[01:04] <orangeninja> chibihogoshino you still here?
[01:04] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:05] <orangeninja> how do you start python in ubuntu? It is not in my applications list but it shows installed.
[01:05] <chibihogoshino> drop to a terminal and type python
[01:05] <orangeninja> ohh duh....ha ha
[01:06] <chibihogoshino> yeah its not gui
[01:07] <orangeninja> how would you save work?
[01:07] <chibihogoshino> i never really used that part of it
[01:07] <chibihogoshino> i just wrote the program in pico and saved it and then ran it on the command line
[01:09] <chibihogoshino> you can use any text editor tho ..
[01:10] <orangeninja> I guess that is what you have to do to save it maybe
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> you just save the file like a regular docuemnt
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> but it has to be basic text and not a doc or word file
[01:13] <orangeninja> what is the newest version?
[01:13] <chibihogoshino> 3
[01:13] <chibihogoshino> but 2.6 is good
[01:13] <chibihogoshino> when you get enter python it has the version at the top
[01:13] <orangeninja> yep, I got 2.6
[01:15] <chibihogoshino> thats what i used
[01:42] <orangeninja> sudo apt-get install idle
[01:42] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:43] <orangeninja> lol,
[01:46] <chibihogoshino> sundays are more idle than most days for some reason
[01:52] <orangeninja> IDLE might help with your python programming unless you just want to do it in cli
[02:17] <vychune> hello?
[02:17] <chibihogoshino> hello vychune
[02:17] <wrst> hey vychune
[02:17] <chibihogoshino> orangeninja: iv tried idle and didnt like it
[02:18] <chibihogoshino> hi wrst
[02:18] <orangeninja> my bad then bro.
[02:18] <vychune> hey yall can yall help me with this
[02:18] <vychune> http://pastebin.com/wvMBHYPB
[02:20] <vychune> guys?
[02:21] <vychune> anyone?
[02:22] <orangeninja> I'm so new I don't even know what that is....lol
[02:23] <vychune> ok im trying to open software center and it wont open thats the output i get
[02:26] <chibihogoshino> thats odd vychune
[02:27] <chibihogoshino> i get the
[02:27] <chibihogoshino> WARNING:root:No styling hints for trinity were found... using Human hints.
[02:27] <chibihogoshino> too tho
[02:28] <vychune> yeah i expected that too but the no file error is what im worried about
[02:28] <chibihogoshino> did you change or update anything ?
[02:28] <vychune> im doing that a lot lately now actually
[02:30] <chibihogoshino> sudo apt-get install software-center
[02:30] <chibihogoshino> did you try that ?
[02:30] <vychune> i just thought to do that
[02:30] <vychune> ill do it when the update finishes
[02:31] <vychune> wonder what happened to wrst
[02:31]  * wrst eyes vychune
[02:31] <vychune> :)
[02:31] <vychune> what?
[02:32] <chibihogoshino> maybe you cant run software-center while a update is running
[02:32] <wrst> vychune: you got that opening software center?
[02:32] <wrst> i have ran software center while updating, even told it to download stuff it will just wait until the lock on apt clears
[02:33] <vychune> @wrst:yes i did sir @chibihogoshino not while an update was running
[02:33] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[02:35] <vychune> update's done running apt get line
[02:36] <vychune> software-center is already the newest version.
[02:36] <vychune> that is the output
[02:37] <wrst> vychune: that's certainly a new one
[02:37] <wrst> to me
[02:38] <vychune> lol
[02:38] <vychune> oh im using peppermint/xubuntu
[02:39] <orangeninja> brb
[02:39] <vychune> ? brb
[02:40] <wrst> hmm vychune
[02:41] <vychune> yeah this is a dozey
[02:41] <wrst> vychune: so you are running the actual peppermint distro?
[02:44] <vychune> kinda sorta
[02:45] <vychune> installed the xbuntu package
[02:46] <wrst> well from my understanding pepermint uses the linux mint software manager
[02:46] <wrst> what do you mean you installed the xubuntu package?
[02:47] <vychune> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <wrst> ok gotcha well i'm not for sure because that's quite the "different" setup :)
[02:48] <vychune> well yeah
[02:49] <wrst> i don't but maybe the two software managers are messing with each other vychune? maybe try uninstalling the one you don't want to use
[02:49] <wrst> but peppermint looks to depart from ubuntu a lot so i'm not really for sure
[02:50] <vychune> brb
[02:50] <vychune> i know what that means now
[02:50] <vychune> so ill brb
[02:51] <vychune> ok im back
[02:51] <vychune> what if i reinstall?
[02:52] <vychune> ????????????
[02:52] <wrst> reinstall what?
[02:53] <vychune> Tell me why i just found Linux Mint Software Manager
[02:53] <wrst> ?
[02:53] <vychune> Ubuntu Software Center
[02:54] <wrst> i don't know i'm thinking the two may not work together so you will need to uninstall the one you don't need, but that's totally a guess
[02:54] <vychune> reinstall that but i guess i can use linux mints
[02:54] <vychune> right
[02:54] <wrst> yeah... or just install ubuntu :P
[02:55] <vychune> i have lucid on my second HD
[02:56] <wrst> solve a lot of those issues i think
[02:56] <vychune> lol
[02:56] <vychune> when natty comes out lol
[02:56] <wrst> i'm testing it right now
[02:56] <vychune> good?
[02:57] <wrst> yes its going pretty good i think
[02:57] <wrst> well vychune gotta go catch you later
[02:57] <vychune> whats a good bookeeping program?
[02:57] <vychune> oh ok me too later
[02:58] <wrst> vychune: gnucash possibly
[02:58] <wrst> nothing that competes with quickbooks though
[02:58] <vychune> oh yeah thanks
[02:58] <vychune> rolls eyes
[02:58] <wrst> that i know of there are some others that might be ok i will try to find them for you later
[02:58] <vychune> ok thanks
[02:58] <vychune> later
[02:58] <wrst> later
[03:15] <orangeninja> anybody still here?
[16:31] <cyberanger> Dan9186[MM]: you around?
[16:31] <Dan9186[MM]> ok i've put on a little weight lately, but you don't have to go pointing it out to everyone
[16:35] <cyberanger> hehe
[16:35] <cyberanger> I've been working on a blog post for what you've been needing
[16:35] <cyberanger> for the ssh server
[16:36] <cyberanger> and should have a link tonight, if things go as planned
[16:37] <cyberanger> catching up on things from the convention I was just at, luckily there wasn't alot, just a few hours
[16:45] <Dan9186[MM]> sounds good
[16:45] <Dan9186[MM]> i like blog posts, they're usually easier to follow
[16:48] <cyberanger> well, usually might not apply here
[16:48] <cyberanger> I'm used to a one on one
[16:48] <cyberanger> thus why I help via irc
[16:48] <cyberanger> not the wiki
[16:49] <cyberanger> but I'm giving it a shot
[16:57] <cyberanger> I'm just the type that tailors help to the issue, blog posts gotta be somewhat generic
[16:57] <cyberanger> by comparison
[18:47]  * chibihogoshino tweets: test
[19:36] <Dan9186[MM]> cyberanger: well give it your all, and hopefully i'll be able to glean something from it :P
[20:56] <Xpistos> Hey yal
[20:56] <Xpistos> Anybody got a windows 7 product key they aren't using?
[20:57] <wrst> cyberanger: ? ^^^^ ;)
[20:57] <Xpistos> My wife has to have it for a VM so she can run windows for work
[20:57] <Xpistos> and she only needs it for office 2007
[20:57] <Xpistos> it is rediculous
[20:58] <Xpistos> all my boxes have xp and vista codes
[20:58] <Xpistos> now wn7
[20:58] <wrst> Xpistos: how about office 2007 and wine?
[20:58] <Xpistos> no good
[20:58] <Xpistos> there are issues
[20:58] <chibihogoshino> cyberanger: you want a unlocked HTC Kaiser ?
[20:58] <Xpistos> in crossover there are issues
[20:59] <Xpistos> this is making em absolutely crazy
[20:59] <Xpistos> I hear her compaining all weekend
[20:59] <wrst> Xpistos: i have used it with just wine, but not a lot
[20:59] <Xpistos> I say I have xp and vista, but noooooooo
[20:59] <Xpistos> they have to have win7
[21:00] <wrst> why win 7 if its just for office 2007? that's crazy
[21:02] <Xpistos> they want win7 and office 2007
[21:02] <Xpistos> office 2007 i have like a volume license for
[21:02] <Xpistos> windows 7 - nada
[21:02] <Xpistos> bubkis
[21:02] <Xpistos> zilch
[21:03] <Xpistos> squatah
[21:03] <Xpistos> oxi
[21:03] <Xpistos> (that is Greek for no)
[21:08] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: ever heard of removewat ?
[21:08] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: that might help you get that VM going
[21:09] <pace_t_zulu> it may be outdated though
[21:09] <Xpistos> removewat?
[21:12] <Xpistos> pisses me off. i got copies of everything except the thing they say she must have to run the stuff I have
[21:12] <Xpistos> retarded
[21:14] <Xpistos> I will check it out
[21:14] <Xpistos> thanks pace_t_zulu
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> google it
[21:15] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: i think it is outdated... but there must be some sort of successor out there
[21:16] <Xpistos> I will find it. I only really need it til the middle of february anyway so she can get started and then I can go buy the stupid license and have software and license together