[09:50] good morning [12:59] good afternoon [14:50] afternoonings all. [15:01] lo [15:02] afternoonings TonyBurn [15:03] whats happening? [15:03] TonyBurn: umm, not much, tobe honest. [15:04] fair enough [15:06] TonyBurn: only was, i got rid of the native gmail app inandroid 2.3, and replaced it with k9. [15:06] (ilike that name, k9) [15:10] the film was a bit crap i believe [15:10] what android phone you got? [15:10] i had a play on angrybirds on my mrs htc desire last night, it was quite good [15:11] i thought it would be terrible compared to iphone version [15:11] TonyBurn: htc dream. [15:15] think that is a little earlier then desire isn't it? [15:15] i'd like a play with the galaxy s tbh [15:16] TonyBurn: the htc dream, was the very first android dev phone. [15:27] looking forward to honeycomb [15:27] it might inspire to find a reason to own a tablet [15:27] it will be interesting, to see the gui. [17:16] hiya brobostigon, ianto and TonyBurn [17:16] Hi [17:16] afternoonings markjones and ianto [17:17] i've still got to Work on the presentation [17:22] markjones: i have got a feeling i am going to have strees over here tonight, so i maynot beable to help much. [17:22] that's fine brobostigon [17:23] sorry, [17:23] don't be, I get stressed too :) [17:24] :) [17:45] markjones: I recommend that you sign up to "watch" the 2011 page on the Wiki [17:46] Imma go sleep for now, brb later [19:15] sleep?!? [19:16] he's a student [19:16] ahh, i remember those days [19:19] i bought my work laptop home with me cos i was finshing something and i'm still using it for some reason, hateful thing, i cant go back to using anything after my mac [19:19] standard trackpads are utter, utter gash [19:20] multi-finger scrolling i do like,on some trackpads. [19:20] and debian lets me do that, onmy eeepc. [19:21] i liked multitouch soo much i even bought a magic trackpad [19:22] i think thats what they were called? [19:22] :) [19:22] the external apple trackpad thing [19:22] i think the one in my eeepc is a synaptics. [19:22] criminal price @ 60 quid but meh [19:22] ouch [19:22] typical apple markup [19:23] agreed. [19:23] yup, I could be working for Apple [19:23] yea? [19:24] got to find the nerve to write a covering letter [19:24] XD [19:24] iwould want to do some dev on darwin, otherwise i wouldnt be interested, [19:24] so still at application stage? [19:24] yup [19:25] i aplied for a job at ebay today [19:25] 1 at google last week [19:25] and got an interview in the bag for nokia [19:25] :( [19:25] loathe jobhunting [19:25] last i applied for was at sirius [19:26] the jobs i'm applying for are all based in germany since i'm intending to move there [19:26] asap [19:27] ah. [19:27] TonyBurn: i spent most of my teenage years ingermany, while my dad was working in germany. [19:27] cool, my mrs is german and wants to move back to germant to be closer with her family [19:28] :) [19:28] good luck. [19:28] i've grown to despise my job and would like a bit more of a career path [19:28] ta [19:28] TonyBurn: you could apply to suse aswell, [19:29] yea, might check their site, always wanted to be spat out by attachmate XD [19:31] suse have 2 jobs in all of their germany offices :/ [19:31] hmm. [19:33] oh, found another 2 if i go back to 3 months of openings [19:37] Software Engineer - Architecture Maintenance [19:37] i could even do that one [19:38] name is a bit misleading, desciption is full on datacentre operations tbh === uc_tumbleweed2 is now known as uc_tumbleweed [20:03] so brobostigon, are you proficient in C? [20:04] c++, just been relearning it. [20:04] similar boat to me maybe then? [20:04] spent most my time doing java/c# [20:04] now i want to go back to C and C++ [20:05] i would rather spend my time doing systems design and manegement. [20:05] looking for a project to contribute to and really struggling tbh [20:06] TonyBurn: haiku-os.org :), something i have beentesting for a while, a floss version of aclosed systemcalled beos i used to use inthe 90's. [20:09] was thinking about something a little less obscure XD [20:09] no offence [20:09] whats the main appllication of haiku? [20:09] lightweight computing? [20:10] TonyBurn: as a desktop OS. [20:10] and with proper smpsupport, and real multi-tasking and multi-threading. [20:18] looking at the homepage now.. [20:19] its really interesting, and is looking so good. and developement is moving so quickly. [20:23] http://www.haiku-os.org/development/learning_to_program_with_haiku [20:23] nicely written guide there [20:24] very. some very clever people work on the haiku project, [20:26] i'm interested, just like something a little more linux oriented though [20:27] i'll use the guides though ta :) [20:27] and deffo run it on a vm out of curiosty [20:27] TonyBurn: maybe contribute to parts of ubuntu or debian. [20:27] TonyBurn: runs best in qemu in my experience. [20:28] yea, was looking at enlightenment the other day as i used to follow that but the project doesn't seem to be going anywhere imo [20:29] iwould agree. [20:31] meego is worth a look [20:32] either that or do some gui concepts for ubuntu [20:32] had a killer idea the other night [20:32] TonyBurn: gnome-shell/gnome3 ? [20:32] TonyBurn: whatwa sit? [20:33] in my mission to rid any wasted vertical pixels on open windows [20:33] yes ? [20:34] sort the max/min/close buttons out either integrated into the app window (diffuclt/not possible), or make them mega small only a few px high and then zoom bigger with the mouse hovered over them [20:34] in the same way a dock zooms icons when hovered [20:35] interesting. [20:35] wasted vertical pixels are a pet hate of mine [20:35] and window borders [20:36] the other idea i had was for layering windows on the desktop in the same way as you could text/graphics on a desktop publishing package [20:36] ie bring forward, bring to front etc [20:36] interesting also. [20:36] the 'always on top' option is still available and faar too dated [20:37] ie, i use iplayer, i might want to see it in the popout window [20:37] i'd want this to hover above a console or something, but dont want all browser windows always on top [20:38] there'd have to be a better way of layering the windows than a DTP package offers though [20:39] and a tiling wm isn't the answer for me as i dont have enough desktop space on a laptop to have every window allocated its exclusive space [20:45] haiku installing.. [20:47] how are you installing? [20:50] into virtualbox [20:50] you just need to run the vm image, no need to do any installing. [20:51] oh i thought i'd download the iso, assuming the image has virtual driver compiled? [20:52] i dont know anything about virtualbox, so no idea. [22:14] ohai ianto [23:31] nos da, sleep well. === markjones changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org | Calendar: http://bit.ly/cSsnOp | Facebook: http://bit.ly/b7LiNM | Members: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/Members | Forum: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org [23:56] Finally removed the xmas bit? ;) [23:57] yup === ianto changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org | Calendar: http://bit.ly/cSsnOp | Facebook: http://bit.ly/b7LiNM | Members: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/Members | Forum: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org | Hacio'r Iaith http://stwnsh.com/23h & http://stwnsh.com/1zf === ianto changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org | Calendar: http://bit.ly/cSsnOp | Facebook: http://bit.ly/b7LiNM | Members: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/Members | Forum: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org | Hacio'r Iaith 29/01/11: http://stwnsh.com/23h & http://stwnsh.com/1zf [23:59] heh [23:59] reet boyo [23:59] i needs a llun for "who we are" slide [23:59] Should we register #haciaith and put some information on the wiki? [23:59] yeah