[05:58] <pitti_> good morning
[10:21] <pitti_> cjwatson, slangasek: do you still see any need for cocoplum's publish-queue cronjob? you can just download the unapproved stuff straight from LP, after all
[10:23] <cjwatson> if you want to delete it, please fix ubuntu-release-bot in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools first. :-)
[10:23] <cjwatson> it doesn't know how to work with queue listings from LP
[10:28] <pitti_> ah, that was my question really; thanks
[10:28] <pitti_> brb
[11:16] <pitti> yay, non-overflown CDs
[11:17] <cjwatson> overflowed :-)
[11:17] <cjwatson> our marvellously regular English language
[11:17] <pitti> gah, English is hard
[11:18] <cjwatson> (mind you, I think an exact analogue of that pair of irregular verbs exists in German with very similar confusion)
[11:18] <pitti> oh, that was "fly", not "flow"
[11:18] <cjwatson> yeah, fliegen vs. fliessen
[11:19] <cjwatson> so is libreoffice-filter-binfilter off the CDs now?
[11:19] <pitti> cjwatson: no, not yet; doko will do the change in bzr, but it won't land for a2
[11:20] <pitti> I killed an amd64 langpack, and due to the pending seed cleanup we got enough extra space
[11:20] <cjwatson> so we'll actually end up 8MB inside?
[11:20] <pitti> as padding for a3
[11:21] <cjwatson> I guess 8MB will last us about a week or so
[11:21] <pitti> *chuckle*
[11:22] <pitti> cjwatson: the 3.5 MB ghostscript growth was apparently justified (discussed with Till)
[11:22] <pitti> I hope there's something we can do about the 10 MB libreoffice-core growth, though
[11:23] <pitti> T minus one week until we get a LibO maintainer \o/
[14:50] <pitti> so, that ubuntu live smoke test went well here
[15:19]  * jdstrand pokes at NEW
[15:59]  * jdstrand is done
[16:24] <pitti> Riddell: any idea what we could take off the current Kubuntu alternates (amd64 5 MB oversized) and desktops (i386 1 MB, amd64 17 MB)? there are no more langpacks to chop off
[16:25] <Riddell> pitti: I only just uploaded the seeds to change openoffice to libreoffice, so the size could well change tomorrow
[16:25] <pitti> Riddell: that should only buy 1 MB or so; does it pull in more bits than it should? /me checks
[16:27] <pitti> no JRE or -base
[16:28] <pitti> Riddell: I don't think it's a serious blocker to be oversized for a2 (most folks install from USB anyway), but I guess discussing early can't hurt
[16:28] <Riddell> kdebase-workspace 4.6 upload on wednesday will drop a KDM theme which will be a few MB
[16:29] <pitti> python-qt4 (Δ 3.0 MB - 4.7.4-0ubuntu1: 2.9 MB   4.8.1-0ubuntu3: 6.0 MB)
[16:29] <Riddell> if we need space after that oxygen-icon-theme-complete can go on i386 (already not on amd64)
[16:29] <pitti> Riddell: ^ that might be worth checking? it's the only changed package whose size diff sticks out (and hasn't already been verified yet)
[16:30] <pitti> Riddell: btw, the -writer recommends to libreoffice-filter-binfilter will be dropped after a2, that'll buy 8.4 MB
[16:30] <pitti> s/buy/get back/
[16:31] <pitti> Riddell: oh, curent CD has libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 (6.9 MB) -- that looks like a bug?
[16:32] <Riddell> python-qt4 is build for both python 2.6 and 2.7, that's what adds the extra
[16:32] <pitti> ah, right
[16:33] <Riddell> are we aiming to drop one of those at some point?
[16:35] <pitti> Riddell: i don't think dropping 2.6 support for natty is planned right now
[16:35] <pitti> it'd certainly buy some 10 MB on the CD
[16:36] <Riddell> libwebkitgtk-1.0-0                  | webkit                          | libproxy0 (Recommends)
[16:36] <pitti> right, just found the same
[16:36] <pitti> that sounds wrong
[16:37] <pitti> Riddell: I'll drop it to suggests, ok?
[16:37] <Riddell> yes please
[16:38] <pitti> Riddell: ok, done
[16:39] <seb128> pitti, hum, but that's nothing new and libproxy should recommends it
[16:39] <Riddell> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base brings in gvfs which brings in a load of gnomey stuff onto the kubuntu CD
[16:40] <pitti> Riddell: so that will fix both i386 and amd64 alternate
[16:40] <Riddell> I could drop the gstreamer0.10-plugins-base recommends on gvfs to a suggest
[16:40] <seb128> Riddell, we are on sync with debian for it could you talk to slomo rather about doing that in debian?
[16:40] <pitti> Riddell: please forward that to Debian, as we are currently in sync
[16:40] <pitti> slomo is on IRC, perhaps you can coordinate with him?
[16:40] <pitti> ah
[16:41] <Riddell> asking
[16:41] <pitti> but otherwise this sounds fine