[08:47] dpm, hi [09:07] dpm, hi, i realized while testing chromium in some langs that i can't test it properly. i see some (few) untranslated strings but looking at the code, they come straight from gtk. obviously, i don't have all the locales installed. so i'd like some help finding issues. [09:08] you mentioned a wiki page is the way to go. do you have a template or an example in mind? [09:12] hi fta, I don't have a template in mind. What I had in mind for a wiki page was to have: a general explanation on how to translate Chromium, the requirements for a language to be included, and any other info that would be of interest to translators. We could certainly add info on how to test the locales. That's the idea I had. I'd put the page somewhere outside the Ubuntu wiki, since it should be info that is not specific to Ubuntu, but right now, [09:12] I don't know where the best place would be. The Chromium wiki seemed a bit too restrictive the last time I looked at it, or at least I could not figure out how to edit it [09:12] dpm, yep, it seems they recently restricted the creation of new pages [12:34] i wonder how i can add libgles2-mesa to Depends without breaking the backports... [14:57] fta: control.in, add it in d/rules for select releases only [14:58] micahg, well, i'm not sure i really want to do that. gl could be problematic depending on your h/w [14:59] same thing with vdpau [15:30] jdstrand: I use the apparmor-notify package, maybe it's worth adding to suggests for Firefox? [15:32] micahg: my inclination is 'no'. people who don't know about apparmor might install it, then see the notifications about other parts of the system. apparmor-notify is intended as a developer tool only [15:32] micahg: it only reports without giving a method to fix anything [15:32] jdstrand: ah, but the only time I get deny messages is from Firefox, so I guess the rest of the profiles are either doing their job [15:33] micahg: perhaps one day we can have a tool that would do more, but the last thing we want is what we see on fedora, where people are prompted for selinux denials all the time [15:34] micahg: true. it is useful. perhaps we could update documentation surrounding enabling the firefox profile-- if you do, you might be interested in the apparmor-notify package [15:34] "if you do, you might be interested in the apparmor-notify package" [15:34] (ie, I wasn't saying if *you*, micahg, do [15:35] ) [15:35] jdstrand: i know :), I'll look into updating it [15:36] micahg: great, thanks! :) [15:36] micahg: you could also mention aa-update-browser and the local/ directory in the same area too, if it isn't already mentioned [15:37] jdstrand: can we update the AA profile after feature freeze? [15:37] micahg: sure. those are bug fixes, not features [15:37] jdstrand: cool, thanks [15:51] * fta is installing apparmor-notify... [16:20] * chrisccoulson_ is installing apparmor-notify too [16:21] don't want to miss out :) [16:40] grrr, we really need a dh_tweak_deps_and_builddeps_for_this_dist_please [19:41] chrisccoulson: hi, do you have Fennec done, or just the build system? [19:44] doh, bad for us: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#Iconvertedmypackagebutitfailstobuildorfailstounpackonallbuildds [19:46] err, they should defuzz automatically [19:47] micahg - yeah, fennec is pretty much done [21:14] almost all buildds are belong to us [21:16] hey gents. so firefox 4.0 crashing... if i hit restart firefox 4.0 in that dialog it _never_ restarts ;) ... known bug (id?) [21:16] * micahg noticed that too :) [21:16] \o [21:17] fta: what is chromium using gles for? [21:17] asac: the version in natty also or just the dailies? [21:17] dailies maverick [21:17] dont have the luxury atm to upgrade ;) [21:17] asac, some 2D canvas features iirc, maybe webgl too [21:17] asac: same as me :) [21:18] fta: is it using gles on x86 too? nice [21:18] asac, still watching my patches? ;) [21:19] fta: whenever i get to those they are usually quite old so i dont spend as much time on them as i would [21:22] fta: doesnt chromium ship binaries for linux? what are they doing there wrt gles? [21:22] chrisccoulson: this reminds me: whats the webgl/gles status for ffox === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (Chromium too!): | Firefox 4.0b9 in Firefox Beta PPA 9.10-10.10 http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Firefox 3.6.14/Thunderbird 3.1.8/Seamonkey 2.0.12 in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.13 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1.7 in Lucid-Natty and Stable PPA | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/hdZc1 [21:22] asac, i was quite happy to see my translation power plant finally done, but the lp guys killed me [21:23] fta: huh? wth happened? [21:23] asac, you should read my blog :) [21:23] for gles, they just dlopen the libs if they are installed [21:28] asac, http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/chromium-translations-explained-part-2/ [21:28] fta: yeah... from upstream vs. contributions feels buggy as you describe it [21:28] og [21:28] oh [21:29] fta: do you know why the improved translations suddenly became "from upstream" ? [21:30] fta: do you reimport from your side with all the changes included? [21:31] asac, no. i feed lp just with the upstream stuff [21:31] it put a link to the lp announcement [21:32] asac, https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-translators/msg00256.html [21:34] i'm in touch with danilo, but he told me Deryck Hodge will take over to solve this [21:38] kk ... seems its maybe a one time problem and that folks are taking care of that. makes me happy [21:40] i wanted a low maintenance translation system, but i've spent way too much time on this already [21:43] asac, did you like my article? :) [21:43] asac, you asked me so many times to start a blog [21:46] fta: i retweeted it ;) [21:46] asac, rate it :) [21:46] fta: its really awesome content ... not much to add there ;) [22:08] the indicators are still broken [22:09] and i still can't use unity [22:28] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hhnjdplhmcnkiecampfdgfjilccfpfoe [22:56] hi asac [22:56] how are you? [22:56] ffox has gles support AFAICT, but we don't actually build it [22:58] chrisccoulson: could you please try that? [22:58] at least on arm ... [22:58] at best some builds for intel would be nice as well [22:59] with gallium etc. you can have accelerated gles for some x86 video chips [23:00] asac - yeah, i could try that. i think i'd need to do a build system hack for that though. it currently selects gles automatically only for maemo and android builds [23:00] (from what i can see from the makefile anyway) [23:02] chrisccoulson: yeah. that needs to be improved ;) [23:02] should select that for linux/arm/gnu in general [23:03] we could probably make it do that ;) [23:03] it wouldn't be difficult to fix [23:04] heh, it's going to be a fun night tonight, my daughter keeps waking up [23:10] chrisccoulson: good time to continue working then i guess [23:14] heh :) [23:16] this moonlight crasher is really bugging me now [23:16] fta - do you still see that in chromium too? [23:17] chrisccoulson, i don't use moonlight, but i still see people reporting bugs about it [23:18] it's when you have both icetea and libmoon [23:19] fta - yeah, i can still recreate it sometimes, but i still don't fully understand why it's crashing [23:20] fta - http://is.gd/AANWKL [23:21] there's quite a few now [23:21] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=49743 [23:23] i should probably work on integrating breakpad too [23:24] http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=472 [23:24] icedtea.classpath.org bug 472 in Plugin "Update of icedtea crashes epiphany" [Normal,New] [23:25] mix of malloc and tcmalloc? (last comment) [23:30] fta - interesting. the second link there seems to show a different crash