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| pitti | o/ | 16:00 |
| marjo | o/ | 16:00 |
| bjf | o/ | 16:00 |
| sconklin | o/ | 16:00 |
| * ara waves | 16:00 | |
| jibel | o/ | 16:01 |
| victorp | I am apparently running the meeting today! | 16:02 |
| victorp | lucky me | 16:02 |
| victorp | ready to go? | 16:03 |
| victorp | #startmeeting | 16:03 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:03. The chair is victorp. | 16:03 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:03 |
| victorp | agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-01-17-SR?action=show&redirect=ReleaseTeam%2FMeeting%2FStableReleaseAgenda | 16:03 |
| victorp | today as it is a "in between" meeting | 16:04 |
| victorp | we will try to keep it short | 16:04 |
| victorp | basically status on current SRU and preparation for 10.04.2 candidate | 16:04 |
| victorp | [TOPIC] Current SRU - Regression testing | 16:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Current SRU - Regression testing | 16:04 |
| victorp | sconklin - so both kernels are now uploaded? | 16:05 |
| sconklin | victorp: yes | 16:05 |
| sconklin | Lucid had no reverts or changes | 16:05 |
| victorp | so Lucid is the same kernel from the validation week | 16:05 |
| sconklin | Maverick had one revert of an upstream stable patch that caused regressions for Radeon. | 16:05 |
| sconklin | .. | 16:05 |
| sconklin | yes | 16:05 |
| victorp | excellent | 16:05 |
| victorp | jibel - are we doing the QA testing already ? | 16:06 |
| marjo | victorp: i can give status | 16:06 |
| victorp | ok - go ahead please | 16:06 |
| jibel | marjo, go ahead then | 16:06 |
| marjo | lucid is almost done | 16:06 |
| marjo | amd64 testing in progress | 16:06 |
| marjo | ec2 - hggdh will sync up w/ smoser today and start testing ASAP | 16:06 |
| marjo | .. | 16:06 |
| hggdh | I am preparing to start the ec2 tests | 16:07 |
| marjo | hggdh: thx | 16:07 |
| victorp | marjo - what sort of test targets are we using for Lucid (real hw or vms?) | 16:07 |
| marjo | victorp: real HW w/ VMs as backup | 16:08 |
| victorp | marjo - so are you still ok for completing all tests by 27th? | 16:08 |
| marjo | victorp: yes | 16:08 |
| victorp | great | 16:09 |
| victorp | marjo - any else from QA ? | 16:09 |
| marjo | victorp: no, that's it for now | 16:09 |
| victorp | Ara - can you give us an update on HWCert testing? | 16:09 |
| ara | sure! | 16:10 |
| ara | on Friday we started testing the SRU for Lucid, but the results are not valid, as we are aiming to use the new SRU test suite | 16:10 |
| ara | and those were not run | 16:10 |
| ara | but hopefully that will be fixed today and we will be able to run the suite for Lucid, we will update on those tomorrow at the kernel meeting | 16:11 |
| ara | as for Maverick, we were waiting for the new kernel to be uploaded | 16:11 |
| ara | we hope to be able to finish by Thursday, but right now it is going to be a best effort situation | 16:11 |
| ara | sconklin, what time do you expect the results on Thursday? | 16:12 |
| victorp | Ara - but no later than Mon 31st right? | 16:12 |
| sconklin | I'm confused. | 16:12 |
| victorp | sconklin ? | 16:12 |
| ara | victorp, right, no later than 31st | 16:13 |
| sconklin | We have no further testing except to double check that the revert fixed the radeon problem, and I expect to have that today | 16:13 |
| sconklin | not sure what results Ara refers to | 16:13 |
| ara | sconklin, the certification results | 16:13 |
| victorp | sconklin - I think Ara is referring to the regression testing that certification runs | 16:13 |
| sconklin | oh, that's up to the people who run them. I don't have any tasks dependent on them | 16:14 |
| ara | sconklin, OK | 16:15 |
| ara | victorp, that's all from me | 16:15 |
| victorp | pitti - when are we taking the decision to release the SRUs on the 27th? | 16:15 |
| pitti | victorp: it entirely depends on verification feedback | 16:15 |
| pitti | the packages which don't get verified will just slip | 16:15 |
| victorp | ok | 16:16 |
| pitti | we want to switch over to building CDs from -updates only around start of Februrary AFAIUI | 16:16 |
| pitti | right now the dailies build with -proposed | 16:16 |
| victorp | ok - so any delays on releasing the SRUs will impact the builds of CDs for 10.04.2 ? | 16:16 |
| pitti | unfortunately we only get very little community feedback on maverick | 16:16 |
| ara | pitti, any reason why we don't have a i386 daily? | 16:16 |
| pitti | ara: how do you mean? | 16:17 |
| pitti | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/20110124.1/lucid-desktop-i386.iso | 16:17 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/20110124.1/lucid-desktop-i386.iso | 16:17 |
| ara | pitti, alternate | 16:17 |
| * victorp is closing off the SRU topic and moving to 10.04.2 - ready everyone? | 16:17 | |
| pitti | ara: ah, will check | 16:18 |
| pitti | ara: we certainly mean to have one | 16:18 |
| victorp | [TOPIC] Getting ready for 10.04.2 | 16:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Getting ready for 10.04.2 | 16:18 |
| victorp | skaet plan says: | 16:18 |
| victorp | 1/27 - Martin provides 10.04.2 image candidate built from -updates | 16:18 |
| victorp | 1/28-2/10 - HW Cert does full certification run on 10.04.2 image | 16:18 |
| victorp | pitti are we still on track for the first item? | 16:19 |
| pitti | victorp: we have dailies with -proposed enabled | 16:19 |
| pitti | victorp: I think we want that for now, as there is the new kernel etc. | 16:19 |
| pitti | it's not _that_ critical when exactly we switch to -updates only | 16:19 |
| pitti | once we do, -proposed gets unfrozen | 16:19 |
| pitti | but we don't have a pressing need for that right now | 16:19 |
| victorp | Ara , sconklin - does that impact you? | 16:20 |
| pitti | however, if we have packages on the CDs which we don't get feedback for, we need to do it way before we do the final cert run | 16:20 |
| victorp | pitti - the manual cert run is schedule to start next week | 16:20 |
| sconklin | victorp: no, we'll continue to make kernels, and when things unfreeze can copy from the PPA at that time if needed. | 16:20 |
| ara | pitti, the thing is that we were aiming to do a very likely cert run next week | 16:20 |
| ara | pitti, so we need the cds from -updates | 16:21 |
| pitti | ara: the final one? | 16:21 |
| pitti | ara: ok, but I think we need at least the kernel and d-i in -updates for that, plus a few SRUs which were milestoned | 16:21 |
| ara | pitti, sure, sure, at least the kernel, that's for sure | 16:21 |
| victorp | pitti - we cant start cert testing of 10.04.02 until we finish the SRU testing (same people & same systems doing the test) | 16:22 |
| victorp | ok | 16:22 |
| marjo | pitti: ditto for QA team | 16:22 |
| ara | so the idea was to have CDs from -updates as soon as the most hw related packages were in -updates | 16:22 |
| pitti | victorp: right, so makes sense to verify the current SRUs first | 16:22 |
| marjo | pitti: +1 | 16:23 |
| ara | indeed | 16:23 |
| pitti | ara: right; from then on we need to take care to only let stuff into -updates which isn't hw specific and can be tested independently | 16:23 |
| victorp | to summarise - we need to have the current SRU kernel moved to -updates before we can create a CD that HW cert & QA can start doing the testing for 10.04.2 | 16:23 |
| * victorp looking for anyone that don't agrees | 16:23 | |
| victorp | pitti +! | 16:24 |
| victorp | +1 | 16:24 |
| hggdh | doesn't that mean that you cannot test the SRU until it is approved? | 16:24 |
| victorp | hggdh - we can test the SRU now | 16:25 |
| victorp | We shouldn't build the 10.04.2 CDs from -update until the SRU is approved | 16:25 |
| hggdh | victorp: ah, sorry | 16:25 |
| victorp | hggdh - no worries | 16:25 |
| victorp | [TOPIC] Any other business? | 16:26 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other business? | 16:26 |
| victorp | going once | 16:26 |
| victorp | going twice | 16:27 |
| victorp | #endofmeeting | 16:27 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 16:27 |
| marjo | thx victorp! | 16:27 |
| victorp | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:27. | 16:27 |
| ara | thanks victorp | 16:27 |
| victorp | thanks to all for participating! | 16:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | I just quietly observed :) | 16:27 |
| pedro_ | thanks all | 16:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | Just a small question....what is SRU | 16:28 |
| hggdh | MrChrisDruif: Stable Release Update | 16:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks :) | 16:28 |
| jibel | MrChrisDruif, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates , and you are very welcome if you want to help to verify the fixes at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 16:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | SRU is like the next dot-release? | 16:32 |
| hggdh | MrChrisDruif: no SRU is any update to a stable release. a dot-release is basically a new sync point: all SRUs applicable are woven in a dot-release | 16:34 |
| hggdh | so installing a dot-release is equivalent to installing the base relase PLUS all SRUs up to the dot-release | 16:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, makes sense then :) | 16:35 |
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| mdeslaur | jdstrand, sbeattie, kees, jjohansen: meeting? | 18:03 |
| jjohansen | o/ | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | sure | 18:04 |
| kees | mdeslaur: \o/ | 18:05 |
| * sbeattie waves | 18:06 | |
| mdeslaur | who's first? | 18:06 |
| kees | mdeslaur: you! :) | 18:06 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | So I'm on community this week | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | and I'm working on hplip updates | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | will also be testing dovecot and subversion | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | hopefully releasing them all this week | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | and will go down the list after that | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | that's it! | 18:08 |
| mdeslaur | NEXT! | 18:08 |
| kees | me me | 18:08 |
| kees | I'm auditing this week | 18:08 |
| mdeslaur | kees: tag, you're it! | 18:08 |
| kees | I've got a few from IS I need to do, and I'm probably going to report a few things on freerdp. found some non-exploitable crashes due to integer overflow, etc | 18:08 |
| kees | going to see about refreshing our CVE pool for 2011 | 18:09 |
| kees | that's it from me | 18:09 |
| mdeslaur | \o/ | 18:09 |
| kees | sbeattie: you're it! | 18:09 |
| mdeslaur | whoops..that was for the cve pool, not for you being done :) | 18:09 |
| kees | hehe | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | heh | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | I'm on triage this week. | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | Also, I've got openjdk, but am *still* waiting on one build. | 18:11 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: wow...just...wow | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | yeah. | 18:12 |
| sbeattie | other than that, I may poke at a few apparmor things this week. | 18:12 |
| sbeattie | that's it from me. | 18:12 |
| kees | good patch in over the weekend on network logprof updates | 18:13 |
| jjohansen | yeah, I was just looking at those | 18:13 |
| sbeattie | heh, I was also looking at that this morning. | 18:13 |
| jjohansen | s/those/that | 18:14 |
| sbeattie | (as well as slowly going through jeffm's other patches) | 18:14 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: oh thanks, I have been meaning to get to that | 18:14 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen: yeah, sorry, I didn't more visibly announce that, but it's been a slow process. | 18:14 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: np, its not like I've been looking at it, just had a vague intention to get to it some day | 18:15 |
| sbeattie | anyway, that's it from me. | 18:17 |
| sbeattie | does anyone else have anything for the security team? jjohansen? | 18:17 |
| * jdstrand hasn't gone yet | 18:18 | |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: doh! | 18:18 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 18:18 |
| sbeattie | sorry | 18:18 |
| jdstrand | no worries :) | 18:18 |
| jdstrand | I am working on dbus-glib this week. after that I plan to talk with jj about confining dbus/applications that use dbus | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | depending on how those work out, I'll likely work on moodle | 18:19 |
| jjohansen | hehe, and here I was going to say skipping jdstrand just means he doesn't need to talk to me this week about dbus :) | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | that's it from me | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | hehe | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | oh, it seems a firefox and tbird update is imminent-- I might have to work on that | 18:20 |
| jjohansen | ouch, I have a feeling I am going to be preempted again | 18:20 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: probably not. I just have to look at a couple of things | 18:22 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: sure, sure ... :) | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, it's not due until 8th feb ;) | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | you've got a little bit of time yet | 18:22 |
| jdstrand | cool | 18:22 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: actually, I thought of a way to do it all without messing with ipc, but need an api in libapparmor1 and an extremely fast implementation of that call | 18:23 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: let me look at things though | 18:23 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: hrmm, okay /me is interested to discuss | 18:24 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: /me is concerned about the extremely fast part | 18:24 |
| * jjohansen is thinking we will have to do some caching in userspace for "extremely fast", context switches just aren't fast | 18:25 | |
| jdstrand | yeah, we'd need to talk about it | 18:25 |
| jjohansen | yep, later then :) | 18:26 |
| jdstrand | is there anything else for the security team? | 18:26 |
| mdeslaur | zzzzzzz | 18:27 |
| jdstrand | alrighty then :) | 18:27 |
| jdstrand | thanks everyone! | 18:27 |
| mdeslaur | thanks! | 18:27 |
| kees | thanks! | 18:27 |
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