53] <canthus13> some of those things are freaky.
[01:53] <canthus13> I would think that most use regular computer keyboards now, though.
[01:53] <dmcglone> I'm not sure, but it's small and you have to hit key combo's to get 1 letter
[01:54] <canthus13> yeah. 3 rows of about 8 keys, IIRC.
[01:54] <canthus13> I haven't seen one in over 20 years, though.
[01:54] <Cheri703> close captioners have keyboards like court reporters
[01:54] <Cheri703> phonetic keys, not letter keys
[01:54] <Cheri703> something like that
[01:54] <dmcglone> the woman that did it for me in college, man she could type whole words with just 1 punch
[01:55] <canthus13> I don't know which is worse... closed captioners or the freaking voice recognition systems that are replacing them... :P
[01:55] <dmcglone> canthus13: the voice recog
[01:55]  * canthus13 gets complaints about the captioning all the time, like there's something WE can do about it.
[01:55] <dmcglone> lol
[01:55] <Cheri703> heh
[01:55] <dmcglone> I was going to watch a movie with my family tonight, but yup, no captioning
[01:56] <canthus13> the voice rec stuff really sucks for some of the morning news talk shows...
[01:56] <canthus13> It's like google's voicemail transcriptions.
[01:56] <dmcglone> Hmmm /me is wondering how deaf people would use VR
[01:57] <dmcglone> most deaf people don't have good voices
[01:57] <canthus13> dmcglone: Heh. I think google voice transcription would probably just give up and say 'no transcription available'.
[01:57] <dmcglone> yup.. LOL
[01:58] <dmcglone> or translate freddie into fuck me
[01:58] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:58] <canthus13> Heh.
[01:58] <canthus13> Some of the voicemails I get from my wife are freaking hilarious.
[01:58] <dmcglone> I can imagine
[01:58] <canthus13> but I suppose it'd be helpful for deaf folks receiving the voicemails...
[02:00] <dmcglone> dunno, I'm fortunate enough to be able to hear pretty darn well, I just have problems with foreign voices, and by that I don't just mean from other countries, but voices I've never heard
[02:01] <dmcglone> It's hard to explain. I often times have to know you to be able to speak to you on the phone
[02:01] <canthus13> Makes sense.
[02:01] <dmcglone> I can talk to my sisters and my mom and wife, but trying to talk to my brother on the phone is hell
[02:02] <canthus13> dmcglone: Different pitches.
[02:02] <dmcglone> I think because of the tone of his voice, his words run together too much
[02:02] <dmcglone> yeah
[02:04] <dmcglone> well canthus13 hopefully from all my bitchin tonight, you will have experience enough to keep the cable company you work for on the straight and narrow :-)
[02:05] <dmcglone> hopefully this experience has given you a new voice :-)
[02:07] <canthus13> dmcglone: Eh? We have a person dedicated solely to fielding captioning complaints. :P
[02:07] <canthus13> we do fairly well, although there is no elevator to get handicapped employees upstairs.
[02:07] <canthus13> ...But we have a wheelchair ramp. go figure.
[02:08] <dmcglone> What I'm saying is, someday you might hear the company say "were gonna do this" and you realize it's only gonna hurt people like me and you will speak up and say something :-)
[02:08] <canthus13> I usually do bring stuff up like that.
[02:08] <dmcglone> like TWC!
[02:09] <dmcglone> if they would just give me an option to get my customer code somehow without having to risk calling and having to hang up, I'd be happy
[02:09] <Cheri703> I called and couldn't get the code dmcglone, had to wait for the first bill
[02:09] <Cheri703> OR go in person
[02:10] <canthus13> But we've got a pretty decent track record for working with handicapped.
[02:10] <dmcglone> I really think I'll be going in person, because I think I need to find someone that I can voice my opinions to and hope for change
[02:10] <Cheri703> dmcglone: if you hear of any jobs that someone could do from home and are helping people with disabilities (any really) pass them on to me ;)
[02:10]  * Cheri703 has worked with VARIOUS people and truly enjoys helping :)
[02:11] <dmcglone> I sure will Cheri703
[02:11] <Cheri703> thanks :)
[02:11] <dmcglone> I've been debating whether I should get Video Phone for my home
[02:11] <Cheri703> no diapers though, so I won't do home health care stuff
[02:11] <Cheri703> my dad has "purple" to talk to his mom
[02:12] <dmcglone> Video Phone is free :-)
[02:12] <Cheri703> that works
[02:12] <canthus13> dmcglone: Dunno how the video phones are, but if you get a cap tel phone, make sure it's the 801 model. (I think.. the one that works with VoIP lines)
[02:13] <canthus13> 800i.
[02:13] <dmcglone> I completely forgot about TTY's
[02:13] <dmcglone> I'm so comfortabe using the internet for all my communication needs, I hardly have to use anything else
[02:14] <dmcglone> how weird.
[02:14] <dmcglone> the only hint of a deaf person living here is the telecaption on the tv
[02:15]  * Cheri703 watches tv with captioning
[02:15] <Cheri703> it drives me nuts watching downloaded stuff without it :(
[02:15] <dmcglone> it wasn't until last summer, I reunited with all my deaf friends
[02:15] <canthus13> dmcglone: I didn't know that TTYs still existed, honestly.
[02:16]  * canthus13 thought they kinda faded out with the advent of the internet...
[02:16] <dmcglone> yeah they do. they are even in hospitals
[02:16] <canthus13> dmcglone: Most hospitals have pay phones that only cost a dime.
[02:16] <dmcglone> well at least the few hospitals here I've been in
[02:16] <canthus13> ...and still have machines running win98.
[02:17] <dmcglone> weeeyow!
[02:17] <dmcglone> thats old
[02:17] <dmcglone> lol
[02:17] <canthus13> dmcglone: I still talk to a customer every once in a while that has Win98.
[02:17] <canthus13> it's depressing, really.
[02:17] <dmcglone> wow
[02:17] <dmcglone> I would say so
[02:18] <canthus13> they have the idea that a computer is like a car... (They don't build 'em like they used to!)
[02:18] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:18] <dmcglone> or houses for that matter
[02:18] <canthus13> It's funny to hear them refer to the computer as a '2001 model' or a '1997 model'
[02:18] <dmcglone> oh geez
[02:19] <dmcglone> you should ask em if it has a spoiler on it
[02:19] <dmcglone> spinners?
[02:19] <canthus13> heh.
[02:19] <dmcglone> holly carb?
[02:19] <canthus13> I had one crazy old nun the other day insist that I was wrong, and that she had faith that her computer would start working again without her needing to replace the obviously bad ethernet cable.
[02:20] <canthus13> Pray to St. Bill, I guess..
[02:20] <dmcglone> is she still waiting?
[02:21] <canthus13> I dunno. SHe's nuts, though.. yells at us on a regular basis.
[02:21] <dmcglone> lol
[02:21] <dmcglone> poor ol nun
[02:21] <dmcglone> they do no wrong
[02:21] <dmcglone> LMAO
[02:21] <dmcglone> I would love to have your job
[02:22] <canthus13> True.  Poor woman is retired, lives in a building full of college students.  You'd think she could bum an ethernet cable from one of them...
[02:22] <dmcglone> but I thought god would take care of it?
[02:22] <dmcglone> lol
[02:22] <Cheri703> so I really want to work from home
[02:22] <canthus13> Heh.  Another time she called, yelled at us because we wouldn't come fix her stuff.  The power had shorted out for half her apartment.
[02:23] <canthus13> Cheri703: Phone sex.
[02:23] <dmcglone> I don't blame you Cheri703
[02:23] <canthus13> that's work from home. :)
[02:23] <dmcglone> lol canthus13
[02:23] <canthus13> Funny as hell, too.
[02:23] <Cheri703> canthus13: considered it in the past, but I think I'd giggle. if it was typed chat, I'd consider more strongly
[02:24] <canthus13> Cheri703: Most of it these days is a combination... you reel them in with the chat, then get 'em on the phone.  Wife did it for a while. It's pretty bizarre.
[02:24] <dmcglone> Cheri703: stuff envelopes
[02:24] <Cheri703> eh, and papercuts are of the devil
[02:24] <dmcglone> thats why you wear thimbles
[02:24] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: Most envelope stuffing is a scam.. Phone sex is one of the few 'legitimate' work-at-home jobs. :/
[02:25] <dmcglone> Cheri703: sell cocain ;-)
[02:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: Gamecrush, if you're into gaming.
[02:25] <Cheri703> there are SOME work from home call center type jobs that are legit
[02:25] <dmcglone> start a meth lab
[02:25] <Cheri703> I'm going to be trying to get some dog training stuff going as well
[02:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: I know of one company that does support like that.. but you have to live in texas.
[02:26] <dmcglone> Cheri703: how about medical transcripting?
[02:26] <Cheri703> do you have to have special qualifications dmcglone ?
[02:26] <dmcglone> My sister does that
[02:26] <dmcglone> training for like 4 months
[02:26] <dmcglone> then you do it from home
[02:26] <Cheri703> interesting
[02:27] <dmcglone> you work your own hours too
[02:29] <canthus13> Cheri703: there's always online freelance tech support.
[02:29] <Cheri703> how so?
[02:30] <dmcglone> doctors will send you the papers they need transcribed and you transcribe them when you want, but there is a deadline, but it's not a tight one
[02:30] <Cheri703> as in, how would I go about doing that? *canthus
[02:30] <Cheri703> dmcglone: it looks like the training costs :(
[02:30] <canthus13> Bah. I'm trying to remember the name of the site, but there's a site you can advertise on, and set rates, and work with people via webcam/desktop sharing.
[02:30] <dmcglone> Cheri703: gov loan :-)
[02:31] <Cheri703> bah
[02:31] <Cheri703> no debt if possible
[02:31] <dmcglone> you do not have to pay back student aid loans
[02:31] <Cheri703> yes you do
[02:31] <Cheri703> grants, no, loans, yes
[02:31] <dmcglone> not certian grants
[02:32] <dmcglone> I'll be back in a bit
[02:35] <canthus13> bah. google turns up ...interesting... results. (Live video chat models, anyone?)
[02:35] <Cheri703> ha, no
[02:39] <canthus13> Cheri703: http://www.support.com/about/careers/locations/workfromhome
[02:41] <Cheri703> veeeeeerrrrry interesting
[02:41] <canthus13> Heck, I'm gonna keep an eye on them.
[02:42] <Cheri703> that's going on my list
[03:12] <canthus13> blargh.
[03:13] <Cheri703> blarghity blargh?
[03:13] <Unit193> D!!! WINDOWS!!!
[03:13] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:14] <canthus13> Cheri703: just tried the magic packet thing on my router again. It freaked out and clammed up on me. again.
[03:14] <Cheri703> :(
[03:14] <canthus13> It's odd behavior.  there's got to be a way to get it going. I'm going to try a hard reset later and see if I can enable it that way.
[03:14] <Cheri703> hmm....good luck, I don't know much about that
[03:15] <canthus13> That's ok.. I don't either. :D
[03:15]  * canthus13 is hoping to learn a little about it. :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> ah, always good
[03:23] <Unit193> You could just get some other router ;)
[03:29] <canthus13> Unit193: I have some other router. :)
[03:29] <canthus13> Netgear is interesting because by default it will answer on port 23, and then immediately drop the connection.
[03:29] <Cheri703> netgear = meh
[03:29] <canthus13> Supposedly, you can generate a magic packet that woull enable the telnet interface...
[03:30] <canthus13> Cheri703: Netgear is sluggish, but a solid performer for me. No problems with crashing.
[03:30] <canthus13> Belkin, otoh, sucks. Dlink is close behind.
[03:31] <Unit193> I have SSH on mine :)
[03:32] <Unit193> But it's not N
[03:33]  * canthus13 needs to install DD-WRT on his Linkshs...
[03:33] <canthus13> ...
[03:33] <canthus13> Linksys.
[03:33] <canthus13> (Linkskis?)
[03:33] <Unit193> Tomato won't fit? (or TomatoUSB)
[03:34] <canthus13> Not on a 300N, I don't think.
[03:35] <Unit193> Do you like Tomato, OpenWRT or DD-WRT best?
[03:37] <canthus13> I only have experience with DD-WRT.
[03:37] <canthus13> I believe Netgear uses OpenWRT on some of their routers, though.
[03:37] <Unit193> 300N v1?
[03:38] <canthus13> Umm.. 1.1
[03:38] <canthus13> big difference.
[03:39] <canthus13> no. wait. maybe it IS the v1.
[03:40] <Unit193> V1 works with TomatoUSB
[03:40] <canthus13> Huh. I might take a look at it again. I'm having problems finding any useful info about tomato. the site seems rather bare.
[03:41] <Unit193> Tomato or TomatoUSB?
[03:42] <canthus13> Tomato.
[03:43]  * canthus13 checking out TomatoUSB's page now.
[03:43] <Unit193> I have only used Tomato
[03:44] <Unit193> canthus13: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware
[03:46] <Unit193> Teddy Bear = TomatoUSB
[03:48]  * canthus13 wonders if you could install NFS in TomatoUSB...
[03:50] <Unit193> http://www.xtremecoders.org/forums/f78/tomato-optware-package-valerakvb-ver-11-4-a-169/
[03:50] <Unit193> ^ Might have it
[03:53] <canthus13> Actually, I may wait 'til I pick up a 350N. I need the gigabit interface...
[03:56] <Unit193> Too late?:http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?s=ac3ac8c4840e8bfd58d8728433532a14&p=29144836&postcount=83
[03:58] <canthus13> Eh? Oh. I know how to set up NFS. that's all I use.. NO need for Samba on a pure linux network. :)
[04:01] <Unit193> That was a post about Tomato(USB)
[04:02] <canthus13> Ah.
[04:03]  * canthus13 is looking for a router he can upgrade.  Something he can cram at least 256MB ram into, preferably 512.