[03:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: are you in the year 2107 yet?
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[03:32] <jjesse_> that was wierd
[03:32] <jjesse_> sorry
[10:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: 2107 is all sorts of gone ..... im in 2200
[11:21] <apparle> What is the shortcut to toggle the menu bar
[11:27] <shadeslayer> apparle: Ctrl+M
[11:27] <apparle> shadeslayer: sorry, I mean for gtk apps running in kde
[11:28] <shadeslayer> oh no idea .. 
[11:50] <markey> Riddell: apachelogger:
[11:50] <markey> http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok.git/commit/0a640155c93868d7e6e6518f7879c68979506e21
[11:50] <markey> you might want to include this patch, after some testing
[11:50] <markey> fixes the stupid crashing with Phonon-VLC
[11:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i opened up http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610855
[17:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: mgraesslin mgraesslin yofel
[17:10] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: yes?
[17:10] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: #project-neon if your free ;)
[17:10] <yofel> sec
[17:12] <yofel> mgraesslin: I tried to set XDG_CONFIG_DIR to $KDEHOME/config so akonadi stores it's settings there instead of ~/.config/akonadi - but If I do that, I get "KWin: The library /opt/project-neon/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not a KWin plugin." - I set it before running startkde
[17:15] <markey> could someone please provide a package for the latest Phonon release, for Maverick?
[17:15] <markey> I can't build Phonon-VLC without it...
[17:16] <markey> due to the changes that apachelogger made
[17:16] <markey> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/phonon-family-4-4-4/
[17:16] <markey> ^ this
[17:17] <markey> and I need to build Phonon-VLC, to test for errors with Amarok
[17:17] <shadeslayer> so the one we have in neon is 2011/01/17 :P
[17:17] <shadeslayer> i wonder why we dont have a newer build ...
[17:18] <yofel> because nothing was changed?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> no ...
[17:18] <shadeslayer> 2449. By Trever Fischer <wm161@wm161.net> 19 hours ago
[17:18] <yofel> yep, that's less than 24h ;)
[17:19] <yofel> well, probably just missed the recipe run
[17:19] <shadeslayer> 2447. By Trever Fischer <wm161@wm161.net> on 2011-01-12
[17:21] <yofel> yep, and on timestamp: Sun 2011-01-16 14:28:00 +0100 I modified debian/
[17:21] <yofel> that's where the /17 build comes from
[17:22] <shadeslayer> so it builds when we modify our packaging?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> isnt that .... wrong
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ideally ... it should build whenever the source changes
[17:23] <yofel> erm... no? Or do you want to rebuild manually each time you add a new dep or build-dep ?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: no i mean.. it should build whenever phonon sources change
[17:23] <yofel> it rebuilds when *one* of the branches in the recipe is changed
[17:23] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:23] <yofel> doesn't matter which
[17:25] <yofel> essentially LP doesn't know what a branch contains, so you could have a dozen source code branches nested in a recipe, since it doesn't know what they do it has to rebuild once one of them changes
[17:26] <yofel> (that's why we need {revno:packaging} in our version in the first place)
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:27] <shadeslayer> makes sense now
[18:38]  * shadeslayer jumps up and down
[18:42] <Riddell> mm?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mail
[18:49] <Riddell> oh, my mail is broken today, pesky russian hackers
[18:50] <shadeslayer> :S
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-January/004965.html
[18:50] <shadeslayer> interesting
[18:50] <shadeslayer> i wrote a very long email
[18:51] <shadeslayer> i dont write that much :P
[18:52] <Riddell> yay
[18:52] <Riddell> should this be announced to KDE too?
[18:52] <shadeslayer> no! 
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: pre-alpha
[18:52] <shadeslayer> only for developers :D
[18:52] <neversfelde> bug 706409
[18:53] <neversfelde> so what is our policy, do we merge and sync whenever it is possible?
[18:53] <Riddell> well it's neon, of course it's only for developers
[18:53] <neversfelde> or only in the beginning of each cycle?
[18:53] <Riddell> neversfelde: whatever is least work (in my opinion)
[18:54] <neversfelde> Riddell: yes, sounds good and in this case I think it is quite important to keep the changelog
[18:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: this is a QA check .... to make sure we didnt miss any bugs ...
[18:55] <shadeslayer> then after the QA we open alpha in public ;)
[19:07] <neversfelde> mhh, amarok tells me to install extra packages, it fails for several reasons and feedback is installation complete 
[19:07] <neversfelde> it's natty
[19:09] <yofel> if dpkg --configure -a configures libc-bin that's bug 680328
[19:10] <neversfelde> yofel: yep, it's not the problem with not installing the packages it's the feedback
[19:10] <neversfelde> installation complete is obviously wrong
[19:10] <yofel> right..
[19:10] <yofel> JontheEchidna: ^
[19:19] <markey> apachelogger: good news: the new VLC release today will fix the stupid File Selector issue
[19:20] <markey> but man, that was a fight
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yayy
[19:20] <markey> I had to convince the dude from VLC to do it, and Jim Beam finally did it, I think
[19:20]  * shadeslayer hugs markey
[19:20] <markey> that other guy was extremely stubborn
[19:20] <markey> "cormush" or somesuch
[19:20] <markey> he plain refused to do anything
[19:28] <yofel> that one minute timeout?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> yeah
[19:29] <yofel> \o/
[21:18] <Quintasan> yofel, apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8908
[21:23] <Quintasan> yofel, shadeslayer: new KDevelop
[21:37] <Quintasan> apachelogger: disregard that
[21:38] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Who can add me to kubuntu-dev, only Riddell?
[21:38] <apachelogger> I did
[21:38] <Quintasan> apachelogger: good, since I checked wrong release for package and I only need to update it
[21:38] <apachelogger> still I will disregard it :P
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: I think so
[21:39]  * apachelogger is tired and preparing for bed
[21:39] <Quintasan> apachelogger: go to hell..err  I mean bed :P
[21:39] <apachelogger> Quintasan, JontheEchidna: jr and the DMB
[21:42] <JontheEchidna> neversfelde: it says "Package installation finished with errors." for me
[22:10] <Quintasan> good night
[22:39] <apachelogger> when is UDS again?
[22:39] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: probably May 2011
[22:39] <apachelogger> more precisely I mean
[22:39]  * apachelogger is looking for gigs to attend
[22:56] <ulysses> between 5th and 9th May I guess, in Budapest
[22:56] <ulysses> nope, may 9-13.
[22:56] <ulysses> http://identi.ca/notice/57675884
[22:57] <ulysses> apachelogger: 
[22:57] <apachelogger> budapest only has crappy gigs
[22:57] <apachelogger> horrible
[22:57] <apachelogger> but faithless is playing in march
[22:57] <apachelogger> why is uds not in march?
[22:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: do you think we can get the release schedule changed?
[23:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: No.  Sorry.
[23:52] <afiestas> I've installed ubuntu-desktop, after took a look at it I remove it by executin apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <afiestas> and now, kdm is not started by default and I have a looooot of packages which I don't want :/
[23:53] <afiestas> any tip?
[23:53] <yofel> !purekde
[23:53] <yofel> as for kdm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[23:57] <afiestas> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop tries to remove kde stuff
[23:57] <afiestas> (I'm using 11.04)