| ckontros | yo | 17:38 |
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| === `Alessio` is now known as quadrispro | ||
| scott-work | doh, ckontros left already | 18:56 |
| scott-work | hi quadrispro | 18:56 |
| quadrispro | hi scott-work ! | 18:56 |
| quadrispro | falktx, I'm starting to work on ladish | 18:57 |
| falktx | quadrispro: nice! | 18:57 |
| scott-work | ailo, holstein, paultag: i made a blueprint for the kernel check/update : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls/+spec/update-and-add-functionality-in-ubuntustudio-controls | 18:57 |
| falktx | quadrispro: did you check my package or are you starting from scratch | 18:57 |
| falktx | ? | 18:57 |
| scott-work | i based it under ubuntustudio-controls because that seemed to make sense, but it doesn't have to stay there if it is better to go somewhere else | 18:57 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: nice! | 18:58 |
| quadrispro | falktx, huh, do you have a package? i've been starting from the scratch | 18:58 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, yes, hope to upload it to experimental soon | 18:58 |
| falktx | quadrispro: havent I told you? it's on REVU | 18:58 |
| falktx | quadrispro: most of the stuff is ready, maybe the copyright needs update | 18:59 |
| falktx | quadrispro: just make sure you got the latest ladish release ;) | 18:59 |
| quadrispro | I see a final 0.3 release, is it the right one? | 18:59 |
| falktx | quadrispro: yes | 19:00 |
| falktx | quadrispro: the package on REVU is an old release though | 19:00 |
| falktx | but it will work with final 0.3 | 19:00 |
| quadrispro | ok | 19:01 |
| holstein | scott-work: im looking at the wishlist | 19:02 |
| holstein | about the codecs | 19:02 |
| holstein | is that something that studio needs to answer? | 19:02 |
| holstein | ive seen that before in #ubuntustudio | 19:02 |
| falktx | quadrispro: btw, ladish depends on laditools | 19:02 |
| scott-work | holstein: i'm not sure what you are asking | 19:02 |
| holstein | "i couldnt play mp3's in ubuntu, so i installed ubuntustudio" | 19:03 |
| quadrispro | falktx, you call it, what is laditools? | 19:03 |
| falktx | quadrispro: ladish tools... hm.. | 19:03 |
| holstein | do we need to provide more than vanilla ubuntu in that regard | 19:03 |
| falktx | quadrispro: you'll have to package it too. but please use the version in ladish tarball | 19:03 |
| holstein | i like the way the new installer for vanilla buntu prompts for mp3 codec | 19:04 |
| scott-work | holstein: i think during the new installs you have the option to add "third party applications" | 19:04 |
| scott-work | heh | 19:04 |
| holstein | we wont get that though right? | 19:04 |
| quadrispro | falktx, ok, I've reach'd that :) ah ok, so can I build the laditools binary from the ladish tarball? | 19:04 |
| holstein | with the alternate installer? | 19:04 |
| * quadrispro going to have dinner | 19:04 | |
| falktx | quadrispro: yes, that will work fine | 19:04 |
| scott-work | oh, i think i see what you are asking | 19:04 |
| holstein | if/when we move to a live CD and installer | 19:04 |
| holstein | that would be addressed | 19:04 |
| holstein | as a user, i usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras | 19:05 |
| scott-work | holstein: to be honest, i don't think the best vector is to have this run or ask anything during the installation | 19:05 |
| holstein | but i think that is a mis-conception about ubuntustduio | 19:05 |
| paultag | scott-work: great, thanks :) | 19:05 |
| holstein | what is it for? | 19:05 |
| scott-work | holstein: i've talked to ailo about it, i think the best thing is to have a script run at a consitent event (say after login) to check the kernel and do the rest | 19:06 |
| holstein | if i have a large mp3 collection, and i cant play them in ubuntu | 19:06 |
| holstein | maybe i need ubuntustdudio | 19:06 |
| holstein | and that is not the case | 19:06 |
| paultag | scott-work: is someone from kernel on it? ( since it's so easy now? ) | 19:06 |
| holstein | and i dont think it should be | 19:06 |
| holstein | BUT thats easy enough to address | 19:06 |
| ailo | I still think the best would be to include a 3rd party option during installation, if possible | 19:06 |
| ailo | Like Ubuntu does with mp3 | 19:06 |
| scott-work | paultag: not directly, but we are considering all of the kernels we would isntall to be from PPA | 19:07 |
| paultag | scott-work: OK | 19:07 |
| ailo | scott-work: So noone is working on the -controls as such? | 19:07 |
| scott-work | ailo: i agree that it would be nice to isntall 3rd party stuff during installation but i'm not sure it's possible with alternate install currently | 19:07 |
| quadrispro | falktx, mmh... 0.3 release tarball seems not to have laditools | 19:07 |
| scott-work | ailo: that is correct, no one is working on -controls currently | 19:07 |
| holstein | the alternate install needs to be ditched | 19:08 |
| falktx | quadrispro: use the "complete/full" tarball | 19:08 |
| falktx | quadrispro: there are 2 | 19:08 |
| scott-work | holstein: it's a decision based on available know-how and manpower | 19:08 |
| holstein | that would address the mp3 playback issue | 19:08 |
| quadrispro | falktx, is there any laditools tarball ready? | 19:08 |
| holstein | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/695892 | 19:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 695892 in Ubuntu Studio "no live CD for ubuntustudio" [Wishlist,New] | 19:08 |
| falktx | quadrispro: yes, but old | 19:08 |
| holstein | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774 | 19:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 697774 in Ubuntu Studio "cant install ubuntustudio from USB stick" [Undecided,New] | 19:09 |
| ailo | scottL: If we use -controls with my script, it would make sence to turn it all into python script. I've been learning about this Pythin gui stuff lately | 19:09 |
| falktx | quadrispro: the one in ladish is known to work, so it's better to use it | 19:09 |
| holstein | scott-work: what do we need? | 19:09 |
| holstein | how can i make that happen? | 19:09 |
| holstein | thats something i would like to see before 12.04 | 19:09 |
| quadrispro | falktx, so.. upstream's website, project summary pages... | 19:11 |
| quadrispro | falktx, where I can find more information? | 19:11 |
| falktx | quadrispro: about laditools ? | 19:11 |
| ailo | holstein: Did you decide on a meeting? | 19:11 |
| quadrispro | yes | 19:11 |
| falktx | quadrispro: http://marcochapeau.org/software/laditools | 19:12 |
| quadrispro | falktx, I see a tarball, is it obsolete? | 19:12 |
| falktx | quadrispro: you can also check #ladi and talk to nedko (he's the author of ladish) | 19:12 |
| falktx | quadrispro: it's pre-compiled! | 19:12 |
| holstein | ailo: not yet | 19:13 |
| quadrispro | oh no, that's not good | 19:13 |
| quadrispro | falktx, I don't have time now, could you please ask nedko to publish a separate tarball? | 19:14 |
| scott-work | holstein: i'm not really sure what is involved in making a live-cd, the best thing i can think of is to start bugging other flavours, xubuntu perhaps, and find someone who knows what is involved | 19:14 |
| quadrispro | ok, the dinner is ready | 19:14 |
| quadrispro | see you later | 19:14 |
| falktx | quadrispro: sure | 19:14 |
| scott-work | ailo: cool about the python, i tried reading about it but since i never used it i really didn't learn and retain anything | 19:15 |
| holstein | scott-work: is it a matter of switching packages? | 19:16 |
| holstein | paultag: would you know about this? | 19:16 |
| holstein | falktx has done it | 19:16 |
| ailo | scott-work: I'll try have something ready by the end of the week. | 19:17 |
| scott-work | holstein: but remember, falktx did it on his computer, not in ubuntu's automatied buildd system | 19:17 |
| holstein | yeah, but we know its possible | 19:17 |
| scott-work | ailo: cool, does this include any GUI stuff as well? | 19:17 |
| holstein | it'll be DVD sized | 19:17 |
| holstein | but thats not a problem | 19:17 |
| ailo | scott-work: I'm thinking of making the same sort of -controls as before. | 19:18 |
| * falktx loves when people talk about me | 19:18 | |
| scott-work | holstein: right, it certainly is possible, but i think using falktx as a barometer of what is possible is probably not a good choice, he doesn't have to work within the ubuntu framework | 19:18 |
| holstein | true | 19:18 |
| scott-work | ailo: absolutely, i think that would be the easist | 19:18 |
| holstein | i joined #ubuntu-installer | 19:18 |
| holstein | i'll start there | 19:19 |
| holstein | and see what i find | 19:19 |
| holstein | scott-work: and keep you informed :) | 19:19 |
| scott-work | holstein: you might also talk to someone in #xubuntu and see if you can find the guy who adjusts xubuntu for the live cd, since xubuntu and ubuntustudio are both derivatives | 19:19 |
| falktx | quadrispro: nedko says to use a git commit of laditools - http://repo.or.cz/w/laditools.git | 19:19 |
| scott-work | holstein: cool :) | 19:19 |
| scott-work | blender gets a new UI: http://lxnews.org/2011/01/24/blender-gets-a-ui-refresh/ | 19:20 |
| scott-work | that's awesome | 19:20 |
| scott-work | oh, and if anyone is interested in authoring DVD's, i found a new application in the repositories: dvd-styler | 19:20 |
| scott-work | it's a cross platform program what works better than everything in the repositories in my opinion: http://www.dvdstyler.de/ | 19:21 |
| scott-work | the only one that came close was bombono, but dvd-styler handled menus much, much better | 19:21 |
| falktx | scott-work: qdvdauthor is the best tool for me | 19:22 |
| scott-work | falktx: qdvdauthor is no longer in the repos for natty :( | 19:22 |
| falktx | scott-work: qt3 ? | 19:23 |
| scott-work | i had included it in the seeds for natty and when they removed qdvdauthor we started getting emails about packages with uninstallable libraries | 19:23 |
| falktx | no way! | 19:23 |
| scott-work | falktx: the only thing i saw was in the change log and it said that qdvdauthor was "obsolete" | 19:23 |
| falktx | ...no comment | 19:24 |
| falktx | this people is crazy | 19:24 |
| scott-work | falktx: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qdvdauthor/+changelog | 19:24 |
| scott-work | deleted in natty: reason (obsolete) | 19:24 |
| falktx | can i contest? | 19:25 |
| scott-work | i'm really excited about the new blender UI :) | 19:25 |
| scott-work | falktx: i have no idea to be honest | 19:25 |
| falktx | from webpage "Last updated Jan 10'th 2010 " | 19:26 |
| falktx | it's not obsolete! | 19:26 |
| scott-work | i hope to have the diff for the plymouth theme uploaded tonight or tomorrow night :) | 19:27 |
| falktx | they are even starting to make a FLOSS manual for it! | 19:27 |
| scott-work | falktx: you might also check out dvd-styler http://www.dvdstyler.de/ or bombono http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ as well | 19:29 |
| falktx | scott-work: it was my tool for my school project 4 months ago! | 19:30 |
| falktx | scott-work: i made some videos/transition in kdenlive, then the stuff in qdvdauthor, it was a great dvd | 19:30 |
| falktx | scott-work: I'll open a bug just to request qdvdauthor again... :) | 19:32 |
| scott-work | falktx: i tried openshot to edit and make a dvd, the editing went well but the authoring didn't work so well | 19:32 |
| scott-work | but then again, it was making a .dvd file while i'm not really sure what it is (i assumed it was to be burned to dvd) | 19:32 |
| scott-work | falktx: lol | 19:32 |
| scott-work | re: request qdvdauthor again | 19:33 |
| scott-work | i like blender for editing mainly, because it really is powerful and it can read just about EVERY video format extant | 19:33 |
| scott-work | but i'll be using dvd-styler for authoring from now on | 19:33 |
| falktx | scott-work: blender2.5 now support jack audio too! | 19:34 |
| falktx | scott-work: i have it in the new team PPAs | 19:34 |
| falktx | just try it! | 19:34 |
| scott-work | falktx: yeah, i saw that, that's really cool | 19:34 |
| scott-work | but i admit that i don't really know what i would stream into blender from jack | 19:35 |
| * falktx leaves quietly | 19:43 | |
| scott-work | wonder why falktx leaft quitely? | 22:19 |
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