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| AnAnt | Hello, can someone help me with this FTBFS: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62644475/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-powerpc.verilator_3.810-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:10 |
| AnAnt | I am getting the same FTBFS on Debian sparc | 07:10 |
| micahg | AnAnt: just looks like it's trying to remove a file that's not there | 07:11 |
| AnAnt | micahg: ?! | 07:11 |
| AnAnt | micahg: what file ? | 07:12 |
| micahg | it's trying to remove a .exe file for some reason | 07:12 |
| AnAnt | micahg: that happens on all archs, but does not cause the FTBFS | 07:13 |
| AnAnt | https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=verilator;ver=3.810-1;arch=powerpc;stamp=1295690749 | 07:13 |
| AnAnt | personally I was suspecting something like toolchain difference | 07:14 |
| micahg | oh sorry, didn't see the next break | 07:15 |
| micahg | %Error: ../test_v/top.v:8: syntax error, unexpected $undefined | 07:16 |
| AnAnt | yup | 07:16 |
| micahg | it looks like the build hung | 07:20 |
| AnAnt | yes, this build error does hang the build if I was on an interactive shell | 07:20 |
| AnAnt | this "%Error: ../test_v/top.v:8: syntax error, unexpected $undefined" does not happen on other archs | 07:21 |
| AnAnt | upstream doesn't have a clue either | 07:21 |
| AnAnt | when I compared build logs on Debian, I noticed that successful builds used gcc 4.4.5, while sparc (the failing build) used gcc 4.4.4 | 07:22 |
| micahg | AnAnt: well, we're on gcc 4.5.2 I think in natty | 07:22 |
| AnAnt | yup | 07:23 |
| AnAnt | and its building well with other archs on natty | 07:23 |
| micahg | yeah, but each arch has its quirks, you can try asking doko | 07:25 |
| AnAnt | hmmm, different binutils revision | 07:27 |
| micahg | ah | 07:27 |
| AnAnt | but I would suspect that this would be the reason | 07:28 |
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| AnAnt | cdbs: new nickname ? | 12:53 |
| cdbs | AnAnt: yep, since 2 months I guess | 12:53 |
| nonix4 | perl -pi -e 's/mantainance/maintenance/' jetring-0.*/debian/control # typos in first line of description are annoying, anybody want to fix that? :) | 14:08 |
| debfx | nonix4: please file a bug against the debian package :) | 14:17 |
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| nonix4 | debfx: for minor typo fix, maintonly@bugs.debian.org would be right place? | 14:42 |
| debfx | nonix4: I would just send it to submit@b.d.o with severity minor but maintonly seems appropriate as well | 14:48 |
| m4n1sh | Hi, for the changelog line - zeitgeist-sharp (0.1.1.0~m4n1sh1~natty) natty; urgency=low | 16:17 |
| m4n1sh | and tarball name | 16:17 |
| m4n1sh | zeitgeist-sharp_0.1.1.0.orig.tar.gz | 16:17 |
| m4n1sh | I am getting this error | 16:17 |
| m4n1sh | dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found | 16:17 |
| m4n1sh | what is wrong in it? | 16:17 |
| ari-tczew | almaisan-away: ping | 16:17 |
| directhex | m4n1sh, missing debian revision | 16:18 |
| ari-tczew | m4n1sh: filename is wrong | 16:18 |
| directhex | m4n1sh, 0.1.1.0-1 is the base, not 0.1.1.0 | 16:18 |
| m4n1sh | directhex: debian revision is needed? I thought not | 16:19 |
| directhex | m4n1sh, you need a - in there, the bit before the - is the orig version | 16:19 |
| ari-tczew | directhex: this is a new package | 16:19 |
| m4n1sh | zeitgeist-sharp (0.1.1.0-1~m4n1sh1~natty) natty; urgency=low | 16:19 |
| m4n1sh | this is fine? | 16:19 |
| ari-tczew | no | 16:19 |
| directhex | m4n1sh, yes. | 16:19 |
| ari-tczew | m4n1sh: 0.1.1.0-0ubuntu1 | 16:19 |
| ari-tczew | directhex: ? | 16:19 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: +1 | 16:19 |
| micahg | it's not in Debian, so a fake Debian revision shouldn't be added | 16:20 |
| directhex | micahg, well, it's in NEW | 16:20 |
| micahg | directhex: oh, ok, well in that case :), if it's a backport of that version it's fine | 16:20 |
| m4n1sh | thanks everyone | 16:21 |
| ari-tczew | folks, conclusion: REVU or Debian? | 16:21 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: for? | 16:21 |
| directhex | debian. always. | 16:22 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: where m4n1sh is working for? new package for REVU or Debian? | 16:22 |
| directhex | ari-tczew, for his ppa. the packackage is already in debian NEW | 16:22 |
| ari-tczew | m4n1sh: aha, add natty1 rather for PPA | 16:22 |
| ari-tczew | then you can add more revisions natty2, natty3 etc | 16:22 |
| m4n1sh | ari-tczew: I was putting it in debian because dnielsen (banshee contributer) asked for natty package | 16:23 |
| m4n1sh | ari-tczew: means 0.1.1.0-0ubuntu1~natty1 | 16:23 |
| ari-tczew | m4n1sh: for PPA looks fine | 16:23 |
| micahg | m4n1sh: you can use -1 if it's a straight backport of the Debian package | 16:23 |
| m4n1sh | micahg: means 0.1.1.0-1ubuntu1~natty1 instead 0.1.1.0-0ubuntu1~natty1 | 16:24 |
| directhex | i wouldn't until it clears NEW, personally | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | m4n1sh: what's the version in debian NEW? | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | show us | 16:24 |
| m4n1sh | ari-tczew: directhex knows it better | 16:24 |
| micahg | m4n1sh: hmm, ok, well, go with 0.1.1.0-0ubuntu1~natty1~ppa1 that way there's no chance of conflicting with an official backport | 16:25 |
| m4n1sh | thanks | 16:25 |
| ari-tczew | +1 ^^ | 16:25 |
| micahg | directhex: you're right again :) | 16:25 |
| directhex | yeah, i guess micahg has good advice there | 16:25 |
| directhex | it is possible for -1 to get rejected, in which case there's confusion over what the "real" -1 is | 16:26 |
| directhex | so 0ubuntu1 which is identical to -1 in new is a reasonable assumption. so go with micahg's suggestion | 16:26 |
| * ari-tczew has lunch | 16:26 | |
| ari-tczew | almaisan-away: we need your help in bug 675622. see comment 5 | 17:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 675622 in glew (Ubuntu) "Merge glew 1.5.7-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675622 | 17:42 |
| ari-tczew | nonix4: I can give +1 for backport w3m to maverick. | 17:44 |
| ari-tczew | nonix4: lucid needs changes in d/control | 17:44 |
| nonix4 | ari-tczew: 'k. Regarding my patch, Tatsuya just confirmed that it looks correct. | 17:46 |
| ari-tczew | nonix4: there were opinions that patch works as new feature, no bugfix. what do you think? | 17:47 |
| nonix4 | From viewpoint of w3m package, it indeed seems like a new feature, but for launchpad-foundations/canonical-identity-provider it is a bugfix imho. | 17:51 |
| micahg | nonix4: I would suggest -backports + an FAQ then | 17:51 |
| nonix4 | (then again the rest of 0.5.2-2.1...0.5.2-10 difference is even more features) | 17:52 |
| micahg | right, but in -backports, that's fine :) | 17:53 |
| nonix4 | tbh -backports is quite unknown to majority of normal users, so that FAQ would need careful choice of words. I'd rather prefer that in a default server installation, ubuntu-bug "just works" once normal upgrades have been installed. | 17:56 |
| ari-tczew | +1 ^^ | 17:57 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: ping | 17:57 |
| micahg | nonix4: you could e-mail the tech board and ask for an exception | 17:58 |
| ari-tczew | waking up all developers for one button sounds like hardcore | 18:00 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: tech board isn't that many people | 18:00 |
| nonix4 | 6 active members? | 18:02 |
| micahg | nonix4: right, you can send a request to the ML | 18:02 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: but it shows our bureaucracy | 18:02 |
| ari-tczew | we are not in the department | 18:02 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: we have procedures to keep stability in the Stable Releases | 18:03 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: "procedures" | 18:03 |
| ari-tczew | repeating bureaucracy | 18:04 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: we have more relaxed rules than Debian | 18:04 |
| nonix4 | well, to be able to handle high volume of patches, some form of bureaucracy/hierarchy seems to be more or less necessary, however itchy it feels :-/ | 18:06 |
| micahg | also, this is an exception | 18:06 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: please consider whether you are too inflexible, bureaucratic, official | 18:09 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: hi | 18:09 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: hello. have you got time to have a look for 2 packages? | 18:09 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: unclear, which ones? | 18:09 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: it falls outside the guidelines of a stable release update, so the options are -backports or TB exception, I didn't create the rules | 18:09 |
| nonix4 | TB? | 18:10 |
| micahg | tech board | 18:10 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: want to sync libgcrypt11 and libgpg-error from experimental. only remaining changes are dirs - files *.install, *links | 18:11 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: one request is filed, bug 702765 | 18:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 702765 in libgcrypt11 (Ubuntu) "Please sync libgcrypt11 1.4.6-4 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702765 | 18:12 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: I'd like to get your feedback whether these changes are necessary or not. | 18:12 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: but you are keeping bureaucratic which is not good. | 18:13 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: It's *our* responsibility as uploaders to follow the guidelines that are in place, if you think something should be changed, you should propose it (not sure about the correct forum probably -devel ML) | 18:15 |
| * ari-tczew must go out. | 18:16 | |
| nonix4 | ari-tczew: btw I could do some proofreading of your QuickResponse writing some day, think I spotted some minor grammar issues there. | 18:18 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: okay, please hilight me with the other request as well, I'll do it when I find some more time | 18:43 |
| ari-tczew | nonix4: OK, I'm open for feedbacks. | 19:51 |
| paultag | Does anyone know how I can bump bug #703718 ? | 19:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 703718 in fluxconf (Ubuntu) "Requesting removal of source package `fluxconf' from Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703718 | 19:55 |
| micahg | paultag: you just have to wait for the archive admins to process | 19:56 |
| paultag | micahg: great. thanks! | 19:56 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: what do you think, is might be able for Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/557346/ | 20:09 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: what's the intention behind this change? | 20:10 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: the diff which I sent above is a Debian change. | 20:10 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: AFAIUI, debian is moving the libs from /usr to /, which we in ubuntu do for quite some time now | 20:11 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: ah, I see. Well, compare the file installation lists of the binary packages. what file locations did change? | 20:11 |
| siretart | if none, then everything is great :-) | 20:11 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: our delta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/557348/ | 20:12 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: why do we still need the delta? | 20:14 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: we don't need delta. :-) | 20:15 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: I'm just making sure that we can drop delta. I noticed that you've some uploads related to /lib dir. | 20:16 |
| siretart | okay. - let me try it the other way: try building the unmodified source from debian in ubuntu. then compare the output of 'dpkg-deb -c $deb' from the new package with the existing packages | 20:16 |
| siretart | if all files end up in the same locations, then let's get rid of our local changes | 20:17 |
| siretart | if there are differences, then we need to review the changes | 20:17 |
| siretart | we need to look at the results here, I think | 20:17 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: let me build it - I'm on it! | 20:17 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: that change doesn't make sense, a -dev package shouldn't be putting anything in /lib | 20:18 |
| micahg | FYI, there was a whole discussion on debian-devel about this | 20:18 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: what do you think, the package from experimental is better? | 20:18 |
| siretart | micahg: there is, but we really had enough trouble with the divergence here. I'd prefer if we could finally get these two packages in sync again | 20:19 |
| micahg | siretart: indeed | 20:19 |
| micahg | I was just noting that the diff seems unnecessary for practical reasons | 20:20 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: +1 ^^ | 20:30 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: odd error: my natty can't find binary libgpg-error0-udeb | 21:12 |
| siretart | uh? | 21:19 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: ok I know what is wrong. Section: debian-installer | 21:20 |
| ari-tczew | me sends thanks to yofel | 21:21 |
| ari-tczew | siretart: OK, compared. natty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/557392/ experimental: http://paste.ubuntu.com/557394/ | 21:33 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: maybe you're interested ^^ | 21:33 |
| micahg | yeah, I think that's better | 21:35 |
| micahg | but you should just verify with someone who uses the package, just because it fits the standards better, doesn't mean it won't break stuff :) | 21:36 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: but this is library, hard to find who uses it | 21:37 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: well, I meant, who "maintains" something that uses it, that or test build something that depends on the -dev package with it | 21:37 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: hmm, then I have to use PPA | 21:38 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: build test is enough? | 21:38 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: idk, I'm not a core-dev :), seems like StevenK did most of that work originally, maybe he has an opinion on the issue | 21:40 |
| siretart | ari-tczew: it's a bit hard to compare, but it looks great to me so far! | 21:41 |
| bdrung | micahg: you forgot to subscribe ubuntu-archive to bug #701536 | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 701536 in python-mpd (Ubuntu) "Please sync python-mpd 0.3.0-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701536 | 22:11 |
| micahg | bdrung: sorry, I thought I got better at that :-/ | 22:13 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: in future you should use in d/changelog "Sync on Debian" instead "Merge from Debian experimental, no remaining change." | 22:13 |
| ari-tczew | if no remaining changes, it can't be merge :) | 22:13 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i can do with my package what i want :P | 22:14 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: :> | 22:14 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: merge from debian, drop all changes, and add new ones. | 22:14 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I took this method from tumbleweed | 22:15 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i kept ubuntu's changelog entry, otherwise it would be a sync. | 22:15 |
| siretart | yay, my build recipe for ffmpeg/trunk packages finally works! https://code.launchpad.net/~motumedia/+recipe/ffmpeg-daily | 22:15 |
| ari-tczew | congratz siretart :) | 22:16 |
| siretart | so I can finally start testing upgrades by throwing natty sourcepackages at that ppa | 22:16 |
| siretart | but that's for later this week. good night! | 22:17 |
| bdrung | siretart: do you know wrap-and-sort? | 22:17 |
| siretart | bdrung: no, what's that? | 22:18 |
| bdrung | siretart: it sorts and wraps build-depends and co. | 22:18 |
| bdrung | siretart: wrap-and-sort; $vcs diff | 22:18 |
| * bdrung should blog about it. | 22:19 | |
| siretart | sounds interesting, I'm looking forward to that blogpost | 22:19 |
| bdrung | siretart: you forgot to add an epoch to the daily build! | 22:20 |
| bdrung | siretart: recommendation: 0.7~~{revno}+{time} -> 4:0.7~daily~{revno}+{time} | 22:21 |
| ari-tczew | micahg, siretart: gnupg2 built fine on my PPA with libgcrypt11 and libgpg-error from experimental. | 23:36 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: great | 23:39 |
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