[07:42] <zach32> hi can anyone help me with installing the osx Leopard theme on ubuntu
[08:02] <zniavre_> is it really an help to to that ?
[08:02] <zniavre_> :o)
[08:14] <zniavre_> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4Lin?content=108478
[10:16] <iainfarrell> hey there evilvish
[10:29] <evilvish> iainfarrell: hey..
[10:29] <iainfarrell> hey evilvish
[10:30] <iainfarrell> people are still complaining that they can't log in
[10:30] <evilvish> hmm.. thats weird..
[10:30] <iainfarrell> on the non photo sute
[10:30] <iainfarrell> site
[10:30] <iainfarrell> have a look on the blog
[10:30] <evilvish> well, it might be that they cant submit..
[10:30]  * evilvish checks..
[10:32] <coz_> what is the link ..let me try
[10:32] <evilvish> coz_: http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/
[10:32] <evilvish> submit is broken..
[10:33] <evilvish> iainfarrell: yea.. they are complaining about not being able to submit..
[10:33] <evilvish> iainfarrell: regarding the submit, you mentioned you were going to follow up with doctormo … what happened?
[10:34] <iainfarrell> evilvish: I had a day job ;) I'll have to ask him when he's online later on. I just wondered if you guys knew anything about it
[10:35] <evilvish> lol!
[10:35] <iainfarrell> :)
[10:35] <evilvish> iainfarrell: last i spoke to doctormo he mentioned that he is not a PHP dev and that there is nothing much he can do right now.. could you get richardlee or someone else who knows php to look into it?
[10:35] <iainfarrell> evilvish: sadly not, we're all a bit stacked at the moment and can't spare him to look at this
[10:36] <coz_> ooo it made me recover a password     I hope i can change it  let me check
[10:36] <iainfarrell> is there anyone else helping to run the site?
[10:36] <evilvish> iainfarrell: i asked another person too.. but he was lost as well.. :(
[10:36] <evilvish> iainfarrell: if all else fails.. just open an lp bug report and ask people to add files to the bug :D
[10:37]  * darkmatter rawrs loadly
[10:37] <darkmatter> loudly*
[10:39] <iainfarrell> darkmatter: I liked loadly
[10:39] <iainfarrell> has weight ;)
[10:39] <coz_> :)
[10:40] <darkmatter> haha
[10:41] <darkmatter> I'm just overly happy because my walk triggered an epiphany or 12 ;P
[10:43] <evilvish> iainfarrell: launchpad can handle both svg and png attachments.. so wont be an issue.. (that is if we cant get someone to spend an hour on the site..)
[10:44] <coz_> uploading is definilty not working :)
[10:45] <iainfarrell> darkmatter: glad to hear it
[10:45] <iainfarrell> ;)
[10:46] <iainfarrell> evilvish: we can't have people uploading to LP
[10:46] <iainfarrell> that's ridiculous
[10:46] <evilvish> yea.. ;)
[10:46] <iainfarrell> I'll chat to DocMO and if all else fails
[10:46] <iainfarrell> I think we move to Flickr
[10:46] <iainfarrell> because Yahoo's engineers can worry about keeping the site up
[10:46] <iainfarrell> and it's easy to search
[10:46] <iainfarrell> and easy to upload to
[10:47] <iainfarrell> we need something that's reliable
[10:47] <coz_> ooo   I really dont know how to use flickr
[10:47] <evilvish> iainfarrell: you could rather use deviantart instead..
[10:47] <thorwil> evilvish: don't make me puke
[10:48] <evilvish> thorwil: will wiki do it?
[10:48] <iainfarrell> evilvish: It's not a very easy site to use, neither is a wiki
[10:48] <iainfarrell> we're already on Flickr
[10:48] <evilvish> thorwil: i mean the final touch to puking ;p
[10:48] <iainfarrell> and as the wallpaper contest is there already
[10:48] <iainfarrell> for photos
[10:48] <iainfarrell> and you can categorise an image
[10:48] <thorwil> evilvish: final touch? it might trigger turning inside out!
[10:48] <iainfarrell> as an illustration or photo or other
[10:48] <iainfarrell> so would make filtering for judging very east
[10:49] <iainfarrell> *easy
[10:49] <thorwil> yaya, flickr easily beats our alternatives that happen to not work at all
[10:49] <iainfarrell> thorwil: exactly and we want this non photo wallpaper to be successful
[10:50] <iainfarrell> would hate for submissions to be low because the site doesn't work
[10:50] <thorwil> it still sucks for limiting resolution for free accounts and being a proprietary service that we then push unto people
[10:50] <evilvish> iainfarrell: well.. IMO, it is better if you could squeeze one hour out of richardlee.. saves a lot of hasstle ;)
[10:50] <iainfarrell> evilvish: I don't know it's just an hour and he's not mine to use as I see fit
[10:50] <iainfarrell> and it's still a bodge
[10:50] <evilvish> :p
[10:51] <iainfarrell> what if it happens again? We agreed to set it up at UDS and it's not working yet, doesn't bode well
[10:51] <evilvish> iainfarrell: well, worst case if he spends one hour you would know the site is unfixable and we switch to flickr
[10:51] <iainfarrell> I'm just trying to avoid getting messages from frustrated people who'd like to contribute
[10:51] <iainfarrell> but again evilvish he has a lot to be getting on with which effects the launch of Natty for Canonical so I can't just go get an hour of his time
[10:51] <iainfarrell> I'll catch up with Doc when he's up
[10:52] <iainfarrell> see what he knows
[10:52] <evilvish> cool.. :)
[10:52] <evilvish> doctormo: ^^
[10:52] <thorwil> iainfarrell: as unhappy as i am with flickr, if i were you, i would have said: forget that owl thing, we move to flickr last week already
[10:55] <iainfarrell> thorwil: We've still got plenty of time if I get a blog post out today/ tomorrow and I didn't want to just say we're switching because it's a team effort, we all agreed to try the new site on a sunny day in Florida :)
[10:55] <iainfarrell> but I think we're at that point
[10:55] <iainfarrell> it's just over a month
[10:55] <iainfarrell> and people need to know where to put submissions
[10:55] <iainfarrell> thanks for being agreeable to the idea though
[10:57] <coz_> whoa I did flickr  :)   http://www.flickr.com/photos/57304627@N04/
[11:01] <thorwil> *standing ovations* :)
[11:01] <coz_> thorwil,  lol  well its about time  I suppose... I really didnt want to use flicker but ,...
[11:04] <evilvish> coz_: dont tell troy you uploaded your stuff! ;p
[11:04] <coz_> evilvish,  :)  I am as we speak
[11:05] <thorwil> coz_: https://launchpad.net/~t-w-/+archive/ppa should also work for Natty, now. would you be so kind to try it?
[11:08] <coz_> thorwil,  ah cool
[11:16] <coz_> ok enough for flickr uploades
[11:24] <coz_> ok 9  is enough   http://www.flickr.com/photos/57304627@N04/
[11:27] <darkmatter> coz_: very nice. upload moar :D
[11:27] <coz_> darkmatter,  ah  I dont know .... I am looking at some of my old stuff ...maybe upload 3 more
[11:33] <coz_> ok definitley done for now
[11:34] <darkmatter> meh. I'm considering starting work on library/filer/<insert various other functions here> component of Sojourn tomorrow, but maybe I should just wait for a relatively stable gtk+3 so I don't have to port crap to the new api
[11:35] <coz_> darkmatter,  that sounds reasonable
[11:38] <darkmatter> coz_: the modular app shell (using webkit) for things like the messaging centre. photo gallery, etc. but still needs reliance on gtk. I think I told you about the idea before. pretty much have it nailed conceptually. so want to get a basic build out there so I can start dragging people in for funtimes ;D
[11:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  yes I remember...  :)
[11:42] <evilvish> haha! Nathan Barley: "today's ridiculous is tomorrow's really cool!"
[11:42]  * evilvish reminded by..  <iainfarrell> that's ridiculous
[11:42]  * evilvish bbl..
[11:50] <darkmatter> coz_: and as far as "workspaces" go (well, not really workspaces, but same general concept), I was thining instead of crudely flipping/sliding about, have sort of a panoramic approach, or more accurately "screen can be bigger than display" feel and allow for smoothly switching while watching the scenery roll by. not really a necessity, but if I can make it work would be a nice "natural" feeling bling :P
[13:27] <Viper550> oh hello
[14:03] <doctormo> thorwil, iainfarrell, evilvish: Move to flickr, we'll work out how to digg ourselves out of the flickr hole for next release.
[14:03] <doctormo> So long as everyone is aware that flickr remains an issue and that we use it because we have _nothing_ else.
[14:04] <doctormo> I personally, won't be submitting to the contest however, I don't have a flickr account. So I'm going to be a rare instance.
[14:04] <doctormo> But I think you're all right, of course, we need something that works.
[14:05] <doctormo> Although iainfarrell, we were trying to use an experimental cchost deployment for production, we tried, it failed, no loss. We'll try something else next time.
[14:05] <doctormo> Maybe something not php *shudder* maybe something python based so we can get it deployed onto Canonical servers.
[14:06] <iainfarrell> doctormo: ok, thanks for getting back
[14:07] <doctormo> iainfarrell: The specifics of the issue: the sys-admin upgraded from hardy to lucid, the php version jumped and the cchost fell over permanently.
[18:21] <Sud0_> Hey guys
[18:27] <Viper550> Are any of you good at fonts?
[18:30] <thorwil> Viper550: what do you mean with good at fonts?
[18:31] <Viper550> well, good at working with/making font glyphs/such
[18:32] <thorwil> Viper550: well, i sometimes create custom type for logos. doesn't make me a type designer
[18:33] <Viper550> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Fonts the font we got here is nice, but its missing quite a few international glyphs
[18:34] <Sud0_> What Photo Editing Program do you all use?