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hamitron12 C and above is fine00:00
hamitron:)00:00
hamitronfingers crossed it is just a fan00:00
hamitronbe freaky if we had same problem on same day00:01
markjoneshttp://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1065/avsz.jpg00:01
hamitronas I have never had it before00:01
Azelphurhaha00:01
hamitronhehe00:02
ali1234hoho00:02
Azelphurwtf00:02
Azelphurthe resolution has gone all messed00:02
Azelphurthe login box is like 1 inch wide00:02
hamitronhave you tried a livecd?00:03
hamitron:/00:03
hamitronwe all know you mess with things Azelphur ;)00:03
Azelphurhamitron, I'd have to use the livecd for a while00:03
hamitroneven if you don't say00:03
Azelphurto confirm00:03
Azelphur:p00:03
hamitronyeh00:03
hamitronbut worth it?00:03
hamitroncan watch porn or whatever you do00:04
Azelphurlol00:05
Azelphurwtf lol00:06
Azelphurit's launched X on :1.000:06
* Azelphur reboots and see's if it does it again00:06
hamitron:/00:06
hamitronwas so much easier with config files ;)00:06
hamitronpink punchbag on boffer :(00:07
hamitronnot been great stuff lately00:07
Azelphurthere, I'm up \o/00:08
Azelphurnow to play with it for a while and see if it dies00:08
hamitronthe 1 day i didn't look, it was an external hdd that was cool00:08
hamitron:)00:08
bigcalmNight kids00:10
Azelphurhamitron: haha, pink punchbag00:12
Azelphuryou know there's other boffer-like sites right?00:12
AzelphurI do a 4 site rotation every day :P00:12
hamitronno00:13
hamitronI don't want more00:13
hamitronjust means there is a greater chance of spending money00:13
Azelphurhaha00:13
Azelphurin other random news, you'll never be as cool as this guy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txVqr1eNwc00:13
hamitronI am cool? :D00:14
Azelphuryes, but not as cool as that guy.00:14
hamitronhe gonna bulch or something?00:14
hamitronbelch*00:14
Azelphur*shrug*00:15
hamitronlooks more like earthworm jim00:16
Azelphurhamitron: this is hilarious, I'm beating this huge guy at a game of strength xD00:20
Azelphurhttp://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-picture-thread?page=2#comment-592 I'm beating this guy00:20
hamitronhmmm?00:20
Azelphur(I'm on the first page if you havn't seen me)00:20
Azelphurwe both have these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerball-Neon-Pro/dp/B000OT8J9G and I had the lead on him for like a week with 9.4k points00:21
Azelphurthen after a week of trying he finally got ahead with 9.9k, so 2 hours later I got 10.1k00:21
AzelphurxxD00:21
Myrttiminecraft would be overly simple if it had a map.00:21
hamitronyou had to included your monitor setup in your pic...00:21
Myrttiwow.00:21
Azelphurhamitron: indeed :D00:22
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hamitronAzelphur: still working?00:35
Azelphurhamitron: yup00:36
hamitronwas gonna say, tempted to play a game tonight on my stable system ;)00:36
hamitrononly now it has little affect00:36
hamitronhopefully, anyway00:36
hamitronno downloading tonight00:37
hamitronused 59Gb or 60Gb download00:37
hamitronso full speed tomorrows \o/ :D00:37
Azelphur\o/00:38
hamitronbrb, coffee00:41
hamitronstill ok Azelphur?00:53
hamitron:D00:53
Azelphurhamitron: yup00:53
Azelphurmaybe same problem same day00:53
Azelphurxd00:53
hamitronmust admit, I have had problems a few days00:53
hamitronmonths even00:53
hamitronjust didn't seem to happen all the time00:54
Azelphurhaha00:54
hamitronI was often stable for over a week00:55
hamitronthen it would just freeze on me regularly for a few hours00:55
hamitronthen right itself00:55
Azelphur\o/00:55
hamitronserves me right for using old fans out of old fried PSU ;)00:56
Azelphurhehe00:56
hamitronI assume you don't do that00:57
* hamitron looks at the monitor setup00:57
Azelphur:p01:00
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cr215anyone have any experience with the pulseaudio-equalizer?05:15
cr215i installed it in the terminal but i cant find it anywhere\05:16
HazRPGmorning all06:36
HazRPGguess its too early for some folk06:42
=== monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller
HazRPGWhy is cumbria always a deadzone for everything :/07:00
matttHazRPG: huh07:30
HazRPGus cumbrians don't have an awful lot of supports of anything lol07:34
HazRPGCumbrian LUG seems to have died07:34
HazRPG(just as an example)07:34
=== MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller
HazRPGbrb07:46
screen-xmorning :)08:01
AlanBellmorning08:03
TheOpenSourcerermorning all08:03
czajkowskiAloha08:12
screen-xmorning czajkowski :)08:13
HazRPGbk08:13
screen-xHazRPG: bacon cheeseburger and chips?08:14
HazRPGscreen-x: not quite xD08:16
TheOpenSourcerer+1T for this suggestion: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-11-10-naming/08:24
HazRPGhaha omg I forgot I had that!08:27
* HazRPG adds pokemon theme to playlist for car mix08:27
HazRPGxD08:27
* jpds will now negate everything HazRPG says with 'I'm sorry, I don't play Pokemon'.08:32
HazRPGjpds: fair enough, I'm making a CD for the car of random funnies08:32
HazRPGalong with some classics08:33
HazRPGRock You Like a Hurricane (for e.g.)08:33
HazRPGurgh, not fair - my kenny rogers stuff seems to be corrupted and I have no idea where the CD went for it >_<08:36
HazRPGmust on my CD shelf somewhere...08:36
MooDoohello all08:53
bigcalmMorning peeps08:57
HazRPGmorning09:14
HazRPGargh, I knew there was a reason I didn't use media player to make playlists :/09:14
hoovermorning folks09:20
kazadedirecthex, morning, I was just wondering.. should I use badgerports.org for Maverick, or is there a better place to get updated mono packages?09:23
* Neoti moin all....... work as normal.... DOH!!!09:26
HazRPGmornin09:28
HazRPGsuppose I should get ready to bounce to uni09:28
dutchiebounce?09:30
dutchieis your preferred mode of transport pogo stick?09:30
NeotiHazRGP Bounce to uni .... what are you a ball09:30
HazRPGNeoti: I might be...09:30
HazRPG^^,09:30
HazRPGdutchie: totally should be xD09:31
NeotiLOL now that i want to see09:31
HazRPGwhat, me bouncing around like a ball, or on a pogo stick?09:31
bigcalmdutchie: space hopper :)09:31
bigcalmdutchie: though you might be too young to remember them09:32
NeotiLOL thats a website killer gram and there are some girl on space hoppers ... lol ....09:32
HazRPGbigcalm: heh, I remember those09:32
HazRPGnever owned one myself though09:33
dutchiebigcalm: not quite too young :)09:33
dogmatic69is it ok to use the same public key all over?09:34
dogmatic69ie for login to my server and github09:34
Neotii dont see why not ....09:36
Neotidogmatic69 : i have my key on about 8 servers....09:38
dogmatic69Neoti: cool, even if someone has access to the pub key it will still be ok?09:38
dutchiethat's the point of a "public" key09:39
Neoticorrect09:39
dogmatic69cool, just making sure09:39
dogmatic69thanks :)09:39
Neotiyou stick your key                         all over the place so you can connect to things securely ... just dont publish the privvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvatekey ...09:39
dogmatic69ye09:40
Neoti1Hey All im not on my work computer....09:44
* Neoti now on work computer as Neoti109:44
Neoti1Whos around...09:50
DJonesMorning all09:54
HazRPGright I'm away to uni, later10:02
HazRPGo/10:03
popeymorning all10:05
MooDoomorning popey10:05
dutchielo popey10:05
DJoneshi popey10:06
bigcalmMorning popey10:07
TheOpenSourcererlo popey10:09
* Neoti1 Welll my nagios install is going mad becouse the network just went down ... ARGH!!!!!! DOH!!!! what fun today is going to be 10:10
* diplo sets Neotil to mode 'Not Flapping'10:10
diplo:P10:10
hoovermornin popey10:10
hooverNeoti1: have you checked out icinga?10:10
Neoti1hoover : no i have not ..... whats that10:12
Neoti1hoover : just had a look adn i will try it out later on a test machine see if its any good ..... thanks for that10:16
diploStill based on nagios mind10:17
diploJust had the cgi's etc improved and a few other parts, still core nagios though10:18
DJonesDamm, goint to have to install windows on a acer laptop to update the bios10:20
diploCan't do it via boot disk DJones  ?10:22
DJonesdiplo: Not sure yet, something I'll have to look at10:22
DJonesdiplo: Doesn't look like it, the update is a windows setup.exe10:25
diploDell site used to do those as default, but if you delved deeper you could find a cli update10:28
DJonesThis one is an Acer Aspire, I've had a look, but doesn't seem to be much I can find that seems hopefull10:29
DJonesI wonder whether it'd run under wine :)10:30
Neoti1Does anyone use the Alwayson group for broadband or VPNs ?10:30
diploheh, I just looked on there site, one bios update for a model is to 'Fix keyboard issues with linux' but with a windows installer and dos installer.. nothing linux update able in there :D10:34
dogmatic69can anyone recomend a decent place to buy a new pc?10:37
DJonesdiplo: I'm considering trying a windows xp live usb to see if that would work10:38
DJonesdogmatic69: Have a look at nakedcomputer.org Might give you some suggestions of os free machines if thats what you're looking for10:39
dogmatic69ye, or a place that sells components but will ship built (for work, and they want that :/)10:40
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: thakns10:42
czajkowski*thanks even10:42
TheOpenSourcerernp czajkowski10:42
MooDooczajkowski: morning, you feeling better?10:43
czajkowskigood bit thanks10:48
MooDooczajkowski: no worrues :)10:49
gordomg found custard creams, monday has been rescued!10:59
screen-x:)10:59
czajkowskigord: you are amusing10:59
MooDoogord: sorry choc bourbons are better11:02
gordha, hahahahaha, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. no11:03
Neoti1custard creams all the way!!!!11:03
MooDoogord: meh!11:03
lazarus_christ my hamstrings are sore this morning11:03
davmor2morning all11:03
DJonesMooDoo: ,1 for choc bourbons11:03
DJones+1 even11:03
davmor2MooDoo: I got a bunch of aq's in the biscuit barrel11:04
MooDoomy fave and choc moo cow biscuits11:04
lazarus_morning11:05
* TheOpenSourcerer curses all this talk of biscuits and legs it to make a coffee and grab some Digestives.11:06
lazarus_has no comp comp11:06
* Neoti1 see TheopenSourcerer go for a coffee and gets one him self... 11:07
diploAnyone know of a good tool to remove lots and lots of duplicate CSS lines ?11:08
popeydiplo: vi11:08
diployeah but that means defining each line that's wrong11:09
diploCan do that with netbeans11:09
Neoti1(CTRL+A DEL) LOL... he he11:09
diploOr can I get it to see if there is an exact duplicate to delete any lines following ?11:09
diploI've debated that Neoti1 if it wasn't so big i would start again11:10
Neoti1sorry diplo.... had to say it ...11:10
* TheOpenSourcerer returns armed with coffee, a digestive AND a shortbread finger too :-D11:12
diploHmm having to install vim :/11:12
diploWant to go back to ubuntu on my lappy but I can't resolve the fans spinning all the time11:12
czajkowskidiplo: are you running Ubuntu one ?11:13
diploOn windows yeah, and actually on ubuntu box as well yeah11:15
diploI think the issue is that linux doesn't detect the fan properly11:16
diploKeep meaning to maybe try askubuntu, asked here a few times with out a reply yet.11:16
czajkowskidiplo: I just found from times my fans used to spin crazy when I was synin my U111:19
diplookay, will give it a try under u1, was defo an issue with Windows as U1 was running at 25%+ when running with sync turned on11:22
diploDidn't even think about it on ubuntu11:22
bigcalmpopey: checked the map recently? (near spawn area)11:25
popeyooer11:26
Myrttican the multiplayer maps be played in Peaceful if others aren't?11:26
popeyyes11:26
popeyyou can switch off monsters in smp11:26
popeybigcalm: you?11:26
Myrttiso I can play the map with you guys in Peaceful even if you're playing it with monsters?11:26
popeyoh, sorry, misunderstood11:27
popeyno11:27
bigcalmNo11:27
matti;]11:27
Myrttiboo.11:27
popeythe server dictates whether there are monsters11:27
bigcalmpopey: making a hot tap11:27
Laneyhow do you get the mob drops without mobs?11:27
MyrttiI'll just continue on my single player baby steps map then11:27
Myrttibtw, would a #ubuntu-uk-minecraft be a good idea ;]11:27
Myrttior do you have it already :-D11:27
popeyheh11:27
bigcalmNa. Minecraft comes under the heading of kittens11:28
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bigcalm:D11:28
Myrttipopey: thanks for the distraction tho, there's been a lot going on lately and minecraft is a good distraction from overly active brain11:28
bigcalmWe wouldn't want to be off topic11:28
popey:) its fun11:28
bigcalmMuch fun11:29
popeyMyrtti: you're welcome to jump on the server any time, it's pretty much always up11:29
popeybigcalm: i might generate day _and_ night graphs11:29
bigcalmLast night popey and I made a mob grinder from a dungeon mob spawner. Sadly we're only collecting feathers11:29
gordpopey, want my script? also keeps a history11:29
* popey modifies the script11:29
bigcalmpopey: I think that would be useful11:29
popeygord: i has one :)11:29
popeyhttp://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/2011/11:30
popey:)11:30
gordpopey, is it the same one i have? because i copy pasted from somewhere11:30
popeyno, i wrote mine11:30
bigcalmThose maps are going to take up a lot of space11:30
bigcalmGoing to make an animation from them?11:30
gord.... people less lazy than me *shakes fist*11:31
* czajkowski hugs Myrtti 11:33
MyrttiI'm trying to work though, which I call a personal feat11:34
MyrttiI can do video editing and instructing pidgin usage, but I've got no hope of thinking about anything complex about marketing or learning Qt11:34
gordlearning Qt isn't easy at the best of times11:36
MyrttiQt Quick is fairly simple though11:37
screen-xI have a box which is 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, but loadavg is 2, why should that be?11:41
jpdsscreen-x: Is it HP?11:41
screen-xjpds: no, it's a VM.11:41
popeyyay http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_day.png vs http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_night.png11:42
screen-xloadavg is normally 0.3ish11:42
popeybigcalm: yeah, maybe11:42
screen-xbut has been high since a reboot this morning, but I haven't been able to work out why.11:42
MartijnVdSpopey: you need more upstream bandwidth :)11:42
popeyMartijnVdS: :)11:43
popeyalan@hactar:~/bin$ du -hs /var/www/maps/11:43
popey1.6G    /var/www/maps/11:43
popeyls11:43
popeybah11:43
lazarus_MartijnVdS: popey howdy11:44
screen-xjpds: why the HP comment?11:44
Myrttiyou do know what load means though? it probably is waiting for the hard drive11:45
screen-xMyrtti: but in that case you'd expect a large value for io wait.11:46
jpdsscreen-x: bug #57491011:46
lubotu3Launchpad bug 574910 in Pantheon "High load averages on Lucid while idling" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57491011:46
lazarus_ does gwibber have issues with twitter ?11:54
czajkowskilazarus_: from time to time depending on what verion you are running11:55
czajkowskiit may get a bit slow in updating11:55
czajkowskilazarus_: killing it and restarting tends to fix it tbh11:55
lazarus_ok11:56
DJoneslazarus_: Which version of ubuntu are you using, I've found 10.10 is quite stable, very rarely a problem, but earlier versions were unstable11:56
lazarus_DJones: 10.1011:57
popeybigcalm: might pop on the server later and go for a very very long wander :)11:58
* DaveMorris is confused with su. Written a small backup script which I want to run as my user, by dumping it in cron.daily. I switch to root (sudo su) to test it, and run it but it asks for my password before doing the su command. The su command is su dave -c "/etc/cron.daily/daily-backup.sh" however if I do su dave -c "whoami" it works fine11:59
bigcalmpopey: take food!11:59
bigcalmAnd a boat11:59
DaveMorrisgrrr12:01
DaveMorrisstupid mistake, which you always find after posting :)12:01
* gord designs bot to constantly walk forward on popey's minecraft server, eating up all his hard-drive space12:01
LaneyDaveMorris: sudo -u username yourcommandhere12:02
DaveMorrisLaney: yeah I was doing that correctly12:02
DaveMorristhe script I was then calling, didn't contain what I thought it did12:03
DaveMorrisit was trying to do a su as well12:03
tugrikew12:03
bigcalmpopey: got to the other chest. Loaf of bred, 2 red stone, 3 iron, bucket, saddle and 3 string12:03
tugrikdon't su in scripts :)12:04
tugrikbest to run the script as that user in /etc/cron/crontab IMHO12:04
tugriksorry, make that "/etc/crontab" :)12:05
popeyheheh bigcalm :)12:06
popeybigcalm: is it still spawning?12:06
DJonesAre there any benefits to installing 64-bit Ubuntu on a machine with max ram of 2Gb?12:09
bigcalmpopey: yep, I've cleane it up as well12:10
TheOpenSourcererAnyone know of an on-line place I can get someone to connect to with a Windows Computer so that I can then connect too and get remote control of their PC?12:10
bigcalmMuch more productive now12:10
DJonesIts not going to be a regular use machine, more for playing & testing12:10
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: yuuguu12:12
ubuntuuk-planet[Paul Tansom] What have I done? - http://www.linuxlore.co.uk/2011/01/23/what-have-i-done/12:12
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: crossloop12:12
MartijnVdSpopey: that link of yours is a hit here at work :)12:13
Nafallohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668 ← slightly off-topic, but relevant to your interest.12:13
popeyhehe12:13
TheOpenSourcererpopey: Thanks. Will look at both of them.12:13
popeyyuuguu is java based, and cross platform, crossloop is windows only, but might work in wine at your end12:14
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: dimdim also12:15
DJonesCould be interesting, Sky set to buy a wireless hotspot provider & offer it to broadband customers as a competition to BT's service12:22
Neoti1LOL djones Sky use BT for there broadband anyway.... there just a reseller of the BT wholesale stuff... what would be good is if Virgin media did something with wifi .. now that would really challenge BT .....12:24
DJonesNeoti1: Not always, they're installing their own equipment in some exchanges so apart from using the wires from house to exchange they're not reselling12:25
gordwhen i was with sky, they wern't based on bt12:26
Neoti1i work with another high level telecom company and im sure when i looked last they used BT Wholesale for broadband and then just packaged it up as there own with there own router etc.... will have to look again ...12:27
DJonesgord: Same here, sky put their equipment in our exchange and they charge a lot less than the reseller price, something like £10/mth for unlimited instead £18/mth12:27
DJonesNeoti1: It depends which exchange, if they've not put their own equipment into an exchange, then they do resell the bt package, but otherwise its just a sky package12:28
* Neoti1 stands corrected by DJones :)12:29
DJones:)12:29
Neoti1Djones : what would also be good is if Sky would offer Satalite internet via there sky box...12:29
DJonesI've been on sky for about 3-4 years since they enable our exchange12:29
Neoti1that would also be kinda cool12:29
gordi doubt they have the bandwidth for a large scale satellite internet system12:30
gordespecially one that has to share with the tv service12:31
DJonesI'd like them to offer internet access via the sky receiver12:31
DJonesiplayer etc12:31
Neoti1well would be kinda good .... VM have TV and Internet on one line... sky could offer internet and TV over the air waves etc.12:31
gordyeah but like i said, bandwidth is limited12:32
Neoti1Yeah... suppose your rite there12:32
gordsatellite tech is really only good for broadcasting, when you want the same signal to go out to looots of places, its not really suited for the internet12:32
DJonesI'd be tempted to move to VM, but they won't cable our road, even though houses within 100 yards do get cable12:32
gordVM won't cable our *town*, i hate them :(12:33
Neoti1is it a private road?12:34
Neoti1i love VM ... i have 50MB... soon to be 100MB when i get the trial....12:34
DJonesNope, right at the entrance to a housing estate, some of which seems to have cable12:34
* DJones considers sueing VM for distcrimination because of where I live :)12:35
* Neoti1 Hates DJones consideration to sue!!!! 12:35
Neoti1LOL12:36
Neoti1Djones, im sure they will cable the road soon ....12:36
davmor2DJones: did you think that the council wouldn't give permission to dig it up, or that the estate didn't exist when the cable was laid?12:37
Neoti1or if you all get together and start a group thing to get VM to cable the street that will work12:37
DJonesNeoti1: I doubt it, I've asked them a few times over the last 5 years, its always "They have no plans in that area"12:37
* Neoti1 VM get your finger out and cable more streets!!!!!!12:38
DJonesdavmor2: Its possible, but you'd think the VM sales people that come round knocking at the door about once a year would know that the area wasn't cabled before trying to sell me a tv & broadband package12:38
davmor2DJones: Not if the council say no.  VM's hands are tied in those instances as they have no grounds to countermand the councils say so,  if you find that is the case you can approach your council as a tax payer but vm can't it's daft12:40
czajkowskihttp://twitpic.com/3sza02  NYOMMY!!!12:41
bigcalmHad porridge. That was yum12:42
DJonesdavmor2: I think its probably a case that they extended the cabling into the estate as it was being finished, but because some of the houses right at the entrance to it were show houses, they didn't quite get there because the developer didn't want the show houses looking a mess/difficult to get to12:43
davmor2DJones: sounds about right12:43
davmor2DJones: over here it's the home builders responsibility to contact cable/electric/bt etc to inform them that the properties are ready for connection, if the same rule applies down there then maybe the builders didn't want cable streaks in their paths12:46
DJonesThat'd make sense12:48
Neoti1i personally dont move to a place/area that does not have cable... i Hate BT's BB services.....12:50
AzelphurNeoti1: there isn't all that much of the UK covered by cable :(12:51
Azelphuralso, VFast is interesting12:52
* Azelphur isn't in a coverage area for that either12:52
* Neoti1 Looks at Vfast with interest 12:52
Azelphurthey do 10mbit (soon 100mbit) WiMax12:53
Azelphurbut you have to be line of site to their antenna12:53
Neoti1or have a friend between the antenna that can re-broadcast the signal for you ... LOL....12:55
Azelphurhaha12:55
Gringo#help13:21
Azelphur!ask | Gringo13:21
lubotu3Gringo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:21
GringoNeed some help guys im i on the right channel?13:21
Azelphurif it's ubuntu help you need, yup :)13:21
GringoJust installed ubuntu but i have no sound :/13:21
DJonesGringo: Ask away, if we can't help, you could also try the #ubuntu channel which is a lot busier13:22
GringoUnder sound preferences/hardware it says internal audio 1output/1 input analolog stero duplex13:23
Gringoanyone?13:24
DJonesGringo: Do you know which soundcard is installed?13:24
Gringoits a built in one on my gigabyte mobo13:24
DJones!paste | Gringo Can you run "lspci" in a terminal and copy the output into the pastebin link that the bot gives & then copy the link to website it gives you here so we can see what hardware you've got13:25
lubotu3Gringo Can you run "lspci" in a terminal and copy the output into the pastebin link that the bot gives & then copy the link to website it gives you here so we can see what hardware you've got: Pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)13:25
Gringohttp://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/10083913:29
DJonesGringo: This might help, it gives details of troubleshooting methods & the person seems to have got sound working by the end of it http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166171613:33
DJonesAlthough just reading it, they seem to have sound working, their problem was with the microphones13:34
Gringoill give it a shot thanx buddy, 1 more more question i cant open rar files says archieve types not supported13:34
DJones!rar13:34
lubotu3rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free13:34
DJonesYou need to install the winrar app or unrar-free from synaptic13:35
DJonesGringo: The package you need to install will be "unrar" that should solve that problem13:36
Neoti1or 7z thin thats what it is13:36
Gringowhats the command for rar i tried the sudo app get but that didnt work13:36
MartijnVdSGringo: please read what people were telling you :)13:37
DJonesFrom a terminal, try "sudo apt-get install unrar" which will ask you for your password13:37
Gringothanx13:38
* Neoti1 LOL @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-1226271413:41
MartijnVdSNeoti1: a bit of a neighing laugh? :)13:54
Neoti1lol14:02
Neoti1have u seeen this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251310 i might get one .... bloody awesome... stick a dual graphicss card in there for the dual screens i have and bang ...14:02
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popeyyes, I got their spam today too :)14:04
Neoti1:) ....14:04
popeyI like that the first comment is from someone running Ubuntu14:04
Neoti1some on the reviews has put about ubuntu 64bit etc... so looks good tome.. though i would like to know the mobo specs...14:04
Neoti1snap!14:05
Azelphurhas anyone noticed nautilus seems to be terrible at copying things to USB drives14:05
Neoti1humm add a sata raid mirror and an extra HDD and a dual screen graphincs card and NICE!14:06
Azelphurjust now for example I copied a 700MB file, it shot straight to 670MB complete, then stopped for ages14:06
Azelphur\o/14:06
MartijnVdS\o/ disk cache :)14:07
gordAzelphur, yeah its not nautilus, its linux ;) its not terrible just hard to actually report the right statistics14:10
Azelphurlol14:11
Neoti1gord its turned in to windows.... with the whole thing or reporting stats wrong14:11
czajkowskihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQoF24ozJw pretty damn good14:14
DJonesThat install is fast :)14:16
Neoti1LOL thats good ... was it made with Kdenlive though or on a ubuntu computer cos thaqt would be ace14:16
bigcalmczajkowski: I spy Sil14:16
DJonesNeoti1: End credits say produced and created with Kdenlive on 10.1014:17
Neoti1ah did not see that .. lol AWESOME!!!!!!!14:18
Neoti1ok im after a dual headed Graphics card for using in ubuntu which one ?14:20
davmor2czajkowski: yeap it is that's why I retweeted it I thought it was worthy14:22
Neoti1whats more supported Nvidia ?14:22
Neoti1thinking about a NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS ?14:23
czajkowski*sigh* yes please send me a doc to review.. then don't attach it :(14:25
gordNeoti1, the 8000 series is currently pretty well supported via the open source drivers i hear14:27
Neoti1gord was thinking http://www.ebuyer.com/product/17413114:29
gordi can't comment on the open soruce drivers but i use two monitors with my current graphics card just fine, nvidia gtx 260, used to run two monitors off a geforce 6600 just fine also14:30
Azelphurmulti monitor discussion? why has nobody highlighted me yet :P14:36
dogmatic69im running a geforce 9800 1gig with 2x monitors on the ubuntu supplied drivers14:36
AzelphurI'm running a GTX 570 and 8800GT with 4x1920x120014:37
dogmatic69^ nice14:37
Neoti1Double nice ^14:37
dogmatic694x nice :D14:37
Neoti1lol14:37
AzelphurxD14:38
Azelphurhttp://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-rig-thread14:38
dogmatic69Azelphur: you on the antique desk?14:39
Azelphuryup :p14:39
AzelphurI need a new desk but havn't seen anything I like14:39
Azelphurthey don't build em like they used to.14:39
TwinkletoesThe resolvconf package doesn't populate /etc/resolv.conf upon reboot, but only when manually restarting networking.  man resolv.conf gives a similar example to my setup (iface eth0 inet static) so I'm assuming I'm doing things right.  Why doesn't resolvconf work at reboot?14:42
brobostigonafternoonings all.14:49
Neoti1howdy14:50
brobostigonafternoonings Neoti114:50
* brobostigon has decided to stick with gingerbread, but give up on native gmail and use k9 insted.14:51
Neoti1what phone u got14:51
Neoti1i got galaxy s i900014:51
Neoti1only Froyo tho14:51
brobostigonNeoti1: htc dream14:51
Neoti1kool14:52
AzelphurI got HTC Desire Z \o/14:52
Neoti1what that heavy bulky phone ... he he14:53
DJonesAzelphur: How do you cope? ...... A phone only has one screen :)14:53
Neoti1lol....14:54
* brobostigon installs setcpu14:54
Azelphurhaha :D14:54
AzelphurDJones: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/January%202011/IMG_20110117_033502.jpg is how I cope14:55
brobostigonurghh, that coffee ijust made is awful.14:55
Azelphurthat gets me up to 3, but it isn't exactly 4.14:55
DJonesHeh14:55
Neoti1what specs the netbook ?14:56
cpsafternoon peeps :)14:56
brobostigoncps: afternoonings ttm :)14:56
AzelphurNeoti Atom N450 1.6ghz, I think 1GB RAM14:57
cpsbrobostigon: hey, how are you?14:57
Neoti1what make ...14:57
Azelphurit's an Asus EEE 1001P14:57
Neoti1oh ...14:57
brobostigoncps: not bad, my eczema is calming down, and the infection is going. how about you?14:57
cpsbrobostigon: I'm okay :) good to hear about the eczema14:58
brobostigoncps: :)14:58
* cps bought a new keyboard today14:59
brobostigoncps: what kind?15:00
cpsbrobostigon: just a cheap one from argos15:01
screen-xcps: as bigcalm says, a new keyboard is as good as a holiday15:01
cpsit's a very good one, however15:01
cpsexcellent build quality, good tactile feedback15:01
davmor2Azelphur: http://ubuntuone.com/p/Zp1/ no idea what you mean and as soon as I find the power lead for the other monitor they'll be another 2 pc up and running :)15:02
cpsscreen-x: I can't see how a keyboard would compare to a holiday :s lol15:02
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brobostigoncps: ah, ok.15:02
screen-xcps: refreshing for the hands/wrists/arms to be in a slightly different position15:02
Azelphurdavmor2: cool :D15:02
cpsscreen-x: ah15:02
cpsthe old keyboard I used was advertised as an “ergonomic” keyboard for some reason15:03
cpslooked rather normal but it was the cheapest USB keyboard available15:03
* cps opens the vent above his window15:05
cpshmm15:08
cpshaggis, neeps and tatties tomorrow15:08
* Neoti1 installs "My Traceroute" on my hosted CentOS 5.5 box to prove to a network provider the packet lose is on there end!!!!15:08
cpsNeoti: haha, how long has that situation being going omn for?15:09
cpsNeoti1 *15:09
Neoti1about 6 days.... i have given so much info to the provider and this is the last thing im sending to them... i send SIP RTP down the line and packets keep getting lost so MTR if left running for an hour will tell me deffinetly which router is losing the packets and how much packet lose there is .... which this i can go to the provider and give them hell ... lol15:11
brobostigonok, does anyone here have android 2.3, and know how to reduce the mount of workspaces, ie, delete workspaces with the native android launcher. please.15:11
* cps digs out his g215:14
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: afaik you can't15:16
brobostigonMartijnVdS: not good. :(15:16
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MartijnVdSbrobostigon: I've left the outer two empty15:16
brobostigonadw-launcher here we come.15:16
DJonesbrobostigon: I think you have to change to a different launcher15:17
popeybrobostigon: why do you want less workspaces?15:17
brobostigonDJones: thats what i will have to do.15:17
brobostigonpopey: they are there doing nothing,15:17
popeyand that is a problem why?15:19
brobostigonpopey: because i dont want them there, is i am not going to use them, and it uses resources better used elsewhere.15:20
gordeerrr15:20
gordnooooo15:20
gordit will use up no more resources than 1 workspace if you don't use them15:20
* brobostigon thinks he needs to go bang his head on a hard surface.15:20
brobostigoncheers gord15:21
popeyindeed15:21
popeyi guess it's like having multiple desktops in x15:21
brobostigonpopey: indeed.15:21
popeyBut then I know someone who obsessively closes windows because they get confused by having more than one thing open15:22
kaushalhi15:22
popeywhich is insanely frustrating15:22
kaushalPlease guide further about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557694/15:22
* popey expects an sql query from kaushal 15:22
kaushalpopey: hi15:22
popeyah, there it is15:22
kaushalpopey: you are super fast15:22
brobostigoni have four workspaces open here and about half dozen apps.15:22
popeyyou're asking an oracle question on an ubuntu mailing list kaushal ?15:22
popeyI hope you have your flame retardant underpants on?15:22
popeyyou're going to get quite a kicking15:23
popey(I suspect)15:23
popeymind you the person I am talking about (multiple windows open not) also refuses to have two items of food in her mouth at once15:24
popeycan't cope with two tastes15:24
popeyvery weird15:24
screen-xpopey: I always mix my cereals :)15:27
* DJones wonders if a bacon buttie counts as two seperate tastes, or would that only be with the addition of sausage or hp sauce15:27
gord... why are you people putting two items of food in your mouth at once? o_O stop cramming your face! eat slower!15:28
DJonesgord: I'm catching up, after having teeth out last week, I've got a weeks worth of crispy food to catch up on15:29
popeygord: roast dinner, a piece of meat and some vegetables on a fork isn't unheard of15:31
popeyfor her, she would eat exactly one thing at a time15:31
popeymind you, my OCD habits are just as bad :D15:31
popeyI find it hard to put washing on the washing line if the pegs don't match (both wood or both plastic, or both one colour)15:32
bigcalmpopey: when are the maps regenerated?15:32
popeyevery 10 mins15:32
bigcalmOn the 10 min mark?15:32
popeyyes15:32
popeyhttp://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/15:32
popeysee current_day and current_night15:32
bigcalmTa15:32
popeygenerated 2 mins ago15:33
popeyhehe, i see gord visited :)15:33
* dutchie visits15:34
* dutchie needs a break from maths :(15:34
jpdsdutchie: Teach your computer how to count.15:35
screen-xpopey: how big are your vnstat dbs?15:37
popeyque?15:37
popey-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2272 2011-01-24 15:35 eth015:38
popeysmall15:38
jpdsscreen-x: It's RRD.15:38
screen-xMine are all exactly that size, reguardless of length of time recording.15:39
screen-xjpds: ahh, that would make sense15:39
popeyanyway kaushal put that in a file and save it, then at the sql> prompt type @filename.sql15:40
popeyit will run it15:40
popeykaushal: or just paste it into the sql> prompt15:40
popeywithout all those quotes around it15:40
* dutchie loads up the popeymap to locate where his house went15:44
popey:)15:44
brobostigonand why one earth does the power control in gingerbread not have a control to turn data on and off.15:44
gordbrobostigon, you mean the widget? it never had that, there isn't enough space15:44
brobostigongord: the cm version of 2.2.1 did.15:45
gordi have wifi, blutooth, sound, sync and brightness15:45
brobostigongord: in 2.3 here same, but in the cyanogenmod version of 2.2.1 it had one for data aswell.15:46
gorddata would be kinda silly, you only really need that if you are roaming (auto turns off then anyway) or you are gonna go over your limit, in which case thats really a one time thing, so you can just enable it in the settings. don't need quick access15:46
brobostigongord: i find sometimes it uses alot of power consimpation, so i tented to only turn it on when needed.15:47
brobostigonconsumption* tended*15:48
* czajkowski has a fruit mix. day got a lot better15:50
czajkowskiyummy melon and pineapple wiht some mango15:50
gord... note to self, steal czajkowski's food. has the tasty things15:53
czajkowskigord: tesco 2 tubs for 2 quid15:55
czajkowskione frutity one exotic15:55
czajkowskiboth damn tasty15:55
czajkowskigord: told you, do your shopping online :)15:55
dutchiei think i will go to tesco in a minute15:55
* AlanBell has borbon creams16:00
czajkowskiohhh tasty16:03
* Neoti1 victory is mine .... that provider has admitted its there problem regarding my packet lose ... YEY!!!!16:03
kaushalpopey: hi again16:04
kaushalsorry was away16:04
kaushalI did run that it did not exit16:05
popeykaushal: explain?16:07
popeywhat makes you think it should exit?16:07
kaushalpopey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557703/16:11
kaushalpopey: shall i pastebin the query ?16:12
kaushalhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557694/16:13
ubuntuuk-planet[Alan Bell] Edubuntu at BETT 2011 - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/01/24/edubuntu-at-bett-2011/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=edubuntu-at-bett-201116:13
popeykazade: you didnt read what I typed16:17
popey16:07:37 < popey> what makes you think it should exit?16:17
popeywhat if you just paste it into sqlplus?16:18
* dutchie burned tongue with coffee :(16:18
kazadepopey, ??16:19
popeyhttp://unreasonablefaith.com/2011/01/24/an-ant-drinking-from-a-raindrop/ wow16:19
kazadeoh tab completion fail popey16:19
popeysorry16:19
czajkowskidutchie: not good16:22
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popey22671 alan      20   0 2481m 1.4g 5064 S   17 48.2 100:10.98 java16:26
popey:)16:26
bigcalmpopey: I've been walking a little16:28
popeyso you have16:29
Myrttiboo.16:30
Myrttistupid minecraft16:30
MyrttiI lost my house.16:30
bigcalmAt a big cave. Don't know if I should keep walking or not16:30
MyrttiI can't find it.16:30
bigcalmMyrtti: build another one :)16:30
Myrttinot that I care too much, but it has all my junk16:30
dogmatic69Myrtti: build a compas, will take you back to spawn16:30
Myrttiand this is the THIRD house I've build16:30
dogmatic694 gold + 1 red stone dust16:30
Myrttidogmatic69: I didn't build my house there, so I'm at lost even with the compass16:31
Myrttistupid goddammit...16:31
dogmatic69:D16:31
Myrtti*cough*16:31
Myrtti*sigh*16:31
dogmatic69i always build a huge tower so it can be seen from pretty far16:31
popeyMyrtti: generate a map16:31
popeythen you will be able to find it again16:31
Myrttipopey: what would you recommend for an app for that?16:32
popeyi use mcmap16:32
Myrttithankies16:32
popeyits in git16:32
popeysomewhere :)16:32
popeygit clone https://github.com/Zahl/mcmap.git16:32
popeyin my bash history as it happens16:32
popeyjust run mcmap with one parameter which is the "world1" folder where your world data is, which is probably directly under where your minecraft.jar is16:33
popeybigcalm: i see a pile of sand in amongst some trees at teh very top right of the map :)16:34
popeyyours?16:34
bigcalmNo, I've walked to the bottom left16:35
popeyah16:35
Myrttihow do you get down from the top of the pillar without killing yourself in the fall?16:35
popeydig16:35
bigcalmLots of snow and then some lights16:35
popeyi build two towers adjacent16:35
Myrttiah, ok16:35
popeylook odown, jump and place, jump and place16:35
popey*down16:35
popeystep onto second one and dig it back down leaving the other one up16:36
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czajkowskisounds like some new craze of a dance move popey16:46
popey:)16:46
popeyI do not dance*16:46
popey 16:46
popey*(this is a tiny lie)16:46
popeybigcalm: generating a google maps zoomable map :)16:48
popeytakes 40 mins !16:49
Myrttiha, there they are, both my houses16:49
czajkowskiheh16:50
popey:)16:51
Myrttinow I'm made a pillar at where I'm lost...16:52
popeyregenerate map :)16:53
Myrttioh good grief16:53
popeysee where you are16:53
MyrttiI'm on the other side of the damned map16:53
popeyhehe16:53
* Neoti1 yey home time...16:53
popeynice to get out and about16:53
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danfishafternoon all17:08
danfish\o/ in 20mins my linode will have had an uptime of 100 days :)17:08
pr0ph3thi all17:10
* Myrtti facepalms http://flickr.com/gp/myrtti/2hA8Gc17:11
gordtesco don't allow non alphanumeric characters for passwords and you can't have more than ten characters.. why would anyone ever enforce a limit of 10 characters on a password!!17:11
Myrttimy bank has even worse17:12
gord"sound be between six and ten characters in length, upper-case and lower-case letters are treated the same". so basically, you can brute force this on a zx zpectrum17:12
Myrttithen again, the password is only for identification, the actual login comes with a onetime passkey17:12
gords/sound/should17:12
DJonesThere's not a lot of consistency with banks & their online logon's17:17
DJonesOne bank uses an id number/password/secret information & the secret info has to be entered via drop down boxes rather than typing it in17:18
popey heheh Myrtti17:19
popeybigcalm: discovered the server.properties file :) and spawn-monsters=true17:21
pr0ph3tI have a problem with my 3g integrated modem, basically I cannot connect, in practice it seems there is no signal, i.e. the radio is off, but in windows works fine, in exactly the same spot. I have a Asus UL30A-QX328V Laptop, running Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 64 bit with kernel 2.6.37-12-generic, any help would be greatly appreciated!17:30
popeypr0ph3t: how are you trying to connect?17:31
pr0ph3tpopey, different ways, I tried the wizard as well17:31
popeyyou have a sim in it, from which network?17:32
pr0ph3tO2-UK17:32
popeyand when you go through network manager, does it ask you for the carrier?17:32
pr0ph3tit's a laptop on contract from O217:32
pr0ph3tyes17:32
pr0ph3tpopey, the apn, the password and the username17:33
popeyyou have seen http://dev.iksaif.net/boards/2/topics/54 ?17:33
pr0ph3tpopey, indeed17:34
pr0ph3tyes I have17:34
popeyhave you tried the patch?17:34
sprite( o Y o )17:34
popeyhello sprite17:34
pr0ph3tI tried to get in touch with Dan but he hasn't replied yet17:34
spritehello :]17:34
pr0ph3tpopey, the patch was merged into mainline a while ago17:35
pr0ph3tit works with control files with either "0" or "1" in them17:35
popeyah17:35
pr0ph3tand the wwan file has 1 in it17:35
pr0ph3tbut the radio seems to be off still17:35
pr0ph3tI tried to ask the guy on that thread and also on ubuntu forums, he has the same model as me, but he hasn't replied, a month since I first tried to contact him17:37
popeyfile a bug?17:37
popeyagainst network manager17:37
pr0ph3tbut he says he managed to get it to work17:37
pr0ph3tI did17:37
pr0ph3tbut if he managed to get it to work17:38
popeywhats the bug number?17:39
pr0ph3thttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/70062717:40
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 700627 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager switches 3G modem radio off at boot" [Undecided,New]17:40
pr0ph3tpopey, that's the bug, it is regarding an anomaly that I found when looking at syslog17:41
popeypr0ph3t: same on a live cd?17:41
pr0ph3tI have never tried it on live I don't think, why would it be different?17:42
pr0ph3tI will give it a go though, live usb is the same right?17:43
pr0ph3tpopey, it's my first bug report so there might be something wrong or inappropriate, I apologise in advance17:44
popeyits the best way to say its not anything to do with any fiddling you've done :)17:44
popeyno, nothing wrong at all17:44
popeyits great, very descriptive17:44
popeyjust trying to narrow it down17:44
kaushalpopey: hi again17:45
pr0ph3tI'll load 10.10 then on live usb ok?17:45
kaushalsorry got disconnected17:45
popeypr0ph3t: probably a good idea17:50
popeypr0ph3t: could try 11.04 too, if broken in both, add that to the bug report17:50
pr0ph3t!lapsus17:50
popeybigcalm / gord / Myrtti http://popeydc.dyndns.org/gmaps/17:50
pr0ph3tit's a utility for asus laptops17:50
dutchiepopey: wow, cool17:51
kaushalpopey: please guide me about overcoming this issue --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557755/17:52
* cps noms on a beefburger17:53
Myrttiwicked17:53
popeykaushal: that looks poorly formatted sql query17:54
kaushalok17:54
popeybit of a mess of carriage returns17:54
kaushalpopey: shall i pastebin the impdp log17:55
popeyno17:57
gordpopey, ahem, already found diamonds :P17:57
pr0ph3tI would like to run a KDE applet from GNOME, I also need to compile it, is that possible?17:58
pr0ph3twhen I do ./configure it asks me whether I have kde installed correctly17:58
popeyheh17:58
pr0ph3tbecause of kde-config17:58
popeyyay gord17:59
popeygord: is that your little house in the water17:59
pr0ph3tit's a KDE panel applet17:59
gordpopey, yeah, not really a house, just something nice enough to keep the creepers away, just covers a deeep hole that goes to that diamond level18:00
popey:D18:01
gordi guess i also found gold and that new blue stuff too...18:07
gordi think i already found everything o_O18:07
dutchielapis lazuli18:07
TwinkletoesThe resolvconf package doesn't populate /etc/resolv.conf upon reboot, but only when manually restarting networking.  man resolv.conf gives a similar example to my setup (iface eth0 inet static) so I'm assuming I'm doing things right.  Why doesn't resolvconf work at reboot?18:14
GringoHi all need some help cant get no sound at all, someone recommended me this site but no luck http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166171618:50
Gringoguys18:54
luklewhi everybody18:57
luklewi'm searching channel where i can learn english :D18:57
luklewany suggestions?18:58
MartijnVdS##english?18:58
luklewhmm18:58
MartijnVdS(I don't know if it existd)18:58
MartijnVdS(exists)18:58
luklewexists18:58
luklewthanks Martin :)18:58
luklewbut i prefer some IT channel18:59
luklewok, i'm going to learn :D19:01
MartijnVdSyou seem to understand English already ;)19:02
MartijnVdSat least a little19:02
Gringo#ubuntu19:03
bigcalmpopey: cool map19:05
AlanBellanyone got their haggis ready for tomorrow?19:30
bigcalmo/19:30
TheOpenSourcererEuuuggghhhh!19:31
bigcalmSuper supper19:31
TheOpenSourcererI'm OK with the Whiskey but not the stuffed sheep's stomach bit.19:31
* bigcalm disappears for a bit19:31
mgdmMine's still in Tesco :P19:31
mgdmbut it shall be acquired19:32
dutchiethe college bar quiz tomorrow night has a bottle of whisky as a prize19:33
* hamitron pokes Azelphur19:34
hamitron:)19:35
DJonesmmmmmhh  Haggis19:38
hamitrontoday is a good day19:38
MartijnVdShamitron: Ice Cube - Today Was a Good Day?19:39
hamitronno, just a good day ;)19:39
hamitronyesterday I was all poo poo nvidi19:39
MartijnVdShamitron: ""Today I didn't even have to use my A.K.19:39
MartijnVdSI gotta say it was a good day19:39
hamitronnvidia19:39
daubersAlanBell: I'm working to $silly o'clock tomorrow night :(19:39
hamitrontoday I can tollerate them19:40
* Azelphur pokes hamitron19:43
TheOpenSourcererCan't really see much benefit of this. http://www.networkworld.com/community/fedora-15-changes-network-device-naming19:45
hamitronAzelphur: it sorted now?19:46
hamitronlast time I ask if it is19:46
hamitron:)19:46
Azelphuryup no more freezes19:47
Azelphur:D19:47
ali1234TheOpenSourcerer: consistent network device naming sounds good19:47
Azelphurso it was either X updates or busted fan19:47
ali1234ubuntu already implements it through a hack19:47
ali1234but when it goes wrong it's hard to fix (you have to edit an obscure file)19:47
TheOpenSourcererali1234: But my devices are always consistently names anyway... ethX19:47
TheOpenSourcererwhat was eth0 is eth0 tomorrow.19:48
ali1234TheOpenSourcerer: yes and if you replace a network card your networking breaks19:48
ali1234and to fix it you have to edit /etc/udev.7/70-persistent-network.conf19:48
* hamitron is starting to want intel graphics :( someone slap me for it plz19:48
hamitronless drivers hassles... and could try wayland :)19:49
ali1234this sucks. hopefully fedora changes will force the UI designers to make something actually useful for once.19:50
gordhamitron, intel drivers aren't perfect by a long shot19:57
hamitronno, but grass is always greener... I have nvidia ;)19:58
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popeybigcalm: shame it takes so long to generate!20:14
popeybigcalm: it can be run on multiple cores, which is neat20:15
bigcalmpopey: need moar power!20:16
* popey jumps on mc20:16
hamitronwhat is the aim of minecraft? ;/20:22
hamitronwebsite makes it sound like "second life"20:22
popeyits more like lego20:23
dogmatic69hamitron: the main aim is to waste months of you life :D20:23
ali1234minecraft is way better than second life20:23
ali1234and i never even played it and i know that20:23
hamitronit does look better, yeh20:23
hamitron:)20:23
hamitronbut what is the aim? ;/20:24
popeyuses more resources :)20:24
dogmatic69survive20:24
dogmatic69dont get eaten by zombies20:24
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dogmatic69collect cool stuff20:24
hamitronand it is a persistent server?20:24
brobostigonmaybe make cool stuff aswell?20:25
dogmatic69?20:25
ali1234clearly the aim of minecraft is to explore and learn about the world20:25
popeyits probably the best ~10 I have ever spent on software20:25
hamitronif you log out, you can log back in and continue were you left off in multiplayer?20:25
dutchieyeah20:25
dutchieas long as no-one else has destroyed it :)20:26
hamitronis the aim to destroy another?20:26
popeyyou can20:27
ali1234sure, if you want20:27
popeysome people have tournaments20:27
hamitronhow often does it change night to day and back?20:27
dogmatic69hamitron: time continues on the server20:27
popeyminutes20:27
popey20 mins or so day20:27
dogmatic6920 min for 24h20:28
ali1234minecraft is a sandbox game, second life is a distributed (and extremely slow and hard to use, and you have to pay *per triangle*) 3d editor20:28
hamitronso monsters come out at night... are they still there when day comes?20:29
ali1234no20:29
popeysome20:29
dogmatic69some20:29
hamitronk :)20:29
ali1234oh rly?20:29
popeyyeah, creepers dont die in sun20:29
hamitronI'm almost convinced :/20:29
dogmatic69spiders and creepers20:29
popeyspiders dont20:29
hamitroncan you kill them?20:29
hamitron:D20:29
dogmatic69and spiders can now climb walls :/20:30
dogmatic69you can punch, hit with tools, sward and tnt20:30
dogmatic69also build cannons with tnt20:30
daubersand you can make yourself a bow and arrow20:31
hamitronthese blow up lego blocks?20:31
dogmatic69ye and the bow :)20:31
popeyya20:31
popeyand snowballs20:32
dogmatic69"lego" blocks20:32
popeyyou can make armour20:32
popeyout of the hide of cows you kill20:32
dogmatic69build sky scrapers or underground lairs20:32
hamitronare there any comunities with long term servers that never reset then?20:32
dogmatic69bacon... mmmm20:32
popeyyes20:32
popeylots20:32
dogmatic69hamitron: you want to reset now and then20:32
dogmatic69eg: new version added new locks, can find them in explored places20:33
hamitronhow often is that?20:33
popeywhen the author adds a new item, it sometimes only appears in newly generated "chunks" of the world20:34
popeya chunk is a 64x64x128 deep (iirc) block of the world20:34
dogmatic69sounds about right20:35
popeyso if you update the server and there's new items, nobody will see them until they explore new parts of the map20:35
popeyhamitron: you've seen the map on my box?20:35
ali1234what payment methods do they take?20:35
popeypaypal iirc20:35
hamitronpopey: no :/20:35
dogmatic69and if its well explored that could take 1h to get to20:35
popeycredit card if you use that20:35
ali1234i cancelled my paypal account20:35
popeyali1234: you can use cc without a pp account20:35
ali1234visa?20:35
hamitrondogmatic69: but you can build another hut to move to a different part?20:35
popeyhamitron: http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_day.png20:35
dogmatic69paypal just handles the payment, i dont have an account either20:36
ali1234ok, cool20:36
popeyyeah ali123420:36
dogmatic69ali1234: also the price is going up with each new version20:36
hamitronoh, so the world is a limited size?20:36
popeyyes20:36
popey8 times the surface of the earth20:36
dogmatic69its 15 euro atm, will be 25 when its done20:36
hamitrononly 8? ;/20:37
popeyheh20:37
dogmatic691 block == 1m320:37
ali1234"ali1234" is taken FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF20:37
popeylol20:37
popeyyou can literally walk for hours20:37
popeyif you survive :)20:37
gordyou could prolly set a minecraft game on peaceful, tape down w and spacebar and walk for years20:38
hamitronhamitron is taken :/20:38
hamitronSo far 0 people have registered20:38
gordyou would run out of hard-drive space long before the game runs out of precision ;)20:38
dogmatic69there is a youtube video like that, cart track runs in ff for 10min+20:38
hamitronis registration maybe broken?20:39
ali1234i just registered20:39
popey:)20:39
hamitronbah20:39
hamitroncan't stand having different login names :/20:40
popeyhe's recently moved to amazon i think20:40
popeybecause his servers get a royal pounding20:40
* MartijnVdS is happy20:40
MartijnVdSu1ms now has Warner music as well as EMI in the EU store20:41
MartijnVdSstill no Sony20:41
MartijnVdSbut it's a lot better than it was20:41
popeysony :(20:41
dogmatic69hamitron: if dogmatic69 is not available, i dont use that site :D20:41
hamitronit is how I feel :/20:42
MartijnVdSpopey: yeah meh.. but it actually contains popular music now, instead of mostly indie stuff20:42
ali1234purchased :]20:43
ali1234i'm going to waste so much time playing this game20:44
jonsaintneed help for a friend........my friend has just installed ubuntu 10.10 server edition, is there a front end gooey that works??20:45
MartijnVdSjonsaint: for what?20:45
jonsaintfor ubuntu server 10.10 edition#20:45
MonsterKillerdoes one have to restart to apply changes to host.deny?20:45
MartijnVdSMonsterKiller: no20:46
MonsterKillerokay :) thanks20:46
hamitronI may wait till sales of the final version drop and it is open sourced ;)20:46
* hamitron is a patient guy20:46
ali1234jonsaint: why did he install server?20:46
MartijnVdSjonsaint: Ubuntu Server can be lots of kinds of server20:46
MartijnVdSjonsaint: some of those have configuration frontends, others only have config files to edit20:47
DJonesjonsaint: A gui as in Gnome/KDE/XFCE etc?20:47
TheOpenSourcererjonsaint: If you mean like the Gnome Desktop, just type "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment"20:47
TheOpenSourcererThen wait a while ;-)20:48
MartijnVdSa LOOONG while :P20:48
TheOpenSourcererDepends on how fast your Internet access is20:48
MartijnVdSTheOpenSourcerer: and your disk20:48
jonsaintits ok, hes managed to do it. cheers all. once again you have all been superb.20:48
TheOpenSourcererRight then. Horizon time. Laterz20:49
ali1234anybody got a link to a grub2 usb image i can just dd?20:51
popeyhamitron: i knew you wouldnt :)20:53
daubersI love it when hard data backs up your hypothesis \o/20:57
hamitronpopey: you mean to say I look like a tight git? ;/20:57
hamitronneed to think of a username anyway20:58
hamitron:/20:58
hamitronis the username showed in games popey?21:01
hamitronor is the in game name seperate21:01
popeyyes21:02
ali1234lol which?21:02
hamitron:)21:03
hamitronlove "yes" answers \o/ ;)21:03
MartijnVdSuse "xor" next time :)21:04
hamitronhaha21:04
popeyyes to usernames shown in game21:04
hamitron:/21:04
hamitronbetter not pick something dirty then21:04
MartijnVdShamitron: "Hammy Tron"21:05
ali1234to answer my previous question: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/21:06
jonsainthi al (again) my friend wants to know how he can check whos connected to his box?21:10
hamitroncommand "w"21:11
hamitronor is that shell only?21:12
jonsainthe said hes currently in terminal and he wants to know whos connected to him21:12
mgdm'who'21:13
mgdmor w, even21:13
MartijnVdSalias doctor=who21:13
jonsainta friend of mine, hes got some 'virtual box' or something with ubuntu 10.10 server on there21:13
ali1234try 'netstat -tn'21:14
jonsaintthanks. il give him a call and get him to try it21:15
hamitronhmmm21:16
ali1234hmmmmmmm indeed21:16
hamitronstill can't get a damn name to be accepted21:16
hamitronminecraft :(21:16
hamitronI am trying ;/21:16
hamitronmust be loads of users?21:16
ali1234got my second choice (which i normally use when playing games anyway)21:17
hamitronall mine are taken21:18
hamitron:/21:18
MyrttiMINECRAAFFFTTTT21:21
ali1234does 'update-grub' also reinstall grub to the mbr?21:22
ali1234or does it just update the menus?21:22
dutchieuneducated guess based on install-grub being a separate thing: no21:24
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ali1234dutchie: there is no install-grub, there is grub-install but that is part of grub package, not ubuntu scripts21:29
dutchiei did say "uneducated"21:29
ali1234awesome i can play minecraft now21:33
ali1234is the browser version known to not work properly on ubuntu?21:34
ali1234i just get a grey box21:34
ali1234like when the plugin crashes21:34
popeyi suspect so21:37
popeyi just grab the jar21:37
popeyand run it with lots of memory21:37
popeyjava -jar -Xmx2048 -Xms2048 minecraft.jar21:37
MartijnVdS-oracle-bill-to=alan@popey.com21:39
MartijnVdSthat's the new Java 7 feature, isn't it?21:40
brobostigonminecraft.net seems dead.i was just going to have a look.21:41
ali12342048M? i need to buy more memory21:42
czajkowskievening chaparoos21:42
popeybrobostigon: www.minecraft.net21:42
popeyali1234: yeah21:42
popey1GB might be enough21:43
popeydepends how big the map is21:43
ali1234i'll still need to buy more memory21:43
brobostigonpopey: yep, chromium shows me a dead page.21:43
popey:)21:43
ali1234i hit swap all the time as it is21:43
ali12344GB is no longer enough to run ubuntu21:43
popeyfine here brobostigon21:43
brobostigonhmm.21:43
popeybrobostigon: you actually using www.minecraft.net and not minecraft.net21:43
popeythere was an issue with the latter21:44
brobostigonlet me check and try again.21:44
brobostigonweird.21:44
* hamitron can't get the www one to work either21:52
* popey shrugs21:57
popeyits often busy21:57
popeyusually a refresh fixes it21:57
hamitronI got a name \o/21:58
* hamitron does a backflip21:58
hamitronHamish_Itsonu was taken, but Ric_Hard wasn't21:58
hamitronweird ;/21:59
hamitronpopey: is your server up 24/7?22:01
hamitronor do ppl here play in a common place?22:02
hamitronI got it :)22:03
popeyhamitron: yes22:04
popeygenerally speaking its up22:05
hamitronpopey: mind if I join? (need ip)22:07
popeyplease do22:12
popeypopeydc.dyndns.org22:12
* dutchie needs to find out why minecraft pushes loadavg up to >722:13
MartijnVdSbecause it threads a lot, as Java programs do22:14
dutchiethat shouldn't cause performance to die terribly though, should it?22:18
MartijnVdSif they're all using a scarce resource (same bit of memory, the disk or CPU power)22:19
dogmatic69dutchie: because its java22:22
dutchiewell i did think that a bit :)22:22
dogmatic69dutchie: guess when i ran minecraft on my server http://tinyurl.com/67ajqcx22:23
dutchieheh22:23
dogmatic69thats a 256mb slice btw22:23
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* Neoti had a nice game of Magic: The gathering now off to bed.... night all 22:34
popeypoor laptop is swapping as it generates the map22:34
popeygonna make it so it only generates the map once a day :)22:34
gordpopey, have a different computer do it? not got a revo laying about? ;)22:55
ali1234how big is the map data directory?22:56
hamitronam I safe at the top of the tunnel of water?22:57
gordyou are never safe22:58
hamitronI took 3 candles from you tunnels of doom btw ;/22:58
hamitronyour*22:59
hamitrondidn't know wtf I was doing22:59
popeyali1234: 707MB here23:04
utrinqueparatusEvening all23:08
bigcalmSince google have changed my work apps account into a gmail account, I can't have work and personal email open in the same browser at the same time23:09
bigcalmDamn you Google!23:09
shaunohave you tried http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/access-two-gmail-accounts-at-once-in.html ?23:10
bigcalmNo23:10
moreatibigcalm: google has limited multi-sign-in support, or use two browsers23:10
bigcalmshauno: ta for the link23:11
utrinqueparatusI think someone should make a better cbt detailing scripting languages. linuxcbt scripting edition is pants!!!23:11
hamitronit broke?23:12
hamitronblack screen and music :/23:13
ubuntuuk-planet[Ralph Janke] Why is Ubuntu Using Google Maps and not OpenStreetMaps? - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/why-ubuntu-using-google-maps-and-not-openstreetmaps23:14
ubuntuuk-planet[Dominic Watkins] on Mac hints and tips and mini Ubuntu servers - http://rowla.dyndns.org/blog/2011/01/24/mac-os-x-hints-and-tips/23:14
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czajkowskisigh23:17
hamitronindeed23:22
Azelphurhamitron: hmm, I'm starting to get jumps again23:27
AzelphurCPU at 55C, GPU at 69C23:27
brobostigonnos da, sleep well.23:31
popeynn23:31
brobostigonnos da popey, sleep well.23:31
dutchiepopey: going to update the get_iplayer link in http://popey.com/blog/2010/01/14/ubuntu-boxee-and-get_iplayer-on-the-acer-aspire-revo/ to point at http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html23:48
dutchie?23:48
dutchieor alternatively note that it's in the repos nowadays23:49
popeythe one in the repo is old23:50
popeyiirc23:50
cpshello23:54
popeyhi23:54
cpslooks like another all-nighter for me then -.-23:54
hamitronpopey: what was server again?23:55
hamitron(everything crashed and I didn't save it ;)23:55
hamitronnvm23:57
popey:)23:57
* cps shuffles his virgin trains-branded cards23:57
hamitrondoesn't work with synergy+ either23:58
hamitron:/23:58
cps:\23:58

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