[15:27] xubuntu-docs in lucid-proposed ready for testing :) [15:54] Good morning [15:54] hi charlie-tca [15:55] Still got the themes issue in Natty. It will not stay in the selected theme. [15:58] if it shows the ugly dark grey thingy with rectangles everywhere, it's not a theme, it's gtk's default uglyness [15:59] :) [15:59] (meaning, xfsettingsd might have crashed, or you're missing a gtk theme engine) [15:59] Even the live cd? [16:00] this is the light grey theme, both gtk and xfwm [16:00] It also affects the mouse cursor [16:01] could you make a screenshot? [16:01] it is xfsettingsd [16:01] if nothing is themed, xfsettingsd has probably crashed yeah [16:01] I just ran it in terminal, and the greybird theme came up. Mouse cursor changed, too [16:02] that means it is crashing as soon as the desktop starts [16:02] on installs and the live desktop [16:03] charlie-tca: xubuntu-docs in lucid-proposed ready for testing :) [16:04] will get that today, micahg [16:04] thanks [16:38] I tried the daily live in vbox, and the theme is there [16:38] no crash [16:39] hm, I will try today's image then. Yesterday it failed [16:43] It's been failing for several days, screenshot from a few days ago [16:43] mr_pouit : screenshot at http://imagebin.org/133250 [16:45] :q [16:46] I will run the images later today. I have to try the lucid docs, too [17:27] ochosi: I think we have to keep thunderbird for email. Claws-mail just is not as easy to use [17:29] and for those who really need to save that little bit of memory, send them to Lubuntu [17:34] charlie-tca: you're referring to the latest comment on the ml? [17:34] yes. I think we are going to stay with thunderbird [17:35] right, i don't mind so much [17:35] gmusic?? and browser is up in the air. I don't really care either way [17:35] mmh [17:35] But I am pretty determined on thunderbird. Claws-mail just is not as easy for users [17:35] well, the main advantage of gmusicbrowser is the responsive/friendly upstream and that i'm working on it i guess [17:36] Is it in the repositories already? [17:36] browser, well, i would trust others with the choice, integration is definitely not a problem [17:36] charlie-tca: check out the shimmer ppa for the latest version [17:36] okay [17:36] it's natty-ready ;) [17:36] browser we are letting the discussion run until we see which way it leans [17:36] ppa:shimmerproject/ppa [17:37] I just didn't want you to get too much hope up for claws-mail [17:37] * charlie-tca uses claws-mail, too [17:37] i don't mind so much, i personally use/love it, but i can see why people wouldn't [17:37] I don't really like thunderbird enough to use it [17:37] :) [17:37] but in configuring it, it wins [17:38] probably, i've never tried version3 [17:38] heh, I wish I could say that [17:38] btw, one more thing i like about gmusicbrowser: it can use gstreamer as backend, meaning it'll share the same backend with parole meaning less extra dependencies [17:38] setting it up with 10 email addresses and a ton of mailing lists took a couple of days [17:39] hehe [17:39] okeydokey, gotta run now [17:39] looking forward to some gmusicbrowser feedback [17:39] c u [17:41] thanks [19:15] micahg: found an issue when verifying bug 650806 [19:15] Launchpad bug 650806 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Incorrect file stated to disable IPv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650806 [19:15] all references to www.xubuntu.org fail on the page [19:16] charlie-tca: why did you mark verification-done then? [19:16] they are entered as "file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/www.xubuntu.org" which will not work. It needs to be "http:www.xubuntu.org" [19:16] cause the original bug is fixed [19:17] Do I add that to the bug or open a new one? [19:17] charlie-tca: oh, this is a new bug?, please file a new bug, tag regression -proposed and have bookemdano get me a fixed branch as soon as possible [19:17] oops, no space in the tag [19:17] Okay, I can do that [19:18] charlie-tca: is this a regression, or a new bug introduced? [19:18] AFAIK, new bug introduced [19:18] charlie-tca: ok, let me ask pitti then [19:18] but I can not say for sure [19:18] hmm... [19:20] * charlie-tca doesn't read the docs each release, and doesn't really know if it was there before or not [19:24] charlie-tca: you could downgrade to the release version and see if it's there :) [19:24] Let me go look [19:25] I have 4 bugs I am verifying, will look in another install [19:27] micahg: new bug. The section has been almost completely re-written [19:27] ok, I think that's a pretty big bug though, right? [19:28] well, Since that is what is being used to test a network connection that failed, ... [19:28] wait a minut [19:29] minor issue. It is a misprint to have it as a link [19:30] It is simply supposed to be a reference to use for ping tests. as in "www.xubuntu.org" instead of a link [19:30] ah, ok [19:30] used as "to ping www.xubuntu.org" [19:31] doesn't really count for anything [19:31] charlie-tca: so we shouldn't fix? [19:31] well, if we have time, sure, let's fix it. But it is really an annoyance [19:33] I don't want to not get these docs in for that, though. They are really nice [19:34] charlie-tca: ok, file the bug and I"ll get pitti to look at it [19:34] Okay. [19:34] charlie-tca: thanks [19:34] thank you [19:35] It helps to have someone working with us [19:39] charlie-tca: glad to help :) [19:40] docs verified for lucid [19:40] cool [20:28] micahg: I guess I should let you know, we are keeping Thunderbird. [20:29] micahg: I gave up answering all those who insist we have to get rid of xulrunner [20:46] charlie-tca: thanks, I thought I was clear on the xulrunner issue :) [20:46] hey folks [20:46] you were, I think. [20:46] how are things? [20:46] Hello, cody-somerville [20:46] hi cody-somerville [20:46] been keeping busy [20:47] We are going to have updated 10.04 docs in .2 [20:47] its been a crazy month so far for me. I see a lot of stuff go through my mailbox but haven't had a chance to read yet. [20:47] charlie-tca, sweet :) [20:47] Oh, I don't know if they will be translated, though [20:49] cody-somerville: seems like you are still spread a bit thin... You could really use a double [20:52] charlie-tca, lol. so I'm told. [21:02] cody-somerville: we announced the greybird theme for Natty this week [21:02] is that an entirely new theme or just a big improvement on top of the new one introduced last release? [21:03] grey instead of black/blue of the last release [21:03] same icon set [21:03] and panel arrangement changed [21:04] xfce 4.8 gives us more ability to play with panels [21:05] The theme itself is a change in the bluebird of 10.10 [21:07] Cool, ok.