[00:00] <hamitron> 12 C and above is fine
[00:00] <hamitron> :)
[00:00] <hamitron> fingers crossed it is just a fan
[00:01] <hamitron> be freaky if we had same problem on same day
[00:01] <markjones> http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1065/avsz.jpg
[00:01] <hamitron> as I have never had it before
[00:01] <Azelphur> haha
[00:02] <hamitron> hehe
[00:02] <ali1234> hoho
[00:02] <Azelphur> wtf
[00:02] <Azelphur> the resolution has gone all messed
[00:02] <Azelphur> the login box is like 1 inch wide
[00:03] <hamitron> have you tried a livecd?
[00:03] <hamitron> :/
[00:03] <hamitron> we all know you mess with things Azelphur ;)
[00:03] <Azelphur> hamitron, I'd have to use the livecd for a while
[00:03] <hamitron> even if you don't say
[00:03] <Azelphur> to confirm
[00:03] <Azelphur> :p
[00:03] <hamitron> yeh
[00:03] <hamitron> but worth it?
[00:04] <hamitron> can watch porn or whatever you do
[00:05] <Azelphur> lol
[00:06] <Azelphur> wtf lol
[00:06] <Azelphur> it's launched X on :1.0
[00:06]  * Azelphur reboots and see's if it does it again
[00:06] <hamitron> :/
[00:06] <hamitron> was so much easier with config files ;)
[00:07] <hamitron> pink punchbag on boffer :(
[00:07] <hamitron> not been great stuff lately
[00:08] <Azelphur> there, I'm up \o/
[00:08] <Azelphur> now to play with it for a while and see if it dies
[00:08] <hamitron> the 1 day i didn't look, it was an external hdd that was cool
[00:08] <hamitron> :)
[00:10] <bigcalm> Night kids
[00:12] <Azelphur> hamitron: haha, pink punchbag
[00:12] <Azelphur> you know there's other boffer-like sites right?
[00:12] <Azelphur> I do a 4 site rotation every day :P
[00:13] <hamitron> no
[00:13] <hamitron> I don't want more
[00:13] <hamitron> just means there is a greater chance of spending money
[00:13] <Azelphur> haha
[00:13] <Azelphur> in other random news, you'll never be as cool as this guy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txVqr1eNwc
[00:14] <hamitron> I am cool? :D
[00:14] <Azelphur> yes, but not as cool as that guy.
[00:14] <hamitron> he gonna bulch or something?
[00:14] <hamitron> belch*
[00:15] <Azelphur> *shrug*
[00:16] <hamitron> looks more like earthworm jim
[00:20] <Azelphur> hamitron: this is hilarious, I'm beating this huge guy at a game of strength xD
[00:20] <Azelphur> http://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-picture-thread?page=2#comment-592 I'm beating this guy
[00:20] <hamitron> hmmm?
[00:20] <Azelphur> (I'm on the first page if you havn't seen me)
[00:21] <Azelphur> we both have these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerball-Neon-Pro/dp/B000OT8J9G and I had the lead on him for like a week with 9.4k points
[00:21] <Azelphur> then after a week of trying he finally got ahead with 9.9k, so 2 hours later I got 10.1k
[00:21] <Azelphur> xxD
[00:21] <Myrtti> minecraft would be overly simple if it had a map.
[00:21] <hamitron> you had to included your monitor setup in your pic...
[00:21] <Myrtti> wow.
[00:22] <Azelphur> hamitron: indeed :D
[00:35] <hamitron> Azelphur: still working?
[00:36] <Azelphur> hamitron: yup
[00:36] <hamitron> was gonna say, tempted to play a game tonight on my stable system ;)
[00:36] <hamitron> only now it has little affect
[00:36] <hamitron> hopefully, anyway
[00:37] <hamitron> no downloading tonight
[00:37] <hamitron> used 59Gb or 60Gb download
[00:37] <hamitron> so full speed tomorrows \o/ :D
[00:38] <Azelphur> \o/
[00:41] <hamitron> brb, coffee
[00:53] <hamitron> still ok Azelphur?
[00:53] <hamitron> :D
[00:53] <Azelphur> hamitron: yup
[00:53] <Azelphur> maybe same problem same day
[00:53] <Azelphur> xd
[00:53] <hamitron> must admit, I have had problems a few days
[00:53] <hamitron> months even
[00:54] <hamitron> just didn't seem to happen all the time
[00:54] <Azelphur> haha
[00:55] <hamitron> I was often stable for over a week
[00:55] <hamitron> then it would just freeze on me regularly for a few hours
[00:55] <hamitron> then right itself
[00:55] <Azelphur> \o/
[00:56] <hamitron> serves me right for using old fans out of old fried PSU ;)
[00:56] <Azelphur> hehe
[00:57] <hamitron> I assume you don't do that
[00:57]  * hamitron looks at the monitor setup
[01:00] <Azelphur> :p
[05:15] <cr215> anyone have any experience with the pulseaudio-equalizer?
[05:16] <cr215> i installed it in the terminal but i cant find it anywhere\
[06:36] <HazRPG> morning all
[06:42] <HazRPG> guess its too early for some folk
[07:00] <HazRPG> Why is cumbria always a deadzone for everything :/
[07:30] <mattt> HazRPG: huh
[07:34] <HazRPG> us cumbrians don't have an awful lot of supports of anything lol
[07:34] <HazRPG> Cumbrian LUG seems to have died
[07:34] <HazRPG> (just as an example)
[07:46] <HazRPG> brb
[08:01] <screen-x> morning :)
[08:03] <AlanBell> morning
[08:03] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning all
[08:12] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:13] <screen-x> morning czajkowski :)
[08:13] <HazRPG> bk
[08:14] <screen-x> HazRPG: bacon cheeseburger and chips?
[08:16] <HazRPG> screen-x: not quite xD
[08:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> +1T for this suggestion: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-11-10-naming/
[08:27] <HazRPG> haha omg I forgot I had that!
[08:27]  * HazRPG adds pokemon theme to playlist for car mix
[08:27] <HazRPG> xD
[08:32]  * jpds will now negate everything HazRPG says with 'I'm sorry, I don't play Pokemon'.
[08:32] <HazRPG> jpds: fair enough, I'm making a CD for the car of random funnies
[08:33] <HazRPG> along with some classics
[08:33] <HazRPG> Rock You Like a Hurricane (for e.g.)
[08:36] <HazRPG> urgh, not fair - my kenny rogers stuff seems to be corrupted and I have no idea where the CD went for it >_<
[08:36] <HazRPG> must on my CD shelf somewhere...
[08:53] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:57] <bigcalm> Morning peeps
[09:14] <HazRPG> morning
[09:14] <HazRPG> argh, I knew there was a reason I didn't use media player to make playlists :/
[09:20] <hoover> morning folks
[09:23] <kazade> directhex, morning, I was just wondering.. should I use badgerports.org for Maverick, or is there a better place to get updated mono packages?
[09:26]  * Neoti moin all....... work as normal.... DOH!!!
[09:28] <HazRPG> mornin
[09:28] <HazRPG> suppose I should get ready to bounce to uni
[09:30] <dutchie> bounce?
[09:30] <dutchie> is your preferred mode of transport pogo stick?
[09:30] <Neoti> HazRGP Bounce to uni .... what are you a ball
[09:30] <HazRPG> Neoti: I might be...
[09:30] <HazRPG> ^^,
[09:31] <HazRPG> dutchie: totally should be xD
[09:31] <Neoti> LOL now that i want to see
[09:31] <HazRPG> what, me bouncing around like a ball, or on a pogo stick?
[09:31] <bigcalm> dutchie: space hopper :)
[09:32] <bigcalm> dutchie: though you might be too young to remember them
[09:32] <Neoti> LOL thats a website killer gram and there are some girl on space hoppers ... lol ....
[09:32] <HazRPG> bigcalm: heh, I remember those
[09:33] <HazRPG> never owned one myself though
[09:33] <dutchie> bigcalm: not quite too young :)
[09:34] <dogmatic69> is it ok to use the same public key all over?
[09:34] <dogmatic69> ie for login to my server and github
[09:36] <Neoti> i dont see why not ....
[09:38] <Neoti> dogmatic69 : i have my key on about 8 servers....
[09:38] <dogmatic69> Neoti: cool, even if someone has access to the pub key it will still be ok?
[09:39] <dutchie> that's the point of a "public" key
[09:39] <Neoti> correct
[09:39] <dogmatic69> cool, just making sure
[09:39] <dogmatic69> thanks :)
[09:39] <Neoti> you stick your key                         all over the place so you can connect to things securely ... just dont publish the privvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvatekey ...
[09:40] <dogmatic69> ye
[09:44] <Neoti1> Hey All im not on my work computer....
[09:44]  * Neoti now on work computer as Neoti1
[09:50] <Neoti1> Whos around...
[09:54] <DJones> Morning all
[10:02] <HazRPG> right I'm away to uni, later
[10:03] <HazRPG> o/
[10:05] <popey> morning all
[10:05] <MooDoo> morning popey
[10:05] <dutchie> lo popey
[10:06] <DJones> hi popey
[10:07] <bigcalm> Morning popey
[10:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> lo popey
[10:10]  * Neoti1 Welll my nagios install is going mad becouse the network just went down ... ARGH!!!!!! DOH!!!! what fun today is going to be 
[10:10]  * diplo sets Neotil to mode 'Not Flapping'
[10:10] <diplo> :P
[10:10] <hoover> mornin popey
[10:10] <hoover> Neoti1: have you checked out icinga?
[10:12] <Neoti1> hoover : no i have not ..... whats that
[10:16] <Neoti1> hoover : just had a look adn i will try it out later on a test machine see if its any good ..... thanks for that
[10:17] <diplo> Still based on nagios mind
[10:18] <diplo> Just had the cgi's etc improved and a few other parts, still core nagios though
[10:20] <DJones> Damm, goint to have to install windows on a acer laptop to update the bios
[10:22] <diplo> Can't do it via boot disk DJones  ?
[10:22] <DJones> diplo: Not sure yet, something I'll have to look at
[10:25] <DJones> diplo: Doesn't look like it, the update is a windows setup.exe
[10:28] <diplo> Dell site used to do those as default, but if you delved deeper you could find a cli update
[10:29] <DJones> This one is an Acer Aspire, I've had a look, but doesn't seem to be much I can find that seems hopefull
[10:30] <DJones> I wonder whether it'd run under wine :)
[10:30] <Neoti1> Does anyone use the Alwayson group for broadband or VPNs ?
[10:34] <diplo> heh, I just looked on there site, one bios update for a model is to 'Fix keyboard issues with linux' but with a windows installer and dos installer.. nothing linux update able in there :D
[10:37] <dogmatic69> can anyone recomend a decent place to buy a new pc?
[10:38] <DJones> diplo: I'm considering trying a windows xp live usb to see if that would work
[10:39] <DJones> dogmatic69: Have a look at nakedcomputer.org Might give you some suggestions of os free machines if thats what you're looking for
[10:40] <dogmatic69> ye, or a place that sells components but will ship built (for work, and they want that :/)
[10:42] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: thakns
[10:42] <czajkowski> *thanks even
[10:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> np czajkowski
[10:43] <MooDoo> czajkowski: morning, you feeling better?
[10:48] <czajkowski> good bit thanks
[10:49] <MooDoo> czajkowski: no worrues :)
[10:59] <gord> omg found custard creams, monday has been rescued!
[10:59] <screen-x> :)
[10:59] <czajkowski> gord: you are amusing
[11:02] <MooDoo> gord: sorry choc bourbons are better
[11:03] <gord> ha, hahahahaha, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. no
[11:03] <Neoti1> custard creams all the way!!!!
[11:03] <MooDoo> gord: meh!
[11:03] <lazarus_> christ my hamstrings are sore this morning
[11:03] <davmor2> morning all
[11:03] <DJones> MooDoo: ,1 for choc bourbons
[11:03] <DJones> +1 even
[11:04] <davmor2> MooDoo: I got a bunch of aq's in the biscuit barrel
[11:04] <MooDoo> my fave and choc moo cow biscuits
[11:05] <lazarus_> morning
[11:06]  * TheOpenSourcerer curses all this talk of biscuits and legs it to make a coffee and grab some Digestives.
[11:06] <lazarus_> has no comp comp
[11:07]  * Neoti1 see TheopenSourcerer go for a coffee and gets one him self... 
[11:08] <diplo> Anyone know of a good tool to remove lots and lots of duplicate CSS lines ?
[11:08] <popey> diplo: vi
[11:09] <diplo> yeah but that means defining each line that's wrong
[11:09] <diplo> Can do that with netbeans
[11:09] <Neoti1> (CTRL+A DEL) LOL... he he
[11:09] <diplo> Or can I get it to see if there is an exact duplicate to delete any lines following ?
[11:10] <diplo> I've debated that Neoti1 if it wasn't so big i would start again
[11:10] <Neoti1> sorry diplo.... had to say it ...
[11:12]  * TheOpenSourcerer returns armed with coffee, a digestive AND a shortbread finger too :-D
[11:12] <diplo> Hmm having to install vim :/
[11:12] <diplo> Want to go back to ubuntu on my lappy but I can't resolve the fans spinning all the time
[11:13] <czajkowski> diplo: are you running Ubuntu one ?
[11:15] <diplo> On windows yeah, and actually on ubuntu box as well yeah
[11:16] <diplo> I think the issue is that linux doesn't detect the fan properly
[11:16] <diplo> Keep meaning to maybe try askubuntu, asked here a few times with out a reply yet.
[11:19] <czajkowski> diplo: I just found from times my fans used to spin crazy when I was synin my U1
[11:22] <diplo> okay, will give it a try under u1, was defo an issue with Windows as U1 was running at 25%+ when running with sync turned on
[11:22] <diplo> Didn't even think about it on ubuntu
[11:25] <bigcalm> popey: checked the map recently? (near spawn area)
[11:26] <popey> ooer
[11:26] <Myrtti> can the multiplayer maps be played in Peaceful if others aren't?
[11:26] <popey> yes
[11:26] <popey> you can switch off monsters in smp
[11:26] <popey> bigcalm: you?
[11:26] <Myrtti> so I can play the map with you guys in Peaceful even if you're playing it with monsters?
[11:27] <popey> oh, sorry, misunderstood
[11:27] <popey> no
[11:27] <bigcalm> No
[11:27] <matti> ;]
[11:27] <Myrtti> boo.
[11:27] <popey> the server dictates whether there are monsters
[11:27] <bigcalm> popey: making a hot tap
[11:27] <Laney> how do you get the mob drops without mobs?
[11:27] <Myrtti> I'll just continue on my single player baby steps map then
[11:27] <Myrtti> btw, would a #ubuntu-uk-minecraft be a good idea ;]
[11:27] <Myrtti> or do you have it already :-D
[11:27] <popey> heh
[11:28] <bigcalm> Na. Minecraft comes under the heading of kittens
[11:28] <bigcalm> :D
[11:28] <Myrtti> popey: thanks for the distraction tho, there's been a lot going on lately and minecraft is a good distraction from overly active brain
[11:28] <bigcalm> We wouldn't want to be off topic
[11:28] <popey> :) its fun
[11:29] <bigcalm> Much fun
[11:29] <popey> Myrtti: you're welcome to jump on the server any time, it's pretty much always up
[11:29] <popey> bigcalm: i might generate day _and_ night graphs
[11:29] <bigcalm> Last night popey and I made a mob grinder from a dungeon mob spawner. Sadly we're only collecting feathers
[11:29] <gord> popey, want my script? also keeps a history
[11:29]  * popey modifies the script
[11:29] <bigcalm> popey: I think that would be useful
[11:29] <popey> gord: i has one :)
[11:30] <popey> http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/2011/
[11:30] <popey> :)
[11:30] <gord> popey, is it the same one i have? because i copy pasted from somewhere
[11:30] <popey> no, i wrote mine
[11:30] <bigcalm> Those maps are going to take up a lot of space
[11:30] <bigcalm> Going to make an animation from them?
[11:31] <gord> .... people less lazy than me *shakes fist*
[11:33]  * czajkowski hugs Myrtti 
[11:34] <Myrtti> I'm trying to work though, which I call a personal feat
[11:34] <Myrtti> I can do video editing and instructing pidgin usage, but I've got no hope of thinking about anything complex about marketing or learning Qt
[11:36] <gord> learning Qt isn't easy at the best of times
[11:37] <Myrtti> Qt Quick is fairly simple though
[11:41] <screen-x> I have a box which is 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, but loadavg is 2, why should that be?
[11:41] <jpds> screen-x: Is it HP?
[11:41] <screen-x> jpds: no, it's a VM.
[11:42] <popey> yay http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_day.png vs http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_night.png
[11:42] <screen-x> loadavg is normally 0.3ish
[11:42] <popey> bigcalm: yeah, maybe
[11:42] <screen-x> but has been high since a reboot this morning, but I haven't been able to work out why.
[11:42] <MartijnVdS> popey: you need more upstream bandwidth :)
[11:43] <popey> MartijnVdS: :)
[11:43] <popey> alan@hactar:~/bin$ du -hs /var/www/maps/
[11:43] <popey> 1.6G    /var/www/maps/
[11:43] <popey> ls
[11:43] <popey> bah
[11:44] <lazarus_> MartijnVdS: popey howdy
[11:44] <screen-x> jpds: why the HP comment?
[11:45] <Myrtti> you do know what load means though? it probably is waiting for the hard drive
[11:46] <screen-x> Myrtti: but in that case you'd expect a large value for io wait.
[11:46] <jpds> screen-x: bug #574910
[11:54] <lazarus_>  does gwibber have issues with twitter ?
[11:55] <czajkowski> lazarus_: from time to time depending on what verion you are running
[11:55] <czajkowski> it may get a bit slow in updating
[11:55] <czajkowski> lazarus_: killing it and restarting tends to fix it tbh
[11:56] <lazarus_> ok
[11:56] <DJones> lazarus_: Which version of ubuntu are you using, I've found 10.10 is quite stable, very rarely a problem, but earlier versions were unstable
[11:57] <lazarus_> DJones: 10.10
[11:58] <popey> bigcalm: might pop on the server later and go for a very very long wander :)
[11:59]  * DaveMorris is confused with su.  Written a small backup script which I want to run as my user, by dumping it in cron.daily.  I switch to root (sudo su) to test it, and run it but it asks for my password before doing the su command.  The su command is su dave -c "/etc/cron.daily/daily-backup.sh" however if I do su dave -c "whoami" it works fine
[11:59] <bigcalm> popey: take food!
[11:59] <bigcalm> And a boat
[12:01] <DaveMorris> grrr
[12:01] <DaveMorris> stupid mistake, which you always find after posting :)
[12:01]  * gord designs bot to constantly walk forward on popey's minecraft server, eating up all his hard-drive space
[12:02] <Laney> DaveMorris: sudo -u username yourcommandhere
[12:02] <DaveMorris> Laney: yeah I was doing that correctly
[12:03] <DaveMorris> the script I was then calling, didn't contain what I thought it did
[12:03] <DaveMorris> it was trying to do a su as well
[12:03] <tugrik> ew
[12:03] <bigcalm> popey: got to the other chest. Loaf of bred, 2 red stone, 3 iron, bucket, saddle and 3 string
[12:04] <tugrik> don't su in scripts :)
[12:04] <tugrik> best to run the script as that user in /etc/cron/crontab IMHO
[12:05] <tugrik> sorry, make that "/etc/crontab" :)
[12:06] <popey> heheh bigcalm :)
[12:06] <popey> bigcalm: is it still spawning?
[12:09] <DJones> Are there any benefits to installing 64-bit Ubuntu on a machine with max ram of 2Gb?
[12:10] <bigcalm> popey: yep, I've cleane it up as well
[12:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> Anyone know of an on-line place I can get someone to connect to with a Windows Computer so that I can then connect too and get remote control of their PC?
[12:10] <bigcalm> Much more productive now
[12:10] <DJones> Its not going to be a regular use machine, more for playing & testing
[12:12] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: yuuguu
[12:12] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Paul Tansom] What have I done? - http://www.linuxlore.co.uk/2011/01/23/what-have-i-done/
[12:12] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: crossloop
[12:13] <MartijnVdS> popey: that link of yours is a hit here at work :)
[12:13] <Nafallo> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668 ← slightly off-topic, but relevant to your interest.
[12:13] <popey> hehe
[12:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: Thanks. Will look at both of them.
[12:14] <popey> yuuguu is java based, and cross platform, crossloop is windows only, but might work in wine at your end
[12:15] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: dimdim also
[12:22] <DJones> Could be interesting, Sky set to buy a wireless hotspot provider & offer it to broadband customers as a competition to BT's service
[12:24] <Neoti1> LOL djones Sky use BT for there broadband anyway.... there just a reseller of the BT wholesale stuff... what would be good is if Virgin media did something with wifi .. now that would really challenge BT .....
[12:25] <DJones> Neoti1: Not always, they're installing their own equipment in some exchanges so apart from using the wires from house to exchange they're not reselling
[12:26] <gord> when i was with sky, they wern't based on bt
[12:27] <Neoti1> i work with another high level telecom company and im sure when i looked last they used BT Wholesale for broadband and then just packaged it up as there own with there own router etc.... will have to look again ...
[12:27] <DJones> gord: Same here, sky put their equipment in our exchange and they charge a lot less than the reseller price, something like £10/mth for unlimited instead £18/mth
[12:28] <DJones> Neoti1: It depends which exchange, if they've not put their own equipment into an exchange, then they do resell the bt package, but otherwise its just a sky package
[12:29]  * Neoti1 stands corrected by DJones :)
[12:29] <DJones> :)
[12:29] <Neoti1> Djones : what would also be good is if Sky would offer Satalite internet via there sky box...
[12:29] <DJones> I've been on sky for about 3-4 years since they enable our exchange
[12:29] <Neoti1> that would also be kinda cool
[12:30] <gord> i doubt they have the bandwidth for a large scale satellite internet system
[12:31] <gord> especially one that has to share with the tv service
[12:31] <DJones> I'd like them to offer internet access via the sky receiver
[12:31] <DJones> iplayer etc
[12:31] <Neoti1> well would be kinda good .... VM have TV and Internet on one line... sky could offer internet and TV over the air waves etc.
[12:32] <gord> yeah but like i said, bandwidth is limited
[12:32] <Neoti1> Yeah... suppose your rite there
[12:32] <gord> satellite tech is really only good for broadcasting, when you want the same signal to go out to looots of places, its not really suited for the internet
[12:32] <DJones> I'd be tempted to move to VM, but they won't cable our road, even though houses within 100 yards do get cable
[12:33] <gord> VM won't cable our *town*, i hate them :(
[12:34] <Neoti1> is it a private road?
[12:34] <Neoti1> i love VM ... i have 50MB... soon to be 100MB when i get the trial....
[12:34] <DJones> Nope, right at the entrance to a housing estate, some of which seems to have cable
[12:35]  * DJones considers sueing VM for distcrimination because of where I live :)
[12:35]  * Neoti1 Hates DJones consideration to sue!!!! 
[12:36] <Neoti1> LOL
[12:36] <Neoti1> Djones, im sure they will cable the road soon ....
[12:37] <davmor2> DJones: did you think that the council wouldn't give permission to dig it up, or that the estate didn't exist when the cable was laid?
[12:37] <Neoti1> or if you all get together and start a group thing to get VM to cable the street that will work
[12:37] <DJones> Neoti1: I doubt it, I've asked them a few times over the last 5 years, its always "They have no plans in that area"
[12:38]  * Neoti1 VM get your finger out and cable more streets!!!!!!
[12:38] <DJones> davmor2: Its possible, but you'd think the VM sales people that come round knocking at the door about once a year would know that the area wasn't cabled before trying to sell me a tv & broadband package
[12:40] <davmor2> DJones: Not if the council say no.  VM's hands are tied in those instances as they have no grounds to countermand the councils say so,  if you find that is the case you can approach your council as a tax payer but vm can't it's daft
[12:41] <czajkowski> http://twitpic.com/3sza02  NYOMMY!!!
[12:42] <bigcalm> Had porridge. That was yum
[12:43] <DJones> davmor2: I think its probably a case that they extended the cabling into the estate as it was being finished, but because some of the houses right at the entrance to it were show houses, they didn't quite get there because the developer didn't want the show houses looking a mess/difficult to get to
[12:43] <davmor2> DJones: sounds about right
[12:46] <davmor2> DJones: over here it's the home builders responsibility to contact cable/electric/bt etc to inform them that the properties are ready for connection, if the same rule applies down there then maybe the builders didn't want cable streaks in their paths
[12:48] <DJones> That'd make sense
[12:50] <Neoti1> i personally dont move to a place/area that does not have cable... i Hate BT's BB services.....
[12:51] <Azelphur> Neoti1: there isn't all that much of the UK covered by cable :(
[12:52] <Azelphur> also, VFast is interesting
[12:52]  * Azelphur isn't in a coverage area for that either
[12:52]  * Neoti1 Looks at Vfast with interest 
[12:53] <Azelphur> they do 10mbit (soon 100mbit) WiMax
[12:53] <Azelphur> but you have to be line of site to their antenna
[12:55] <Neoti1> or have a friend between the antenna that can re-broadcast the signal for you ... LOL....
[12:55] <Azelphur> haha
[13:21] <Gringo> #help
[13:21] <Azelphur> !ask | Gringo
[13:21] <Gringo> Need some help guys im i on the right channel?
[13:21] <Azelphur> if it's ubuntu help you need, yup :)
[13:21] <Gringo> Just installed ubuntu but i have no sound :/
[13:22] <DJones> Gringo: Ask away, if we can't help, you could also try the #ubuntu channel which is a lot busier
[13:23] <Gringo> Under sound preferences/hardware it says internal audio 1output/1 input analolog stero duplex
[13:24] <Gringo> anyone?
[13:24] <DJones> Gringo: Do you know which soundcard is installed?
[13:24] <Gringo> its a built in one on my gigabyte mobo
[13:25] <DJones> !paste | Gringo Can you run "lspci" in a terminal and copy the output into the pastebin link that the bot gives & then copy the link to website it gives you here so we can see what hardware you've got
[13:29] <Gringo> http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/100839
[13:33] <DJones> Gringo: This might help, it gives details of troubleshooting methods & the person seems to have got sound working by the end of it http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661716
[13:34] <DJones> Although just reading it, they seem to have sound working, their problem was with the microphones
[13:34] <Gringo> ill give it a shot thanx buddy, 1 more more question i cant open rar files says archieve types not supported
[13:34] <DJones> !rar
[13:35] <DJones> You need to install the winrar app or unrar-free from synaptic
[13:36] <DJones> Gringo: The package you need to install will be "unrar" that should solve that problem
[13:36] <Neoti1> or 7z thin thats what it is
[13:36] <Gringo> whats the command for rar i tried the sudo app get but that didnt work
[13:37] <MartijnVdS> Gringo: please read what people were telling you :)
[13:37] <DJones> From a terminal, try "sudo apt-get install unrar" which will ask you for your password
[13:38] <Gringo> thanx
[13:41]  * Neoti1 LOL @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12262714
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> Neoti1: a bit of a neighing laugh? :)
[14:02] <Neoti1> lol
[14:02] <Neoti1> have u seeen this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251310 i might get one .... bloody awesome... stick a dual graphicss card in there for the dual screens i have and bang ...
[14:04] <popey> yes, I got their spam today too :)
[14:04] <Neoti1> :) ....
[14:04] <popey> I like that the first comment is from someone running Ubuntu
[14:04] <Neoti1> some on the reviews has put about ubuntu 64bit etc... so looks good tome.. though i would like to know the mobo specs...
[14:05] <Neoti1> snap!
[14:05] <Azelphur> has anyone noticed nautilus seems to be terrible at copying things to USB drives
[14:06] <Neoti1> humm add a sata raid mirror and an extra HDD and a dual screen graphincs card and NICE!
[14:06] <Azelphur> just now for example I copied a 700MB file, it shot straight to 670MB complete, then stopped for ages
[14:06] <Azelphur> \o/
[14:07] <MartijnVdS> \o/ disk cache :)
[14:10] <gord> Azelphur, yeah its not nautilus, its linux ;) its not terrible just hard to actually report the right statistics
[14:11] <Azelphur> lol
[14:11] <Neoti1> gord its turned in to windows.... with the whole thing or reporting stats wrong
[14:14] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQoF24ozJw pretty damn good
[14:16] <DJones> That install is fast :)
[14:16] <Neoti1> LOL thats good ... was it made with Kdenlive though or on a ubuntu computer cos thaqt would be ace
[14:16] <bigcalm> czajkowski: I spy Sil
[14:17] <DJones> Neoti1: End credits say produced and created with Kdenlive on 10.10
[14:18] <Neoti1> ah did not see that .. lol AWESOME!!!!!!!
[14:20] <Neoti1> ok im after a dual headed Graphics card for using in ubuntu which one ?
[14:22] <davmor2> czajkowski: yeap it is that's why I retweeted it I thought it was worthy
[14:22] <Neoti1> whats more supported Nvidia ?
[14:23] <Neoti1> thinking about a NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS ?
[14:25] <czajkowski> *sigh* yes please send me a doc to review.. then don't attach it :(
[14:27] <gord> Neoti1, the 8000 series is currently pretty well supported via the open source drivers i hear
[14:29] <Neoti1> gord was thinking http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174131
[14:30] <gord> i can't comment on the open soruce drivers but i use two monitors with my current graphics card just fine, nvidia gtx 260, used to run two monitors off a geforce 6600 just fine also
[14:36] <Azelphur> multi monitor discussion? why has nobody highlighted me yet :P
[14:36] <dogmatic69> im running a geforce 9800 1gig with 2x monitors on the ubuntu supplied drivers
[14:37] <Azelphur> I'm running a GTX 570 and 8800GT with 4x1920x1200
[14:37] <dogmatic69> ^ nice
[14:37] <Neoti1> Double nice ^
[14:37] <dogmatic69> 4x nice :D
[14:37] <Neoti1> lol
[14:38] <Azelphur> xD
[14:38] <Azelphur> http://game.azelphur.com/forum/official-post-your-rig-thread
[14:39] <dogmatic69> Azelphur: you on the antique desk?
[14:39] <Azelphur> yup :p
[14:39] <Azelphur> I need a new desk but havn't seen anything I like
[14:39] <Azelphur> they don't build em like they used to.
[14:42] <Twinkletoes> The resolvconf package doesn't populate /etc/resolv.conf upon reboot, but only when manually restarting networking.  man resolv.conf gives a similar example to my setup (iface eth0 inet static) so I'm assuming I'm doing things right.  Why doesn't resolvconf work at reboot?
[14:49] <brobostigon> afternoonings all.
[14:50] <Neoti1> howdy
[14:50] <brobostigon> afternoonings Neoti1
[14:51]  * brobostigon has decided to stick with gingerbread, but give up on native gmail and use k9 insted.
[14:51] <Neoti1> what phone u got
[14:51] <Neoti1> i got galaxy s i9000
[14:51] <Neoti1> only Froyo tho
[14:51] <brobostigon> Neoti1: htc dream
[14:52] <Neoti1> kool
[14:52] <Azelphur> I got HTC Desire Z \o/
[14:53] <Neoti1> what that heavy bulky phone ... he he
[14:53] <DJones> Azelphur: How do you cope? ...... A phone only has one screen :)
[14:54] <Neoti1> lol....
[14:54]  * brobostigon installs setcpu
[14:54] <Azelphur> haha :D
[14:55] <Azelphur> DJones: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/January%202011/IMG_20110117_033502.jpg is how I cope
[14:55] <brobostigon> urghh, that coffee ijust made is awful.
[14:55] <Azelphur> that gets me up to 3, but it isn't exactly 4.
[14:55] <DJones> Heh
[14:56] <Neoti1> what specs the netbook ?
[14:56] <cps> afternoon peeps :)
[14:56] <brobostigon> cps: afternoonings ttm :)
[14:57] <Azelphur> Neoti Atom N450 1.6ghz, I think 1GB RAM
[14:57] <cps> brobostigon: hey, how are you?
[14:57] <Neoti1> what make ...
[14:57] <Azelphur> it's an Asus EEE 1001P
[14:57] <Neoti1> oh ...
[14:57] <brobostigon> cps: not bad, my eczema is calming down, and the infection is going. how about you?
[14:58] <cps> brobostigon: I'm okay :) good to hear about the eczema
[14:58] <brobostigon> cps: :)
[14:59]  * cps bought a new keyboard today
[15:00] <brobostigon> cps: what kind?
[15:01] <cps> brobostigon: just a cheap one from argos
[15:01] <screen-x> cps: as bigcalm says, a new keyboard is as good as a holiday
[15:01] <cps> it's a very good one, however
[15:01] <cps> excellent build quality, good tactile feedback
[15:02] <davmor2> Azelphur: http://ubuntuone.com/p/Zp1/ no idea what you mean and as soon as I find the power lead for the other monitor they'll be another 2 pc up and running :)
[15:02] <cps> screen-x: I can't see how a keyboard would compare to a holiday :s lol
[15:02] <brobostigon> cps: ah, ok.
[15:02] <screen-x> cps: refreshing for the hands/wrists/arms to be in a slightly different position
[15:02] <Azelphur> davmor2: cool :D
[15:02] <cps> screen-x: ah
[15:03] <cps> the old keyboard I used was advertised as an “ergonomic” keyboard for some reason
[15:03] <cps> looked rather normal but it was the cheapest USB keyboard available
[15:05]  * cps opens the vent above his window
[15:08] <cps> hmm
[15:08] <cps> haggis, neeps and tatties tomorrow
[15:08]  * Neoti1 installs "My Traceroute" on my hosted CentOS 5.5 box to prove to a network provider the packet lose is on there end!!!!
[15:09] <cps> Neoti: haha, how long has that situation being going omn for?
[15:09] <cps> Neoti1 *
[15:11] <Neoti1> about 6 days.... i have given so much info to the provider and this is the last thing im sending to them... i send SIP RTP down the line and packets keep getting lost so MTR if left running for an hour will tell me deffinetly which router is losing the packets and how much packet lose there is .... which this i can go to the provider and give them hell ... lol
[15:11] <brobostigon> ok, does anyone here have android 2.3, and know how to reduce the mount of workspaces, ie, delete workspaces with the native android launcher. please.
[15:14]  * cps digs out his g2
[15:16] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: afaik you can't
[15:16] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: not good. :(
[15:16] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I've left the outer two empty
[15:16] <brobostigon> adw-launcher here we come.
[15:17] <DJones> brobostigon: I think you have to change to a different launcher
[15:17] <popey> brobostigon: why do you want less workspaces?
[15:17] <brobostigon> DJones: thats what i will have to do.
[15:17] <brobostigon> popey: they are there doing nothing,
[15:19] <popey> and that is a problem why?
[15:20] <brobostigon> popey: because i dont want them there, is i am not going to use them, and it uses resources better used elsewhere.
[15:20] <gord> eerrr
[15:20] <gord> nooooo
[15:20] <gord> it will use up no more resources than 1 workspace if you don't use them
[15:20]  * brobostigon thinks he needs to go bang his head on a hard surface.
[15:21] <brobostigon> cheers gord
[15:21] <popey> indeed
[15:21] <popey> i guess it's like having multiple desktops in x
[15:21] <brobostigon> popey: indeed.
[15:22] <popey> But then I know someone who obsessively closes windows because they get confused by having more than one thing open
[15:22] <kaushal> hi
[15:22] <popey> which is insanely frustrating
[15:22] <kaushal> Please guide further about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557694/
[15:22]  * popey expects an sql query from kaushal 
[15:22] <kaushal> popey: hi
[15:22] <popey> ah, there it is
[15:22] <kaushal> popey: you are super fast
[15:22] <brobostigon> i have four workspaces open here and about half dozen apps.
[15:22] <popey> you're asking an oracle question on an ubuntu mailing list kaushal ?
[15:22] <popey> I hope you have your flame retardant underpants on?
[15:23] <popey> you're going to get quite a kicking
[15:23] <popey> (I suspect)
[15:24] <popey> mind you the person I am talking about (multiple windows open not) also refuses to have two items of food in her mouth at once
[15:24] <popey> can't cope with two tastes
[15:24] <popey> very weird
[15:27] <screen-x> popey: I always mix my cereals :)
[15:27]  * DJones wonders if a bacon buttie counts as two seperate tastes, or would that only be with the addition of sausage or hp sauce
[15:28] <gord> ... why are you people putting two items of food in your mouth at once? o_O stop cramming your face! eat slower!
[15:29] <DJones> gord: I'm catching up, after having teeth out last week, I've got a weeks worth of crispy food to catch up on
[15:31] <popey> gord: roast dinner, a piece of meat and some vegetables on a fork isn't unheard of
[15:31] <popey> for her, she would eat exactly one thing at a time
[15:31] <popey> mind you, my OCD habits are just as bad :D
[15:32] <popey> I find it hard to put washing on the washing line if the pegs don't match (both wood or both plastic, or both one colour)
[15:32] <bigcalm> popey: when are the maps regenerated?
[15:32] <popey> every 10 mins
[15:32] <bigcalm> On the 10 min mark?
[15:32] <popey> yes
[15:32] <popey> http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/
[15:32] <popey> see current_day and current_night
[15:32] <bigcalm> Ta
[15:33] <popey> generated 2 mins ago
[15:33] <popey> hehe, i see gord visited :)
[15:34]  * dutchie visits
[15:34]  * dutchie needs a break from maths :(
[15:35] <jpds> dutchie: Teach your computer how to count.
[15:37] <screen-x> popey: how big are your vnstat dbs?
[15:37] <popey> que?
[15:38] <popey> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 2272 2011-01-24 15:35 eth0
[15:38] <popey> small
[15:38] <jpds> screen-x: It's RRD.
[15:39] <screen-x> Mine are all exactly that size, reguardless of length of time recording.
[15:39] <screen-x> jpds: ahh, that would make sense
[15:40] <popey> anyway kaushal put that in a file and save it, then at the sql> prompt type @filename.sql
[15:40] <popey> it will run it
[15:40] <popey> kaushal: or just paste it into the sql> prompt
[15:40] <popey> without all those quotes around it
[15:44]  * dutchie loads up the popeymap to locate where his house went
[15:44] <popey> :)
[15:44] <brobostigon> and why one earth does the power control in gingerbread not have a control to turn data on and off.
[15:44] <gord> brobostigon, you mean the widget? it never had that, there isn't enough space
[15:45] <brobostigon> gord: the cm version of 2.2.1 did.
[15:45] <gord> i have wifi, blutooth, sound, sync and brightness
[15:46] <brobostigon> gord: in 2.3 here same, but in the cyanogenmod version of 2.2.1 it had one for data aswell.
[15:46] <gord> data would be kinda silly, you only really need that if you are roaming (auto turns off then anyway) or you are gonna go over your limit, in which case thats really a one time thing, so you can just enable it in the settings. don't need quick access
[15:47] <brobostigon> gord: i find sometimes it uses alot of power consimpation, so i tented to only turn it on when needed.
[15:48] <brobostigon> consumption* tended*
[15:50]  * czajkowski has a fruit mix. day got a lot better
[15:50] <czajkowski> yummy melon and pineapple wiht some mango
[15:53] <gord> ... note to self, steal czajkowski's food. has the tasty things
[15:55] <czajkowski> gord: tesco 2 tubs for 2 quid
[15:55] <czajkowski> one frutity one exotic
[15:55] <czajkowski> both damn tasty
[15:55] <czajkowski> gord: told you, do your shopping online :)
[15:55] <dutchie> i think i will go to tesco in a minute
[16:00]  * AlanBell has borbon creams
[16:03] <czajkowski> ohhh tasty
[16:03]  * Neoti1 victory is mine .... that provider has admitted its there problem regarding my packet lose ... YEY!!!!
[16:04] <kaushal> popey: hi again
[16:04] <kaushal> sorry was away
[16:05] <kaushal> I did run that it did not exit
[16:07] <popey> kaushal: explain?
[16:07] <popey> what makes you think it should exit?
[16:11] <kaushal> popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557703/
[16:12] <kaushal> popey: shall i pastebin the query ?
[16:13] <kaushal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557694/
[16:13] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Bell] Edubuntu at BETT 2011 - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/01/24/edubuntu-at-bett-2011/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=edubuntu-at-bett-2011
[16:17] <popey> kazade: you didnt read what I typed
[16:17] <popey> 16:07:37 < popey> what makes you think it should exit?
[16:18] <popey> what if you just paste it into sqlplus?
[16:18]  * dutchie burned tongue with coffee :(
[16:19] <kazade> popey, ??
[16:19] <popey> http://unreasonablefaith.com/2011/01/24/an-ant-drinking-from-a-raindrop/ wow
[16:19] <kazade> oh tab completion fail popey
[16:19] <popey> sorry
[16:22] <czajkowski> dutchie: not good
[16:26] <popey> 22671 alan      20   0 2481m 1.4g 5064 S   17 48.2 100:10.98 java
[16:26] <popey> :)
[16:28] <bigcalm> popey: I've been walking a little
[16:29] <popey> so you have
[16:30] <Myrtti> boo.
[16:30] <Myrtti> stupid minecraft
[16:30] <Myrtti> I lost my house.
[16:30] <bigcalm> At a big cave. Don't know if I should keep walking or not
[16:30] <Myrtti> I can't find it.
[16:30] <bigcalm> Myrtti: build another one :)
[16:30] <Myrtti> not that I care too much, but it has all my junk
[16:30] <dogmatic69> Myrtti: build a compas, will take you back to spawn
[16:30] <Myrtti> and this is the THIRD house I've build
[16:30] <dogmatic69> 4 gold + 1 red stone dust
[16:31] <Myrtti> dogmatic69: I didn't build my house there, so I'm at lost even with the compass
[16:31] <Myrtti> stupid goddammit...
[16:31] <dogmatic69> :D
[16:31] <Myrtti> *cough*
[16:31] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[16:31] <dogmatic69> i always build a huge tower so it can be seen from pretty far
[16:31] <popey> Myrtti: generate a map
[16:31] <popey> then you will be able to find it again
[16:32] <Myrtti> popey: what would you recommend for an app for that?
[16:32] <popey> i use mcmap
[16:32] <Myrtti> thankies
[16:32] <popey> its in git
[16:32] <popey> somewhere :)
[16:32] <popey> git clone https://github.com/Zahl/mcmap.git
[16:32] <popey> in my bash history as it happens
[16:33] <popey> just run mcmap with one parameter which is the "world1" folder where your world data is, which is probably directly under where your minecraft.jar is
[16:34] <popey> bigcalm: i see a pile of sand in amongst some trees at teh very top right of the map :)
[16:34] <popey> yours?
[16:35] <bigcalm> No, I've walked to the bottom left
[16:35] <popey> ah
[16:35] <Myrtti> how do you get down from the top of the pillar without killing yourself in the fall?
[16:35] <popey> dig
[16:35] <bigcalm> Lots of snow and then some lights
[16:35] <popey> i build two towers adjacent
[16:35] <Myrtti> ah, ok
[16:35] <popey> look odown, jump and place, jump and place
[16:35] <popey> *down
[16:36] <popey> step onto second one and dig it back down leaving the other one up
[16:46] <czajkowski> sounds like some new craze of a dance move popey
[16:46] <popey> :)
[16:46] <popey> I do not dance*
[16:46] <popey>  
[16:46] <popey> *(this is a tiny lie)
[16:48] <popey> bigcalm: generating a google maps zoomable map :)
[16:49] <popey> takes 40 mins !
[16:49] <Myrtti> ha, there they are, both my houses
[16:50] <czajkowski> heh
[16:51] <popey> :)
[16:52] <Myrtti> now I'm made a pillar at where I'm lost...
[16:53] <popey> regenerate map :)
[16:53] <Myrtti> oh good grief
[16:53] <popey> see where you are
[16:53] <Myrtti> I'm on the other side of the damned map
[16:53] <popey> hehe
[16:53]  * Neoti1 yey home time...
[16:53] <popey> nice to get out and about
[17:08] <danfish> afternoon all
[17:08] <danfish> \o/ in 20mins my linode will have had an uptime of 100 days :)
[17:10] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[17:11]  * Myrtti facepalms http://flickr.com/gp/myrtti/2hA8Gc
[17:11] <gord> tesco don't allow non alphanumeric characters for passwords and you can't have more than ten characters.. why would anyone ever enforce a limit of 10 characters on a password!!
[17:12] <Myrtti> my bank has even worse
[17:12] <gord> "sound be between six and ten characters in length, upper-case and lower-case letters are treated the same". so basically, you can brute force this on a zx zpectrum
[17:12] <Myrtti> then again, the password is only for identification, the actual login comes with a onetime passkey
[17:12] <gord> s/sound/should
[17:17] <DJones> There's not a lot of consistency with banks & their online logon's
[17:18] <DJones> One bank uses an id number/password/secret information & the secret info has to be entered via drop down boxes rather than typing it in
[17:19] <popey>  heheh Myrtti
[17:21] <popey> bigcalm: discovered the server.properties file :) and spawn-monsters=true
[17:30] <pr0ph3t> I have a problem with my 3g integrated modem, basically I cannot connect, in practice it seems there is no signal, i.e. the radio is off, but in windows works fine, in exactly the same spot. I have a Asus UL30A-QX328V Laptop, running Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 64 bit with kernel 2.6.37-12-generic, any help would be greatly appreciated!
[17:31] <popey> pr0ph3t: how are you trying to connect?
[17:31] <pr0ph3t> popey, different ways, I tried the wizard as well
[17:32] <popey> you have a sim in it, from which network?
[17:32] <pr0ph3t> O2-UK
[17:32] <popey> and when you go through network manager, does it ask you for the carrier?
[17:32] <pr0ph3t> it's a laptop on contract from O2
[17:32] <pr0ph3t> yes
[17:33] <pr0ph3t> popey, the apn, the password and the username
[17:33] <popey> you have seen http://dev.iksaif.net/boards/2/topics/54 ?
[17:34] <pr0ph3t> popey, indeed
[17:34] <pr0ph3t> yes I have
[17:34] <popey> have you tried the patch?
[17:34] <sprite> ( o Y o )
[17:34] <popey> hello sprite
[17:34] <pr0ph3t> I tried to get in touch with Dan but he hasn't replied yet
[17:34] <sprite> hello :]
[17:35] <pr0ph3t> popey, the patch was merged into mainline a while ago
[17:35] <pr0ph3t> it works with control files with either "0" or "1" in them
[17:35] <popey> ah
[17:35] <pr0ph3t> and the wwan file has 1 in it
[17:35] <pr0ph3t> but the radio seems to be off still
[17:37] <pr0ph3t> I tried to ask the guy on that thread and also on ubuntu forums, he has the same model as me, but he hasn't replied, a month since I first tried to contact him
[17:37] <popey> file a bug?
[17:37] <popey> against network manager
[17:37] <pr0ph3t> but he says he managed to get it to work
[17:37] <pr0ph3t> I did
[17:38] <pr0ph3t> but if he managed to get it to work
[17:39] <popey> whats the bug number?
[17:40] <pr0ph3t> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/700627
[17:41] <pr0ph3t> popey, that's the bug, it is regarding an anomaly that I found when looking at syslog
[17:41] <popey> pr0ph3t: same on a live cd?
[17:42] <pr0ph3t> I have never tried it on live I don't think, why would it be different?
[17:43] <pr0ph3t> I will give it a go though, live usb is the same right?
[17:44] <pr0ph3t> popey, it's my first bug report so there might be something wrong or inappropriate, I apologise in advance
[17:44] <popey> its the best way to say its not anything to do with any fiddling you've done :)
[17:44] <popey> no, nothing wrong at all
[17:44] <popey> its great, very descriptive
[17:44] <popey> just trying to narrow it down
[17:45] <kaushal> popey: hi again
[17:45] <pr0ph3t> I'll load 10.10 then on live usb ok?
[17:45] <kaushal> sorry got disconnected
[17:50] <popey> pr0ph3t: probably a good idea
[17:50] <popey> pr0ph3t: could try 11.04 too, if broken in both, add that to the bug report
[17:50] <pr0ph3t> !lapsus
[17:50] <popey> bigcalm / gord / Myrtti http://popeydc.dyndns.org/gmaps/
[17:50] <pr0ph3t> it's a utility for asus laptops
[17:51] <dutchie> popey: wow, cool
[17:52] <kaushal> popey: please guide me about overcoming this issue --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/557755/
[17:53]  * cps noms on a beefburger
[17:53] <Myrtti> wicked
[17:54] <popey> kaushal: that looks poorly formatted sql query
[17:54] <kaushal> ok
[17:54] <popey> bit of a mess of carriage returns
[17:55] <kaushal> popey: shall i pastebin the impdp log
[17:57] <popey> no
[17:57] <gord> popey, ahem, already found diamonds :P
[17:58] <pr0ph3t> I would like to run a KDE applet from GNOME, I also need to compile it, is that possible?
[17:58] <pr0ph3t> when I do ./configure it asks me whether I have kde installed correctly
[17:58] <popey> heh
[17:58] <pr0ph3t> because of kde-config
[17:59] <popey> yay gord
[17:59] <popey> gord: is that your little house in the water
[17:59] <pr0ph3t> it's a KDE panel applet
[18:00] <gord> popey, yeah, not really a house, just something nice enough to keep the creepers away, just covers a deeep hole that goes to that diamond level
[18:01] <popey> :D
[18:07] <gord> i guess i also found gold and that new blue stuff too...
[18:07] <gord> i think i already found everything o_O
[18:07] <dutchie> lapis lazuli
[18:14] <Twinkletoes> The resolvconf package doesn't populate /etc/resolv.conf upon reboot, but only when manually restarting networking.  man resolv.conf gives a similar example to my setup (iface eth0 inet static) so I'm assuming I'm doing things right.  Why doesn't resolvconf work at reboot?
[18:50] <Gringo> Hi all need some help cant get no sound at all, someone recommended me this site but no luck http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661716
[18:54] <Gringo> guys
[18:57] <luklew> hi everybody
[18:57] <luklew> i'm searching channel where i can learn english :D
[18:58] <luklew> any suggestions?
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> ##english?
[18:58] <luklew> hmm
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> (I don't know if it existd)
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> (exists)
[18:58] <luklew> exists
[18:58] <luklew> thanks Martin :)
[18:59] <luklew> but i prefer some IT channel
[19:01] <luklew> ok, i'm going to learn :D
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> you seem to understand English already ;)
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> at least a little
[19:03] <Gringo> #ubuntu
[19:05] <bigcalm> popey: cool map
[19:30] <AlanBell> anyone got their haggis ready for tomorrow?
[19:30] <bigcalm> o/
[19:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> Euuuggghhhh!
[19:31] <bigcalm> Super supper
[19:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> I'm OK with the Whiskey but not the stuffed sheep's stomach bit.
[19:31]  * bigcalm disappears for a bit
[19:31] <mgdm> Mine's still in Tesco :P
[19:32] <mgdm> but it shall be acquired
[19:33] <dutchie> the college bar quiz tomorrow night has a bottle of whisky as a prize
[19:34]  * hamitron pokes Azelphur
[19:35] <hamitron> :)
[19:38] <DJones> mmmmmhh  Haggis
[19:38] <hamitron> today is a good day
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> hamitron: Ice Cube - Today Was a Good Day?
[19:39] <hamitron> no, just a good day ;)
[19:39] <hamitron> yesterday I was all poo poo nvidi
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> hamitron: ""Today I didn't even have to use my A.K.
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> I gotta say it was a good day
[19:39] <hamitron> nvidia
[19:39] <daubers> AlanBell: I'm working to $silly o'clock tomorrow night :(
[19:40] <hamitron> today I can tollerate them
[19:43]  * Azelphur pokes hamitron
[19:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> Can't really see much benefit of this. http://www.networkworld.com/community/fedora-15-changes-network-device-naming
[19:46] <hamitron> Azelphur: it sorted now?
[19:46] <hamitron> last time I ask if it is
[19:46] <hamitron> :)
[19:47] <Azelphur> yup no more freezes
[19:47] <Azelphur> :D
[19:47] <ali1234> TheOpenSourcerer: consistent network device naming sounds good
[19:47] <Azelphur> so it was either X updates or busted fan
[19:47] <ali1234> ubuntu already implements it through a hack
[19:47] <ali1234> but when it goes wrong it's hard to fix (you have to edit an obscure file)
[19:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> ali1234: But my devices are always consistently names anyway... ethX
[19:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> what was eth0 is eth0 tomorrow.
[19:48] <ali1234> TheOpenSourcerer: yes and if you replace a network card your networking breaks
[19:48] <ali1234> and to fix it you have to edit /etc/udev.7/70-persistent-network.conf
[19:48]  * hamitron is starting to want intel graphics :( someone slap me for it plz
[19:49] <hamitron> less drivers hassles... and could try wayland :)
[19:50] <ali1234> this sucks. hopefully fedora changes will force the UI designers to make something actually useful for once.
[19:57] <gord> hamitron, intel drivers aren't perfect by a long shot
[19:58] <hamitron> no, but grass is always greener... I have nvidia ;)
[20:14] <popey> bigcalm: shame it takes so long to generate!
[20:15] <popey> bigcalm: it can be run on multiple cores, which is neat
[20:16] <bigcalm> popey: need moar power!
[20:16]  * popey jumps on mc
[20:22] <hamitron> what is the aim of minecraft? ;/
[20:22] <hamitron> website makes it sound like "second life"
[20:23] <popey> its more like lego
[20:23] <dogmatic69> hamitron: the main aim is to waste months of you life :D
[20:23] <ali1234> minecraft is way better than second life
[20:23] <ali1234> and i never even played it and i know that
[20:23] <hamitron> it does look better, yeh
[20:23] <hamitron> :)
[20:24] <hamitron> but what is the aim? ;/
[20:24] <popey> uses more resources :)
[20:24] <dogmatic69> survive
[20:24] <dogmatic69> dont get eaten by zombies
[20:24] <dogmatic69> collect cool stuff
[20:24] <hamitron> and it is a persistent server?
[20:25] <brobostigon> maybe make cool stuff aswell?
[20:25] <dogmatic69> ?
[20:25] <ali1234> clearly the aim of minecraft is to explore and learn about the world
[20:25] <popey> its probably the best ~10 I have ever spent on software
[20:25] <hamitron> if you log out, you can log back in and continue were you left off in multiplayer?
[20:25] <dutchie> yeah
[20:26] <dutchie> as long as no-one else has destroyed it :)
[20:26] <hamitron> is the aim to destroy another?
[20:27] <popey> you can
[20:27] <ali1234> sure, if you want
[20:27] <popey> some people have tournaments
[20:27] <hamitron> how often does it change night to day and back?
[20:27] <dogmatic69> hamitron: time continues on the server
[20:27] <popey> minutes
[20:27] <popey> 20 mins or so day
[20:28] <dogmatic69> 20 min for 24h
[20:28] <ali1234> minecraft is a sandbox game, second life is a distributed (and extremely slow and hard to use, and you have to pay *per triangle*) 3d editor
[20:29] <hamitron> so monsters come out at night... are they still there when day comes?
[20:29] <ali1234> no
[20:29] <popey> some
[20:29] <dogmatic69> some
[20:29] <hamitron> k :)
[20:29] <ali1234> oh rly?
[20:29] <popey> yeah, creepers dont die in sun
[20:29] <hamitron> I'm almost convinced :/
[20:29] <dogmatic69> spiders and creepers
[20:29] <popey> spiders dont
[20:29] <hamitron> can you kill them?
[20:29] <hamitron> :D
[20:30] <dogmatic69> and spiders can now climb walls :/
[20:30] <dogmatic69> you can punch, hit with tools, sward and tnt
[20:30] <dogmatic69> also build cannons with tnt
[20:31] <daubers> and you can make yourself a bow and arrow
[20:31] <hamitron> these blow up lego blocks?
[20:31] <dogmatic69> ye and the bow :)
[20:31] <popey> ya
[20:32] <popey> and snowballs
[20:32] <dogmatic69> "lego" blocks
[20:32] <popey> you can make armour
[20:32] <popey> out of the hide of cows you kill
[20:32] <dogmatic69> build sky scrapers or underground lairs
[20:32] <hamitron> are there any comunities with long term servers that never reset then?
[20:32] <dogmatic69> bacon... mmmm
[20:32] <popey> yes
[20:32] <popey> lots
[20:32] <dogmatic69> hamitron: you want to reset now and then
[20:33] <dogmatic69> eg: new version added new locks, can find them in explored places
[20:33] <hamitron> how often is that?
[20:34] <popey> when the author adds a new item, it sometimes only appears in newly generated "chunks" of the world
[20:34] <popey> a chunk is a 64x64x128 deep (iirc) block of the world
[20:35] <dogmatic69> sounds about right
[20:35] <popey> so if you update the server and there's new items, nobody will see them until they explore new parts of the map
[20:35] <popey> hamitron: you've seen the map on my box?
[20:35] <ali1234> what payment methods do they take?
[20:35] <popey> paypal iirc
[20:35] <hamitron> popey: no :/
[20:35] <dogmatic69> and if its well explored that could take 1h to get to
[20:35] <popey> credit card if you use that
[20:35] <ali1234> i cancelled my paypal account
[20:35] <popey> ali1234: you can use cc without a pp account
[20:35] <ali1234> visa?
[20:35] <hamitron> dogmatic69: but you can build another hut to move to a different part?
[20:35] <popey> hamitron: http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current_day.png
[20:36] <dogmatic69> paypal just handles the payment, i dont have an account either
[20:36] <ali1234> ok, cool
[20:36] <popey> yeah ali1234
[20:36] <dogmatic69> ali1234: also the price is going up with each new version
[20:36] <hamitron> oh, so the world is a limited size?
[20:36] <popey> yes
[20:36] <popey> 8 times the surface of the earth
[20:36] <dogmatic69> its 15 euro atm, will be 25 when its done
[20:37] <hamitron> only 8? ;/
[20:37] <popey> heh
[20:37] <dogmatic69> 1 block == 1m3
[20:37] <ali1234> "ali1234" is taken FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[20:37] <popey> lol
[20:37] <popey> you can literally walk for hours
[20:37] <popey> if you survive :)
[20:38] <gord> you could prolly set a minecraft game on peaceful, tape down w and spacebar and walk for years
[20:38] <hamitron> hamitron is taken :/
[20:38] <hamitron> So far 0 people have registered
[20:38] <gord> you would run out of hard-drive space long before the game runs out of precision ;)
[20:38] <dogmatic69> there is a youtube video like that, cart track runs in ff for 10min+
[20:39] <hamitron> is registration maybe broken?
[20:39] <ali1234> i just registered
[20:39] <popey> :)
[20:39] <hamitron> bah
[20:40] <hamitron> can't stand having different login names :/
[20:40] <popey> he's recently moved to amazon i think
[20:40] <popey> because his servers get a royal pounding
[20:40]  * MartijnVdS is happy
[20:41] <MartijnVdS> u1ms now has Warner music as well as EMI in the EU store
[20:41] <MartijnVdS> still no Sony
[20:41] <MartijnVdS> but it's a lot better than it was
[20:41] <popey> sony :(
[20:41] <dogmatic69> hamitron: if dogmatic69 is not available, i dont use that site :D
[20:42] <hamitron> it is how I feel :/
[20:42] <MartijnVdS> popey: yeah meh.. but it actually contains popular music now, instead of mostly indie stuff
[20:43] <ali1234> purchased :]
[20:44] <ali1234> i'm going to waste so much time playing this game
[20:45] <jonsaint> need help for a friend........my friend has just installed ubuntu 10.10 server edition, is there a front end gooey that works??
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: for what?
[20:45] <jonsaint> for ubuntu server 10.10 edition#
[20:45] <MonsterKiller> does one have to restart to apply changes to host.deny?
[20:46] <MartijnVdS> MonsterKiller: no
[20:46] <MonsterKiller> okay :) thanks
[20:46] <hamitron> I may wait till sales of the final version drop and it is open sourced ;)
[20:46]  * hamitron is a patient guy
[20:46] <ali1234> jonsaint: why did he install server?
[20:46] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: Ubuntu Server can be lots of kinds of server
[20:47] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: some of those have configuration frontends, others only have config files to edit
[20:47] <DJones> jonsaint: A gui as in Gnome/KDE/XFCE etc?
[20:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> jonsaint: If you mean like the Gnome Desktop, just type "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment"
[20:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> Then wait a while ;-)
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> a LOOONG while :P
[20:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> Depends on how fast your Internet access is
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: and your disk
[20:48] <jonsaint> its ok, hes managed to do it. cheers all. once again you have all been superb.
[20:49] <TheOpenSourcerer> Right then. Horizon time. Laterz
[20:51] <ali1234> anybody got a link to a grub2 usb image i can just dd?
[20:53] <popey> hamitron: i knew you wouldnt :)
[20:57] <daubers> I love it when hard data backs up your hypothesis \o/
[20:57] <hamitron> popey: you mean to say I look like a tight git? ;/
[20:58] <hamitron> need to think of a username anyway
[20:58] <hamitron> :/
[21:01] <hamitron> is the username showed in games popey?
[21:01] <hamitron> or is the in game name seperate
[21:02] <popey> yes
[21:02] <ali1234> lol which?
[21:03] <hamitron> :)
[21:03] <hamitron> love "yes" answers \o/ ;)
[21:04] <MartijnVdS> use "xor" next time :)
[21:04] <hamitron> haha
[21:04] <popey> yes to usernames shown in game
[21:04] <hamitron> :/
[21:04] <hamitron> better not pick something dirty then
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> hamitron: "Hammy Tron"
[21:06] <ali1234> to answer my previous question: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/
[21:10] <jonsaint> hi al (again) my friend wants to know how he can check whos connected to his box?
[21:11] <hamitron> command "w"
[21:12] <hamitron> or is that shell only?
[21:12] <jonsaint> he said hes currently in terminal and he wants to know whos connected to him
[21:13] <mgdm> 'who'
[21:13] <mgdm> or w, even
[21:13] <MartijnVdS> alias doctor=who
[21:13] <jonsaint> a friend of mine, hes got some 'virtual box' or something with ubuntu 10.10 server on there
[21:14] <ali1234> try 'netstat -tn'
[21:15] <jonsaint> thanks. il give him a call and get him to try it
[21:16] <hamitron> hmmm
[21:16] <ali1234> hmmmmmmm indeed
[21:16] <hamitron> still can't get a damn name to be accepted
[21:16] <hamitron> minecraft :(
[21:16] <hamitron> I am trying ;/
[21:16] <hamitron> must be loads of users?
[21:17] <ali1234> got my second choice (which i normally use when playing games anyway)
[21:18] <hamitron> all mine are taken
[21:18] <hamitron> :/
[21:21] <Myrtti> MINECRAAFFFTTTT
[21:22] <ali1234> does 'update-grub' also reinstall grub to the mbr?
[21:22] <ali1234> or does it just update the menus?
[21:24] <dutchie> uneducated guess based on install-grub being a separate thing: no
[21:29] <ali1234> dutchie: there is no install-grub, there is grub-install but that is part of grub package, not ubuntu scripts
[21:29] <dutchie> i did say "uneducated"
[21:33] <ali1234> awesome i can play minecraft now
[21:34] <ali1234> is the browser version known to not work properly on ubuntu?
[21:34] <ali1234> i just get a grey box
[21:34] <ali1234> like when the plugin crashes
[21:37] <popey> i suspect so
[21:37] <popey> i just grab the jar
[21:37] <popey> and run it with lots of memory
[21:37] <popey> java -jar -Xmx2048 -Xms2048 minecraft.jar
[21:39] <MartijnVdS> -oracle-bill-to=alan@popey.com
[21:40] <MartijnVdS> that's the new Java 7 feature, isn't it?
[21:41] <brobostigon> minecraft.net seems dead.i was just going to have a look.
[21:42] <ali1234> 2048M? i need to buy more memory
[21:42] <czajkowski> evening chaparoos
[21:42] <popey> brobostigon: www.minecraft.net
[21:42] <popey> ali1234: yeah
[21:43] <popey> 1GB might be enough
[21:43] <popey> depends how big the map is
[21:43] <ali1234> i'll still need to buy more memory
[21:43] <brobostigon> popey: yep, chromium shows me a dead page.
[21:43] <popey> :)
[21:43] <ali1234> i hit swap all the time as it is
[21:43] <ali1234> 4GB is no longer enough to run ubuntu
[21:43] <popey> fine here brobostigon
[21:43] <brobostigon> hmm.
[21:43] <popey> brobostigon: you actually using www.minecraft.net and not minecraft.net
[21:44] <popey> there was an issue with the latter
[21:44] <brobostigon> let me check and try again.
[21:44] <brobostigon> weird.
[21:52]  * hamitron can't get the www one to work either
[21:57]  * popey shrugs
[21:57] <popey> its often busy
[21:57] <popey> usually a refresh fixes it
[21:58] <hamitron> I got a name \o/
[21:58]  * hamitron does a backflip
[21:58] <hamitron> Hamish_Itsonu was taken, but Ric_Hard wasn't
[21:59] <hamitron> weird ;/
[22:01] <hamitron> popey: is your server up 24/7?
[22:02] <hamitron> or do ppl here play in a common place?
[22:03] <hamitron> I got it :)
[22:04] <popey> hamitron: yes
[22:05] <popey> generally speaking its up
[22:07] <hamitron> popey: mind if I join? (need ip)
[22:12] <popey> please do
[22:12] <popey> popeydc.dyndns.org
[22:13]  * dutchie needs to find out why minecraft pushes loadavg up to >7
[22:14] <MartijnVdS> because it threads a lot, as Java programs do
[22:18] <dutchie> that shouldn't cause performance to die terribly though, should it?
[22:19] <MartijnVdS> if they're all using a scarce resource (same bit of memory, the disk or CPU power)
[22:22] <dogmatic69> dutchie: because its java
[22:22] <dutchie> well i did think that a bit :)
[22:23] <dogmatic69> dutchie: guess when i ran minecraft on my server http://tinyurl.com/67ajqcx
[22:23] <dutchie> heh
[22:23] <dogmatic69> thats a 256mb slice btw
[22:34]  * Neoti had a nice game of Magic: The gathering now off to bed.... night all 
[22:34] <popey> poor laptop is swapping as it generates the map
[22:34] <popey> gonna make it so it only generates the map once a day :)
[22:55] <gord> popey, have a different computer do it? not got a revo laying about? ;)
[22:56] <ali1234> how big is the map data directory?
[22:57] <hamitron> am I safe at the top of the tunnel of water?
[22:58] <gord> you are never safe
[22:58] <hamitron> I took 3 candles from you tunnels of doom btw ;/
[22:59] <hamitron> your*
[22:59] <hamitron> didn't know wtf I was doing
[23:04] <popey> ali1234: 707MB here
[23:08] <utrinqueparatus> Evening all
[23:09] <bigcalm> Since google have changed my work apps account into a gmail account, I can't have work and personal email open in the same browser at the same time
[23:09] <bigcalm> Damn you Google!
[23:10] <shauno> have you tried http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/access-two-gmail-accounts-at-once-in.html ?
[23:10] <bigcalm> No
[23:10] <moreati> bigcalm: google has limited multi-sign-in support, or use two browsers
[23:11] <bigcalm> shauno: ta for the link
[23:11] <utrinqueparatus> I think someone should make a better cbt detailing scripting languages. linuxcbt scripting edition is pants!!!
[23:12] <hamitron> it broke?
[23:13] <hamitron> black screen and music :/
[23:14] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Ralph Janke] Why is Ubuntu Using Google Maps and not OpenStreetMaps? - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/why-ubuntu-using-google-maps-and-not-openstreetmaps
[23:14] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Dominic Watkins] on Mac hints and tips and mini Ubuntu servers - http://rowla.dyndns.org/blog/2011/01/24/mac-os-x-hints-and-tips/
[23:17] <czajkowski> sigh
[23:22] <hamitron> indeed
[23:27] <Azelphur> hamitron: hmm, I'm starting to get jumps again
[23:27] <Azelphur> CPU at 55C, GPU at 69C
[23:31] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well.
[23:31] <popey> nn
[23:31] <brobostigon> nos da popey, sleep well.
[23:48] <dutchie> popey: going to update the get_iplayer link in http://popey.com/blog/2010/01/14/ubuntu-boxee-and-get_iplayer-on-the-acer-aspire-revo/ to point at http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
[23:48] <dutchie> ?
[23:49] <dutchie> or alternatively note that it's in the repos nowadays
[23:50] <popey> the one in the repo is old
[23:50] <popey> iirc
[23:54] <cps> hello
[23:54] <popey> hi
[23:54] <cps> looks like another all-nighter for me then -.-
[23:55] <hamitron> popey: what was server again?
[23:55] <hamitron> (everything crashed and I didn't save it ;)
[23:57] <hamitron> nvm
[23:57] <popey> :)
[23:57]  * cps shuffles his virgin trains-branded cards
[23:58] <hamitron> doesn't work with synergy+ either
[23:58] <hamitron> :/
[23:58] <cps> :\