[03:03] DarkwingDuck made some commits to the docs today, cleaned up references to openoffice and made them reference libreoffice [03:12] kubuntu is shipping libreoffice now? [03:14] at least on my natty vm it is [03:14] i think ubuntu switched [03:29] ^yup [04:08] debfx: Are you up for working with POX and DPMT to get python-qt4 updated in Debian too or are you just doing it for Kubuntu? [04:44] kk [04:44] * DarkwingDuck will have to remember that. [04:44] RE libreoffice vice OpenOffice === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [04:52] Openoffice is a vice? [04:57] vice being in teh place fo the word instead [04:58] DarkwingDuck: or versus [04:59] maco: :D === superfly__ is now known as superfly === sresu is now known as sre-su [07:51] freinhard: no, QtHelp is not missing (on maverick) [07:52] ScottK: I haven't started yet but it makes sense to update it in debian [07:52] ScottK: are they on irc? #debian-python? [08:20] morning [08:21] Morning [08:22] 4 freaking hours to update [08:28] lo [08:28] so [08:29] 3 exams today [08:29] I did not learn for any thanks to java [08:30] apachelogger: you are brave or mad, three exams at one day??? [08:30] yah, tomorrow another 3 [08:31] I am just glad they are not all on one day :S [08:31] o.O [08:31] I have one today, one thursday, but I won't pass today:S [08:32] also I just noticed that I have one scheduled on monday after schedule [08:32] supposedly I am travelling there [08:33] ulysses: I take it you also did java projects even though you should have been learning? :) [08:34] last week of exams, I won't:( [08:36] * apachelogger still got statistical stuff next week and algorithm magic some other time ... [08:36] always look on the bright side of life [08:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ [09:08] debfx: i'm using 4.8.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 and i can't import it [09:09] QtHelp isn't in python-qt4 in natty [09:09] so it'll be missing from the PPA backport in maverick too [09:12] good luck apachelogger [09:12] * Riddell glad to see there is no alpha 2 this week [09:30] "Serdar Dalgic has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel" the competition is listening :) [09:33] heh [10:16] apachelogger: nudge nudge :) [10:20] * Trouble` smells 4.6.0 for Maverick in the works :-p [10:33] markey: you are a boxplot in my heart [10:35] a what? [10:36] apachelogger: shouldn't you be in an exam just now? [10:36] no [10:36] first starts at 14:20 [10:36] good good, just checking [10:36] next at 16:40, last at 18:00 [10:36] * Trouble` wishes he had a dad like Riddell :-p [10:36] ^^ [10:37] apachelogger: Shouldn't you be revising ;-) [10:37] markey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_plot [10:37] markey: see, those boxes have silly whiskers [10:37] come to think of i those boxes are really cat heads [10:37] obviously [10:37] Trouble`: I am [10:37] hence the talk about cats [10:38] apachelogger: Glad I'm not doing that exam - looks complicated :-p [10:38] oh, nah, believe it or not, that is the simple things... [10:39] apachelogger: I must be thick then :-p [10:48] * apachelogger is all sorts of nervous and stuff [10:50] apachelogger: Good luck dude! You seem very clever guy though, so I'm sure you'll be fine! :) [10:55] thank you [11:32] They put an error in their error! [11:32] http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/25/plasmoidviewerIA5859.jpg [11:33] Is this a known bug? ^ (the brokeness of the dialog, not the error it is supposed to present) [11:33] JontheEchidna: ^^ [11:34] ftr, this is from a fresh natty install, I just kept my home partition [11:39] Riddell: ping [11:39] hi Quintasan|Droid [11:40] Riddell: Can you sync aqemu from Debian? [11:40] I can but I need a bug else the script doesn't like it [11:40] hm infact I need to set up the script on my new laptop too [11:41] Hmm, okay, I also should pester POX to finally update sip [11:46] Riddell: ohh... new laptop! with all keys and no duct-tape? [11:48] agateau_: yes but it has no stickers, feels naked! [11:52] Is there new kubuntu artwork -styled stickers yet= [11:53] I just ordered some for FOSDEM [11:53] but not generally no [11:54] Okay [11:54] I just have lots of those old stickers [11:54] Nobody wants them [11:56] debfx: Yes. #debian-python [11:56] (on OFTC) [11:57] Riddell: bug #707366 [11:57] Launchpad bug 707366 in Ubuntu "Please sync aqemu-0.8.1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707366 [11:58] I dont think there is any Ubuntu delta in natty [11:59] * Quintasan|Droid needs to forward ports on his router when he gets home [12:05] agateau_: rereping [12:05] xd [12:05] Okay I'm going home, see you in a few hours [12:13] faithless - take the long way home [12:22] everything that uses qtwebkit is crashing here [12:23] kdevelop (because the man plugin) and rekonq at least [12:24] * afiestas updates before saying any other word [12:36] afiestas: in maverick? [12:57] Probably Natty [12:58] (since it's afiestas) [12:59] after update everything seems to work [13:00] phew [13:01] shadeslayer: Digikam 1.8.0 is uploaded to Debian so you might have a look at that (new kipi-plugins too) === agateau_ is now known as agateau [13:15] afiestas: repong [13:34] yayy [13:34] ScottK: will do [13:35] i looked at debian yesterday, there wasnt anything there, so just packaged it [13:35] It wasn't there yesterday. [13:35] Thanks. [13:36] Quintasan_: do you have holidays right now? [13:45] Quintasan_: you forgot to subscribe ubuntu-archive [13:56] Riddell: they announced GSoC 2011 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:06] ari-tczew: I have holidays from 14th of February I think. [14:12] Riddell: nepomuk still crashes for you? [14:15] Quintasan: dunno, I think it's a different error message I got now [14:15] the error message was too large for the notification thing so I couldn't read it anyway [14:16] Riddell: You get other message? Wow that's some sure progress [14:17] I think upstream just turned off the bit that crashed [14:17] I still get this http://i.imgur.com/G9Q28.png [14:18] boom [14:18] Riddell: treug posted some sort of a fix on bug tracker [14:18] I'll try and report back later [14:19] filewatch/kinotify.cpp is in base-runtime? [14:19] /home/jr/src/4.6.0/kdebase-runtime/kdebase-runtime-4.6.0/nepomuk/services/filewatch/kinotify.cpp [14:19] awesome === Earthwings_ is now known as Earthwings [14:48] GOD DAMN [14:48] Riddell: still crashes [14:48] Quintasan: nepomuk issue? [14:49] shadeslayer: yeah :/ [14:49] try with a new user? might be an upgrade issue? [14:49] hmm [14:49] ok ... i can ask vHanda if you like [14:49] Stop [14:50] Let me try with new user [14:50] sure [14:50] just poke me and ill ask him to join here [14:54] oh snap [14:54] IT works on a new user [14:54] Quintasan: me too (holidays) [14:57] no idea [14:57] crashes here but not on the new user [15:18] Riddell: lol, apparently we have (or only I now) too many directories in our /home :DDD [15:19] says who? [15:21] vHanda [15:22] Riddell: [15:22] It [the crash] depends on the number of directories in your home folder [15:22] erk [15:23] I wonder why on hell it imposes a limit anyways [15:25] Crashing isn't the most polite way to say "too many directories" either. [15:25] ScottK: were new kipi plugins uploaded in debian? i dont see them here http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kipi-plugins.html [15:25] * shadeslayer looks at svn [15:26] ScottK: trueg says we could increase the inotify stuff [15:26] but it is already at 524288 [15:26] tsk, X people broke natty [15:26] which is way bigger than a mere 113663 [15:27] herp derp [15:27] chromium is broken [15:27] shadeslayer: chromium was broken to begin with [15:27] [15:27] shadeslayer: oie, coming to blr? [15:27] Quintasan: lemme rephrase that .... chromium is broken on LP private ppas [15:27] nigelb: tomorrow? [15:28] shadeslayer: no, march. [15:28] nigelb: yep [15:28] \o/ [15:28] :) [15:28] nigelb: im giving a talk on something [15:29] shadeslayer: oh, right. I saw that. [15:29] ;) [15:29] hrmph. screenlocking doesnt work on this mav machine [15:30] nope [15:30] ScottK: no kipi plugins 1.8 in debian [15:32] nigelb: seen http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/network_intrusion/ [15:33] shadeslayer: nope, looking [15:33] shadeslayer: That one was just released today, not in Debian yet. Sorry for the confusion. [15:33] sure np [15:33] ill package them anyhow [15:33] anyone else experiencing menu pop-ups not rendering most of the time in natty with desktop effects enabled? [15:34] cmagina: intel? [15:35] I had that and it's fixed with mesa from xorg-edgers which roaf says will be uploaded at some point [15:35] Riddell: yeah [15:35] also fixes kdm crashing on logout [15:35] haven't seen the kdm crash [15:35] you probably don't log out :) [15:36] just created a bug report on akonadiserver crashing all the time for a new user when trying to start kontact [15:36] haha, i actually just did a few minutes ago after taking those x updates hoping they might fix the menu issue [15:43] apachelogger: should I backport phonon to maverick along with 4.6.0? [16:02] Riddell: the X problem you were mentioning ... was that in terms of packages? [16:02] like ... some packages are not yet built etc [16:05] libdrm-nouveau1a: Conflicts: libdrm-nouveau1 but 2.4.22-2ubuntu1 is installed. [16:05] sigh [16:06] shadeslayer: that's the one [16:12] Riddell: want me to upload digikam without newer kipi plugins? [16:12] [ into Ninja PPA ] [16:13] shadeslayer: for maverick ready to move to backports? [16:14] Riddell: for maverick it needs kdegraphics 4.6 [16:14] so will go into backports PPA [16:14] shadeslayer: got natty packages too? [16:14] natty packages are ready :D [16:14] groovy, go for it [16:14] alright [16:14] natty to main archive, maverick to ninjas ready to copy to backports [16:14] shadeslayer: why without kipi plugins? [16:15] Riddell: because drm is broken [16:16] annoying that [16:22] does this fail for others on natty? [16:22] digikam for natty in ninja ppa [16:22] /usr/bin/pactl load-module module-device-manager "do_routing=1" [16:23] Riddell: gives me "17" [16:24] hmm, pulse not happy here [16:31] we need to do KDevelop too [16:31] * Riddell looks around for space ninjas [16:31] spare ninjas [16:31] although space ninjas would be cool too [16:32] space ninjas would be awesome [16:32] i can try kdevelop [16:52] Riddell: digikam for maverick uploaded [16:53] lovely [17:10] Riddell: you got your visa? [17:13] Riddell: libdrm .... sort of fixed [17:17] shadeslayer: not yet [17:18] Riddell: for which one? libdrm or visa? :P [17:18] visa [17:18] ah [17:19] Riddell: the l10n stuff in kdevplatform will be taken out in the archive right? [17:19] * shadeslayer doesnt see l10n install files [17:19] shadeslayer: yes [17:19] alrighty ... just confirming [17:20] kdevplatform done then [17:31] ok Kdevplatform for natty uploaded [17:31] yofel_: around? === makl is now known as ximion [17:38] shadeslayer: hmm, rekonq doesn't seem to remember my logins between sessions [17:38] Riddell: logins as in ... passwords to sites? [17:38] or cookies? [17:38] cookies [17:38] ah [17:39] although it seems to have worked now I try to investigate it [17:39] Riddell: iirc its a issue with kdewebkit and solved in final 4.6 release [17:39] kdewebkit+kio bug ... [17:39] alot of stuff in kdewebkit was broken in 4.5.95 release :( [17:44] kdevplatform for maverick uploaded to ninjas [17:50] ** testers needed for 4.6 in maverick and natty [17:51] Riddell: i can test in a chroot [17:51] presumably you already have bits of it if you're compiling kdevelop? [17:52] Riddell: Just gotta finish some docs then I'm up for testing Maverick packages [17:52] Riddell: nope .... yofel gave me access to his server .. so there are bits of it lying there [17:52] he has a 25MBit Down/5MBit Up connection o_o [17:53] hmm [17:54] i could run X over ssh as well i think [17:54] Riddell: on maverick kubuntu-desktop : Depends: phonon-backend-xine but it is not going to be installed [ probably because i just sent it for a rebuild ] [17:55] shadeslayer: you can but if roundtrips are long it's uber slow, still I find it useful for some testing from ec2 [17:55] yes phonon bits are still building [17:55] hmm [17:55] Riddell: natty installs fine [17:55] a good start [17:56] i could try and just do : startkde [17:56] yes, it'll work, and you'll even have time to make a cup of tea while it starts [17:56] including a full tea ceremony [17:57] lol :P [17:57] root@yofel-thinkpad:/# service kdm start [17:57] kdm stop/waiting [17:57] heh [17:57] best when using xephyr === makl is now known as ximion [18:01] Riddell: X cant detect a device [18:02] inside the chroot [18:03] oh inside a chroot is fiddly, I don't know how to do that [18:03] from what im reading ... it isnt possible [18:03] usually works on a local machine if you mount dev and whatnot, over ssh I don't konw [18:04] yeah [18:04] from the error logs it cant seem to be able to find the display device [18:04] which obviously resides in /dev [18:04] so .. KDE 4.6 for maverick installs fine as well === makl is now known as ximion === ximion is now known as makl === ximion2 is now known as ximion [18:19] * Trouble updates to 4.6.0 [18:26] * Trouble is rebooting [18:33] Riddell: 4.6 Maverick working for me sir! o/ [18:39] Trouble: great [18:39] Riddell: how about kicking ktorrent off the cd [18:39] Trouble: please add to bottom of wiki page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [18:39] or should we maitain feature parity with ubuntu wrt this [18:39] Riddell: Did that ages ago :-p [18:40] (like I always do :-p :-p) :D [18:41] shadeslayer: it's certainly a candidate if we have no space [18:41] hmm [18:42] i was actually thinking of replacing ktorrent with kipi plugins [18:42] huh [18:42] size of kipi-plugins = 2xsize of ktorrent [19:16] shadeslayer, Riddell: can [19:16] DERP [19:16] ???? [19:16] Can't we just add an popup after the installation of Kubuntu asking users to download additional package to enchance their experience with Kubuntu explaining we couldn't fit them on cd due to size limits? [19:17] damn you bzr [19:17] I know it's a somehow dirty but we can't magically increase the size of CD's worldwide [19:18] wekk [19:18] *well [19:18] there is the question of lzma compression on the CD [19:18] also ... how about spinning 1GB images for USB's? [19:18] shadeslayer: U got Neon talks on c.k.i? [19:18] Quintasan: yus === cmagina is now known as cmagina-shovelin [19:25] shadeslayer: extra QA and extra disk space we don't have I'm afraid === hunger_ is now known as hunger [19:26] Riddell: what's the status of LZMA compression on the CD? [19:26] Not Working (TM)? [19:26] Riddell: kdevelop done ... dont want to do php :( [19:27] Quintasan: ^^ get to work [19:27] shadeslayer: school comes first unfortunately [19:27] so [19:27] still have physics homework to do, feel free to do it for me if u want :P [19:27] school >> Quintasan? [19:27] Quintasan: ooohhh .... physics [19:27] i like physics [19:27] Quintasan > school, but school spams with homework [19:28] Quintasan: you need better spam filters [19:28] you fail like gmail [19:28] shadeslayer: I already discard every other homework that's different from math's, phys and polish [19:29] And I have to focus on two subjects that I won't have next year so I get B's from them at the end of the year [19:29] in 1 minute, its going to be our Republic Day [19:29] since those grades go to my final paper I get [19:29] yayy for national holidays [19:30] Yay for two weeks of free time from 14th of February [19:30] ok thats better :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:32] o/ [19:32] oh hai [19:33] yofel: i can haz sudo rm -rf for my ~/ ? [19:33] or just remove ~/tmp :P [19:33] why you need sudo o.O? [19:34] yofel: i accidently ran sudo -E pdebuild [19:34] lol derp [19:34] so some the files cant be removed without sudo :P [19:34] oh hahah [19:34] yeah [19:34] * shadeslayer didnt realize it when he ran it [19:34] doesn't clean work? [19:34] yofel: http://memegenerator.net/Y-U-NO/ImageMacro/5418145/Y-U-NO-SUDO-YOFEL [19:34] nope [19:35] huh [19:35] so nuke ~/tmp? [19:35] yep [19:35] gone [19:35] yayy [19:37] SIGH [19:37] i entered my GPG AND ssh keys wrong 6 times [19:37] problem, ciphering? [19:38] no [19:38] oh well, I will never do this damn homework [19:38] I'm off [19:38] PEBKAC === cmagina-shovelin is now known as cmagina [20:04] Riddell: backportin would be awesome [20:04] markey demands it even [20:05] * shadeslayer slays yet another binding [20:07] hehe [20:10] murd0rer [20:10] apachelogger: it feels good to murder a binding [20:10] * shadeslayer found it liberating [20:10] ok now to play KF and shoot more people [20:11] kbai [20:11] yofel: btw kdevelop php is up for grabs [20:14] can do that, so devplatform and kdevelop is done? [20:14] yep [20:14] along with digikam and kipi-plugins [20:15] * shadeslayer went on packaging spree today :P [20:26] kdebindings 4.6 is going to need a respin [20:27] Nightrose: your facebook profile lacks fluffyness! [20:27] i no [20:27] :( [20:28] I will leave an angry wall post behind, I hope you are aware of that... [20:29] shadeslayer: yeah, as soon as someone syncs sip [20:29] yofel: no ... some fixes in Qyoto being backported [20:30] wait .. SIP needs a sync? [20:30] shouldnt a bug be filed against that then? [20:30] ah, well, we didn't do the first 4.6 either [20:30] Quintasan: ? [20:30] Nightrose: oh well, I shall visit again tomorrow... [20:30] lol ... didnt know :P [20:30] * apachelogger does not have angry stuff to write [20:30] my legs hurt! [20:30] also I am way tired [20:31] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger [20:31] Nightrose: but tomorrow it better be good.... :P [20:33] -.- [20:56] Nightrose: honey [20:56] apachelogger: honey? [20:57] Nightrose: today at university we were wondering if there are lactose intolerant unicorns [20:57] I mean [20:57] i'm sure there are [20:57] wouldnt there need to be way more rainbows if that were the case? [20:58] hm, possibly they just do not consume anything with lactose [20:58] Nightrose: thanks for sorting this out :) [20:58] :D [22:27] * apachelogger starts singing very loud to wake up shadeslayer === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina [23:02] apachelogger: I prefer to bang pots to wake up someone :P [23:05] just get shadeslayer to connect his HIFI to the internets, hack it and blow him through the wall [23:05] well [23:05] he runs PA [23:05] ... [23:05] oh [23:05] getting my PA to make love to his PA is only one malicious package upload away [23:05] hehe