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jdeslipWhy aren't all weekends long? ;)06:06
* pleia2 could use a long weekend06:10
pleia2on call went swimmingly until tonight when it...didn't06:10
pleia2now I'm all tired and need a weekend :)06:10
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Guest30477ok heres a wierd one. for the last couple of weeks i sign in like normal it lets me in here on this chat as jamie. today i sign in and im supposed to be guest 30477 wth???15:36
jamie_wow that was wierd i sign out and then sign back in and now im me again.... wierd15:38
MarkDudeVideo from my talk at LUGOD >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6kHE-S1x017:56
MarkDudeLinux is a cult, but a good cult17:56
iheartubuntuIs it hard to move around on BART with the tux costume?18:06
iheartubuntuWhat if you need to use a toilet?18:06
iheartubuntuHas the penguin ever been pick-pocketed?18:06
* MarkDude could both run, and do Kung Fu in the suit18:07
iheartubuntuDo you get free things at stores or restaurants for wearing the costume?18:07
MarkDudeNot yet18:07
iheartubuntuDoes the suit make you popular with the ladies :) ?18:07
MarkDudeWell, silence is the better part of Valor18:07
MarkDudeYou can see my online album for that answer18:08
pleia2iheartubuntu: sometimes! http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/112010/mark_melissa_lyz_halloween.jpg18:08
MarkDudeDoes not hurt at all, let's put it that way ;)18:08
MarkDudeAMAZINGLY18:09
iheartubuntuApparently not! One penguin to 3 ladies is a pretty good ratio. Almost like Russia.18:09
MarkDudelol18:10
kdubin america, penguins ride the subway18:11
* MarkDude does not judge, but one of those folks was most likely a dude18:11
kdubin soviet russia, subways ride the penguins18:11
MarkDudelol18:11
kdubnot my best, but i couldnt pass up the russia reference18:12
MarkDudehttp://picasaweb.google.com/tuxwingsgroup/Halloween#553724195552890657818:13
MarkDudeI think I should remove the GK watermark from the Halloween pics18:13
MarkDudepleia2, has lived in cali for a enough time that she was not as shocked at the nightclub scene there18:14
* iheartubuntu checks internet for penguin costumes18:14
MarkDude$32 shipped18:14
iheartubuntudoes thee, uhhhhh, size of the theee, uuuuhhh, flippers make a difference?18:15
iheartubuntuor beak?18:15
* MarkDude is sending one to FUDcon for the end of week. Im sure I will be known as that kooky Ubuntu guy with the suit18:15
MarkDudeWell the beak is more interesting than I originally thought :D18:16
iheartubuntuthats what i was thinking18:16
MarkDudeYou can still put your hand out thru the flipper18:16
MarkDude*Universal Truth*;18:17
MarkDudeAnything you can do with a hand, is infinitely funnier with a flipper18:17
MarkDudeIf you dont believe anything else I say, believe that18:17
kdubMarkDude, lets be fair, the /northern/ california nightclub scene :)18:20
kdubwe've got more of a kesha-wannabe vibe down here :D18:21
MarkDudeand plastic surgery/enhancements also :D18:21
MarkDudeYou have no shortage of dudes that dress like chicks tho18:22
* MarkDude was born and grew up in San Diego 18:22
pleia2kesha-wannabe vibe is less of a culture shock than... the castro on halloween18:23
pleia2(I'd think anyway)18:24
kdubMarkDude: i live in PacificBeach, all those problems are in 'epidemic' status in my neighborhood :P18:24
kdubpleia2: probably true18:24
* MarkDude grew up in PB18:26
MarkDudeApparently Cher is not the most popular outfit anymore- it is Lady Gaga18:26
pleia2california is a whole different world from where I grew up18:26
MarkDudeWell Philly has created new and better swear words- they made it an artform18:27
pleia2I grew up in Maine :)18:27
pleia2Philly was just a stop along the way18:28
MarkDudeYes, I forgot18:28
pleia2the reluctant gypsy that I am18:28
iheartubuntui heard maine is not very business friendly. lotso f taxes n stuff18:28
MarkDudewell it is still a Masters degree in cursing from what i understand18:28
pleia2iheartubuntu: yeah, it's a tourist state, florida is similar18:28
iheartubuntui miss VT and NH18:28
MarkDudeGrandmas are even willing to teach the proper way to drop F-bombs18:29
MarkDudeiheartubuntu, Jan 15th- I was wondering if I should have worn shorts18:29
pleia2iheartubuntu: I love Maine, but career prospects are slim outside of the tourist industry, so I left18:29
iheartubuntui would think maine is similar18:29
MarkDudeIt costs so much to live here for a reason18:29
MarkDudeCalifornia's crappy cities are often better than other states great cities18:30
MarkDudeSo says the 3rd generation Californian :D18:30
iheartubuntuheres a computer related Q... can computers and other electronics that are turned OFF survive an EMP?18:30
MarkDudeDont most things that produce EMP leave a residual?18:32
MarkDudeTubes can operate after nuclear bomb18:33
MarkDudeSo later this Summer, *penguin party* hit SF either wear a penguin suit- or a white shirt and black shirt unbuttoned18:34
kdubiheartubuntu: probably not. emp's induce voltages accross the circuitry regardless of whether its on or off18:35
iheartubuntuyah i think tubers would be fine... but more complex circuits like computers im curious if they would still work. im gonna get an old western electric 500 series dial phone just in case18:35
MarkDudeAnything that was made before the 555 circuit might be fine18:36
MarkDudeMany cars wont run, since they have computers also, even the *dumb* ones have chips18:37
iheartubuntui dont recall my 1974 vw bus having any electronics18:37
iheartubuntui miss that too :)18:38
akkNearly anything new enough to have fuel injection (except a few of the early Bosch k-jetronic) has a computer.18:38
* kdub thinks the pre-computing timing mechanisms for engines are pretty cool18:39
MarkDudeI agree - the adjustments that are made are crazy18:41
akkEngines run a lot more efficiently and cleanly with the computer stuff, though.18:42
* MarkDude was a mechanic for a bit, I loved the old trucks and cars- you could pretty much climb into the engine compartment18:42
MarkDudeNot after nuclear fallout18:42
MarkDudeMad Max situation, you need the older stuff18:42
akkSure.18:43
MarkDudeAnd guns strapped to your car :D18:43
akkAnd a source of gasoline, oil, machine tools to make parts, ...18:43
MarkDudeAnd of course, your endless quest for gasoline18:43
* akk can just see carefully filing down that new replacement carburator jet by hand ...18:44
* MarkDude just imagined himself in that scenario--- wearing the suit of course18:44
MarkDudeGiving the talk humoungous or whatever that dudes name is giving the speech before they attack18:44
MarkDudeYes I need help :)18:45
akkA rich fantasy life makes life fun. :)18:45
MarkDudeTrue.18:49
* MarkDude is not big fan of boring18:49
* kdub installs faraday cage around car computer18:52
MarkDudeWith nuclear fallout- a rate that wont maybe kill you - can kill chips with background radiation18:56
MarkDudeRussian had a bomber that was made with tubes18:57
iheartubuntuI bet the stereo on that bomber was awesome :)19:02
akklol19:02
pleia2https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/70526519:08
pleia2fix committed, now we just wait for release \o/19:08
akkYay!19:10
akkThat was fast.19:11
pleia2yeah, it's one of the projects I don't feel guilty about telling people to report a bug for since I know it won't get ignored19:25
pleia2(and you won't need to wait 6 months for the fix to be released, in the next version of the OS)19:26
kdubi dont know if bugs are actively ignored in most projects, they're just not the most productive thing to do :)19:44
kduberr, not the most /fun/ and productive19:45
akkYou can argue about why they're ignored but it doesn't change the fact that they're ignored in many projects.19:46
iheartubuntuprays my ubuntuone paid acct will work with 11.0419:47
kdubakk: true, never hurts to understand the problem in an attempt to improve the turnaround time19:49
kdubsounds like a good blog article for me to write about :D19:50
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jamie_hello everyone20:14
pleia2g'day jamie_20:15
jamie_hi pleia2 how is your day?20:15
pleia2jamie_: it's a monday, but not as bad as some so far :) you?20:15
jamie_how much do you want to hear? :)20:16
pleia2hehe20:17
jamie_i got the regular case of the monday crap20:18
MarkDudeOh speaking of cults, here are some pictures from the loud music show on Sat http://picasaweb.google.com/tuxwingsgroup/SeveredFifthJan222011#20:18
pleia2jamie_: that's no fun20:18
jamie_spent most of the day on tis project of trying to put ubuntu on a zipit which was a total bust20:18
pleia2I think my monday is less monday today because I was on call this weekend (and actually had to do some work)20:19
jamie_oh and my wife told me last night she wants  a divorce20:19
pleia2jamie_: oh no! I'm sorry20:19
MarkDudeSorry to hear that20:20
jamie_its ok i guess i kinda saw it coming but heck of a way to start the week20:21
* pleia2 just had her 2 year divorciversary20:21
mpontillo=( http://www.amazon.com/dp/0609805797 this is a good book if you think it's recoverable20:29
jamie_anyone else try doing that zipit thing?20:34
jamie_pleia2,  congratulations i guess20:34
jamie_or is it condolences how does that work?20:35
pleia2a bit of both20:35
pleia2it was the most painful experience of my life20:35
jamie_this is my second marriage. ending the first one sucked but im so uch more in to this girl than i was the first.20:36
jamie_and i have a 10 month old son with her as well20:36
pleia2wow, that must be difficult20:37
jamie_its getting there20:40
jamie_you have any kids pleia2?20:40
pleia2jamie_: fortunately not20:40
pleia2I hope to eventually though :)20:40
jamie_i hope you do some day they can really be a blessing in your life20:41
MarkDudehttp://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/2011/01/24/you-can-be-a-geek-and-still-rock/21:49
MarkDudeJonos show.21:49
iheartubuntuI noticed all my files appeared missing on my 8GB USB drive while browsing in Nautilus, but I can see everything if I use Dolphin. Anyone know how to fix this in Nautilus? I hope my drive isnt "going23:18
iheartubuntu'"going"23:19
* kdub raid-1's all my usb drives (nrly) :)23:23
pleia2akk: still dislike grub2?23:24
pleia2debian squeeze defaults to it, which means I officially have to get over my reservations and suck it up23:24
akkpleia2: Yes -- afaik they haven't fixed any of the problems.23:24
pleia2siigh23:25
akkI haven't actually tried it in a while -- it messes up too much stuff to try it casually just to see if they fixed things and nobody mentioned it.23:25
akkWhy do you have to use it?23:25
pleia2I didn't even realize squeeze defaulted to it until today, I went to look at my menu.list in a new install and got a surprise23:25
akkOh, you have to use it because it installed it without asking?23:26
pleia2at work we like to keep in sync with debian policy as much as possible when it comes to defaults, tends to make upgrade paths and general maintenance easier23:26
akkIt's not that big a deal for machines that only have one system installed.23:27
pleia2we have at least one server that have been running debian since potato, upgraded from release to release23:27
akkIt's really only a horror if you're trying to maintain several different root partitions/systems on the same machine.23:27
akkWell, or if you have several kernels -- it does make the boot menu sort of awful even with only one root partition.23:28
pleia2well, no worries about that here, one kernel, one root partition23:28
pleia2using software raid and LVM, but that's a whole different layer23:28
pleia2I was a bit worried about our systems that still run lilo (a lot of them!) but someone revived lilo for squeeze23:29
DarkwingDuckYay, tomorrow  finally have a computer again23:29
pleia2yay :) what happened to the old one?23:30
DarkwingDuckMy lappy broke23:31
pleia2oh right, and you're getting a new one23:31
DarkwingDuckBut, I found somone who had an extra laptop and donated it.23:31
pleia2all coming back to me now23:31
DarkwingDuck:D23:31
DarkwingDuckI almost turned it dowm23:31
DarkwingDuck*down23:32
* pleia2 finds http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6991/2/ and now all she wants to do is put fishies on her grub23:32
DarkwingDuckLOL23:33
DarkwingDuckBut, I have a good production machine for SCALE23:33
akkpleia2: Once you get used to a graphical grub screen, the plain one is awfully boring.23:34
kdubmy goal for scale is to have a decent wayland setup running for everyone to see23:34
pleia2I had a custom lilo years ago23:34
akkThat's from the Monterey Bay Aquarium, btw.23:34
pleia2http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/screen/leiaLiloPhoto.jpg23:35
DarkwingDuckI'll have KDE, GNome and XFCE on my new system23:35
pleia2(sorry, yeah, I had gentoo and xp installed back then, I grew out of it!)23:35
akkpleia2: haha, nice image23:35
DarkwingDuckLOL23:35
pleia2I still need to get down to the Monterey Bay Aquarium23:35
DarkwingDuckWe need some spindles23:35
akkalso, "leialilo" sounds much better than "leiagrub"23:36
DarkwingDuckon blank CDs23:36
DarkwingDuckon/of23:36
DarkwingDuckthis way we can burn CD if needed23:36
pleia2erichammond is bringing some23:37
pleia2it's on the wiki23:37
pleia2"Bringing 200. Let me know if we might need more."23:38
DarkwingDuckkk23:38
DarkwingDuckI'll get back up to speed tomorrow night23:38
kdubquestion about scale, is it like an exhibit or something?23:39
pleia2it's a conference23:39
DarkwingDuckand Expo23:39
DarkwingDuckthere is a large room with all sorts of booths23:39
DarkwingDuckand there are talks23:39
* kdub should have probably put a talk together, maybe next time :)23:40
pleia2akk is speaking :)23:40
kdubwell, even if i don't have a talk to give, i can still have an interesting bleeding edge build on my laptop and try to show it off :)23:42
kdubakk: what are you speaking about?23:42
akkkdub: Writing GIMP scripts and plug-ins23:43
DarkwingDuckNice Akk23:43
DarkwingDuckI was going to but decided against it.23:43
* kdub uses gimp. if i were approx. 2 smidgens better, i'd feel better about publishing my works23:53
* MarkDude has never used photoshop- GIMP serves my purposes well. I hope to see your session akk23:58
DarkwingDuckMark, you're going to make it again?23:59
MarkDudeDarkwingDuck, I better- I have 2 talks there :D23:59
DarkwingDuck:D23:59
DarkwingDuckWill be good to see you again.23:59

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