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TonyBurngood morning09:50
TonyBurngood afternoon12:59
brobostigonafternoonings all.14:50
TonyBurnlo15:01
brobostigonafternoonings TonyBurn15:02
TonyBurnwhats happening?15:03
brobostigonTonyBurn: umm, not much, tobe honest.15:03
TonyBurnfair enough15:04
brobostigonTonyBurn: only was, i got rid of the native gmail app inandroid 2.3, and replaced it with k9.15:06
brobostigon(ilike that name, k9)15:06
TonyBurnthe film was a bit crap i believe15:10
TonyBurnwhat android phone you got?15:10
TonyBurni had a play on angrybirds on my mrs htc desire last night, it was quite good15:10
TonyBurni thought it would be terrible compared to iphone version15:11
brobostigonTonyBurn: htc dream.15:11
TonyBurnthink that is a little earlier then desire isn't it?15:15
TonyBurni'd like a play with the galaxy s tbh15:15
brobostigonTonyBurn: the htc dream, was the very first android dev phone.15:16
TonyBurnlooking forward to honeycomb15:27
TonyBurnit might inspire to find a reason to own a tablet15:27
brobostigonit will be interesting, to see the gui.15:27
markjoneshiya brobostigon, ianto and TonyBurn17:16
iantoHi17:16
brobostigonafternoonings markjones and ianto17:16
markjonesi've still got to Work on the presentation17:17
brobostigonmarkjones: i have got a feeling i am going to have strees over here tonight, so i maynot beable to help much.17:22
markjonesthat's fine brobostigon17:22
brobostigonsorry,17:23
markjonesdon't be, I get stressed too :)17:23
brobostigon:)17:24
iantomarkjones: I recommend that you sign up to "watch" the 2011 page on the Wiki17:45
iantoImma go sleep for now, brb later17:46
TonyBurnsleep?!?19:15
markjoneshe's a student19:16
TonyBurnahh, i remember those days19:16
TonyBurni bought my work laptop home with me cos i was finshing something and i'm still using it for some reason, hateful thing, i cant go back to using anything after my mac19:19
TonyBurnstandard trackpads are utter, utter gash19:19
brobostigonmulti-finger scrolling i do like,on some trackpads.19:20
brobostigonand debian lets me do that, onmy eeepc.19:20
TonyBurni liked multitouch soo much i even bought a magic trackpad19:21
TonyBurni think thats what they were called?19:22
brobostigon:)19:22
TonyBurnthe external apple trackpad thing19:22
brobostigoni think the one in my eeepc is a synaptics.19:22
TonyBurncriminal price @ 60 quid but meh19:22
brobostigonouch19:22
TonyBurntypical apple markup19:22
brobostigonagreed.19:23
markjonesyup, I could be working for Apple19:23
TonyBurnyea?19:23
markjonesgot to find the nerve to write a covering letter19:24
TonyBurnXD19:24
brobostigoniwould want to do some dev on darwin, otherwise i wouldnt be interested,19:24
TonyBurnso still at application stage?19:24
markjonesyup19:24
TonyBurni aplied for a job at ebay today19:25
TonyBurn1 at google last week19:25
TonyBurnand got an interview in the bag for nokia19:25
brobostigon:(19:25
TonyBurnloathe jobhunting19:25
brobostigonlast i applied for was at sirius19:25
TonyBurnthe jobs i'm applying for are all based in germany since i'm intending to move there19:26
TonyBurnasap19:26
brobostigonah.19:27
brobostigonTonyBurn: i spent most of my teenage years ingermany, while my dad was working in germany.19:27
TonyBurncool, my mrs is german and wants to move back to germant to be closer with her family19:27
brobostigon:)19:28
brobostigongood luck.19:28
TonyBurni've grown to despise my job and would like a bit more of a career path19:28
TonyBurnta19:28
brobostigonTonyBurn: you could apply to suse aswell,19:28
TonyBurnyea, might check their site, always wanted to be spat out by attachmate XD19:29
TonyBurnsuse have 2 jobs in all of their germany offices :/19:31
brobostigonhmm.19:31
TonyBurnoh, found another 2 if i go back to 3 months of openings19:33
TonyBurnSoftware Engineer - Architecture Maintenance19:37
TonyBurni could even do that one19:37
TonyBurnname is a bit misleading, desciption is full on datacentre operations tbh19:38
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TonyBurnso brobostigon, are you proficient in C?20:03
brobostigonc++, just been relearning it.20:04
TonyBurnsimilar boat to me maybe then?20:04
TonyBurnspent most my time doing java/c#20:04
TonyBurnnow i want to go back to C and C++20:04
brobostigoni would rather spend my time doing systems design and manegement.20:05
TonyBurnlooking for a project to contribute to and really struggling tbh20:05
brobostigonTonyBurn: haiku-os.org :), something i have beentesting for a while, a floss version of aclosed systemcalled beos i used to use inthe 90's.20:06
TonyBurnwas thinking about something a little less obscure XD20:09
TonyBurnno offence20:09
TonyBurnwhats the main appllication of haiku?20:09
TonyBurnlightweight computing?20:09
brobostigonTonyBurn: as a desktop OS.20:10
brobostigonand with proper smpsupport, and real multi-tasking and multi-threading.20:10
TonyBurnlooking at the homepage now..20:18
brobostigonits really interesting, and is looking so good. and developement is moving so quickly.20:19
TonyBurnhttp://www.haiku-os.org/development/learning_to_program_with_haiku20:23
TonyBurnnicely written guide there20:23
brobostigonvery. some very clever people work on the haiku project,20:24
TonyBurni'm interested, just like something a little more linux oriented though20:26
TonyBurni'll use the guides though ta :)20:27
TonyBurnand deffo run it on a vm out of curiosty20:27
brobostigonTonyBurn: maybe contribute to parts of ubuntu or debian.20:27
brobostigonTonyBurn: runs best in qemu in my experience.20:27
TonyBurnyea, was looking at enlightenment the other day as i used to follow that but the project doesn't seem to be going anywhere imo20:28
brobostigoniwould agree.20:29
TonyBurnmeego is worth a look20:31
TonyBurneither that or do some gui concepts for ubuntu20:32
TonyBurnhad a killer idea the other night20:32
brobostigonTonyBurn: gnome-shell/gnome3 ?20:32
brobostigonTonyBurn: whatwa sit?20:32
TonyBurnin my mission to rid any wasted vertical pixels on open windows20:33
brobostigonyes ?20:33
TonyBurnsort the max/min/close buttons out either integrated into the app window (diffuclt/not possible), or make them mega small only a few px high and then zoom bigger with the mouse hovered over them20:34
TonyBurnin the same way a dock zooms icons when hovered20:34
brobostigoninteresting.20:35
TonyBurnwasted vertical pixels are a pet hate of mine20:35
TonyBurnand window borders20:35
TonyBurnthe other idea i had was for layering windows on the desktop in the same way as you could text/graphics on a desktop publishing package20:36
TonyBurnie bring forward, bring to front etc20:36
brobostigoninteresting also.20:36
TonyBurnthe 'always on top' option is still available and faar too dated20:36
TonyBurnie, i use iplayer, i might want to see it in the popout window20:37
TonyBurni'd want this to hover above a console or something, but dont want all browser windows always on top20:37
TonyBurnthere'd have to be a better way of layering the windows than a DTP package offers though20:38
TonyBurnand a tiling wm isn't the answer for me as i dont have enough desktop space on a laptop to have every window allocated its exclusive space20:39
TonyBurnhaiku installing..20:45
brobostigonhow are you installing?20:47
TonyBurninto virtualbox20:50
brobostigonyou just need to run the vm image, no need to do any installing.20:50
TonyBurnoh i thought i'd download the iso, assuming the image has virtual driver compiled?20:51
brobostigoni dont know anything about virtualbox, so no idea.20:52
markjonesohai ianto22:14
brobostigonnos da, sleep well.23:31
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iantoFinally removed the xmas bit? ;)23:56
markjonesyup23:57
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markjonesheh23:59
markjonesreet boyo23:59
markjonesi needs a llun for "who we are" slide23:59
iantoShould we register #haciaith and put some information on the wiki?23:59
markjonesyeah23:59

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