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SamaeDoes it allow me to tweak the kernel conf ?00:00
topfs2you pick a kernel deb you want to base it on, so if you need to tweak the kernel you need to compile it and package it00:01
Samaeok00:02
Samaeand then it outputs a rootfs00:03
ka6sox-awaytopfs2, because its a uimage you can't just use make-kpkg kernel_image00:03
ka6sox-away?00:03
SamaeWell, I don't use uimage for now, or I'm not aware i'm using it00:03
SamaeI just discovered that my tablet boots always on a rootfs.img, so i substituted the armel image or ubuntu 10.10 and it ran ok (appart for usb and touchscreen support)00:04
ka6sox-awaySamae, which tablet?00:04
Samaeup there ^00:05
SamaeArchos 101 it00:05
ka6sox-awayah, archos.00:05
ka6sox-awayokahy00:05
SamaeOw, I meant I don't use uboot00:05
Samaebut yeah it boots on zImage or uImage apparently00:06
Samaeso next step, new rootfs and new kernel with proper modules00:06
Samae:)00:06
SamaeI'll be back00:07
Samaegudnite00:07
rsalvetiogra: the binary is the same name, but different path02:52
rsalvetiogra: the new package for omap3 is x-loader-omap3-beagle02:52
rsalvetias we're generating images compatible with beagle by default02:52
rsalvetiogra: /usr/lib/x-loader/omap3530beagle/MLO02:53
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cooloneyrsalveti: still around. can you boot up latest 2.6.38-rc2 on panda?03:50
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lilstevieok got a different situation here, the board that i am building a rootfs image for only has 320mb for its rootfs, does ubuntu arm support me splitting in to /usr /home /var / et al07:52
hrwlilstevie: generate tarball with rootfs and then split it manually into parts09:03
ka6soxhrw, does the maverick image use a initramfs?09:04
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hrwyes, it does09:08
ka6sox-awayhmmm..okay. I might have to do some playing then to get it to work.09:09
ka6sox-awayhopefully it uses udev09:09
lilsteviehrw: then just make sure the other parts are mounted in the initramfs right?09:31
hrwprobably09:33
hrwI use only / /home + /tmp in tmpfs on most of my machines09:33
lilstevieheh problem i have is that i only have 320mb in the available space for /09:34
lilstevieand the rest is split on SD cards09:34
lilstevieinternal 16gb of which i can only flash 1.5GB of ext09:34
ograi doubt loading off /var will gain you enough, you should offload /usr instead09:42
ograas long as you use an initrd adding a line to fstab should be enough, no extra fiddling needed09:43
lilstevieogra: but will that still give me enough space to be able to install stuff09:48
ograwell, thats a trial and r thing i guess09:58
ogra*error09:58
ograof my installed 4G big system /usr eats 1.9G while /var occupies 350M09:59
ograso sharing out /usr will definitely gain you more09:59
hrw6.3GB /usr 8/2GB /var on my desktop10:00
hrw6.3GB /usr 8.2GB /var on my desktop10:00
ograhrw, apt-get clean ;)10:01
hrwogra: 4GB is pbuilder10:01
ograloading off /var surely gains you a lot too in the running system later10:01
ogra(logs, caches etc)10:02
hrwbut yes, 800MB was apt cache10:02
ograbut for initial install if you are short on space /usr should be the first10:02
ograand /tmp in tmpfs is something you should only do with a decent amount of ram10:03
ograat least if you want to run apps like firefox10:03
ograi wouldnt do that on 128M if you want to run any desktop bits10:03
ogra(for example)10:03
lilstevieI have 512mb ram usable10:07
lilsteviethe SoIC has more ram but i dont know how to access it10:08
lilstevieand this is for arm :p does firefox have an arm port :p10:09
hrwport?10:12
hrwfirefox nowadays just need to be compiled10:12
lilstevieheh fair enough10:12
hrwI remember days when anything mozilla based required strange patches to get it running10:13
lilsteviestill trying to grasp how much will run on arm10:13
hrwlilstevie: 512MB ram? most will run10:13
lilsteviegenerally what is the best x manager to run in a touch environment10:13
LetoThe2ndrunning firefox on arm is absolutely no problem. compiling locally still is a bit of a strain, though.10:13
hrwlilstevie: which arm cpu you have?10:14
ograLetoThe2nd, depends on your hardware ;)10:14
lilsteviehrw: yeah it has 512mb ram, and some other ram that is really not known if it is usable10:14
lilsteviehrw: hummingbird10:14
hrwnice cpu10:14
lilstevieyeah :)10:14
ogralilstevie, i use an ac100 here atm, should all work fine10:14
lilsteviejust hoping to free it from android hell :p10:15
LetoThe2ndogra: adequte relation to HW given, of course. running ff on a pentium133 is also rather pointless.10:15
hrwlilstevie: so galaxy s/tab/nexuss?10:15
lilsteviefor a tablet like device is not nice10:15
lilstevietab10:15
lilstevieand i wasnt dumb enough to upgrade to one of the dev releases that has locked bootloaders so it just happily runs unsigned kernel/initramfs combos10:16
lilsteviehas to be the most open device i have ever had lol10:16
LetoThe2ndogra: on an openrd here ff worked quite good. :-)10:16
hrwbb in ~15minutes10:16
hrwheh.. someone remind about someone before leaving...10:21
* hrw uses hummingbird to play youtube videos now.10:22
lilstevielol10:22
hrwbut on nexus s/android10:22
lilsteviethe tab is nice hardware10:22
hrwlilstevie: tab has 1024x600?10:22
lilstevieyep10:22
hrw16GB storage, 512MB ram, netboot resolution... looks like good target for ubuntu10:23
lilstevieyeah thats what i though10:23
hrwbut I do not know would I switch10:23
lilstevieonly thing I am going to struggle with is the initramfs10:24
ogramake sure you have your kernel and modules properly installed in the rootfs10:25
ograthen just run update-initramfs -c -v<version of your kernel>10:25
hrwlilstevie: on arm devices I just avoid initramfs and boot directly into rootfs10:25
lilsteviehrw: that is a tad difficult on the tab10:26
lilstevieas the kernel gets the initramfs compiled in10:26
hrwas hw is always same, rootfs is same device etc10:26
ograyou lose some functionality without initrd10:26
ogra(filesystem check, encrypted filesystems etc)10:27
lilstevieogra: update-initramfs from inside qemu or just in the rootfs10:29
ograeither will work, it creates a /boot/initrd.img-<version>10:30
sebjanll /mnt/`10:34
sebjanoups :)10:34
lilstevieSGX535 has full accel on ubuntu yes?10:35
hrwogra: since when fsck needs initramfs?10:39
hrwogra: fsck needs rootfs/ro10:39
ograit happens before / is mounted rw10:39
hrwogra: and for this initramfs is not required10:39
ograwell, i dont have fsck on systems where i dont use initrd10:39
hrwogra: maybe thats because ubuntu forces initramfs to be used to fsck10:40
ogramight be, i never checked ... since we use initrd by default on all official images anyway10:40
sveinseogra: How can I submit patches to rootstock?10:50
ograsveinse, create your own branch on LP and file merge requests10:51
hrwspeaking of merging....10:59
lilstevieogra: does the kernel need to be in the rootfs10:59
hrwflash-kernel?10:59
ogralilstevie, the modules do10:59
ograi'm not sure update-initramfs checks for a vmlinuz file10:59
ograworst case you can just touch it though10:59
lilstevieok good cause my kernel isnt compiled until after i have the initramfs :p11:00
ograhrw, yeah yeah ... did drop off my TODO, there are just other more pressing things atm11:00
ogra*didnt (indeed)11:00
sveinseI saw some comments above regarding initrd: What specifically is done in initrd? Because my (rootfs based) system does not use initrd at all, but it seems to work as intended11:04
sveinse...I meant roostock based system11:04
ograsveinse, make sure your users never ever install any filesystem encryption bits, raid or device manager ... all these need initrd11:07
ograbeyond that initrd indeed draws the splash and runs plymouth (whithout which fsck will not work since mountall uses libplymouth for communication)11:08
lilstevieso ogra let me get this right, best way to do it will be set up fstab, move modules in to place chroot to the rootfs then run update-initramfs11:11
sveinseogra, ok thanks. Quite frankly it good to be without (except for fsck). I have a strict customer requirement of short bootup time.11:11
sveinseI see the PID counter is what around 3000, so it does alot at boot even without initrd11:12
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dmarthi all ... does anyone know how to get verbose log output during bootup, preferably over serial?  I don't really know to to achieve this with upstart+plymouth11:54
looldmart: remove quiet from cmdline and add nosplash?11:55
loolmight not be enough though11:55
ograno need for nosplash on serial though11:55
ogradropping quiet should be enough (and indeed the right console= args)11:55
looldmart: For serial, it's a matter of listing your serial console last if you want it to be the system console IIRC11:55
loolThat is, console=ttyS2, console=tty0 will output some kernel messages on both, but /dev/console will only go to last arg, or something like that11:56
ograjust make it the only console11:56
ograno need for tty0 if you want serial boot output11:56
lilstevieegh is there anthing that stops 32bit linux binaries executing on 10.10 64bit?11:57
lilsteviefor some reason it keeps telling me file not found for the executable when it is clearly there11:58
loollilstevie: What's the exact message?12:04
lilstevieNo Such File or Directory12:05
lilstevieit clearly exists12:05
loollilstevie: The full message12:05
loollilstevie: Usually, it's missing ld-linux for 32-bits; it's in a separate package12:05
loollilstevie: You want to install libc6-i38612:06
loollilstevie: You can strace your binary to see which actual file is missing12:06
lilstevie/opt/toolchains/arm-2009q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: no such file or directoy12:06
lilsteviedirectory*12:07
loollilstevie: Ok; that sounds like missing 32-bits ld-linux; run strace -etrace=file /opt/toolchains/arm-2009q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc12:07
lilsteviehttp://pastie.org/149239812:09
dmartlool: I don't think we're using quiet or splash... this is just a BSP bringup problem.12:10
lilstevielool: installing libc6-i386 fixed :)12:11
lilsteviehm, ogra i get an error off that initramfs telling me it is the wrong datatype12:43
lilsteviecause it is aparently not cpio12:44
ograits gzipped cpio12:55
sveinseHmm. It seems getting rootstock to use more than "maverick" (e.g. maverick-updates and maverick-security) isn't as trivial as I hoped it would be. It seems debootstrap doesn't do a full "apt-get" resolution of the latest package. It seems to be locked against maverick/main. Objections?12:57
lilstevieyeah i figured it out12:58
lilsteviei ended up checking it with file12:58
lilsteviediscovered that it was gzip12:58
lilsteviewas a bit of a facepalm moment :/12:58
sveinseSo perhaps it's better to rootstock/debootstrap and then do a apt-get upgrade after installation to get the maverick-security and/or maverick-updates12:59
ograor properly patch rootstock to generate a proper sources.list13:03
ograi.e. by installing and using python-apt13:04
sveinseogra, I've added a --sources option to rootstock where you can provide your own sources.list13:08
sveinseHowever, debootstrap internals doesn't consider anything else than maverick/main13:08
ograsveinse, you could prot rootstock to multistrap ;)13:13
dcordeshi13:28
dcordesIn http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20110123/natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img.gz I get 'No valid session found' after gdm startup. Is it a known problem ?13:30
dcordes/etc/gdm/custom.conf has une-efl13:30
rsalvetidcordes: yup,algo got this with today's image13:44
rsalvetiseems that I'm unable to log-in in any session13:44
ograthats weird13:45
ograbut i think the whole session handling in gnome changed13:45
ograonce unity-2d is the default it should work again13:45
rsalvetiyup, probably because of the gnome update13:48
dcordesrsalveti: any workaround ?13:52
ograwell, teeh gnome desktop session should work13:53
ogra*the13:53
ograrsalveti, so about that xloader prob on omap313:53
ograthe current build script looks for a package named x-loader-omap13:54
rsalvetiI'm now trying to at least log-in at the gnome classic13:54
ograand doesnt find it13:54
ograso i assumed the binary package name changed13:54
dcordesrsalveti: ok hope it works13:54
rsalvetiogra: the package name changed and the mlo path13:55
rsalvetibut if you didn't change, it should still work13:55
ograright13:55
rsalvetias we didn't remove the old package yet13:55
ograhmm13:55
ograweird13:55
ograit doesnt find it13:55
rsalvetihm, ok, we should remove just the omap 4 one13:55
rsalvetithe version changed, but it kind of replaced the old x-loader package13:55
rsalvetiused by omap 313:55
rsalvetithat could be the reason13:56
rsalvetidcordes: gnome classic seems to work13:56
ograhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/557665/13:56
dcordesrsalveti: nice. is it 'gnome-desktop' in custom.conf ?13:56
ograthats what i get in the buildlogs13:56
rsalvetiogra: yup, saw that when you pointed me the logs yesterday13:57
rsalvetidcordes: just select ubuntu classic desktop while log-in13:57
rsalvetiogra: you should now get x-loader-omap3-beagle13:58
dcordesrsalveti: ok. gdm doesn't use custom.conf any longer ?13:58
sveinseogra, I have to admit I know nothing of multistrapping... :(13:58
ograrsalveti, is there a transitional package ?13:59
rsalvetiogra: nops, as this package wasn't installed at any image13:59
ogra(though i'm not sure NCommander's way of extracting it would manage this, iirc he extracts the package directly)13:59
rsalvetiand x-loader-omap doesn't make much sense now, as we also have overo14:00
dcordescan somebody recommend a known working qemu kernel for the current (above) natty builds ? I tried some yetserday and ran into illegal instruction problems which I think were NEON related14:00
rsalvetiand soon have igepv214:00
rsalvetithat are all omap14:00
ograindeed14:00
sveinsein regards of the igepv2: Are there any efforts on using the DSP from linux?14:05
sveinseor more specifically: ubuntu14:06
rcn-eesveinse, it's possible with natty's 2.6.37 kernel, (dspbridge), just need to package 2 git project (dsp-gst, dsp-tools) then package the ti codec's..14:13
ograrsalveti, http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/x/x-loader/ has not a single natty build, did anyone care for getting the newly natty binaries to main yet ?14:36
rsalvetiogra: hm, lp says it's published14:36
rsalvetior this is something that lp is not yet tracking?14:37
ograpublished != main promoted14:37
rsalvetipublish in main14:37
ograthat only means it went into the archive14:37
rsalveti*published14:37
ograand the source is in main14:37
ograbut the binaries werent transitioned14:37
ograhttp://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/universe/x/x-loader/14:37
ograall of them sit in universe14:37
rsalvetihm, ok, sources at main but debs still in universe14:38
ograright14:38
ograan archive admin needs to promote the beagle and panda binaries to main14:38
rsalvetido we need to find a bug? or just ask someone?14:39
rsalvetiyup, at least beagle and panda14:39
rsalvetidon't know if it's ok for linaro to have overo at universe14:40
rsalvetibut then they can just ask it if it's a problem14:40
ograpitti promotes for us14:40
rsalvetiogra: a lot easier when you ask for it :-)14:41
ograheh14:41
rsalvetiogra: thanks anyway, and sorry for the confusion14:41
ograwell, all fine now14:41
ogranext publisher run we should be fine, i'll adjust the build scripts for the new names and file locations then14:42
rsalveticool14:43
ograok, scripts adjusted14:46
rsalvetiogra: nice, are you firing up another image for it? or just wait until tomorrow?14:47
ograwe will have to wait until the promotion is done, i'll trigger an imagebuild later14:49
rsalvetiok14:49
davidmogra, you about?15:01
ogradavidm, indeed i am15:01
ograsorry, the canonical server kicked me outr15:02
davidmAh was wondering what happened15:02
davidmcool15:02
jcrigbyogra, can bug #683683 be closed out?16:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 683683 in busybox "run-init on omap3, omap4 in natty dies if busybox is built with -marm" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68368316:16
ograjcrigby, no idea, ask the toolchain guys16:16
jcrigbyor is it still a bug but there is a workaround16:16
ograits a toolchain issue16:16
jcrigbyogra, ok16:16
ograthe other tasks are fix released iirc16:16
ograjcrigby, iirc davidgiluk assigned it to gcc (and doko moved it to gcc4.5 or so)16:20
jcrigbyogra, yes I see that.16:20
ograthe prob is that compiling with -marm breaks under 4.5 apparently16:21
ograat least for busybox16:21
jcrigbyogra, right16:21
sveinsedoes anyone have a 101 for lp/bzr?  i *think* I have created a branch within rootstock, but I'm uncertain how to branch from the main branch...16:50
* sveinse finally managed to make his own rootstock branch and commit his patch. First time of lp+bzr has quite a learning curve17:41
* rsalveti brb, late lunch17:42
rcn-ee_at_worksveinse, thanks, i like that change, i'll be able to cleanup some of my roostock for debian tweaks.. ;)17:52
sveinseyeah, I'm working on a custom HW board, and we use rootstock all the time to generate the rootfs images17:53
sveinseso I can't use the official released images17:53
rcn-ee_at_worksame here. ;)17:57
sveinsercn-ee_at_work: running ubuntu or debian on target?18:00
sveinse..presume ubuntu since you're here ;)18:00
rcn-ee_at_workall the above.. ;)  i'm really itching for debian wheezy with armhf.. ;)18:01
sveinseoh? how come?18:01
sveinseWe've selected ubuntu as target OS since this had the best armv7 support when we had to choose18:01
rcn-ee_at_workyeah and it's pretty quick.. (lucid->natty)... but it's still using soft floating point...  so it'll be interesting if ubuntu enables hardfp for natty++ (i'm hoping)18:03
sveinse*that* I can put my vote to!18:03
sveinseis natty particularly faster then maverick? BTW I'm running on omap3 (3530)18:05
rcn-ee_at_worki wouldn't run it yet, as it's not even alpha-2, but it's a more patched gcc with the same compiler settings..18:06
sveinsewheezy will be targeted for armv7?18:07
sveinseI seem to be asking google the wrong questions...18:08
rcn-ee_at_worksveinse, it looks like wheezy will have the older "armel" and a new "armhf" for armv7 stuff .. http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort18:09
sveinseah hf=hard float... thanks18:09
Martynnatty boots on the pandaboard nicely18:13
Martynnot so much on the Versatile Express .. yet18:13
MartynAre there any known issues getting a graphic boot on the pandaboard at the moment?18:19
ograrcn-ee_at_work, sveinse, ubuntu will have hf in about two releases19:02
rcn-ee_at_workthanks, ogra cool..19:04
ograprobably before wheezy :)19:04
rcn-ee_at_work;) for those that wait for the 'release'.. ;)19:05
ograindeed19:05
rcn-ee_at_workprobally about 2 years just like squeeze...19:05
ograthe current debian hf port uses the ubuntu toolchain i think19:05
rcn-ee_at_workyeah it's that linaro/ubuntu gcc-4.5.19:06
ograright19:06
dcordesrsalveti: tried out the gnome desktop session and it works19:37
dcordesrsalveti: somehow metacity didn't show up once19:37
rsalvetidcordes: check bug 70701419:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 707014 in netbook-launcher-efl "Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D fails to launch from gdm by giving "No valid session found"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70701419:38
GrueMasterIs this possibly due to a change in jasper-initramfs?19:38
rsalvetinops19:38
rsalvetignome-session19:38
GrueMaster(I'm just now booting today's image).19:38
GrueMasterHmmm19:39
dcordesrsalveti: cool thanks19:41
dcordes-Exec=gnome-session19:43
dcordes+Exec=gnome-session --session=une-efl19:43
rsalvetiand a new file19:44
dcordesok19:44
rsalvetiune-efl.session at /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions19:44
dcordesit would be nice to be able to change the gnome-panel in nbl efl19:45
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dcordesrsalveti: is there a way to do this except for using a converted gnome session? I had bad experience with that with nbl not coming up20:06
rsalvetidcordes: why you don't want to use a gnome-session for that?20:07
dcordesI'm not sure about how to start netbook-launcher-efl correctly when doing it manually20:08
dcordesjust putt it in the session startup  before but it didn't come up sometimes20:08
dcordeseven with large delay20:08
dcordesthat was in maverick release images20:10
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LetoThe2ndjust giving rootstock a little try. when i follow the guide in the wiki and fire up the image in qemu, it fails with segmentation fault.20:30
rsalvetiLetoThe2nd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootStock/KnownIssues20:30
rsalvetiI think we have the fix for at least 2 bugs, but not yet packaged20:31
LetoThe2ndrsalveti: so what to do? checkout trunk and use that?20:31
rsalvetibug is not related with rootstock, it's probably qemu20:32
LetoThe2ndrsalveti: just built it from scratch... might it be fixed in the ubuntu repos? probably not, i'd guess...20:33
ograrsalveti, before you add that file to /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions talk to didrocks, there is a certain naming scheme that has to be used i was told20:33
ogra(great that there is a fix !)20:34
rsalvetiogra: oh, ok20:37
ograi think the distro name needs to be in the filename20:37
ograi had to make unity-2d 2d-ubuntu20:37
rsalveticould be, let me check with him20:38
GrueMasterThat will suck.  Not good if people want to try different launchers.20:39
ogra??20:39
ograpeople will never see that file20:40
ograits just a naming convention for the .session files that gnome put in place20:40
ograwont matter if you call it efl-ubuntu or foo-ubuntu or whatever, you can still select the efl launcher in gdm20:41
rsalvetiwell, just got applied by janimo, but will talk to didrocks once he's on-line20:42
ograthanks20:42
ograwith luck i'll kick out efl on wed. :)20:42
rsalveti:-)20:42
ograthough there might be a MIR blocker ...20:43
ogra-2d is currently untranslatable20:43
ogra(there is no gettext support yet)20:43
rsalvetihm20:46
ogranot sure i can get it past the MIR team that way, there are plans for gettext support, but no code or anything20:48
LetoThe2ndbottom line - is qemu always segfaults with "qemu: fatal: VS[LR]I.64 not implemented", is there any way to get started with rootstock, or is this just a showstopper for now?20:48
rsalvetiLetoThe2nd: what qemu version are you using?20:48
rsalvetiand what ubuntu version20:48
LetoThe2ndjd@tabr:~/rootstock$ qemu-system-arm --version20:48
LetoThe2ndQEMU PC emulator version 0.12.5 (qemu-kvm-0.12.5), Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard20:48
LetoThe2ndubuntu 10.10, amd64.20:49
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, are you trying to build a 'natty' arm rootfs?20:49
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: just trying to get started with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch20:49
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, just for reference, can you pastebin your full 'rootstock' command..20:50
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: of course. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/326221/20:51
rcn-ee_at_workyeah, your aren't giving qemu any chance with that...  unless you run it on an armel machine, xubuntu-desktop is going to kill qemu...20:53
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: ok, trying it without seed now.20:56
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: is there any particular reason why xubuntu kills qemu? or what other packages will have the same effect?20:56
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, well just something less entensive for the inital install..20:56
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, it varies on release, some *.deb packages cause issues when installed thru qemu...  Ever since lucid it's been a pain in the rear to track down..20:58
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: i see.... strange. the message would indicate something missing in qemu's instruction set, so i'd guess it could happen with any package if the compiler only decided to put in that one instruction.21:00
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: taking away the seed, the emulated system does not segfault, but just stop with a blinking cursor after leaving the kernels boot. :-/21:04
rcn-ee_at_workare you dumping any info to the serial console?21:10
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: no, just stating with the exact example command given on the wiki page.21:10
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, in your previous message "the emulated system does not segfault, but just stop with a blinking cursor" do you have a serial console for debugging21:12
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: ok, probably stupid question - where?21:14
LetoThe2ndqemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel ./vmlinuz -hda qemu-armel-201101242154.img -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M devtmpfs.mount=0 rw"21:14
LetoThe2ndqemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel ./vmlinuz -hda qemu-armel-201101242154.img -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M devtmpfs.mount=0 rw"21:14
LetoThe2ndohsry for doubleposting.21:14
rcn-ee_at_workah, booting the image with qemu... sorry haven't done that for atleast a year...21:16
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: for the protocol, i try to start following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch ... hoping that the "demo" commands provide a working starting point.21:17
rcn-ee_at_workLetoThe2nd, based on the age of that wiki document, i bet it was with karmic's default, so you need to add "--dist karmic" but that's pretty old..21:22
TheUnirsalveti: around?21:37
rsalvetiTheUni: yup21:37
TheUnirsalveti: i've just merged our massive code refactor, i'd like to begin working with you on an evaluation when you get a chance21:38
TheUni(xbmc)21:38
rsalvetiTheUni: awesome, I can try to check this out this week and focus more on next week21:39
rsalvetias we moved it to alpha 321:39
TheUniyep, i saw21:39
rsalvetiTheUni: did you create any release for it? or basically current trunk?21:40
TheUnirsalveti: current master. release is still a ways out21:40
rsalvetinp, will try to check that out21:42
TheUnirsalveti: as i've mentioned, you might not target for natty, but we would greatly appreciate some ideas when it comes to packaging. what we've got currently is a monstrosity :)21:42
rsalvetihaha, np21:42
rsalvetilet's see what we can at least get for natty21:42
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: for the protocol: it works with dist karmic.21:56
rcn-ee_at_workyeah, karmic's easier for qemu... compile for armv6 vs armv7 + thumb for lucid/maverick/natty...21:57
LetoThe2ndrcn-ee_at_work: gotta read up a bit on qemus changes, maybe a more recent trunk might do :-)21:58

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