[04:58] <qwebirc8571> hi all
[04:58] <qwebirc8571> quick question
[04:59] <qwebirc8571> can I install mythbuntu and then replace xfce with fluxbox, and if so which packages need removing?
[05:00] <tgm4883> qwebirc8571, yea you should be able to do that, but I couldn't tell you what to remove
[05:00] <tgm4883> is there a fluxbuntu?
[05:00] <qwebirc8571> yeah but it's old
[05:00] <tgm4883> if so, you could install that, then install MCC, then configure mythtv from there
[05:01] <tgm4883> qwebirc8571, then grab the alternate CD and install cmd line only, then install fluxbox
[05:01] <qwebirc8571> ok
[05:01] <tgm4883> then MCC, etc
[05:01] <qwebirc8571> what other packages besides MCC/FB/myth
[05:01] <qwebirc8571> are necessary
[05:02] <qwebirc8571> i tried it and had a helluva time
[05:03] <qwebirc8571> are any gnome pkgs necessary for say editing users/grps etc?
[05:05] <tgm4883> no, i would add mcc, then configure from there. It should prompt to install whatever it needs from there
[05:05] <qwebirc8571> so mcc, myth and FB?
[05:05] <qwebirc8571> and xdm
[05:06] <qwebirc8571> ofc
[05:06] <qwebirc8571> is that it then? just MCC XDM FB and myth/mcc?
[05:08] <qwebirc8571> what's the apt for mcc? mythbuntu-control center
[06:45] <qwebirc8571> wjat about all the recommended packages do i need those
[06:45] <qwebirc8571> ?
[06:45] <qwebirc8571> what*
[06:58] <qwebirc8571> i assume that myth and mcc are to be installed seperately
[06:59] <qwebirc8571> IE installing MCC wont install mythtv
[06:59] <qwebirc8571> ?
[10:12] <skiwithpete> hi
[10:12] <skiwithpete> anyone here?
[10:13] <skiwithpete> I want to setup a mythTV-backend on an XFCE 'buntu box.  I think I just need
[10:14] <skiwithpete> sudo apt-get install mythtv-backend
[10:14] <skiwithpete> it's on 10.04.1
[10:14] <skiwithpete> anything else I need to type or will that do it all?
[10:14] <skiwithpete> cheers
[10:41] <skiwithpete> soz never 100% sure, but need to sleep
[10:41] <skiwithpete> will check back tomoz
[12:14] <stanman246> hi you guys
[12:14] <stanman246> i'd like to create a livecd/usb to boot from and then run the frontend only, is that possible?
[14:59] <stanman246> hi, which version of mythtv is on the livecd of mythbuntu??
[15:00] <mrand> stanman246: 0.23.1 is on the 10.10 CD
[15:01] <stanman246> darn...
[15:01] <mrand> 0.24 is available via the online PPA, and will be included in 11.04
[15:01] <stanman246> i've got 0.24 running as backend
[15:01] <stanman246> so i can't use the livecd to connect and see if the machine likes it or not...
[15:01] <mrand> You could try a 11.04 disk.  Hmmm, I say that... I wonder if they've been created.
[15:02] <stanman246> think not...
[15:02] <stanman246> do you perhaps know of a distro livecd which holds 0.24?
[15:04] <mrand> stanman246: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/20110123/
[15:04] <Zinn> [cdimage.ubuntu.com] Mythbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) Daily Build
[15:05] <stanman246> wow
[15:05] <stanman246> does it have 0.24 on it?
[17:38] <superm1> stanman246, yeah it does
[17:39] <stanman246> 2 bad
[17:39] <stanman246> needed a livecd with a 0.24 frontend
[17:50] <BLZbubba> is it possible to run mythbuntu from the install disc to see how well it works?  i have a backend already working, i just want to test hdmi out before I do a full install
[17:50] <BLZbubba> it looks like debian squeeze/sid can't do hdmi out even with the right driver loaded, unfortunately
[17:50] <tgm4883> BLZbubba, you could, although i'm not sure the right drivers would load
[17:55] <BLZbubba> that makes sense.  is there an hdmi audio troubleshooting guide anywhere?  it shows the right things in aplay, but no sound comes out.  it was working perfectly until i did a reinstall
[17:55] <BLZbubba> my biggest nightmare would be if i reload and it still fails
[18:10] <BLZbubba> is there an easy way to get the apt sources I need to turn a vanilla ubuntu 10.10 server into a mythbuntu backend?
[18:11] <tgm4883> BLZbubba, considering it's all in the Ubuntu repos, yea
[18:11] <tgm4883> since it's already there
[18:12] <BLZbubba> oh ok, that is excellent
[18:13] <BLZbubba> but too easy.  is there a way to make it more difficult?
[18:18] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:18] <tgm4883> BLZbubba, I suppose you could remove sources.list then manually download each package and dependency and install it that way?
[18:19] <BLZbubba> now you're making me nostalgic for the 90's
[18:20] <BLZbubba> does 10.10 use 0.23 or 0.24?
[18:21] <tgm4883> BLZbubba, 0.23.1 by default. 0.24 is available via the mythbuntu-repos package
[18:21] <tgm4883> !updates
[18:21] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos
[18:24] <BLZbubba> ok cool thanks.  one final question - is it possible to get the mythtv backend without having to load X things?
[18:28] <BLZbubba> this is a disaster, i'm getting gtk, qt, mysql-server.  heh why bother loading ubuntu server in the first place :)
[18:28] <tgm4883> BLZbubba, no
[18:29] <tgm4883> backend requires X to setup
[18:29] <tgm4883> IIRC, 0.25 or 0.26 is moving to web based setup so that shouldn't be necessary
[18:30] <BLZbubba> it doesn't require X, it's just extremely helpful.
[18:30] <BLZbubba> the front end needs mythtv-setup too but it doesn't get it automatically
[18:31] <BLZbubba> but luckily this complaint will be obsolete soon :)
[18:35] <Chris64> hi all
[18:36] <Chris64> does nano work at mythbuntu 10.10?
[18:36] <Chris64> it returns Error opening terminal: unknown
[18:36] <Chris64> need to edit a file. vim is also not available. It's a bit confusing
[18:37] <BLZbubba> it should work fine, but maybe a package is missing.  check google
[18:37] <BLZbubba> and sudo apt-get install vim
[18:37] <tsimpson> what terminal are you trying to run nano from?
[18:37] <BLZbubba> typical debian/ubuntu annoyance
[18:37] <Chris64> it's the terminal from the main applications menu
[18:38] <Chris64> @tsimpson
[18:38] <Chris64> BLZbubba: ok
[18:42] <tsimpson> Chris64: what is the output of "echo $TERM"?
[18:43] <Chris64> dumb
[18:44] <tsimpson> does it work if you try running it from xterm or with "TERM=xterm nano" (the 2nd may not work depending on how advanced the terminal is)
[18:45] <Chris64> second one works :)
[18:45] <Chris64> thank you
[18:45] <BLZbubba> ok is /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt no longer needed?  it looks like it's duplicated in config.xml
[18:53] <BLZbubba> hmm there is no startup file for mythtv backend in /etc/rc2.d
[18:54] <BLZbubba> oh no, not a @$^ upstart file.  lame
[18:58] <Chris64> is this warning on http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers about a bug in ubuntu still true which will let the compiling of DVB drivers to fail?
[18:58] <Zinn> [linuxtv.org] How to Obtain, Build and Install V4L-DVB Device Drivers - LinuxTVWiki
[18:59] <Chris64> okay, compile failed oo"
[19:09] <BLZbubba> ok how do i tell upstart to launch mythtv-backend when the system boots up?
[19:10] <BLZbubba> ah there is something in init.d, thank god
[19:11] <BLZbubba> oh lame, it doesn't work if you link it to /etc/rc2.d
[19:54] <BLZbubba> another question, how well does mythbuntu 10.10 deal with an NFS problem?  e.g. see what happens if you add this to /etc/fstab:  1.2.3.4:/foo /mnt nfs defaults 0 0
[19:54] <BLZbubba> 10.04 would freeze at the purple splash screen forever with no messages at all
[21:33] <BLZbubba> #%&@$% ok what does it take to get HDMI audio working with a GT 210?  i unmuted the device and disabled the motherboard audio in the bios
[21:45] <rhpot1991> BLZbubba: pick it in the audio setup page?
[21:59] <genec> BLZbubba: check all your volumes.  I know using Kubuntu on this laptop, headphones volume is funny
[22:40] <mrand> BLZbubba: I had a rough time too.  First step is to get it working outside of Myth by using aplay or speaker-test.  You'll go completely insane otherwise.  if aplay -L doesn't list your sound device, try updating your drivers via this PPA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[22:40] <Zinn> [wiki.ubuntu.com] Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules - Ubuntu Wiki