=== gpc is now known as Gulfstream === Gulfstream is now known as gpc === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === doko__ is now known as doko === fader_ is now known as fader === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [15:56] ~ô~ [15:56] * pedro_ waves [15:57] * charlie-tca waves, too === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] * ara waves [16:01] o/ [16:02] I am apparently running the meeting today! [16:02] lucky me [16:03] ready to go? [16:03] #startmeeting [16:03] Meeting started at 10:03. The chair is victorp. [16:03] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:03] agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-01-17-SR?action=show&redirect=ReleaseTeam%2FMeeting%2FStableReleaseAgenda [16:04] today as it is a "in between" meeting [16:04] we will try to keep it short [16:04] basically status on current SRU and preparation for 10.04.2 candidate [16:04] [TOPIC] Current SRU - Regression testing [16:04] New Topic: Current SRU - Regression testing [16:05] sconklin - so both kernels are now uploaded? [16:05] victorp: yes [16:05] Lucid had no reverts or changes [16:05] so Lucid is the same kernel from the validation week [16:05] Maverick had one revert of an upstream stable patch that caused regressions for Radeon. [16:05] .. [16:05] yes [16:05] excellent [16:06] jibel - are we doing the QA testing already ? [16:06] victorp: i can give status [16:06] ok - go ahead please [16:06] marjo, go ahead then [16:06] lucid is almost done [16:06] amd64 testing in progress [16:06] ec2 - hggdh will sync up w/ smoser today and start testing ASAP [16:06] .. [16:07] I am preparing to start the ec2 tests [16:07] hggdh: thx [16:07] marjo - what sort of test targets are we using for Lucid (real hw or vms?) [16:08] victorp: real HW w/ VMs as backup [16:08] marjo - so are you still ok for completing all tests by 27th? [16:08] victorp: yes [16:09] great [16:09] marjo - any else from QA ? [16:09] victorp: no, that's it for now [16:09] Ara - can you give us an update on HWCert testing? [16:10] sure! [16:10] on Friday we started testing the SRU for Lucid, but the results are not valid, as we are aiming to use the new SRU test suite [16:10] and those were not run [16:11] but hopefully that will be fixed today and we will be able to run the suite for Lucid, we will update on those tomorrow at the kernel meeting [16:11] as for Maverick, we were waiting for the new kernel to be uploaded [16:11] we hope to be able to finish by Thursday, but right now it is going to be a best effort situation [16:12] sconklin, what time do you expect the results on Thursday? [16:12] Ara - but no later than Mon 31st right? [16:12] I'm confused. [16:12] sconklin ? [16:13] victorp, right, no later than 31st [16:13] We have no further testing except to double check that the revert fixed the radeon problem, and I expect to have that today [16:13] not sure what results Ara refers to [16:13] sconklin, the certification results [16:13] sconklin - I think Ara is referring to the regression testing that certification runs [16:14] oh, that's up to the people who run them. I don't have any tasks dependent on them [16:15] sconklin, OK [16:15] victorp, that's all from me [16:15] pitti - when are we taking the decision to release the SRUs on the 27th? [16:15] victorp: it entirely depends on verification feedback [16:15] the packages which don't get verified will just slip [16:16] ok [16:16] we want to switch over to building CDs from -updates only around start of Februrary AFAIUI [16:16] right now the dailies build with -proposed [16:16] ok - so any delays on releasing the SRUs will impact the builds of CDs for 10.04.2 ? [16:16] unfortunately we only get very little community feedback on maverick [16:16] pitti, any reason why we don't have a i386 daily? [16:17] ara: how do you mean? [16:17] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/20110124.1/lucid-desktop-i386.iso [16:17] LINK received: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/20110124.1/lucid-desktop-i386.iso [16:17] pitti, alternate [16:17] * victorp is closing off the SRU topic and moving to 10.04.2 - ready everyone? [16:18] ara: ah, will check [16:18] ara: we certainly mean to have one [16:18] [TOPIC] Getting ready for 10.04.2 [16:18] New Topic: Getting ready for 10.04.2 [16:18] skaet plan says: [16:18] 1/27 - Martin provides 10.04.2 image candidate built from -updates [16:18] 1/28-2/10 - HW Cert does full certification run on 10.04.2 image [16:19] pitti are we still on track for the first item? [16:19] victorp: we have dailies with -proposed enabled [16:19] victorp: I think we want that for now, as there is the new kernel etc. [16:19] it's not _that_ critical when exactly we switch to -updates only [16:19] once we do, -proposed gets unfrozen [16:19] but we don't have a pressing need for that right now [16:20] Ara , sconklin - does that impact you? [16:20] however, if we have packages on the CDs which we don't get feedback for, we need to do it way before we do the final cert run [16:20] pitti - the manual cert run is schedule to start next week [16:20] victorp: no, we'll continue to make kernels, and when things unfreeze can copy from the PPA at that time if needed. [16:20] pitti, the thing is that we were aiming to do a very likely cert run next week [16:21] pitti, so we need the cds from -updates [16:21] ara: the final one? [16:21] ara: ok, but I think we need at least the kernel and d-i in -updates for that, plus a few SRUs which were milestoned [16:21] pitti, sure, sure, at least the kernel, that's for sure [16:22] pitti - we cant start cert testing of 10.04.02 until we finish the SRU testing (same people & same systems doing the test) [16:22] ok [16:22] pitti: ditto for QA team [16:22] so the idea was to have CDs from -updates as soon as the most hw related packages were in -updates [16:22] victorp: right, so makes sense to verify the current SRUs first [16:23] pitti: +1 [16:23] indeed [16:23] ara: right; from then on we need to take care to only let stuff into -updates which isn't hw specific and can be tested independently [16:23] to summarise - we need to have the current SRU kernel moved to -updates before we can create a CD that HW cert & QA can start doing the testing for 10.04.2 [16:23] * victorp looking for anyone that don't agrees [16:24] pitti +! [16:24] +1 [16:24] doesn't that mean that you cannot test the SRU until it is approved? [16:25] hggdh - we can test the SRU now [16:25] We shouldn't build the 10.04.2 CDs from -update until the SRU is approved [16:25] victorp: ah, sorry [16:25] hggdh - no worries [16:26] [TOPIC] Any other business? [16:26] New Topic: Any other business? [16:26] going once [16:27] going twice [16:27] #endofmeeting [16:27] thanks everyone [16:27] thx victorp! [16:27] #endmeeting [16:27] Meeting finished at 10:27. [16:27] thanks victorp [16:27] thanks to all for participating! [16:27] I just quietly observed :) [16:28] thanks all [16:28] Just a small question....what is SRU [16:28] MrChrisDruif: Stable Release Update [16:28] Thanks :) [16:30] MrChrisDruif, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates , and you are very welcome if you want to help to verify the fixes at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html [16:32] SRU is like the next dot-release? [16:34] MrChrisDruif: no SRU is any update to a stable release. a dot-release is basically a new sync point: all SRUs applicable are woven in a dot-release [16:35] so installing a dot-release is equivalent to installing the base relase PLUS all SRUs up to the dot-release [16:35] Alright, makes sense then :) === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem === cking is now known as cking-afk === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [18:03] jdstrand, sbeattie, kees, jjohansen: meeting? [18:03] o/ [18:04] sure [18:05] mdeslaur: \o/ [18:06] * sbeattie waves [18:06] who's first? [18:06] mdeslaur: you! :) [18:07] hehe [18:07] So I'm on community this week [18:07] and I'm working on hplip updates [18:07] will also be testing dovecot and subversion [18:07] hopefully releasing them all this week [18:07] and will go down the list after that [18:08] that's it! [18:08] NEXT! [18:08] me me [18:08] I'm auditing this week [18:08] kees: tag, you're it! [18:08] I've got a few from IS I need to do, and I'm probably going to report a few things on freerdp. found some non-exploitable crashes due to integer overflow, etc [18:09] going to see about refreshing our CVE pool for 2011 [18:09] that's it from me [18:09] \o/ [18:09] sbeattie: you're it! [18:09] whoops..that was for the cve pool, not for you being done :) [18:10] hehe [18:10] heh [18:11] I'm on triage this week. [18:11] Also, I've got openjdk, but am *still* waiting on one build. [18:11] sbeattie: wow...just...wow [18:12] yeah. [18:12] other than that, I may poke at a few apparmor things this week. [18:12] that's it from me. [18:13] good patch in over the weekend on network logprof updates [18:13] yeah, I was just looking at those [18:13] heh, I was also looking at that this morning. [18:14] s/those/that [18:14] (as well as slowly going through jeffm's other patches) [18:14] sbeattie: oh thanks, I have been meaning to get to that [18:14] jjohansen: yeah, sorry, I didn't more visibly announce that, but it's been a slow process. [18:15] sbeattie: np, its not like I've been looking at it, just had a vague intention to get to it some day [18:17] anyway, that's it from me. [18:17] does anyone else have anything for the security team? jjohansen? [18:18] * jdstrand hasn't gone yet [18:18] jdstrand: doh! [18:18] hehe [18:18] sorry [18:18] no worries :) [18:19] I am working on dbus-glib this week. after that I plan to talk with jj about confining dbus/applications that use dbus [18:19] depending on how those work out, I'll likely work on moodle [18:19] hehe, and here I was going to say skipping jdstrand just means he doesn't need to talk to me this week about dbus :) [18:19] that's it from me [18:19] hehe [18:20] oh, it seems a firefox and tbird update is imminent-- I might have to work on that [18:20] ouch, I have a feeling I am going to be preempted again [18:22] jjohansen: probably not. I just have to look at a couple of things [18:22] jdstrand: sure, sure ... :) [18:22] jdstrand, it's not due until 8th feb ;) [18:22] you've got a little bit of time yet [18:22] cool [18:23] jjohansen: actually, I thought of a way to do it all without messing with ipc, but need an api in libapparmor1 and an extremely fast implementation of that call [18:23] jjohansen: let me look at things though [18:24] jdstrand: hrmm, okay /me is interested to discuss [18:24] jdstrand: /me is concerned about the extremely fast part [18:25] * jjohansen is thinking we will have to do some caching in userspace for "extremely fast", context switches just aren't fast [18:25] yeah, we'd need to talk about it [18:26] yep, later then :) [18:26] is there anything else for the security team? [18:27] zzzzzzz [18:27] alrighty then :) [18:27] thanks everyone! [18:27] thanks! 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