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pooliebdrung, are you a u-d-tools maintainer?00:02
poolieare you asking me to do it, or asking me if i think it's sane?00:02
bdrungpoolie: yes (look at the changelog)00:03
bdrungpoolie: i am asking you to pull the script into lptools00:03
poolieis there a mp for it?00:04
bdrungno00:04
bdrungpoolie: would that speed the thing up?00:09
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pooliebdrung, ah, not especially00:40
pooliewell, it depends00:40
poolieif it's just "copy this one file" i can do it00:40
poolieif other rearrangements are needed and you did them that would make things faster00:40
bdrungpoolie: it should be just "copy this one file"00:40
bdrungpoolie: (adjust setup.py, add to copyright and description, check dependencies)00:41
poolieok, i'll try to do that00:42
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magciusDoes Launchpad have an IRC bugbot system?02:52
lifelesswhat do you mean ?02:53
magciusIs there an official or set of third-party IRC bugbots?02:55
lifelesswe don't have a official set of irc integration things; there are a few around02:56
lifelessthere's mup02:56
lifelessand ubot502:56
lifelessbug 3402:57
ubot5Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: 34 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/34)02:57
lifelessbug 23402:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 234 in Baz (deprecated) "baz does not repects TMPDIR variable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23402:57
lifelessbetter :P02:57
lifelessI think someone wrote a twisted one as well02:57
magciuslifeless, is there a CIA-like thing that gives updates on LP bugs?03:00
lifelessI don't know, whats a CIA think03:02
lifeless*thing*03:02
magciuslifeless, http://cia.vc03:03
magciusBut for bugs.03:03
lifelessI guess03:06
lifelessjust plug an rss consumer to an irc emitter?03:06
damasceneHi,05:19
damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897905:20
pooliedamascene, hi06:22
pooliedamascene, i'm not clear what you want to have done06:22
pooliereassignment of the teams, or for someone to tell you who the translators are06:23
damascenepoolie: there is no official launchpad translation team for Arabic06:33
damascenewe want to make ~lp-l10n-ar the official one06:34
damascenehttps://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/launchpad-translators06:38
damasceneI've replayed to your question in launchpad06:38
damascenehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTranslationTeam/Rules could we set the direction to RTL?07:00
damasceneanother question. if some one joined a team will he be added to the team mail list too?07:15
persiadamascene, It's optional, selected on a per-user basis, in their personal preferences.07:57
damasceneI understand that I can add my team members my self to the team mailing list?07:58
damasceneright?07:58
damascene*can not07:59
persiaRight.  It's a preference, by user, which only they can set.08:03
damascenecould we set the direction to RTL? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTranslationTeam/Rules08:18
damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897908:22
geserwgrant: can the armel builds with the intermixed logs be given-back or do you still need them for inspection?10:09
wgrantgeser: You can give them back.10:10
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cjwatsonis Launchpad supposed to expire bugs which were marked Incomplete, then had replies from the original reporter, but nobody got round to removing the Incomplete status?11:07
cjwatsonthis seems distinctly suboptimal - it's not the reporter's fault we were slack about keeping the status up to date11:07
cjwatsonbug 681280 is an example of this11:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 681280 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 fails with error: symbol not found: 'grub_err_printed_errors'." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68128011:07
cjwatson(I've since marked it Invalid, but nevertheless)11:08
damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897911:11
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honeypotI didn't find ppa repositories in sources.list but they still exist... how to remove them plz12:49
persiahoneypot, That question is better asked in #ubuntu ( check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ )12:51
honeypotpersia, thank you! I installed VLC 1.1.15 from PPA and apparently x264 is broken... do you have any idea abou the issue?12:53
persiaNo, but again, this isn't the right channel for that sort of question.12:53
honeypotpersia: does the question concern ubuntu too?12:54
persiaEither Ubuntu (in which case #ubuntu is the right place), or the PPA (in which case you need to find a channel for the PPA owner)12:55
honeypotI see! thank you so much persia!12:55
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runekshello all13:44
damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897913:47
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xrg_benji: some help for a private project, please, prv.14:18
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maxb(just fixing spacing and trimming)14:34
shadeslayerhi, im getting "No Such resource" links on Launchpad14:49
shadeslayerin private PPA's14:49
benjishadeslayer: can you give me an example?14:51
shadeslayerhttps://i62771573.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/62771573/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4:4.6.0a-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=1d214901ae6be78103e1ac01e87509d514:51
shadeslayerthat gives me "No Such Resource"14:51
shadeslayerive been logged in for a very long time14:51
shadeslayernope .. same thing with cache emptied14:53
benjishadeslayer: I'm not very familiar with PPAs, but the "FAILEDTOBUILD" in that URL makes me suspicious14:53
shadeslayerbenji: yes, the package failed to build, i want to look at the build logs, but i cant14:53
shadeslayeryeah ... build logs from normal PPA's open up fine14:55
benjishadeslayer: ok, let me see what I can figure out14:55
shadeslayersure :)14:55
shadeslayerbenji: my user id is : ~rohangarg14:56
shadeslayerif that helps14:56
benjithanks14:57
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exarkunSo I want a mailing list for https://launchpad.net/divmod.org15:18
exarkunBut I want people to be able to subscribe to the list without having commit access15:18
exarkunWhat shall I do?15:18
benjishadeslayer: can you point me to the page that had the link that gave you "No Such Resource"?15:19
shadeslayerbenji: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa << click on the FTBFS on the left15:19
shadeslayererm15:19
shadeslayers/left/right15:19
jmlexarkun: make an open team that's separate from the devs, add the devs to that team.15:20
jmlexarkun: as in, add the dev team to that team15:20
exarkunokay.  where's the ui for creating teams?15:20
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exarkunah, there's a link on the front page.15:21
jmlexarkun: linked off the front page. https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam15:21
jmlyes.15:21
* jml wishes this was better15:21
benjishadeslayer: you're using Chromium?15:25
exarkunjml: thanks15:25
shadeslayerbenji: yes15:25
jmlexarkun: np15:25
benjishadeslayer: this is the result of a chromium bug; visit https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2221542/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4%3A4.6.0a-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz in Firefox to get a new token and you should be able to see the logs.15:26
shadeslayerah15:26
* shadeslayer tries with rekonq15:26
shadeslayerbenji: thanks :)15:28
ftadid you file a bug against chromium for that?15:51
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damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897916:10
ftadanilo, hi, yt?16:36
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OdyXHrm. Do I need to manually restart "Dependency wait" builds in my PPA (if I know it will get solved automagically in some hours) ?16:43
bigjoolsOdyX: no it will be automatically retried16:44
OdyXbigjools: nice; thanks.16:44
maxbAlthough topic of #launchpad-dev says: firefighting: builds are not retrying at the moment /16:51
maxb?16:51
hagnaso launchpad has bzr, svn and git support?16:53
maxbLaunchpad has native bzr support.16:56
maxbIt also has support for automatically import cvs svn git hg into bzr branches16:56
maxb*importing16:56
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OdyXmaxb: it'd be nice if it worked… I just uploaded 5 chained Build-Deps on natty-maverick-lucid, which makes 15 clicks at separate hours in the day. Sigh.17:12
OdyXhuh, s/15/30/ as we have two arches...17:13
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bigjoolsOdyX, maxb: there was a problem with the retry process yesterday but it was fixed in a few hours17:38
maxb#lp-dev topic is out of date?17:38
OdyXbigjools: nice. And yeah, as maxb tells :-)17:39
maxbah, not any more :-)17:39
OdyXand a last curiosity, what's the usual delay ?17:39
bigjoolsit checks every hour17:42
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micahgI've been seeing a lot of upstream importance changing to Unknown, is this a known issue18:37
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damascenePlease. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10897919:06
deryckmicahg, we know about it for Freedesktop.org.  Are there other trackers that this has happened for?19:28
deryckI'm guessing since you asked, it must be Mozilla Bugzilla, too. :-)19:29
bdmurrayderyck: is there a bug to follow or something for freedesktop.org?19:31
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deryckbdmurray, yes.  let me look and see what the number is....19:32
micahgderyck: might be just freedesktop.org (some mozilla stuff ended up being someone else's issue :))19:33
deryckah ok :-)19:34
deryckbdmurray, bug 70747819:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 707478 in Launchpad itself "Freedesktop bug watches are (incorrectly) updated with "importance unknown"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70747819:34
bdmurrayderyck: thanks!19:35
derycknp!19:36
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nagappanI would like to do a daily build in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/at-spi2-core based on http://git.gnome.org/browse/at-spi2-core any help is highly appreciated20:03
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rsalvetihey, I got a fail to upload while updating a package at ubuntu, can someone help me looking into that?20:55
rsalvetihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher-efl/0.3.2-0ubuntu6/+buildjob/219257820:55
rsalvetihm, seems to be ok now, let me check again20:56
rsalvetiyup, got one email saying that if failed but it's fine now20:57
rsalvetiso, forget about it :-)20:57
17SAATG2OHello. Are mailing lists not working or is it just me?21:34
lifelesswe're not away of any incident with them21:35
lifelesswhat are your symptoms21:35
17SAATG2Olifeless: since today (~12 hours ago) my mails don't even appear in the archives21:35
17SAATG2Oof https://lists.launchpad.net/olrait/21:35
lifeless17SAATG2O: possibly they are in the moderator queue? are you sending from your regular address?21:37
17SAATG2Ono, moderation queue empty. But I noticed in this moment that today, when I clicked "unsuscribe" and got instead an error message, it did unsubscribe me21:38
lifelessif you're not subscribed, your mails will go into moderation21:38
17SAATG2O(though I was trying precisely because it didn't work, for the moment I'll try to resubscribe and retry)21:38
17SAATG2Omoderation is empty21:38
lifelesssinzui: non subscribers mails - do they need moderation or get dropped?21:39
sinzuilifeless: yes, but the rules are clever than that21:40
lifelesssinzui: yes dropped or yes moderation ?21:40
sinzui17SAATG2O: lifeless all team members, and anyone ever approved to send to the list. messages from non-approved address are moderated. emails with addresses that are not registered to Lp users are discarded21:42
17SAATG2Owell, I tried from both my Launchpad registered addresses, and I'm a team member21:42
17SAATG2Ocould anyone of you try to send an email, so I should see it in moderation?21:43
sinzui17SAATG2O: Lp needs about 10 minutes to sync membership/subscription changes to mailman, but I think that time has passed21:43
17SAATG2Oyep, since months...21:44
sinzui17SAATG2O: what is your Lp id?, who are you in this list https://launchpad.net/~olrait/+mailing-list-subscribers21:45
17SAATG2O"Pietro Battiston"21:46
17SAATG2O(2nd in 2nd column)21:46
sinzuithanks21:46
17SAATG2O(by the way: I _created_ the group, in case that matters)21:46
sinzuiI have seen two cases where the list operates, but the emails do not arrive for the subscriber...21:47
sinzuiThe most common case, affecting a  number of users, is that their own mailer is not forwarding the emails to this list....21:47
17SAATG2Owell... I just sent a mail to another (mailman (non-lp) operated) ml, with no problem (in case that matters)21:48
sinzuiThe rarest case affect one person, me specifically, mailman rejects my signed emails. It hates something about my gpg sig and I personally blame barry (author of the mailman).21:48
sinzui17SAATG2O: send a test email to launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net. I am looking at the moderation queue right no21:50
sinzuiright now21:50
17SAATG2Odone21:50
17SAATG2Owait, it's sending21:50
17SAATG2Odone21:50
sinzuiI get it21:51
jhobbsis there a way to change my launchpad email address?21:51
17SAATG2Ojhobbs: https://launchpad.net/~toobaz/+editemails (replace "toobaz" with your user id)21:52
jhobbsgreat - thanks 17SAATG2O21:52
jhobbsSorry, you don't have permission to access this page.21:53
17SAATG2Oyw21:53
jhobbs:\21:53
sinzuijhobbs: yes. the link is the odd pencil icon next your email address. Be careful though. Launchpad uses Ubuntu's SSO to do authentication. If you delete an address that is used to login, oddness will happen21:53
sinzuijhobbs: login first21:53
sinzuijhobbs: note that login.launchpad.net is really login.ubuntu.com so that keep a separate list of email addresses.21:54
17SAATG2Osinzui: by the way, today the mailing list got _no_ emails... I wonder if it's a coincidence or it just stopped working21:55
jhobbsok.. i can add a new one, but the old one doesn't have a "remove" option and remains preferred21:55
sinzui17SAATG2O: 1. I think you email is fine, I think your address is fine. You *might* have emails in ~olrait moderation queue but 2. I agree your emails should just arrive in th archive21:56
jhobbsah i got it21:56
jhobbsdifferent page to change preferred =)21:56
sinzui17SAATG2O: since mailman was happy to forward the email to the lp-users moderate queue, I think it is fine. Lets prove me wrong. send one more to launchpad-users and I will approve to go to the list. I will check if it arrives in my inbox and the archive.21:57
17SAATG2Odone21:59
sinzuiwe are now in the 10 minute waiting period22:00
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17SAATG2O?22:13
Methsbenji: Is that tomorrow lunchtime?22:15
sinzui17SAATG2O: No email to me or the archive. I have sent a second email to another list and have not seen it. I will find an admin to see if mailman needs to be restarted to purge its queues22:17
17SAATG2Osinzui: thanks22:17
lifelesssinzui: does the heartbeat patch help with this?22:17
Methsnm22:19
sinzuihmm I see other lists are getting emails today22:19
sinzuioh sweet, natty's calendar saves state...I cannot tell what today is22:21
sinzuilifeless: I assume the heartbeat patch should be screaming if there is no xmlrpc issue. This issue is about a non-launchpad feature. mailman just forwards and archives without Lp being up22:23
sinzuiWe know xmlrpc is fine because Lp and mailman are exchanging information, and it is happening in seconds22:23
sinzuilifeless: 17SAATG2O my test email to ~haibunku arrived It took 20 minutes, and I do not see it in the archive yet22:26
WhoopieHi, I have still the issue with my PPA that packages hang here as built, but not published. Is this a known problem?22:27
bigjoolsWhoopie: if you give me the PPA URL and package name I can check22:27
Whoopiebigjools: https://launchpad.net/~whoopie79/+archive/testing/+packages22:28
Whoopiebigjools: it's the gnome-settings-daemon package. Thanks for your help.22:28
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bigjoolsWhoopie: something is broken, I'm not sure what.  Still looking.22:33
Whoopiebigjools: it just happens with my testing PPA. My main PPA is working properly.22:33
sinzui17SAATG2O: your email arrived to the list. I am uncertain if the mailman restart made it arrive. Please send a test email your own list and launchpad-user again22:44
17SAATG2Odone22:45
17SAATG2Oyep, this time it arrived22:47
sinzui17SAATG2O: really? I see you lp-user email did not get moderated, but I have not gotten it22:49
17SAATG2Oon my mailing list it worked22:49
17SAATG2O(though it's still not in the archive)22:49
sinzuiI wonder if there is a backlog to the smtp. the archive happens after the smtp22:50
sinzui17SAATG2O: I will continue to look into this. I hope everything of okay for you, but I suspect mail delivery to the archive may be like rolling dice.22:51
sinzuiwell the archive is behind a proxy. The archive may be working fine22:52
17SAATG2Owell, for the moment I have a backlog of time awake... thanks a lot for help. If any input is needed from me, you know my email address22:52
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Whoopiebigjools: looks like it's a bigger issue as expected?23:14
bigjoolsyeah, nothing I can do in the short term :(23:15
bigjoolsI can't actually see anything wrong yet, it's just not getting published23:15
Whoopiebigjools: if it's easier for you, you can reset the whole PPA. Just tell me so that I can download the packages to my PC.23:29
bigjoolsWhoopie: don't do that, we need the evidence intact23:29
bigjoolsyou can download the packages direct from the UI if you need them23:29
Whoopiebigjools: ok, it was just an offer. I leave everything like it's now.23:30
bigjoolsI am going to pass the problem to someone else since it's near my EoD23:30
Whoopiesure23:30
bigjoolsWhoopie: understood, thanks23:30
bigjoolsbut I'm just filing a bug about it23:30
Whoopiecould you tell me the bug number then so that I can monitor it? Or is it internally?23:31
bigjoolshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/70771523:32
bigjoolswgrant: I assigned it to you, I figured you'd be around by now...23:33
Whoopiethanks23:33
wgrantbigjools: /win 823:42
wgrantArgh.23:42
wgrantbigjools: It is a public holiday here.23:42
bigjoolsah some funky Australia day23:43
wgrantYeah.23:43
wgrantHave you investigated at all?23:44
bigjoolsgot as far as seeing the pending publication23:44
bigjoolsand p-d ignoring it :/23:44
bigjoolsI was doing your QA so I didn't have any more time to look23:44
wgrantWhoopie: On https://launchpad.net/~whoopie79/+archive/testing/+edit, is the 'Publish' flag checked?23:45
Whoopiewgrant: oh, no!23:46
wgrantbigjools: Can I pleeeeeease remove that flag and let OEM set it through the API pretty please?23:46
bigjoolsgrar..........23:47
Whoopiewgrant: haven't changed it though.23:47
Whoopieenabled it now.23:47
bigjoolswgrant: we agreed to put it on the +admin page23:47
wgrantbigjools: Ah, OK. I knew that was suggested, but not agreed upon.23:48
bigjoolsWhoopie: but I don't believe that you never changed it :)23:48
bigjoolsit's probably the default focused widget and susceptible to the space bar :/23:48
Whoopiebigjools: not that I know of. But you might be right. Sorry for the inconvenience.23:50
Whoopiewgrant: ^ sorry23:50
bigjoolsWhoopie: no trouble at all, it's a usability issue we need to fix23:51
Whoopiewill the package be published after some time, or do I need to upload again?23:51
bigjoolsit will publish shortly23:51
Whoopiegreat23:52
bigjoolswgrant: the other option is a warning banner saying that publishing is disabled, containing a link to re-enable it23:52
wgrantbigjools: Possibly. But the use case for that is somewhat tiny.23:52
bigjoolswgrant: check with Cody23:52
bigjoolsanyway I have to go23:52
wgrantWill do.23:53
wgrantThanks.23:53
bigjoolsg'night23:53

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