[02:51] <oiaohm>  right anyone in here had any dealing with xubuntu 10.10 and ipw2200 driver and got it to work.  If so you did want.
[02:52] <oiaohm> The driver is failing to load firmware
[03:01] <bazhang> no wireless signal / connection?
[03:02] <bazhang> the drivers are kernel level at this point
[03:13] <oiaohm> dmesg tells me it will not load its firmware.
[03:13] <oiaohm> Its not getting to the lack of signal point.
[03:13] <oiaohm> -1 error
[03:21] <oiaohm> Annoying I had to bring this laptop up to speed in 24 hours
[03:24] <oiaohm> I am not completely without wireless I do have a pccard.
[07:01] <head_victim> Good afternoon, I will be attending a conference locally here in Australia and I was hoping to loop some promotional videos to showcase Ubuntu. To this end I was wondering if such a video exists for Xubuntu?
[08:01] <Ycarene> Does linux bundle TCP Acks in pairs like windows/bsd does?
[08:05] <psycho_oreos> you might want to ask that in ##linux instead
[08:54] <Ycarene> Yeah, I got no answer there.
[08:56] <bazhang> sounds like an issue for ##networking
[09:37] <Psilocybin_Elf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCXuqndYDPI
[09:37] <Psilocybin_Elf> ooops, wrong channel sorry
[13:18] <bladethefox> hellp
[13:18] <bladethefox> hello
[18:31] <josh2> how do I get a SD Memory card to mount on boot?
[19:36] <fdsaseemslegit> Hello everyone.
[19:36] <fdsaseemslegit> Anyone here testing Natty?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> yes, but support is in #ubuntu+1 for natty
[19:38] <Sysi> it has nice new xfce but it's develepment version (and what charlie said)
[19:38] <fdsaseemslegit> charlie-tca: What do you think of it and do you think they will release the 2.6.38 to us?
[19:39] <fdsaseemslegit> Not looking for support in the wrong spot.
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I think it is going to be very good, and will wait to see if they can put the .38 kernel in. According to what I have seen, it is not coming out until April or May, which is too late for natty
[19:40] <fdsaseemslegit> I have been waiting since there is already a release client.  I was hoping to be bleeding edge with the alpha. :(
[19:41] <Sysi> debian philosophy
[19:41] <fdsaseemslegit> :|
[19:41] <charlie-tca> bleeding edge ain't really all that usable
[19:42] <fdsaseemslegit> It makes the issues more obvious though.  I don't mind fixing stuff.
[19:42] <fdsaseemslegit> With a Distro as widely used as Xubuntu,  the more info the better.  I can be patient though.  I was just hoping.
[19:42] <charlie-tca> I would prefer a working image, versus bleeding edge broken image
[19:43] <charlie-tca> Have you installed natty?
[19:43] <charlie-tca> We are not yet to alpha2, it is pretty bleeding at times
[19:43] <fdsaseemslegit> Well if it breaks ,  either quick fix or revert and cross fingers.  I have nothing on this partition but alpha/beta software.
[19:44] <fdsaseemslegit> True,  I have already found a few things.  only upgrading through command line since the update manager daemon is borked right now.  >:(
[19:45] <charlie-tca> update-manager worked fine here this morning
[19:45] <Sysi> always used apt-get
[19:46] <fdsaseemslegit> Well,  it works once per boot. :D
[19:46] <charlie-tca> I try update-manager weekly, to see if it works
[19:46] <Sysi> i really miss aptitude, i maybe should file a bug about not getting it to work
[19:46] <charlie-tca> daily I use apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:46] <fdsaseemslegit> I prefer apt-get,  but I must test EVERYTHING
[19:47] <Sysi> (i mean missing it on ubuntu, yum is waay nicer to use)
[19:48] <fdsaseemslegit> I really have a habit of letting them dictate what goes on this machine,  in an effort to allow them the most information from my system profile.
[19:48] <fdsaseemslegit> If something is broke,  then they know why?
[19:49] <fdsaseemslegit> Hopefully.
[19:49] <josh2> how do I get a SD card to mount on boot?
[19:49] <fdsaseemslegit> I only have experience really with yast,  and apt.  My first linux distro was Knoppix live cd
[19:50] <danostone> hello
[19:50] <fdsaseemslegit> josh2: unetbootin and your machine must allow it thru BIOS
[19:50] <danostone> simple question
[19:50] <charlie-tca> !ask | danostone
[19:50] <danostone> I dont see disc 2 when doing df
[19:50] <josh2> fdsaseemslegit: I am using the sd card as storage, I need it to mount in my currently running xubuntu
[19:51] <danostone> charlie-tca calm down I just type as I speak sorry
[19:51] <fdsaseemslegit> josh2:  I read your question wrong :\,
[19:52] <charlie-tca> nothing to calm down about. you asked if you could ask a question, I got you an answer.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> Wouldn't it be better not to ask if you can ask?
[19:52] <fdsaseemslegit> ^
[19:52] <josh2> fsaseemslegit: I am just looking for a way to make the card be automounted on boot, I have it set to mount memory cards when hot plugged, but that doesn't mount it on boot, all my music is on the memory card so I want it to automount
[19:53] <Sysi> josh2: add it to /etc/fstab
[19:53] <Sysi> gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[19:53] <danostone> ^above ? 'simple question is a statement the question followed in the next sentence are you a bot?
[19:53] <Sysi> blkid on terminal lists volumes and uuid:s
[19:54] <fdsaseemslegit> You still have yet to ask it,  danostone.
[19:54] <josh2> Sysi: what do I add to fstab?
[19:54] <charlie-tca> danostone: your question followed after I gave the information about asking
[19:55] <charlie-tca> and I don't really see a question anywhere. I see a statement that disc 2 is not seen when doing df. What is the question?
[19:55] <Sysi> josh2: new line, looking pretty similar to what's already there
[19:55] <danostone> I dont see disc 2 using df -h
[19:55] <danostone> why wouldn't I?
[19:55] <josh2> Sysi: Any documentation on what I need to add in that line?
[19:55] <fdsaseemslegit> You have your eyes closed.
[19:55] <Sysi> josh2: blkid tells you uuid:s of devices
[19:55] <danostone> good
[19:55] <fdsaseemslegit> :D
[19:56] <Sysi> fdsaseemslegit: proper ansvers please
[19:56] <Sysi> danostone: is it mounted?
[19:56] <fdsaseemslegit> Sorry,  danostone.
[19:56] <danostone> obviously not in this install it seems
[19:57] <danostone> so mount uuid or ?
[19:57] <Sysi> if you want it to be mounted always on boot, fstab
[19:57] <charlie-tca> danostone: have you been able to use the disc 2 at all in Xubuntu?
[19:58] <charlie-tca> danostone: as in, have you tried manually mounting it ?
[19:58] <danostone> yes it has fedora on lvm
[19:58] <charlie-tca> Is there anything in /media for it?
[19:58] <danostone> man mount discusses that correct
[19:59] <charlie-tca> yes, man mount does.
[19:59] <charlie-tca> !mount
[19:59] <danostone> yes it looks like several ports need a path
[20:00] <fdsaseemslegit> Maybe /dev would have the information
[20:02] <fdsaseemslegit> I have yet yo have a mounting problem,  I have two other partitions,  one ntfs then other reiserfs ,  I also have no problems detecting and mounting an esata external HDD,  and a USB IDE External HDD.  My card reader clot also works great in Natty.
[20:02] <fdsaseemslegit> I am very happy.
[20:03] <Sysi> i think lvm partitions are something like /dev/mapper/something
[20:03] <Sysi> never used it so not very sure
[21:06] <craigbass1976> whenever I do something even remotely graphics heavy, x goes into convulsions.  I thought there was some keywoard shortcut that would restart x, or will that not work because x is having such a fit in the first place?
[21:08] <charlie-tca> magicSysRq is the thing left, and it shuts down and restarts X, losing all work
[21:08] <charlie-tca> On my keyboard, it is    Ctrl+Alt+PrintScn+k
[21:08] <craigbass1976> Actually, /etc/init.d/x11-common restart didn't help either.  Perhaps it's a flakey video card... but if I reboot it will be fine
[21:09] <craigbass1976> charlie-tca: magicSysRq ?
[21:09] <charlie-tca> yup, that's what it is referred to as
[21:09] <craigbass1976> charlie-tca: and is you're xubuntu install stock?  I've not customized anything on this box that I can remember
[21:10] <charlie-tca> yes, but they removed the Ctrl+Alt+backspace to restart X a few releases ago
[21:10] <Sysi> i think common key combination is altGr+printscrn+K
[21:10] <craigbass1976> but would the /etc/init.d command have done the same thing?
[21:11] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I just know what works here
[21:31] <danostone> doing 'ls /dev/disk/by-id/label' I can see all of the partitions but not sure label to uuid combo check (anyone ?)
[21:32] <Sysi> try 'blkid'
[21:34] <danostone> not sure blkid ? in dev/disk/~ I have by-id  by-label  by-path  by-uuid
[21:34] <Sysi> blkid is command
[21:35] <danostone> do I need to pipe it ?
[21:35] <danostone> returns nothing
[21:35] <danostone> man blkid
[21:36] <Sysi> for me it lists all partitions, labels and uuids
[21:36] <Sysi> maybe with sudo?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> look in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[21:36] <charlie-tca> You can use ls -l to list them
[21:36] <danostone> ahh and oops
[21:37] <danostone> so /dev/disk/by-{label,uuid} means either or
[21:38] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:46] <skiwithpete> hi
[21:46] <skiwithpete> so...
[21:51] <skiwithpete> I want to start xfce when I type in startx at prompt
[21:51] <skiwithpete> but it currently starts LXDE - any suggestions?
[21:51] <Sysi> edit ~/.xsessionrc
[21:52] <Sysi> or something pretty similarly named file
[21:53] <skiwithpete> I have Xauthority
[21:53] <skiwithpete> is that the one?
[21:54] <Sysi> i doubt
[21:54] <Sysi> it could use global one too
[21:54] <skiwithpete> where will I find that?
[21:55] <Sysi> i guess /usr/share/xsessions/
[21:55] <Sysi> idk where it gets the default
[21:56] <skiwithpete> no
[21:56] <skiwithpete> no luck
[21:57] <charlie-tca> did you install xubuntu-desktop? I don't know if Lubuntu/whatever you installed had all the files in it
[21:57] <Sysi> my router stucked, googling is a bit slow..
[22:00] <Sysi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Running_Xfce
[22:00] <Sysi> i'm not sure if cklauch is needed on buntu
[22:01] <Besogon> skiwithpete, http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/
[22:02] <Besogon> look may be there you will find your answer
[22:13] <skiwithpete> Besogon, nice one
[22:15] <danostone> question - what do I need to in mtab or fstab ?
[22:16] <Besogon> fstab is the file which let you automount partitions at boot up
[22:19] <danostone> to have will it work if one is ext3 and the other is ext4 or does it matter?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> danostone: create a mount point (directory) first, then in /etc/fstab, you can copy a line that exists.
[22:19] <charlie-tca> it should be something like :
[22:20] <charlie-tca> UUID=d5f37d0b-73b3-4080-b410-9ee47639907e /mount/point ext3    defaults        0       2
[22:21] <charlie-tca> ext3 is the filesystem, which might be fat32 or fat16 instead
[22:22] <danostone> /dev/sdb3: LABEL="Fedora-13-x86_64" UUID="4330a9c7-cec0-44el-82cb-llllll
[22:22] <charlie-tca> I create my directories in /mnt, but you can create them anywhere
[22:22] <charlie-tca> using that, create a directory using     sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora
[22:23] <charlie-tca> then in /etc/fstab,
[22:23] <danostone> like that not sure what the second line is there
[22:23] <danostone> ext3    defaults        0       2
[22:23] <charlie-tca> UUID=4330a9c7-cec0-44el-82cb-llllll /mnt/Fedora ext3    defaults        0       2
[22:23] <charlie-tca> It should be a single line, no breaks
[22:24] <danostone> ok what is the defaults   0   2
[22:24] <charlie-tca> ext3 is the filesystem,     fat, ext4, ext2, etc
[22:25] <charlie-tca> the    defaults are to allow use as the system is set up for
[22:25] <charlie-tca> 0      2     are when to run fscheck
[22:25] <charlie-tca> That schedules the fsck to run perodically. If it should not check the drive, make it    0        0
[22:29] <danostone> add to end or before swap uuid
[22:29] <charlie-tca> It does not make any difference. Boot sequence will be determined during the boot
[22:39] <danostone> well let me reboot
[22:43] <danostone> so no warkee
[22:51] <charlie-tca> open a terminal and try "sudo mount -a" and see what the error is
[22:52] <danostone> no moint point
[22:52] <danostone> mount: mount point ext4 does not exist
[22:53] <charlie-tca> did you type everything on one line?
[22:53] <charlie-tca> What program did you use to edit the fstab file?
[22:54] <danostone> gedit
[22:54] <charlie-tca> gedit works
[22:54] <charlie-tca> was everything on one line, or did you make it two lines?
[22:54] <danostone> the mount point comes after uuid
[22:55] <danostone> two mounts
[22:55] <charlie-tca> yes, but if you have a line like
[22:55] <danostone> two partitions
[22:55] <charlie-tca> ext4    0    0
[22:55] <charlie-tca> then you have it looking for a mount point ext4
[22:55] <danostone> no didnt do that
[22:56] <charlie-tca> It has to be a single line, which should be UUID=???  space   /mount/point
[22:56] <danostone> yes but its on a different disk
[22:56] <charlie-tca> the mount point?
[22:56] <danostone> the uuid
[22:56] <charlie-tca> it doesn't matter
[22:57] <Sysi> linux don't have thing like C: and D: just partitions, can be on different disks or anywhere
[22:57] <charlie-tca> The error was "mount point ext4 does not exist" ?
[22:57] <charlie-tca> that error tells me the line was something like UUID=??? ext4
[22:58] <charlie-tca> did you space between /mount/point  and ext4?
[22:59] <charlie-tca> Sysi: should we have fstab pasted now?
[22:59] <charlie-tca> danostone: pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[22:59] <Sysi> at least that one line
[22:59] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[22:59] <danostone> no mount point then etx4
[23:00] <Sysi> you need to have the mount point
[23:00] <Sysi> folder where you want it
[23:01] <danostone> http://fpaste.org/nrGY/
[23:02] <charlie-tca> You did not create the mount points
[23:02] <charlie-tca> you have to create a directory to be used, maybe
[23:02] <danostone> ok where or what todo where
[23:03] <charlie-tca> something like     /mnt/sdb2
[23:03] <charlie-tca> then put that after the uuid, before the ext4
[23:03] <danostone> that needs created
[23:03] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:04] <charlie-tca> or maybe you want it in /home/sdb2      or whatever name you want to call the drive
[23:04] <charlie-tca> you have to create one for each partition you are trying to mount
[23:06] <danostone> so even though the device can be seen /dev/disk/by-uuid I should create a hard link?
[23:06] <charlie-tca> no
[23:06] <charlie-tca> you should create a directory where you will look to see the device
[23:06] <charlie-tca> You can call it anything you want
[23:07] <charlie-tca> You do not create a link, you use    "mkdir ???
[23:07] <charlie-tca> to create a new directory for the device to be seen in
[23:08] <charlie-tca> You said one of those entries was music, right?
[23:08] <danostone> no
[23:08] <charlie-tca> sorry, mixed up
[23:09] <danostone> so can the mount point be in the /dev/disk as mentioned before
[23:10] <charlie-tca> nope
[23:10] <charlie-tca> You create it outside of /dev
[23:10] <charlie-tca> like /mnt
[23:10] <charlie-tca> or in /honme
[23:10] <danostone> lol lol
[23:10] <charlie-tca> or in /home
[23:10] <charlie-tca> or /media
[23:10] <charlie-tca> but dev is not usable by you
[23:11] <danostone> I just want to mount when I need access to a file
[23:12] <charlie-tca> then create in /home
[23:12] <danostone> not have it mounted all the time
[23:12] <charlie-tca> then why are you adding it to fstab?
[23:12] <charlie-tca> fstab entries are always mounted on boot
[23:12] <danostone> because of mount error
[23:13] <charlie-tca> open a terminal
[23:13] <charlie-tca> type       sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb2
[23:13] <danostone> several open
[23:13] <charlie-tca> What is the second partition?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> You show two things added to fstab
[23:15] <danostone> both on sdb
[23:15] <charlie-tca> They are what? sdb2 and sdb1?
[23:15] <charlie-tca> sdb2 and sdb3?
[23:15] <danostone> like sdb2 and 11?
[23:15] <charlie-tca> sdb2 and sdb11?
[23:16] <charlie-tca> did you this       sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb2
[23:16] <danostone> so I have to create a mount dir in order to mount a fs
[23:16] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:17] <charlie-tca> and add the mount point to fstab after the UUID
[23:17] <danostone> so remove the fstab entries though
[23:18] <charlie-tca> if you don't want them mounted at startup, yes
[23:24] <danostone> restart and I will let ya know
[23:29] <danostone> does not work
[23:29] <charlie-tca> did you create the directory yet?
[23:30] <danostone> ci yes
[23:30] <charlie-tca> okay, what did not work?
[23:30] <danostone> mount uuid
[23:31] <charlie-tca> you removed the /etc/fstab entries, right?
[23:32] <danostone> not yet but I dont follow this method very well
[23:32] <charlie-tca> okay, what are the new directories?
[23:34] <danostone> /home/user/bakery /home/user/cake
[23:34] <danostone> the dirctories are there
[23:34] <charlie-tca> in a terminal, type      sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /home/user/bakery
[23:36] <danostone> ok now that makes sense
[23:36] <charlie-tca> if it did not give you an error, you can now browse /home/user/bakery in thunar and see what is on sdb2
[23:37] <charlie-tca> You will type that sudo mount command everytime you want to see those files
[23:37] <danostone> had gotten used to the bookmark calling for the password
[23:37] <charlie-tca> you use      sudo mount /dev/sdb11 /home/user/cake
[23:38] <charlie-tca> to mount and look at the sdb11 files
[23:38] <danostone> gimme a sec . im slow
[23:42] <danostone> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:42] <charlie-tca> for both, or for which one?
[23:43] <danostone> both
[23:44] <danostone> both ext4
[23:44] <charlie-tca> then use    sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sbd2 /home/user/bakery
[23:46] <danostone> both ext4 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error     In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:46] <charlie-tca> Are these lvm?
[23:47] <danostone> one
[23:47] <danostone> said that earlier
[23:47] <charlie-tca> but they both fail when you tell it ext4. Do they both have data on them already?
[23:48] <danostone> yes and dmesg tail returnsEXT4-fs (sdb2): unable to read superblock
[23:49] <charlie-tca> is that the lvm volume?
[23:49] <danostone> yes
[23:50] <charlie-tca> what returns on the other one?
[23:59] <danostone> charlie-tca how do i see which dev sdb each is?