[00:43] what should I look for a server maintenance checklist [00:43] of different clients [00:53] could I do a simple or thier some web app for Server maintenance checklist === bgupta_ is now known as bgupta [01:07] is thier any free webbased project mangement app === kiall|AFK is now known as kiall [01:51] hello, anyone alive? [01:58] Hi. Can anyone help me set up Bind so i can use my VPS? :p [02:01] Can anyone help me setup Bind? [02:03] Tm0: google it [02:03] I did. Suprisingly none of them told me what to do if i had two IP addresses [02:08] Anyone? [02:31] hello [02:31] if you still need help i'm here and i've got nothing better to do with my time [02:32] so [02:52] I'm trying to download Ubuntu 10.10 SE, but I'm getting a cap of 80MiB/sec [02:53] Is there a mirror closer to the USA I could use? [02:53] Rather than somewhere in the UK [02:53] Is that even a problem? [02:53] It's pretty good speed. [02:53] Normally I get 6 to 7 times that. [02:54] Yo mean, like 8 megabytes per second isn't enough? [02:55] Oh shi, what's this unit you used. [02:55] mebibyte, lol [02:55] Oh sorry >_< [02:55] KiB. [02:55] 80KB/sec. [02:56] There is option to choose a mirror by hand. [02:56] Gah it's been a long day. >_>. Brain is totally fried, like my server. [02:56] It's ok. [02:56] Oh? [02:57] Oh, no. [02:57] There is't [02:57] Yeah, I didn't see one. [02:57] Well, I restarted the download and now I'm getting like 400KB/sec. [02:58] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors [02:58] There are ones. [03:15] Thanks. It's downloading quite a bit faster. [03:39] Anyone have experience getting digest authentication to work with apache2.2? basic authentication works fine for me, but I can't figure out why digest isnt' working (the user/pass i put in the htdigest file doesn't work). i'm not sure what could be going on. i have a feeling it has to do with the "realm" and "domain" but finding inconsistent answers across the web === wavekidsjp is now known as wavekidsAW [04:50] can anyone give me an idea of where to look to figure out why SWAT doesn't start [04:56] Ill take any advice at this time: this has been annoying me for a week now [05:18] So, for some reason my server doesn't want to boot from the Ubuntu Server Edition CD. [05:18] Yet it boots just fine from some Windows CD. [05:19] So, I'm confused. Is there a reason the CD wouldn't be bootable, or is there something I should be doing? [05:23] UbuntuRules: Is inetd or xinetd running? [05:24] Kaedenn: Have you verified the CD by checksumming it using md5sum? [05:25] I have not, but I installed the image from ubuntu.com. o_O [05:26] Kaedenn: How does that provide any check against the burner creating a bad copy of the image?? [05:27] True. I'm making a USB startup disk and seeing if that works, though. [05:28] Kaedenn: You might want to check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM and check the CD, too. [05:29] Erm, "Make Startup Disk" isn't listing my USB stick. [05:57] Okay, now for another advancement. When I try to boot from an Ubuntu USB drive, it just says "Boot error", and nothing else. [05:57] That's all that's displayed on the screen. [05:58] Kaedenn: Does that same USB stick boot other machines OK? [05:58] Never tried to boot other machines. [05:59] Might be worth checking. It's a quickish way to see if the issue is with the USB stick, or with the one machine you are trying to boot. [05:59] For some reason, booting hangs when trying to boot a CD. I just get some Intel-specific error code "EB" and the CD drive just spins. [05:59] Kaedenn: and the md5sum of the CD checked out fine, right? [06:00] Checking that now. [06:13] jmarsden: The checksum passed. [06:14] OK. Good. Can you boot a different machine from CD or from the USB stick, as a test? [06:15] I don't have any other machine to test that on >_< [06:16] What about the one you are using now, the one you are typing on? Alternatively, you could download a different small Linux ISO and see if you can get the server to boot from *that*. [06:18] I'm downloading a fork of Tiny Core Linux. [06:18] Maybe http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/3.x/release/tinycore_3.4.1.iso which is only around 10MB ... OK. [06:18] Actually that one is a quarter of the size. [06:19] Unless you are on dialup to your ISP, a 2.5Mb or a 10Mb file will each download in seconds anyway :) [06:23] Doesn't want to boot from that either. [06:23] * Kaedenn hits head against desk [06:23] How are you creating the burned CDs? WHat command are you using to burn them? [06:23] Brasero. [06:23] Basically, "Do you want to burn this ISO to a CD?" [06:24] OK. Can you mount the resulting CDs and see the usual set of files on them? [06:24] Yeap. [06:24] And the md5sum checked out OK from the MD5Sums on launchpad. [06:24] Or, help.ubuntu.com rather. [06:24] Sounds like the issue is with the server. Why not test by booting the machine you are currently typing from from one of the CDs? [06:24] If it can boot them, you *know* the CDs are OK. [06:25] I'm almost certain it's the server, as I've tried four boot mediums thusfar and they all didn't work. [06:26] Wait, no, five. [06:27] Two separate Ubuntu 10.10 i386 CDs, one amd64 CD, a TCL CD, and Ubuntu 10.10 on a USB drive created from "Create Startup Disk". [06:28] And I tried the USB stick with both i386 and amd64. [06:28] It's your choice. At least theoretically, you created all of those, so you are a common factor, a common possible source of error... so until you boot successfully from one or more of those boot media, you do not *know* that the issue is with the server. Seems to me you have spent a lot of time creating boot media rather than testing the first bootable medium is really truly bootable... :) [06:28] Looks like I'm going shopping tomorrow. [06:28] True. [06:29] Hey. PEBKAC. It's my motto. :) [06:29] maybe the server doesn't like isolinux, or vice versa? [06:29] No idea! [06:29] It could boot just fine from some random Windows CD. [06:30] Windows doesn't use isolinux ;) [06:31] it is possible that there is a bug in the BIOS in a function that the Windows bootloader doesn't use [06:33] Fantastic. [06:33] We'll go shopping tomorrow. [06:33] Maybe we can pick up an AMD64 motherboard and leave all this behind us. [06:34] It's late. I need sleep. [06:34] well, you might want to check if there is no BIOS upgrade available [06:34] jmarsden, JanC, thank you for your help. [06:34] You're welcome. Goodnight. [06:34] I will do that tomorrow morning. [07:09] Hi eveyone, Does anyone here know about virtualization? [07:44] Hi. I am using Ubuntu server for practice. But in server arrow keys are not working! [07:50] is any one can solve my problem. plz. [07:54] i'd like to use aufs and im a little confused as to how to get it on my lucid system. [07:58] i cant seem to find aufs-tools in the repository [08:18] CppIsWeird, look at http://admin.alfalinks.lv/en/content/how-install-fsprotect-ubuntu-1004-lucid [08:25] if i installed the aufs-tools package, i havent installed aufs right? [08:26] i installed this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/aufs-tools [08:26] CppIsWeird: apt-cache search aufs # returns fsprotect and live-initramfs so looking closely at those packages seems appropriate [08:41] is there any way to get a list of directories/devices involved in a unionfs/aufs? [09:00] what a simple wiki I can install in ubntu [09:00] server [09:27] mrothhh, mediawiki? [09:29] dokuwiki <3 [09:52] hi any one know of a easy to use wiki for ubuntu [09:54] mrothhh, we already gave you 2 wikis [10:01] thank you [10:01] bye === Silanus is now known as silanus_ === silanus_ is now known as Silanus === Silanus is now known as silanus === oCean_ is now known as oCean === windkids is now known as windAwy === windAwy is now known as windkids [12:39] good evening to all. im hoping to get help here, im sure its simple for many of the users here its about ubuntu10.04 server and raid1. fresh install of ubuntu-10.04.1-server-amd64 and i followed the step by step in the https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html but on boot im at the busybox mounting errors [12:40] jolop: I'll pick it up with you in here as you're also asking in #ubuntu [12:41] jolop: where did you tell it to install the bootloader ? [12:41] ok ikonia it alright here [12:41] jolop: did you use a seperate boot partition ? [12:42] from the instructions i only did 2 partitions 1st is the swap file 10gb and 2nd for the / partition remaining of the 500gb also set it to bootable [12:43] no i dont think i used a seperate boot partition [12:43] jolop: ok, personal experience, you'll find it easier to manage with a seperate boot partition, but that's just personal opinion. Where did you tell the installer to put grub ? [12:43] when it asked, it just asked if i wanted to install the grub on the 1st drive i said yes [12:44] that should be fine. [12:46] mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/24b8b.... on /root failed: invalid argumant [12:47] thats the firs tline of error === windkids is now known as windAwy [12:48] /root ??? that doesn't sound good [12:49] jolop: boot into the livecd, start the raid array and check the grub config [12:50] arrow keys are not working on Ubuntu server??? [12:51] then the next 3 errors are also mount errors just like that but they are realated to the first one not being mounted "/root/dev /root/sys /root/proc [12:52] rebooting to a ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64 is it ok? [12:57] ikonia: thank yu for helping me, im now at the live cd [12:57] jolop: start the array [12:57] im sorry but how do i do that? [12:58] fdisk -l i see the two drives i dont see the md0 i created [13:01] im installing mdadm first [13:01] then i'll try to start the array === viezerd- is now known as viezerd [13:09] jolop: cool [13:09] ikonia: i think a i have already started the array using "mdadm --assemble --scan" but when i "fdisk -l" there is a note there that "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table [13:09] apologies, I keep leaving my desk [13:09] jolop: ok, so that's the issue, the install didn't happen to md0 [13:09] and "Disk /dev/md1 doesn't contain a valid partition" [13:10] jolop: something has gone wrong with the install, re-install (you may want to follow my suggestion and use a seperate /boot) [13:11] the reason i did only 2 partitions is because i dont have a guide on slicing the 500GB in preparation for RAID1 [13:11] raid1 has nothing to do with your partition layout [13:11] slice it as you see fit [13:12] while im onit and your here to help me any suggestion on slicing up a 500gb? im using it basically for webserver and redmine [13:13] /boot / /var /home seems sensible to me [13:13] the guide im following only told of swap partition on the beginning of the disk and "/" partition that is bootable for the rest of the drive [13:14] the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html [13:14] because it's personal preference how you slice it up [13:14] that option I've just given you is just my opinion based on experience [13:17] does the postfix configuration is a requirement for the mdadm, i noticed im always selecting no configuration when its asked after installation of mdadm [13:22] im thinking that the mdadm dis not start on installation when i did no configuration on the postfix that it wants to be installed [13:24] jolop: postfix is only used for sending alert emails of mdadm failure [13:26] you can probably use any mta, but postfix is the preferred one [13:26] yes but maybe this time i'll try to configure the postfix install [13:27] jolop: btw, I'd recommend not slicing up too much - just a gig for the /boot, some swap and the rest for the root is good for most installs [13:28] just use something to monitor disk usage so it doesn't fill up [13:29] another good soul helping me. thanks RoyK! and thank you Ikonia. im currently wiping the disks before fresh install again. [13:31] New bug: #706570 in tomcat6 (main) "JAVA_OPTS defined in /etc/init.d/tomcat6 do not propagate to startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706570 [13:34] gig for /boot ? [13:34] 250mb is more than enough for /boot [13:34] RoyK: did you read what he said about running a web server [13:34] a seperate /var partition is important for logging [13:39] not really [13:39] so long as the drives don't fill up, it doesn't matter [13:39] I agree with ikonia there.. I even separate /var/www on my webservers [13:39] 1m done witht he 1st partition for swap, its 10gb at the beginning, just like th eguide said. [13:39] and the flexibility of having one large partition is way more important than isolating stuff [13:40] ikonia: 250MB can easily fill up - beleive me [13:40] now i'll crete the /boot partition is this the one i need to mark as bootable? [13:40] ikonia: and if you have 500 gigs, 1 less won't matter much [13:40] RoyK: do you collect obsolete kernel versions? :s [13:41] oCean: or do some testing or ... [13:41] jolop: the installer will mark what needs to be marked [13:41] is the /boot partition needed to be marked as bootable? [13:41] jolop: trust the installer [13:41] jolop: don't worry about bootable flag [13:42] oCean: with automatic updates, /boot can easily fill up if you don't manually remove old kernels - that's why I want some space there - less hassle [13:42] and with current drive pricing, 1GB isn't really a lot [13:43] * RoyK just checked and old box... $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image| wc 23 248 3176 [13:43] 23 friggin' kernels :P [13:49] finished slicing the 500gb, only 3 partitions, im still afraid on more complications swap, /boot and / [13:50] then on the raid1 devices: 0: as swap, 1: as /boot ext4 and 2: / ext4 [14:01] jolop: how much swap/boot? [14:12] not much sense in journaling /boot but ok [14:15] finished the install and its the same error [14:16] jolop: using lvm? [14:17] jolop: what error? [14:17] no lvm [14:17] jolop: how many disks do you have? [14:18] iirc he said one 500GB drive [14:18] raid1 with one disk? [14:18] mount error somethign like cant mount /root to /dev/by-uuid-..... [14:19] raid1 2 500gb [14:19] ok [14:19] linux software raid? [14:20] ubuntu software raid. following the https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html === ropetin_ is now known as ropetin [14:20] im using ubuntu-10.04.1-server-amd64, hp proliant ml110, 2x500gb hdd, 4gm ram [14:35] what does your /boot/grub/grub.cfg say, and sudo fdisk -l, upload those to pastebin [14:39] jolop: do what you did before, boot from the livecd, start the array and see if you can mount it [14:39] jolop: it is pointless doing anything else until you know the array is valid and contains data === kiall is now known as kiall|AFK === kiall|AFK is now known as kiall [16:13] hello? [16:14] hello [16:14] does anyone know of a way to send emails using postfix, when the ISP has blocked port 25? [16:14] is the only way to use the isp's relay? [16:15] audrey: you're just sending emails? [16:15] well, it seems to receive emails just fine [16:16] but I can't send any emails unless they're internal [16:16] audrey: so, yes, use your isp's smtp server as a relay [16:16] I'm pretty sure (from telnetting) that port 25 is blocked [16:17] is that the only way? [16:17] I'm trying to make it as autonomous as possible (I realise I'm at the isp's mercy anyway) [16:18] sending isnt usually the problem [16:18] they dont block 25 outgoing [16:18] really? what could be the problem then? [16:18] compdoc: many isp's do not allow outgoing port 25 unless it's to their server [16:18] I assumed it was an anti-spam thing [16:18] this is very common [16:18] well, not all do [16:19] I'm with o2 [16:19] in the uk [16:19] they *have* an smtp relay, I just don't want to use it if I don't have to [16:19] compdoc: he said he can receive email but cannot send. the only way is to use the isp's smtp server [16:20] yes [16:20] Ive seen that too [16:20] unless his configuration is screwed up. but we can only go by what he's telling us [16:20] so use their outgoing - its not a big deal [16:20] all your mail are belong to o2 [16:21] thanks mattt, that's actually quite helpful. I suspected as much. Hence encryption? But how do I make it more stable? [16:21] I use comcast's outgoing because their reverse dns works, and sites like yahoo, etc. wont block [16:21] audrey: if you have another mail server outside of the o2 network, open up port 587 and use that? [16:22] audrey, in Brazil all ISPs blocked together port 25 due SPAM. There is probably an extensive documentation in how to deal with that. [16:22] there are mail hop outbound services [16:22] costs a little extra [16:22] compdoc: is comcast your isp? [16:22] yes [16:22] audrey: i use be in uk, they do same thing [16:23] what would be gained by piping all mail to an isp's server or some other organization's server? [16:23] I can telnet mail servers on port 25 - but I cant receive on 25 [16:24] pmatulis, theres a few benefits [16:24] ok, so use o2 smtp relay, use encryption, and be ready to link to a second server outside o2. [16:25] ? [16:25] let'er rip [16:25] encription? youre afraid theyre reading your mail? [16:25] well, They always do. :) [16:26] unlikely, but possible :D [16:28] Could I not just send mail directly on port 587? What are the likely problems with doing that? [16:29] and, indeed, how would you do that in postfix? [16:29] unless youre plotting to take over o2, I doubt they will care what you say [16:29] not all mail servers in the world will accept mail on 587, I dont think [16:30] I suppose it would defeat the point of blocking 25 [16:30] audrey: you need to first figure out what you want to achieve. from what i'm reading, you don't know [16:30] audrey: if you have a relay server that accepts mail on port 587, that'd work [16:30] you could relay through it [16:30] ah, ok. [16:31] you need a relay if the ISP blocks port 25 [16:31] * RoyK has a private server for that sort of things :P [16:31] audrey: you can make your server external to your isp listen on *any* port [16:31] yeah, i use my vps for that sort of thing [16:32] how much do you pay for a small vps these days? [16:32] audrey: and "encryption" only makes sense when authenticating to a mail server that you control [16:32] is there a recommended way of switching relays, or queueing them, so that it uses the backup server if the o2 one stops relaying? [16:32] and nothing else [16:32] RoyK: w/ minimal b/w, 15 a month or so? [16:33] RoyK: USD that is [16:33] pmatulis: I meant PGP etc [16:33] audrey: ok [16:34] mattt: wouldn't an EC2 VM from amazon be cheaper than that? [16:34] for just an MTA, I mean [16:35] is there a recommended way of switching relays, or queueing them, so that it uses the backup server if the o2 one stops relaying? using postfix [16:36] RoyK: ah, potentially ... don't use EC2 myself [16:36] audrey: that question doesn't make much sense [16:37] audrey: normally you have two or more MX records for a domain, with different priority/cost, which makes the email sent to the primary server, but falling back to the secondary server/MX if the primary can't be contacted [16:38] well, in my /var/log/mail I can see if a message didn't get sent (eg if o2 stops relaying), so is there a way of sending it via a secondary server if o2 fails? [16:38] royk: isn't that for incoming mail? [16:38] er.. yes [16:39] why shouldn't outgoing mail work? [16:39] audrey: what is sending it through o2? a mail server or something else? [16:39] except if the ISP blocks port 25, that is [16:39] royk: I'm recieving mail fine, I think o2 isp are blocking port 25 outgoing except to their server [16:39] audrey: they are, most ISPs do that [16:40] audrey: their mail server may start blocking connections from you if you're abusing their system btw [16:40] mattt: I'm not sure yet. I was going to try this: http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation/1538-sending-mail-using-your-isp-relay-host.html [16:41] yeah. I don't think I'll be spamming anyone though... [16:41] you sure? :D [16:41] audrey: postfix should retry if it can't relay the message through o2 [16:41] up to a certain # of days, then it'll drop the msg [16:41] I wouldn't know where to start, except maybe lol-spam :D [16:42] mattt: dpkg-reconfigure postfix [16:42] yeah, but the motivation is to be as autonomous as possible (which I realise in this case is a lost cause) [16:45] audrey: may want to look at something like a vps then [16:45] http://aws.amazon.com/free/ <-- looks good :) [16:46] lol, thanks. But how do you trust your vps host not to have a snoop-hypervisor? [16:48] audrey: dude, you're right paranoid :D [16:48] yeah, I know :D [16:48] but if They can boot Wikileaks, They can boot me [16:48] audrey: it's a matter of trust, or money, if you're paranoid, get your own gear and a good internet connection [16:49] royk: that's been my approach. What exactly makes a connection "good"? [16:49] not port-blocking :) [16:51] well, a 100Mbps link is quite good [16:51] I'm guessing that not having an isp (or being your own isp), even if it were possible, wouldn't be exactly easy [16:51] audrey: if you're located in the US or China or Iran or something, they have global sniffing in the backbone anyway [16:52] Royk: ORLY? but surely that only picks up on unencrypted transmissions? [16:53] audrey: it's still pretty hard to break RSA, yes [16:53] :) AFAWK [16:54] it's a fairly endless spiral, this distrust [16:54] but I somewhat think China is trying to break that with that new supercomputer of GPus [16:56] ok, thanks guys [16:56] ttyl [17:13] does ufw only store rules in /etc/ufw? I seem to be missing something [17:16] shauno: ufw is actually built on top of iptables. [17:16] I think it creates iptables rules and stores them there [17:16] I like it [17:17] theres a gufw if you have a desktop. it works well [17:17] where does iptables store rules between boots? [17:21] I think that's what I'm looking for .. they must persist on disk somewhere between boots [17:22] shauno: just doing ufw enable will persist through reboots [17:22] but I'm now discovering the host doesn't have ipt_MASQUERADE available, which is more likely to be why copying rulesets across didn't work === NG_ is now known as ng_ === Net-split is now known as Danco [19:58] can some one ping pehden.net [19:58] then www.pehden.net [19:58] tell me if both fail [19:58] http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [20:00] monteith: thanks that will do it [20:01] monteith: well actually that doesnt work [20:02] my browser redirects to www.pehden.net === Danco is now known as DamCar [20:05] and then my other browser says not found [20:05] host pehden.net [20:05] pehden.net mail is handled by 1 pehden.net. [20:06] but www.pehden.net resovles my ip [20:21] pehden: then its DNS issues [20:21] oh [20:21] btw [20:22] pehden: pehden.net. CNAME pehden.ath.cx. ; www.pehden.net. CNAME pehden.ath.cx. ; pehden.ath.cx. A 69.92.177.4 [20:22] that's the DNS entries [20:22] i omitted a duplicate entry [20:22] pehden: its likely not a dns issue then, rather an issue with your webserver [20:22] and its configuration [20:23] oh wait, you're having issues with multiple browsers? === ng_ is now known as NG_ [20:23] what DNS servers are those systems using? [20:26] actually i should beasking what browsers [20:26] :p [20:29] thats what i was thinking [20:29] ff [20:29] and arora [20:30] with ff pehden.net redirects to the www.pehden but in arora pehden.net fails [20:30] due to time out [20:32] New bug: #706675 in clamav (main) "package clamav-milter 0.96.5 dfsg-1ubuntu1.10.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script post-installation instalado devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706675 === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert [23:23] Hi folks, I have a connection on my netstatlist that I would like to know more of. Its line 6 and 14. How do I find out what service is on that port? http://pastebin.com/Xcqm4JAB [23:25] latenite: Run netstat with sudo and be sure to include the -p switch [23:25] That should tell you the process [23:27] Pici, nice flag thanks. Sadly the data I pasted is from yesterday. Is there still a way to find out? today it looks like that http://pastebin.com/RDBYErT0 [23:30] latenite: I'd be completely guessing, but it looks like it *might& be skype, the port numbers are in similar locations and a quick search reveals that skype doesn;t use any specific preset ports. [23:33] yeah maybe :) hey thanks a lot :) [23:33] np