[00:00] <paultag> I think we have different views on what a bug is, but your view is not wrong at all, I can see it
[00:00] <paultag> I just think if the user even thinks about it, it's a bug
[00:00] <paultag> it's a failure of the program to provide the correct behavior
[00:00] <doctormo> well yes, but sometimes the issues are weird, like "The buttons are on the left" or "I can't find the expload laptop button"
[00:00] <paultag> truth
[00:01] <doctormo> issues are as much opinion and statistics can gadge user opinion
[00:01] <doctormo> I foresee the usefullness in statistics mostly, sometimes we'll see corilations and look into it.
[00:01] <doctormo> I want this installed an enabled by defult on alpha/beta/rc
[00:02] <paultag> mmm
[00:02] <doctormo> Then we'll just make it easy to make bugs out of issues, maybe even in the ui somewhere
[00:02] <paultag> doctormo: idealy, it'd be on the same system
[00:03] <paultag> doctormo: so that you can "convert" them back and forth
[00:11] <doctormo> paultag: hmm?
[00:11] <paultag> nothing, no matter
[00:17] <doctormo> ok
[01:23] <jcastro> Technoviking: ping
[04:06] <Technoviking> jcastro: pong
[04:07] <jcastro> hi mike
[04:07] <jcastro> I sent you a mail instead
[04:10] <jcastro> Technoviking: ^
[04:13] <Technoviking> jcastro: done
[04:19] <jcastro> Technoviking: is the bug report relevant still?
[04:20] <jcastro> hmm, appears so
[04:21] <Technoviking> I beleive there is work to get many of the Mactel fixes into Natty
[04:21] <jcastro> ok refresh
[04:21] <jcastro> how's that look?
[04:22] <jcastro> you can safely delete your comment now
[04:22] <jcastro> high 5
[04:22] <jcastro> teamwork, etc.
[04:23] <jcastro> paultag: you can learn alot from Technoviking
[04:23] <jcastro> first off, he's not from ohio
[04:23] <jcastro> they know about teamwork there
[04:27] <Technoviking> ;)
[04:27] <jcastro> lame
[04:27] <jcastro> he didn't take the bait
[04:27] <jcastro> nice work on the answer
[04:28] <jcastro> I still need to follow up with you to get this illustrator dude
[04:28] <jcastro> I think I should move to this illustrated avatar thing
[04:29] <Technoviking> I love mine, need to remove most of the hair though;)
[04:29] <jcastro> that was a friend of yours iirc who did yours?
[04:29] <jcastro> maybe i should get one done for me and jill at the same time
[04:30] <Technoviking> I will asked him if he would do it
[04:31] <Technoviking> it just move to NYC to work for a new firm as a graphical astist
[04:31] <Technoviking> artist
[04:31] <paultag> jcastro: alot's not english
[04:31] <jcastro> lol
[04:31] <paultag> jcastro: michigan'd be proud
[04:31] <jcastro> paultag returns!
[04:32] <paultag> jcastro: it's a lot, damnit
[04:32] <paultag> jcastro: howdy!
[04:32] <jcastro> http://www.neatorama.com/2011/01/21/batman-vs-the-internet/
[04:32] <jcastro> ^^ thinking of paultag
[04:32] <paultag> if my internet sucked a bit less, I could read it and say something witty
[04:32] <paultag> give me a minute to load this sucker
[04:32] <paultag> Ohio internet, you know
[04:32] <paultag> Hahahaha, that's great jcastro
[04:37] <paultag> jcastro: I had something to say to you yesterday, but I totally forget what it was
[04:46] <jcastro> paultag: I remember what it was
[04:47] <jcastro> "man, you're so awesome, and I'm just some punk from ohio, go spartans."
[04:47] <jcastro> something like that?
[04:55] <paultag> jcastro: hahaha
[04:55] <paultag> jcastro: oh yeah, that was it
[04:57] <paultag> jcastro: dude i was hung over so bad all day
[04:57] <paultag> so bad
[05:28] <evilvish> jcastro: hey.. is chris cheney still working at canonical?
[05:28]  * evilvish wondering who is looking after LibO right now..
[05:54] <JanC> evilvish: there is a PPA from the people working on it
[05:55] <JanC> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[05:56] <evilvish> JanC: k.. i was hoping to get in touch with the person in-charge right now..  (chris cheney was maintainer of OOo) not sure if he is still around
[05:56] <JanC> seems like it's mostly doko
[05:57] <evilvish> ah!
[05:57] <JanC> at least, he does teh uploads  ;)
[06:00] <JanC> evilvish: also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032298.html
[06:02] <evilvish> hmm, there was a job call for a new LibO maintainer.. maybe doko took the position..
[06:03] <JanC> in that mail he says he started working on it after he got a skiing accident or something and was bored
[06:03] <evilvish> yea..
[15:50] <jcastro> evilvish: there's a new guy being hired afaict
[15:51] <czajkowski> jcastro: aloha
[15:57] <jcastro> hi2u!
[19:57] <paultag> jcastro: can you get one of the archive admins to process this? --LP #703718
[19:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 703718 in fluxconf "Requesting removal of source package `fluxconf' from Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703718
[19:57] <paultag> jcastro: it's a real pain in my side
[19:58] <czajkowski> paultag: ello
[19:58] <paultag> heyya czajkowski :)
[19:58] <czajkowski> all good ?
[19:59] <paultag> czajkowski: yes ma'am!
[19:59] <czajkowski> excellent
[19:59] <paultag> czajkowski: it's fluxbox day for me, I am about to squash about 10 RC bugs for Debian on the next upload
[20:00] <czajkowski> cool
[20:01] <paultag> only thing is this damn fluxconf
[20:02] <paultag> I had it removed from Debian :)
[20:02] <czajkowski> eh ?
[20:02] <paultag> now I have to wait for Ubuntu, a bit backwards ;)
[20:02] <jcastro> I don't have those kind of cow powers paultag
[20:02] <paultag> jcastro: nah, but you know who does ;)
[20:02] <paultag> jcastro: it's been pissing us off for like 2 years now ;)
[20:03] <czajkowski> paultag: jcastro any idea mate in #ubuntu-uk having issues http://paste.ubuntu.com/557340/
[20:03] <jcastro> the ticket is like only a few days old?
[20:03] <paultag> jcastro: yeah, because I thought Ubuntu would remove a package if Debian did
[20:03] <jcastro> Yeah but we're past freeze I think?
[20:03] <jcastro> I don't think it's automagic anymore
[20:03] <paultag> ugh, damn.
[20:04] <paultag> jcastro: it was removed pre natty
[20:04] <jcastro> oh
[20:04] <paultag> jcastro: 9-2010
[20:04] <jcastro> czajkowski: no clue, sound is a black box to me
[20:04] <czajkowski> jcastro: any idea which channel or person I can get to poke and ask ?
[20:04] <jcastro> paultag: bug an archive admin tomorrow i guess?
[20:04] <paultag> jcastro: I have no idea who to talk to, I'm not MOTU :)
[20:05] <czajkowski> we lost our ubuntu-ie.org domain
[20:05] <paultag> czajkowski: whoh whoh whoh, what?
[20:05] <paultag> czajkowski: no idea on that paste, sorry :(
[20:05] <czajkowski> renewal didnt kick in
[20:05] <jcastro> czajkowski: dtchen, but he's not on irc often these days
[20:05] <czajkowski> ok
[20:05] <czajkowski> jcastro: thanks
[20:05] <jcastro> paultag: just ask in -devel tomorrow when people are around
[20:06] <paultag> jcastro: I got told to wait, but Iknow how these things goe
[20:06] <paultag> go *
[20:08] <paultag> jcastro: cheers, thanks
[20:15] <czajkowski> paultag: busy ?
[20:15] <paultag> czajkowski: no ma'am, whatcha have in mind?
[20:15] <czajkowski> mumble in a bit ?
[20:16] <paultag> czajkowski: sure!
[20:16] <czajkowski> see if we can nab popey
[20:16] <czajkowski> say 9 ?
[20:16] <czajkowski> as in 45 mins time ?
[20:16] <paultag> czajkowski: sounds great, I'll be here
[20:16] <czajkowski> okie dokie
[20:16] <czajkowski> paultag: will send a mail around
[20:17] <paultag> roger doger
[20:17] <czajkowski> done
[20:18] <paultag> czajkowski: great, got it, thanks!
[20:19] <czajkowski> np
[20:52] <nigelb> jcastro: hey
[20:53] <nigelb> jcastro: were you able to confirm Dbo for us?
[22:32] <jcastro> yeah he'll be there