| fta | dpm, hi | 08:47 |
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| fta | dpm, hi, i realized while testing chromium in some langs that i can't test it properly. i see some (few) untranslated strings but looking at the code, they come straight from gtk. obviously, i don't have all the locales installed. so i'd like some help finding issues. | 09:07 |
| fta | you mentioned a wiki page is the way to go. do you have a template or an example in mind? | 09:08 |
| dpm | hi fta, I don't have a template in mind. What I had in mind for a wiki page was to have: a general explanation on how to translate Chromium, the requirements for a language to be included, and any other info that would be of interest to translators. We could certainly add info on how to test the locales. That's the idea I had. I'd put the page somewhere outside the Ubuntu wiki, since it should be info that is not specific to Ubuntu, but right now, | 09:12 |
| dpm | I don't know where the best place would be. The Chromium wiki seemed a bit too restrictive the last time I looked at it, or at least I could not figure out how to edit it | 09:12 |
| fta | dpm, yep, it seems they recently restricted the creation of new pages | 09:12 |
| fta | i wonder how i can add libgles2-mesa to Depends without breaking the backports... | 12:34 |
| micahg | fta: control.in, add it in d/rules for select releases only | 14:57 |
| fta | micahg, well, i'm not sure i really want to do that. gl could be problematic depending on your h/w | 14:58 |
| fta | same thing with vdpau | 14:59 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I use the apparmor-notify package, maybe it's worth adding to suggests for Firefox? | 15:30 |
| jdstrand | micahg: my inclination is 'no'. people who don't know about apparmor might install it, then see the notifications about other parts of the system. apparmor-notify is intended as a developer tool only | 15:32 |
| jdstrand | micahg: it only reports without giving a method to fix anything | 15:32 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ah, but the only time I get deny messages is from Firefox, so I guess the rest of the profiles are either doing their job | 15:32 |
| jdstrand | micahg: perhaps one day we can have a tool that would do more, but the last thing we want is what we see on fedora, where people are prompted for selinux denials all the time | 15:33 |
| jdstrand | micahg: true. it is useful. perhaps we could update documentation surrounding enabling the firefox profile-- if you do, you might be interested in the apparmor-notify package | 15:34 |
| jdstrand | "if you do, you might be interested in the apparmor-notify package" | 15:34 |
| jdstrand | (ie, I wasn't saying if *you*, micahg, do | 15:34 |
| jdstrand | ) | 15:35 |
| micahg | jdstrand: i know :), I'll look into updating it | 15:35 |
| jdstrand | micahg: great, thanks! :) | 15:36 |
| jdstrand | micahg: you could also mention aa-update-browser and the local/ directory in the same area too, if it isn't already mentioned | 15:36 |
| micahg | jdstrand: can we update the AA profile after feature freeze? | 15:37 |
| jdstrand | micahg: sure. those are bug fixes, not features | 15:37 |
| micahg | jdstrand: cool, thanks | 15:37 |
| * fta is installing apparmor-notify... | 15:51 | |
| * chrisccoulson_ is installing apparmor-notify too | 16:20 | |
| chrisccoulson_ | don't want to miss out :) | 16:21 |
| fta | grrr, we really need a dh_tweak_deps_and_builddeps_for_this_dist_please | 16:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: hi, do you have Fennec done, or just the build system? | 19:41 |
| fta | doh, bad for us: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#Iconvertedmypackagebutitfailstobuildorfailstounpackonallbuildds | 19:44 |
| micahg | err, they should defuzz automatically | 19:46 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, fennec is pretty much done | 19:47 |
| micahg | almost all buildds are belong to us | 21:14 |
| asac | hey gents. so firefox 4.0 crashing... if i hit restart firefox 4.0 in that dialog it _never_ restarts ;) ... known bug (id?) | 21:16 |
| * micahg noticed that too :) | 21:16 | |
| BUGabundo | \o | 21:16 |
| asac | fta: what is chromium using gles for? | 21:17 |
| micahg | asac: the version in natty also or just the dailies? | 21:17 |
| asac | dailies maverick | 21:17 |
| asac | dont have the luxury atm to upgrade ;) | 21:17 |
| fta | asac, some 2D canvas features iirc, maybe webgl too | 21:17 |
| micahg | asac: same as me :) | 21:17 |
| asac | fta: is it using gles on x86 too? nice | 21:18 |
| fta | asac, still watching my patches? ;) | 21:18 |
| asac | fta: whenever i get to those they are usually quite old so i dont spend as much time on them as i would | 21:19 |
| asac | fta: doesnt chromium ship binaries for linux? what are they doing there wrt gles? | 21:22 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: this reminds me: whats the webgl/gles status for ffox | 21:22 |
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| fta | asac, i was quite happy to see my translation power plant finally done, but the lp guys killed me | 21:22 |
| asac | fta: huh? wth happened? | 21:23 |
| fta | asac, you should read my blog :) | 21:23 |
| fta | for gles, they just dlopen the libs if they are installed | 21:23 |
| fta | asac, http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/chromium-translations-explained-part-2/ | 21:28 |
| asac | fta: yeah... from upstream vs. contributions feels buggy as you describe it | 21:28 |
| fta | og | 21:28 |
| fta | oh | 21:28 |
| asac | fta: do you know why the improved translations suddenly became "from upstream" ? | 21:29 |
| asac | fta: do you reimport from your side with all the changes included? | 21:30 |
| fta | asac, no. i feed lp just with the upstream stuff | 21:31 |
| fta | it put a link to the lp announcement | 21:31 |
| fta | asac, https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-translators/msg00256.html | 21:32 |
| fta | i'm in touch with danilo, but he told me Deryck Hodge will take over to solve this | 21:34 |
| asac | kk ... seems its maybe a one time problem and that folks are taking care of that. makes me happy | 21:38 |
| fta | i wanted a low maintenance translation system, but i've spent way too much time on this already | 21:40 |
| fta | asac, did you like my article? :) | 21:43 |
| fta | asac, you asked me so many times to start a blog | 21:43 |
| asac | fta: i retweeted it ;) | 21:46 |
| fta | asac, rate it :) | 21:46 |
| asac | fta: its really awesome content ... not much to add there ;) | 21:46 |
| fta | the indicators are still broken | 22:08 |
| fta | and i still can't use unity | 22:09 |
| fta | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hhnjdplhmcnkiecampfdgfjilccfpfoe | 22:28 |
| chrisccoulson | hi asac | 22:56 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 22:56 |
| chrisccoulson | ffox has gles support AFAICT, but we don't actually build it | 22:56 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: could you please try that? | 22:58 |
| asac | at least on arm ... | 22:58 |
| asac | at best some builds for intel would be nice as well | 22:58 |
| asac | with gallium etc. you can have accelerated gles for some x86 video chips | 22:59 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, i could try that. i think i'd need to do a build system hack for that though. it currently selects gles automatically only for maemo and android builds | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | (from what i can see from the makefile anyway) | 23:00 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yeah. that needs to be improved ;) | 23:02 |
| asac | should select that for linux/arm/gnu in general | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | we could probably make it do that ;) | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | it wouldn't be difficult to fix | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, it's going to be a fun night tonight, my daughter keeps waking up | 23:04 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: good time to continue working then i guess | 23:10 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | this moonlight crasher is really bugging me now | 23:16 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - do you still see that in chromium too? | 23:16 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, i don't use moonlight, but i still see people reporting bugs about it | 23:17 |
| fta | it's when you have both icetea and libmoon | 23:18 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, i can still recreate it sometimes, but i still don't fully understand why it's crashing | 23:19 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - http://is.gd/AANWKL | 23:20 |
| chrisccoulson | there's quite a few now | 23:21 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=49743 | 23:21 |
| fta | i should probably work on integrating breakpad too | 23:23 |
| fta | http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=472 | 23:24 |
| ubot2 | icedtea.classpath.org bug 472 in Plugin "Update of icedtea crashes epiphany" [Normal,New] | 23:24 |
| fta | mix of malloc and tcmalloc? (last comment) | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - interesting. the second link there seems to show a different crash | 23:30 |
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